Well, it turns out that Hillary did in fact admittedly fabricate the Bosnian sniper fire airplane landing story.

She's told various versions of the lie in different speech venues.

Inexplicable.

This time, there was smoking gun evidence in the video.

Yeah~ well I'm to loopy to understand much myself...but I been insulted by better myself. I was called un-American also Saber,and was hotter than...well I was prety steamed.Took about a month but I got over it. It was however a fellow blogger that I had a deeper connection with . 

Tom sagely suggests: "Saber, don't know the circumstances of your debate with Publican, but he's been pretty fair with me.  We all have bad days though. You might want to give him another chance."

Sure, no problem.

Who knows? Maybe he'll apologize for calling my patriotism to question among the dozens of other personal insults.

Should that occur, I will, of course, forgive him. I'm a softie for genuine contrition.

It is entirely possible that perhaps his hostile public castigation is just an unfortunate and unmeant act illustrating the penchant of bloggers to sometimes stray from logic to mete verbal punishment of their perceived enemies for some unknown, undefined sin or another.

But I'm really not expecting to hear that he will have had an epiphany.

The last I heard from Pub he was quite reminiscent of the very bellicose James Carville defending the use of plays out of Carl Rove's tactical manual saying he had "no humility" and would continue such savagery giving "as good as he gets."

Carville's recent slam of Bill Richardson as a "Judas Iscariot taking the proverbial 30 pieces of silver" best illustrates the questionable tactic.

I would argue that Carville's stubborn refusal to refute the civility of his attack didn't help Carville's credibility factor nor would that same sort of behavior raise Pub's general likability quotient.

I doubt that Pub cares a whit, but the fact is, his rancorous tactic of using personal denigration to diminish the substance of an opponent's views is largely what lies at the core of our opposing fundamental philosophical and political differences.

So, although an apology would be welcomed, again I don't expect it and it's really no big deal. I don't really take that sort of stuff all that seriously.

I still sometimes like to hear Carville's snarling and watch his glowering visage as rips new rectums for his foes. And the insults hPubster hurls are often quite amusing, especially when accompanied by a smiley faced emoticon. 

Saber, don't know the circumstances of your debate with Publican, but he's been pretty fair with me.  We all have bad days though.

You might want to give him another chance.

My condolences, Tom. Get well soon.

I, too, was recently "tested" in absentia by the Pubster and was informed that I "failed" despite the fact that it was administered in his mind with no participation on my part.

According to his imagined results, my failure proved I am "anti-American."

I hope you got a better deal.

I mean, being a leftist leaner and all, you too could also easily be deemed traitorous.

 Thanks everyone for the kind words.  It helps wash the crow down.

 Tony, sorry that you feel that way.  I usually like to debate with people on whatever terms they choose.  You and Chico tend to get the worst of it since that seems to be your style.  Obviously I've misinterpreted your preference and I'll take that into account in the future.

 Thanks Tony, I appreciate your response.

 An add on to the above post.  After being on this blog for so long, it's not hard to pigeon hole people.  My comments above made it sound like I only respect the two mentioned by name and while I do, they aren't the only ones on here whose opinion I truly respect.  And oddly enough, they aren't all conservatives.  I shouldn't have singled anyone out for fear of leaving someone else out who deserves recognition for positive contributions to the blog.  Many of you have seen, floating around the internet, the one that says bad news or dirty jokes are sent on immediately while inspirational messages are deleted or ignored.  That reminds me of this place.  We're very quick to criticize but how often do we compliment people even when their views differ from our own?

Tha's all I wuz saying.

Nancy,

I didn't take any offens. I just know that Tom gets nasty with people just like Mattloch. All it takes is to disagree with him on something. I've now been drivin to the point where I care nothing for his opinion on anything. He holds absolutely no credibility with me. I'm very disappointed in this, but it is what it is.

 Tony... My reasoning for the comment above is that Tom doesn't call names (that I've seen anyway) and even though poles apart from the right, he is generally courteous.

Having said that, and posted it, I went to another blog where he chastised Chico, subtley but chastized none the less, and I thought "uh oh Tom, don't make a liar out of me.  LOL

My point is there aren't many of us on here who haven't outright called people idiots or some other fun little name but I haven't seen Tom do that.  I also haven't seem many of us publically admit we were way off the mark and cede victory to the other side.

I thought it was good will ambassodorish.

I just calls 'em as I see's 'em.  And you my friend, are one of the brighter posters on board.  (again, no offense to the rest of the posters.

 Only with you Nancy, only with you...........................

 Tom is one of the most even toned, well mannered, and consistant people on the blog.  If we had one, I believe he would make a great good will ambassador.

(no offense to the rest of you)  (and we're not even on the same page politically.) 

 It was a treat to see the two of them debate

 Never seen Humble pie eaten with more class Tom. Nice. Congratulations Publican.

TomW~ you still have "fans"~ count me as one. You Sir are a scholar and a gentleman.

 Heh.  Me too.

 Aww Tom, too nice.  He is blushing.  I look forward to you  thumping him in the next go around.