"Its no secret that McCain had some chioce words for others on the senate floor"

The language he uses is trash, not choice. His temper is renowned in AZ; I remember from when I lived there. He has made many enemies in his home state. He gets re-elected largely because AZ is so down on Democrats since the Mecham/Mofford fiasco. Make no mistake; McCain is one scary dude, and I, for one, would hate to see him having access to military and nuclear weapons. No telling who will piss him off. Someone said here that he was not good enough in 2000; I totally agree. The last thing we need now is a president with an itchy trigger finger.

And yes, he did call Cindy that. But unless I am mistaken, she is not the mother of his children. I think that was his first wife.

  BakersfieldSuperman, it's actually plausible.  I myself am saying that this should be looked into since it's out of bounds even for McCain.  But he has a temper and that is well known.

BTW, try googling those terms (or click this link for just the news stories : http://news.google.com/news... )and pick your article.  Here's one talking about his apology: http://www.asianam.org/mcca...

McCain apologizes for using slur: GOP candidate renounces `bigoted' language

Feb 24, 2000 San Jose Mercury News

Retreating from his adamant defense of his use of an ethnic slur, Sen. John McCain has apologized and issued a statement renouncing ``all language that is bigoted.''

The GOP presidential candidate and former prisoner of war said he regretted any pain caused by describing his Vietnam War captors as ``gooks.''

The apology was apparently released Monday, a federal holiday, but came to light only Wednesday as the Arizona senator arrived in California, a state where one in four residents is foreign-born. He landed in Sacramento on Wednesday night and planned to attend a rally this morning as the presidential race heads into the ``Super Tuesday'' primaries.

BakerSuper, you seem fairly ill-informed about your own candidate.   What *ELSE* don't you know about him?

http://www.google.com/searc...

(And keep in mind the press has been treating McBush like a high-school buddy.  what *ELSE* have they heard that they haven't reported on?)

 Oh and i was wondering where did you get the I hate gooks qoute, I never heard him say it or read that anywhere, even in your reference, so where did you get it from?

 "There there now Johnny boy. I kept the war going so you can get another 3 or 4 thousand of our kids killed in a civil war we have nothing to do with......well.....I mean besides  creating it."

Which is the reason I'll be voting against him.  Because he's nothing more than four more years of the Worst President Ever.

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If we're lucky.  If our run of bad luck continues, McBush just might push his predecessor into the Second-Worst President Ever.

IF McCain wasnt worth of the presidency in 2000, why would he be now? What changes occured to him to make him worthy of the Presidency during the last 8 long years

Because he lost the nomination to the son of a former president in 2000. Bush got my vote in February of 1998 when, as Governor of Texas, he refused to grant clemency to double-murderer Karla Faye Tucker. McCain has the nomination this time around, and therefore will be on the ballot in November.

The other thing is that Obama has been outperforming polls in actual contests against Clinton, so if your theory is right, people would have to be much more afraid of appearing sexist than racist.

People honestly aren't concerned about appearing sexist where Hillary is concerned. She isn't the most feminine woman by a long shot, and her inability to charm her way out of sticky situations like Bill was able to do has relegated her to little more than the subject of late-night jokes. Pennsylvania, once a "sure thing" for Hillary, has become anything but. Every week Obama closes the gap, and with just under two weeks until the primary, I believe he'll beat her. She won't drop out of the race, though, because her campaign is $20 million in debt, and she's counting on the remaining die-hard idealists to donate enough to get her out of the red. Otherwise, she'd have to foot the bill, and she wants to avoid being in that situation any way that she can.

 IF McCain wasnt worth of the presidency in 2000, why would he be now? What changes occured to him to make him worthy of the Presidency during the last 8 long years

 Its no secret that McCain had some chioce words for others on the senate floor, Im sure that he has cussed a couple times that no one knows about much liek everyonther person in any work place anywhere. Expecially when some one is an A Hole. I don't see a problem. Others have said much worse to the same people including some of the Dems.

I don't believe fro one second he called the mother of his children a C**t or whatever. NO opne does because its not even plausable.

Pretty weak there TomW. THe only ones that beliee this garbage are loons.

By the way no local media would confirm this crap you guys are trying to peddle.

Oh and btw I think Tom W tried to aregue the Media is so liberal they are not attacking McCAins charater. Is that right? How bout maybe he is a honorable man and doesn't have a character problem, like CLinton and Obama.

Just saying

You can't have her, etbartley.  She came in second.  I can see where your side would want to run against her, but she's not going to be the nominee.

A big part of this election centers on whether the nation wants to continue the belligerence we have seen from Bush, Cheney and friends to profit a small group of corporate industrialists, or finally give diplomacy and cooperation a chance in the world marketplace of ideas. McCain is all about belligerence as a foreign policy directive. I think most Americans are tired of this current approach, where the net result has been the loss every key ally we had in the world and no reduction of terrorist activity.  We have a huge defense budget, which does not even take into account all our foreign misadventures in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is a defense budget, not a preemptive offense budget. Think of what this nation could do for infrastructure improvements, medical care coverage and education progress with big chunks of that money being redirected. Gosh, we might have been able to repair New Orleans by now. A vote for McCain is a vote for a bellicose and intolerant idealogy that flies in the face of every text book American ideal.

 JohnBurns, I guess we'll see.  The other thing is that Obama has been outperforming polls in actual contests against Clinton, so if your theory is right, people would have to be much more afraid of appearing sexist than racist.

Oh, and while the anti-Clinton side is there, most of the anti-Clintons don't like her because she's more conservative and doesn't support progressivism as strongly.

 I agree, Nancy.  I'm just saying that Obama is leading in the polls and millions of white people are casting their ballots for him in race after race.  Millions of white people are voting with their wallets by donating to him.  10s of thousands of white people are volunteering their time to make phone calls and walk precincts for him.  By any metric, the Bradley Effect seems to be a thing of the past.

Exactly right, Tom; it is not head-to-head, and polls showing Obama and McCain in a close battle head-to-head are just that - polls, many of which were conducted face-to-face or over the phone, where people are more apt to be deceptive in order to hide behind the facade of open-mindedness than they are in the privacy of the voting booth. 

America's love affair with the Clintons has ended, evidenced by the temporary white liberal support for Obama, which is more anti-Hillary than anything else.

 While that may be true to date, the real election isn't until November.

 JohnBurns, if that's true, just show me a couple of states where McCain got more white voters to support him in the primary than Obama got.  I know it's not head-to-head, but more white people have already voted for Obama than McCain.

 If you weren't funding my candicacy for Prez with your quarter of a billion dollars Cindy, I'd drop you faster than napalm on a village you biotch!

http://people.bakersfield.c... 700, 620 )"> I'm telling you.....I don't get no respect! 

McCain's got to denounce and reject this "McCain" character if he's to remain viable in the race.

If he's to remain viable? Obama is supposed to be some kind of threat? Pleeeeeze. Obama is black. America is inherently racist, as both Bill and Hillary clearly demonstrated after voters began tossing her aside like an empty pizza box. Further evidence of this is the fact that once it became clear that Hillary could not win, Al Gore - a white man - suddenly became The Messiah of the Left.

Saying one thing to your face and doing the complete opposite once they're in the voting booth is The American Way. No way does white America elect a black man. The same old tired cries of "Racism!" along with the flailing of arms and gnashing of teeth, will take place once again this November, because although many act somewhat more "PC" on the outside, Americans really haven't changed at all on the inside in the past fifty years.  

<edited>  Sorry, I mixed up the Pensacola crash with the third of his five crashes, the one in the trainer.  He never was much of a flyer.  Shall we not count the first crash for some reason?  It was a "gimme"?

But then, like Bush his daddy was a bigwig, so they had to keep him.

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Try to keep up.

 ...... and Random, if you're not Swift Boatin' ol' Johnny by bringin' up McCain's first plane crash as a trainee at Corpus Christi (you and yer DU buds) then I don't know what is.................

I always figgered whats good for the goose and all that heifer dustola but two wrongs don't make a Wright either.

If ya don't lthink its right when others do it, WHY DO YOU DO IT?

If you're looking for someone with the cool intellectual skills to fix the many problems George W. Bush has left us--McCain't the one. 

Just think--a hotheaded John Adams might have sent troops recklessly into another country.  He'd have no more than a month or two to cool off and change his mind.

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Just like a hotheaded John McBush might push the Button, except for that time-to-cool-off-and-change-his-mind business.

McCain is George W. Bush without the coolheaded reflection.  And yes, I mean that as sarcasm.

 I don't know the history of long past presidents without looking them up individually but I will say that it's a good thing they didn't mave mass media in those days.  I was just told by someone watching the HBO series on Adams that he wasn't liked by many people because he was outspoken and spoke his mind with little diplomacy.  Imagine what he might have said and then imagine that it would have taken months to get to all the people..verbatim or not.  A retraction would have taken just as long to get around.

Yellow jounalism is nothing new...it just took longer to hit the public.

I may do a search, or maybe not, but I'm curious as to how many presidents had tempers and many were true hotheads.

Nancy: ""eyerainians and g**ks!" HEY !  Why is it you can spell out the one but not the other?"

Your right. I changed it to what he actually said - in quotes, of course. We'll see if it passes Jason's scrutiny.

"BTW Saber, this is the funniest of your posts.  I don't agree with it but it's funny anyway."

Thanks.

Yeah, as I have to remind my wife now and then, I actually have a moment or two of humor lurking beneath my dreadfully dry and dour demeanor.

It's just that I view McCain's loutish, neanderthal behavior as certainly not the right stuff of an elder statesman. His confrontational manner is no less than inflammatory and even dangerous when applied to world affairs. We just need someone smarter and more diplomatic running this country, especially during these perilous times.

We've already had nearly eight years of shoot-from-the-lip cowboy diplomacy. Look where that got us.

And I don't even need to go into the need for somebody with some understanding and ability to fix the broken economy. That certainly ain't McCain, either.

We might be gambling on either one of the others, but McCain is a sure bet to screw things up even more. I believe that come November most people will have figured that out for themselves.

So for now, we should just enjoy McCain for the colorful, amusing and sometimes hateful jerk he is and have a couple laughs at his expense, because soon he'll be gone and like Tricky Dick, we won't have him to kick around anymore.

And not going after Republicans.  In what way does that differ from *ACTUAL* right-wing bias? 

 Nancy, I guess the point is that although this one wasn't caught on youtube, a lot of these others have.  I know that the media won't really get into it, but it is consistant with his lack of character.  They are so liberal, they have to pretend not to be by going after Democrats.

Nancy, the country may "survive" in the same sense that America "survived" in the TV show "Dark Angel."  As a third-world country with pockets of wealth here and there.

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No, we're not getting desperate.  We're tapping into what McCain's home-state media have known for some time. 

I'd also like to add this aside: To my fellow citizens~ it is for sure some of us will be highly upset this election cycle. For what seems like an eternity now we have been screaming at each other,calling each others person-hood in to question.Whoever gets the nod this time,I am going to pull up behind that person~even holding my nose~ and try to work together. I do not consider you conservatives the crazy,lying bunch of drooling imbeciles that some of you consider us.We disagree on how to get there.So I will still say war is bad,especially as we were lead into this by a pack of lies. I will still advocate for the least among us. I will still say veterans deserve better treatment.I will still want better health care~how ever we decided to administer it. I will still review movies ;-) I will not call you names, You mean too much to me and My Country to do so and I am too old for such childishness. .

 RF..This country will survive, I have absolutely no doubt of that no matter who is in the White House.  I believe the sum total of what we stand for will always trump any individual.

As far as this wife beating/wife insulting stuff goes.  This is beginning to sound like a good article for the Inquirer.  He said/she said stuff.   Heh...you guys are getting desperate if you're digging up muck like this.  Is there ANY proof that McCain said that to his wife? 

I remember the first book that came out after JFK's assasination.  It was great reading, until a half dozen other books came out either repudiating or agreeing with the first depending on the author, the topic, the person, the time frame, the party affiliation or the agenda.  Ain't it fun to quote without proof? 

Lordy, one just have to love political gossip.  Oh wait, they do the same with movie stars.  :-)

 Saber, that's a bridge too far for me to even speculate about.  The guy has a temper and lacks self-control, but without something to go on, I wouldn't go there.

 Sage, I think you may have something there.  I just laugh it off now.  Thanks.

Nancy, you're assuming the country could survive four more year of McBush.  Even my optimistic father, whose favorite political saying was "The Republic will survive," might be uncertain at this time. 

He has anger issues,of that there is no doubt. "I hate gooks"...heck I use a slew of very colorful words myself,but....not in front of reporters,and not in seriousness,certainly not about Mr Sage. And certainly not in writing.

TomW, I know you know when they attack you,not what you've said, you've done good.But I am saying it anyway~well done! The politics of the past is very colorful and so much fun to see who can come up with the best slur.Cough. Me? I will not miss it's death at all. No more Jerry Springer policy discussions.

Tom, think maybe Cindy's got all that makeup on to cover up the welts and bruises?

Let Doctor Drew work on her for a while, see what comes of that.

We'll find out after the divorce or after he pops an apoplectic vessel and she writes the tell-all.

 Look at it this way fellas, when McCain wins you'll have at least 4 years of barbs to fling.  If either of YOUR candidates were to win, you'd have at least 4 years to back peddle and make excuses for them.

McCain's got to denounce and reject this "McCain" character if he's to remain viable in the race.

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Fortunately, that's his entire campaign strategy.

 "eyerainians and g**ks!"

HEY !  Why is it you can spell out the one but not the other?

BTW Saber, this is the funniest of your posts.  I don't agree with it but it's funny anyway.

 Nice, Saber.  I gotta wonder what Cindy McCain could tell us.  I'd like to put her in a room with Dr. Phil for 6 hours and see if we could get some "straight talk" out of her.

Chico, here's a bit on McCain's consistancy from the prospective of conservatives: http://www.americanthinker....

Senator John McCain's lifetime rating of 82.3% from the American Conservative Union is often cited as proof that he is conservative.  Here is a closer look at that 82.3 rating.

This is the right stuff that endears macho McNasty to the common man. Shows his humanity. Validates him as truly a straight talkin' man's man. He's not takin' no crap from no painted up woman.

If, along with his angry epithets and misogyny, he belched, farted, double dipped the guacamole, scratched his balls and hocked up a loogie or two now and then, he'd be even better loved by the beastly boys.

Hell, they can't wait til he's in the White House so's he can kick crap outta some Sunni butts - or is that Shia? Aw, It don't matter. He'll show 'em. Get us some more soldiers and weapons and then bring on them eyerainians and "gooks!"

Foreign policy? Shoot. Only policy they're gonna get is a piece of the friggin rock on top of their heads.

You the man, John!

 Chico, the problem is that McCain is all talk and no substance.  He hates churches except when he likes them, he's anti-Bush except when he's hugging him, he thinks the invasion of a Iraq was a mistake and a good idea, and that's not even touching on his treatment of individuals.

I kinda know what you mean about NATO though.  Bush has given us 8 years of that from Katrina to Iraq to Bin Laden, Bush makes a speech and then goes and clears brush.  If we look at McCain's vast experience, he basically got where he is because of family connections and his ability to pretend to be something else just enough to fool enough people who don't pay attention.

He's got no substance and barely any form.  He's got a compelling story, but I don't think being tortured qualifies you to be President.

 Your definition of a real man must be someone who will sell out all his beliefs and says anything to get him one step closer to winning his next race.

And you can say this with a straight face whilst voting for Obama. What is that term (coined by one of your cohorts BTW) THE SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF? Is that what that requires?

 I agree with Honch on this one!

This country values form over substance to the point now that we will fall into that trap where we listen only to how things are said rather than what is really said. NATO will be our watchword NO ACTION TALK ONLY!

We'll see where that gets us. I see it in business all the time.

Because McCain is old (relative term) we will eschew his vast experience for someone who speaks well. The problem is, our enemies (and we have them contrary to the Pollyianistic Lib viewpoint) will know we are NATO too. And they will exploit this to their benefit (and our detriment) and we will go down. All the while sounding good......... Politically correct to the max as we swirl down that porcelain bowl of former proud nations........

Heh, Chico.  John McCain himself is a liberal on Tuesdays, Thursdays and every 1st Saturday.  It's part of his crossover appeal that he's held virtually every position on every subject there is so you can always quote him as being on your side.

Your definition of a real man must be someone who will sell out all his beliefs and says anything to get him one step closer to winning his next race.

Good luck with pretending you can help your guy by attacking me. 

Weak sauce TomW!

If you'd done one tenth of what McCain has in your life you'd be lying in the fetal position quivering like a bowl of jello for the rest of your life!

You Libs like the glib hustlers who do nothing but.talk to carry your msg. I'll take a real man to carry mine, any day, warts and all!

 That makes me like him even more

 Maybe, Roy.  If he didn't have a reputation for this kind of stuff (including the nickname "McNasty") I'd think it was just another hit piece.  It just fits him too well, including the "long day" excuse.

 I love those "unnamed sources" Really  now, if this had happened in front of a bunch of reporters don't you think one of them would have reported it.  There are lots of people writing books with half truth and downright lies in them.  In this day and age if you are smart you only believe half of what you read or hear and you get valid collaboration before you pass it on.

 McCain's old. He's supposed to be crazy. That's one of the reasons I'm not voting for him.