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NancyII - > Things that interest ME -> Michael Savage's long, strange trip
Michael Savage's long, strange trip

Michael Savage's long, strange trip

How a Jewish kid from the Bronx went from swimming naked with Allen Ginsberg to spewing the ugliest bile on talk radio.

By David Gilson

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March 5, 2003 | At first glance, Michael Alan Weiner seems like an improbable candidate to be America's angriest, most vicious conservative radio host. Born 60 years ago in the Bronx, Weiner has lived in Northern California for most of his adult life, making a living as an herbalist and nutritionist. He communed with Fijian traditional healers, got married in a rain forest and studied ethno-medicine at the University of California at Berkeley. He swam naked with Allen Ginsberg, dreamed of being the next Lenny Bruce and wrote a rambling novel about a half-mad alter ego. His son's middle name is Goldencloud. For years, he made a name cranking out a pile of books on alternative medicine, recommending bizarre remedies such as using vitamin C to stop AIDS and kicking cocaine with coffee enemas.

These days, Weiner's more interested in purging the body politic. Using the pseudonym Michael Savage, he's launched a one-man mission to save America from its enemies at home and abroad, which on any given day includes liberals, gays, academics, the homeless, the Clintons, immigrants, feminists, CNN, the American Civil Liberties Union, Muslims and other minorities. Broadcasting three hours a day, five afternoons a week, from a rented studio in downtown San Francisco, he gives voice to the right wing's darkest fantasies. He muses about launching preemptive nuclear strikes on the Middle East ("I wish to God the hatches were open and the missiles were flying!"), suggests gunning down illegal immigrants ("If we had a government, we'd blow them out of the desert with airplanes!"), dreams of dispatching with "commies, pinkos and perverts" and other undesirables ("I say round them up and hang 'em high!") and even paraphrases a remark attributed to Nazi leader Hermann Goering ("When I hear someone's in the civil rights business, I oil up my AR-15!")

Woe be unto those who label him racist, sexist or homophobic -- or even worse, threaten his livelihood. When an Oregon group started a boycott of his advertisers last summer, he became downright apoplectic. "I'm more powerful than you are, you little hateful nothings!" he screeched, before intoning darkly in his trademark New-Yawk accent: "I'm gonna warn you again: If you harm me -- and I pray that no harm comes to you -- but I can't guarantee that it won't." Just last week, Savage fumed about the "brownshirt groups" who dare to criticize him: "You stinking rats who hide in the sewers! ... You think I'm going to roll over like a Kitty? You're wrong!" Such vitriolic ranting is over the top, even by the ever-declining standards of talk-radio decorum. Yet, in this time of war fever and hyperpatriotism, inflammatory rhetoric draws conservative ditto-heads and liberal rubberneckers alike, and that translates into big ratings. Since launching "The Savage Nation" on San Francisco's KSFO 560 AM more than eight years ago, Savage has gone from being just another right-winger with a big mouth, a hyperinflated ego and a sizable chip on his shoulder to becoming the nation's fifth most-popular talk-radio personality, a host with enough leverage to land Vice President Dick Cheney as a guest. His book, "The Savage Nation: Saving America From the Liberal Assault on Our Borders, Language and Culture," has been perched at the top of the New York Times bestseller list for over a month, and now he's slated to get his own program on MSNBC.

Michael Weiner's long and circuitous road has taken him from being a scientist and entrepreneur, through stints as a hipster, novelist and aspiring comedian, to becoming the personification of straight white male rage. Today he likes to play up his unconventional career path, to an extent. He's the kind of guy who never lets anyone forget he has a Ph.D. His Web site reminds visitors that he is a "World Famous Herbal Expert" and the author of 18 books. But just as his gap-toothed grin has been replaced by a row of airbrushed pearly whites on the front cover of his new book, he gives his audience a whitewashed version of his past. The real story is far more interesting, not just for its ironies and contradictions, but for the often disturbing clues it provides about the man now so well known as Michael Savage. He's gone through at least one political makeover. He's turned on old friends, or they've turned on him. If his semi-autobiographical novel is any guide to his own life, he's keeping a few skeletons in his closet.

In the end, the picture that emerges from his books, from interviews with past and current associates, and from his radio show is that "The Savage Nation" is just the latest undertaking of a man who's spent his life trying to get the world to notice him.

Savage's office said he was too busy preparing for his TV show to be interviewed for this article. Earlier interview requests by phone and e-mail prompted an irritated phone call from a woman named Janet, who announced that Savage would not speak with me. Asked if she was his wife -- who happens to be named Janet -- she said she was not. "I am not affiliated with him," she insisted. "I'm just a fan." After a few minutes of testy back and forth, she suggested that it would be unfortunate if my e-mail address and phone number were somehow posted across the Internet.

Savage has come a long way since he emceed school assemblies at P.S. 42 in the Bronx. His father, a Russian Jewish immigrant, made a living selling antique bronzes on Orchard Street. An imposing figure who died of a heart attack in the early 1970s, he is the frequent subject of his son's on-air stories. Speaking at a convention sponsored by the trade magazine Radio & Records in March 2001, Savage recalled getting his first lesson in politics -- and cynicism -- from his dad. "[H]e explained politics to me very clearly. He said, 'You see, this is how the world works ... In this beautiful country of ours there are two bands of thieves: the Republicans and the Democrats.'"

Though Savage waxes nostalgic about such father-and-son moments, it appears that his parents were no Ozzie and Harriet. "I was raised on neglect, anger, and hate," he writes in "The Savage Nation." But growing up with little parental approval or praise was a good thing, he says. "Frankly, that's why I'm driven the way I am."

Savage, who now decries "propaganda about America being the Land of Immigrants," isn't ashamed of his own immigrant parents. However, his Jewish upbringing is strictly taboo. And he often makes Joseph Lieberman, Barbra Streisand and Larry King the butt of stale ethnic jokes. Brad Kava, radio columnist for the San Jose Mercury News and a longtime Savage critic, thinks Savage's ambivalence toward Jews is a misguided attempt to pander to conservative Christians. "He's Jewish, but he always acts like he's Christian," he says. In his book "The Savage Nation," for example, he complains of an anti-Christian bias in America. When Kava, who is Jewish, "outed" Savage several years ago, Savage reported him to the Anti-Defamation League. Dr. Robert F. Cathcart, a longtime friend of the talk-show star, speculated in a telephone interview that Savage says little about his background so that he appears more "neutral" when he discusses Israel or religious topics.

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posted by TomW on Apr 29, 2007 at 01:05 AM
Nancy, you're right.  That is less generous.
posted by coochee on Apr 29, 2007 at 01:17 AM

He is such an ass, I had no idea!

posted by Charlie on Apr 29, 2007 at 07:34 AM

Savage of the far right strikes a good balance to the likes of Rosie O'Donnel, Al Franken, Bill Mayer, and other LW loons.

posted by NancyII on Apr 29, 2007 at 07:57 AM
You definitely have a point there Charlie.
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Apr 29, 2007 at 08:16 AM

I don't think so.  There isn't anyone on the Left who is suggesting that we kill people that we don't like.

posted by NancyII on Apr 29, 2007 at 08:37 AM
That doesn't mean there aren't rabid people on the far left as well as the far right.  If we're going to go tit for tat we'll be here all day. 
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Apr 29, 2007 at 08:47 AM

Another possible partial explanation of Savage:

[Disclaimer: This is completely unfounded speculation on my part.  Don't take anything below as fact.]

It's possible that someone among his past hippie acquaintances -- quite possibly someone whom he saw as a personification of those ideals and was thus the anchor point of some of his emotional ties to the movement at the time -- turned on him and tried to scrw him. badmouth him, or otherwise backstab or betray his trust in some way.

That can be enough to make a person turn completely against something that he once identified with.  What we see now could be a perpetual retaliation against something that blew up in his previous social life.

 

posted by NancyII on Apr 29, 2007 at 08:52 AM

That's a reasonable speculation H4F.  In any case, I don't want him representing my side of the fence no matter how far right it may go.  People like that give the word "conservative" a bad name.  I'm sorry if he had a rough childhood..lots of people do.  But that doesn't give him a reason for such vitriol any more than it gives Rosie a reson for her hatred.  An excuse maybe..but not a reason.

You have to give him credit for marketing though..he didn't get to be the 3rd most listened to talk show by being a teddy bear.  Some people call in just to tell him what an idiot he is.  He eats it up because once again..there's no such thing as bad publicity.  Unless you're Imus of course.

posted by Hardliner4freedom on Apr 29, 2007 at 09:08 AM

Well, I certainly empathize with not wanting people around giving your side of any issue a bad name.

Ten years ago I remember the rise and fall of liberal-leaning radio host Tom Leykis.  Our area of closest agreement was personal freedom and separation of church and state, but his delivery was horrible -- he never let a two-way discussion get off the ground.  He sure had a callous way of defending abortion rights, also, referring to the unborn baby as a "parasite."

Even if I didn't have pro-lifer blood in me, I'd be grimacing, "pleeeeeeze, you're not helping us."

It may be that liberal-leaning shock jocks work out better on TV, and right-leaning shock jocks work better on radio.

Edit:  Speaking of great radio talk hosts that I miss, the libertarian Gene Burns was great.  Dang, I miss that guy.

posted by anonymous on Apr 29, 2007 at 09:38 AM
Charlie, if being a loon was a crime, you'd get the chair. Now try to use that spellcheck once in a while so that it doesn't look like a special ed third grader wrote it for you. Next thing you know you'll be saying Usama Bin Laden strikes a nice balance to Timothy McVeigh.
posted by NancyII on Apr 29, 2007 at 12:05 PM

There are so many anny's running around here I never know which one wrote what...maybe they like it that way.  As for Charlie's spelling or typing..is that really a big deal to you?  My Dad had about a second grade formal education and was a whole heck of a lot more intelligent than most folks I've met.   No one spells or types perfectly all the time and everyone's grammar is off from time to time but guess what.  We're not spelling/grammar cops.    If all you're doing is looking for errors, then you have too much time on your hands and not enough brainpower to add to the actual conversation.

What a person says tells me a lot more about them than the way they write... and what you have to say speaks volumes about you.

posted by coochee on Apr 29, 2007 at 01:24 PM
Nancy, he's so outrageous I kinda think he really is faking it for the money. We have a broadcaster on our lefty side, Ed Schultz. He started his career as a righty, very much emulating Rush Limbaugh. He couldn't make the bucks as a conservative talker, so when the fires finally lit up under the progressive talk radio format, Schultz hung an immiediate left. He comes off as Rush  for leftys. He even talks like him. I don't trust the guy. I know many of us change our political affiliations from time to time (I have) but in these cases, it just doesn't seem sincere.
posted by coochee on Apr 29, 2007 at 01:26 PM

I must confess, I am quite impressed that he hung out with Ginsberg. He's one of my heroes. Love the Beats!

I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix;
Angel-headed hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection
to the starry dynamo in the machinery of the night.
posted by anonymous on Apr 29, 2007 at 01:44 PM
I find it amusing that an old lady who has not left Bakersfield all he life tells us of the virtues of Michael Savage. Anyone who has ever lived in the Bay area is more savvy of the exploits of Michel Savage having experiences the results of his philosophy up close,when I lived in Newark's Fremont and  Foster City.
During the 90's when Rush was spewing his venom from Sacramento Savage was doing his part from  San Francisco  during the days before the media discovered hate crimes. Savage actually encouraged crime, in those days especially against Blacks and Asians. The San Francisco Chronicle   and  the newspapers in Fremont and San Jose carried stories of Savage inspired crimes in the back pages as in those day it was all attributed as "kids" fighting .
Rush did the same thing influenced the same type of activity in places like Woodland and Auburn, mainly conservative suburbs but he did it in a more subtle way by pointing out the advantages government was providing minorities and making these guy believe they were being shorted.
Ah, but it does not matter where Savage came from,  what matters is who supports him,  and in Bakersfield he is....another super hero.
posted by NancyII on Apr 29, 2007 at 02:02 PM

For anny who seems to be too thick to get it..   

"What a person says tells me a lot more about them than the way they write... and what you have to say speaks volumes about you."

So glad I could amuse you. 

 

Coochee...You could be right also.  Like I said..bad publicity sells as well as good.  Maybe better.  LOL.

posted by NancyII on Apr 29, 2007 at 02:03 PM
Anyone know what's up with that blasted helicoptor?  It's driving me nuts and has been flying back and forth for the last couple of hours.
posted by TomW on Apr 29, 2007 at 02:07 PM
Anon, if you can write, I'm sure you can read.  I'm not even going to ask you to read the story, just the headline and the subheader:  How a Jewish kid from the Bronx went from swimming naked with Allen Ginsberg to spewing the ugliest bile on talk radio.
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Apr 29, 2007 at 02:08 PM
Is it black?  ;-)
posted by NancyII on Apr 29, 2007 at 02:15 PM

The one I saw earlier is white underneath and seems to have a dark blue or green upper body and tail.  It's just circling and circling and circling.     At first it was ok but after all this time it's driving me NUTS

posted by Hardliner4freedom on Apr 29, 2007 at 02:20 PM

Interesting.  There are crop-duster helicopters, but I'm sure you've seen enough crop dusters to recognize one that came in the form of a helicopter.

If it's not the cops, maybe a news chopper or even a flight school?

Once I called the Meadows Field control tower inquiring about a low-flying jumbo jet, flying round and round over the general area of Dustin Acres, asking if they knew anything about it.  Terrorism concerns, ya know.

They told me it was a training flight out of Los Angeles.

 

posted by NancyII on Apr 29, 2007 at 02:23 PM

It's not a crop duster..you're right that I've seen a gazillion of them.  It may be a training chopper since the area it's covering seems to be from the airport to the bluffs.  It's the most annoying thing and here it comes AGAIN !!!!!

Training is fine but for over two hours in the same place????

posted by camsgirl on Apr 29, 2007 at 04:27 PM
I've been seeing several of these dark copters in the sky the past couple of weeks.  They sound and look like military ones, I don't remember seeing a light underside, but I'm seeing it from more of a distance.  I always hear them first, then have to search them out.  Been curious about them too.  Figured some political figure was in the area.
posted by NancyII on Apr 29, 2007 at 05:01 PM
These aren't dark so I'm guessing H4F is right and it's a training.  At first I thought it might be the sheriff's chopper since they circle like that but it went on for way too long.  We get a lot of military helicoptors around here but they're easily spotted..being dark green.  Maybe it had something to do with the big do over at Stramler Park or the museum grounds.
posted by antiextremism on Apr 30, 2007 at 07:20 AM
posted by NancyII on Apr 30, 2007 at 08:27 AM
mah favorite heleecopter
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Apr 30, 2007 at 08:30 AM
Ah Airwolf
posted by randomfactor on Apr 30, 2007 at 08:37 AM

Always had a soft spot for "Blue Thunder" myself.  One lackey expresses his disapproval of pilot Roy Sheider by pointing out "He checks his sanity with a stopwatch!"  To which the boss replies, "Whatta *YOU* use, a dipstick?"

--JAFO.

posted by antiextremism on Apr 30, 2007 at 05:40 PM

Don't worry Nanc....one of the pilots was apprehended by Sheriff Youngblood..

The other guy was pardoned by the Bush Administration on condition he rejoin the armed forces as Supreme Allied Commander of the Middle East......

posted by anonymous on Apr 30, 2007 at 06:10 PM
I would worry, they are middle-Eastern men learning only how to take off, and casing the Market Place and Riverwalk Park, those bastions of patriotism.
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