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NancyII - > Things that interest ME -> Parade Magizine on Fred Thompson
Parade Magizine on Fred Thompson

The question was asked..."Why the delay in Fred Thompson’s announcement that he’s running for President?"

Response from Parade Mag.

"The orchestrated suspense enhanced Thompson's popularity with many GOP primary voters.  What's more, federal communications law requires broadcasters to give candidates equal time on public airwaves.  If and when reruns of his Law and Order shows have to be pulled, Thompson, 64, and his co-stars will lose their residuals."

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posted by NancyII on Sunday, July 29, 2007 at 08:48 PM
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posted by stickbugs on Jul 29, 2007 at 09:30 PM
I did hear (I think on talk radio) that the equal time law doesn't include re-runs on cable stations, like USA and TNT...only on the main networks, which would be NBC for Law and Order.  Did they mention anything the cable stations being exempt?
posted by NancyII on Jul 29, 2007 at 10:10 PM
That's all that was in the article.  It was the short ones on the inside of the front page.  (today it was on the second).
posted by NancyII on Jul 29, 2007 at 10:43 PM

Here's what I found.  Click on "listen" for an interesting report.

http://www.npr.org/template...

posted by TomW on Jul 29, 2007 at 10:50 PM
It probably has more to do with his spots on the radio.  Once he's a candidate, he can't be filling in for Paul Harvey.

http://abcnews.go.com/Enter...
posted by NancyII on Jul 29, 2007 at 10:52 PM

Did you listen to the report Tom?

(edited) sounds like ALL the cast will lose the residuals from those  shows while he's running for office.

posted by myxlnt1 on Jul 30, 2007 at 12:12 AM
Bull hocky, Once he gets all that exposure,he'll be a shoein.  Sure wish AL would announce.
posted by samheath on Jul 30, 2007 at 05:51 AM
Whatever the reasons for delay it is certainly going to make things interesting when he does announce.
posted by NancyII on Jul 30, 2007 at 06:33 AM

Politics isn't all about straight forward announcing...there's a lot of strategy involved in it too.  I read once that Clinton held off on his original announcement and a lot of people didn't know who this fella out of Arkansas was.  It served him well.

Who knows?  But one thing is sure...there will be some money lost when they pull those episodes.  The upside is that they weill resume after the election (one result or anothr) and people will start getting their money again. 

Did you folks listen?   Sam Waterson will be taking over as DA.  Now THERE's an important role.  Look where it took Fred.  LOL.

posted by randomfactor on Jul 30, 2007 at 07:06 AM

Thompson's wife is running the campaign, he's raising next-to-nothing (and may *STILL* be in trouble with the FEC) and once he *DOES* announce folks'll start thinking seriously about whether to elect yet another acting president, this one with cancer. 

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IIRC, the Parade column *ALSO* predicted that Lindsay Lohan was doing well, so look at their track record...

posted by NancyII on Jul 30, 2007 at 07:12 AM

RF..Last time you brought up the cancer thing I posted links about it.  It's not an issue but you can bet once he gets serious, the left will be all over it.  The left is pooh poohing right now because he hasn't declared..once he does it'll be "Katie bar the door."

BTW..so much for her being a "trophy" wife.  LOL.

posted by NancyII on Jul 30, 2007 at 07:39 AM

Coupla links on the cancer issue.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POL...  .......

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Prog...

 

posted by randomfactor on Jul 30, 2007 at 07:39 AM

His lymphoma is "indolent."  (One could draw comparisons with its host).  That means it's moving very slowly, not that it's in remission.  Of course, he could live 15 more years.  Or be hit by John McCain's bus tomorrow, if it hasn't run out of gas.

http://www.nhlcyberfamily.o...

posted by tkozy on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:33 AM
 

So to answer my own question, I think Jeri will hurt Fred's candidacy as long as she's showing up in photographs looking like a Hollywood starlet at the latest award show. As some commenter somewhere so inelegantly put it, Fred will never get the old crone vote that way. Neither will he get the vote of any woman who has ever been dumped for a younger model. It's not an insignificant demographic. Certainly not one Thompson can afford to ignore if he's serious about the winning the race.

http://cernigsnewshog.blogs...



posted by randomfactor on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:40 AM
So Tkozy, you think the Thompson Twins are a bust for Fred's campaign?
posted by NancyII on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:42 AM
Ah but Tk..you forget the people who will vote for him simply because he looks like presidentail material.  And the votes of the guys who wish they were married to a younger woman.
posted by tkozy on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:47 AM
 

Presidential Material? You mean old?



How bout, does Jeri look like First Lady material?


The stories I have read, put Jeri as the head republican party girl before she ran into Fred. Those kind of stories will swift boat Fred even if they are only half true.


Remember, Fred is running for the right wing, evangelical, paleo republican vote.

posted by tkozy on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:48 AM
Random, The twins are just fine.
posted by randomfactor on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:50 AM
"Looks Presidential" in the media may be substituted with "somewhat right-wing white male."
posted by NancyII on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:52 AM
Presidential appearing material in that he has that craggy, dependable look.  Wait till he declares..you guys can have a field day with him then.  He hasn't even tossed his hat in the ring and is already out front in popularity.  People are looking for a change..this might just be it.
posted by woofwoof on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:53 AM
RF, I'm slow on the uptake, I went off to see some pics of Fred's wife.....fake......and when I came back, now I get the twins joke....good one. 
posted by dusty1215 on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:56 AM
From an email I got from MSNBC this morning:

The 3-Million-Dollar Man? Per NBC's Joel Seidman, Fred Thompson's "testing the waters" committee must file with the IRS by tomorrow to reveal -- for the first time -- some of his fundraising efforts for "Friends of Fred Thompson, Inc.," the Nashville based "527" political organization he formed in early June. Though the filing will provide records for only one month of funds raised, plus a list of contributors, it will somewhat lift the veil of mystery of Thompson's fundraising abilities. Will the amount be able to stop the flow of bad news for Team Fred (which includes staff defections, questions about his abortion record, and attention to his wife's role in his campaign)? Maybe not. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reported last week that the tally will be around $3 million.

The site won't load so I can't provide a link to the story..sorry.
posted by randomfactor on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:00 AM

I freely admit I stole the "Thompson Twins" reference.  Too good not to pass on, especially now that Senator Clinton is apparently being criticized for gasp--possessing cleavage.

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Change?  Nancy, there is not a position held by Thompson as a Republican white male that does not translate to "more of the same."  Especially on Iraq, the number-one issue.  He even seems to work as hard as Shrub, from descriptions of his past behavior in office.

posted by TomW on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:05 AM
Well, if people are looking for change, it won't be through Fred.  On the plus side, we can start impeachment hearings the Wednesday after he takes office.  He's one of those guys who thought Nixon got a bad rap and Libby shouldn't have been investigated.  He's got little respect for the Constitution and that's showing before he's even announced.
posted by TomW on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:07 AM
RF, in fairness, Thompson may be a change.  He may not believe in lying to people before he breaks the law.
posted by mattloch on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:21 AM
Tom, don't forget that Thompson was a mole for Nixon during the Watergate investigations. He leaked secret info to the Nixon camp, and gave them the heads up that he was going to ask about the tapes on the night before he actually did it. The fact that he leaked secret info the Nixon may show his proclivities "in lying to people before he breaks the law".

If Thompson runs, you can remove any accusations of "lack of experience" of Democratic candidates. As a matter of fact, that may be turned around and used against Thompson.

I don't see having cancer as an issue. Remember, Reagan had it three times (and even shot once) and he kept coming back like some deranged, Alzheimer's-ridden Frankenstein's monster.
posted by dusty1215 on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:26 AM
Remember Mattloch...when he said..I do not recall..a million times during Iran Contra..he meant it..the beginning throes of Alzheimers it seems.
posted by drilnliftcrude on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:28 AM
Lorrie Morgan has nothing but good things to say about Fred and I believe he dumped her. It's funny how good Kucinich looks with his 31 years junior, tongue pierced trophy wife to some of the same posters here who now act critical of Thompsons wife.
posted by dusty1215 on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:29 AM
Oh..heres a link to Politico's piece on Freddy's anemic fundraising amount. I think THATS why he hasn't announced..the backers aren't flocking to him like the general public is.
posted by woofwoof on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:29 AM
I was wondering where you were dusty....everthing ok?
posted by dusty1215 on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Of course Woof..I have a new domain I bought and getting it up and running takes an incredible amount of effort..Sagefever is a contributor..I am house-sitting out of town with a wonderful pool and lots of other amenities..which would you rather do? Lounge in a pool or blog on b.com?
posted by woofwoof on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:34 AM
I was hoping is was something like that.....splish splash....instead of tap tap...got ya.
posted by dusty1215 on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:44 AM
lol..in fact..it's calling me now..or perhaps the jacuzzi..my back loves that jacuzzi.
posted by randomfactor on Jul 30, 2007 at 11:45 AM

Opus on Fred Thompson:

http://comics.com/wash/opus...

posted by randomfactor on Aug 30, 2007 at 02:01 PM

Apparently Thompson's going to announce just after midnight on September 6.  Why?  So he can hide his campaign donations until January.  Just what we need--another dishonest Republican.  (But that's a bit redundant...)

http://www.dailykos.com/sto...

posted by mattloch on Aug 30, 2007 at 02:20 PM
I'm still waiting for the Elections Commission to come to a decision on him running an undelcared campaign......
posted by randomfactor on Aug 30, 2007 at 03:08 PM

I hope he announces, *THEN* gets socked with the fine...

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Spam Code SRPOL:  Standard Republican POLitician.

posted by mattloch on Aug 30, 2007 at 03:16 PM
Is the fine the only punishment they can bring against him? I'm not wondering about jail time, but some sort of restrictions on his campaign, or fundraising activities?
posted by NancyII on Aug 31, 2007 at 06:08 AM

Dailykos..yup..now there's an unbiased source.  LOL

Actually I'm delighted with all the negative posts about Fred.  To me, it means there's enough concern that you folks have to start with the slings and arrows.  Up til now it's only been a little shushing around but now you'll get serious with the mud slinging.

Long before the accusations about hiding the campaign fund being the reason he held off announcing, I posted what was given for his reasoning.  It was told that he would declare after Labor Day to maxiimize the exposure of his announcement since people were vacationing, preparing for back to school, and no one would be really into politics til things settle down.  Also it was noted that the contract with L&O has something to do with it.  BUT...for the other side, hiding campaign funds while not being on an official campaign sounds a lot better.

Keep digging Democrats...you're going to need all the ammo you can get.  And I have faith in the fact that you will do your best.  You'd better hope it's enough.  :-)

posted by NancyII on Aug 31, 2007 at 06:25 AM
From the link provided by dailykos.... 

"This is not without precedent. Previous pre-candidates who tried the "testing the waters" committee -- including Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., Rev. Pat Robertson, and Rev. Al Sharpton -- invited FEC scrutiny."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/po...

posted by mattloch on Aug 31, 2007 at 09:33 AM
Nancy: "Dailykos..yup..now there's an unbiased source.  LOL"

Well, if they're so blindly biased, then you should have no problem taking apart their argument or disproving their facts.

Which you didn't bother doing.
posted by badshotblue on Aug 31, 2007 at 09:39 AM

Fred is in the race, it is about time!
And there is absolutely no truth to the rumor that he was waiting announcing his candidacy until his wife turned legal age.

posted by randomfactor on Aug 31, 2007 at 09:58 AM

So let Thompson admit wrongdoing and pay the fines like everyone else did, Nancy.  Or do you want a special exception for him, being a Republican and all?

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