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What are you doing to be Green?
There is a lot of talk about being green these days and a lot of ways to do it. Since most of us aren't building homes from scratch, what are you doing to make your own home more green? I suggest compact fluorescent lighting as the first step. Fluorescent bulbs generally outlast their incandescent counterparts and beat them on energy efficiency by a lot. I'd recommend trying some of the new ones. They aren't the flickering nightmares that once dominated the market. If you've tried them and really can't live with it, try putting in dimmer switches everywhere. The new electrical codes are going to require them everywhere that is not required to have fluorescent lighting (since most fluorescents still don't work with dimmer switches). Also, a regular bulb run at 80% power lasts a long longer. Of course, we've all looked at our thermostats as well, making sure they are set to a higher or lower temperature, depending on the season. One of the other things I like are the magnetic sheets that go over the grills of your system in rooms you're not using. For many people, heating and cooling unused areas of their houses is a big waste of energy. Another big loser is the drafts from old windows and doors. The best way to find them is by holding a match or stick of incense and moving it around where your doors and windows meet the jambs. A little roll of foam from your local hardware store can do wonders. These are the very basic things, literally the least you can do and still do something. Next time, we'll bump it up with some stuff on how you heat your water. 55 comments from 15 users
posted by
TomW
on Dec 7, 2006 at 06:39 PM
posted by
randomfactor
on Dec 7, 2006 at 06:41 PM
Done those, every socket in the house save one. Our PG&E bill was $49 this month, up from $29 the past month. But found a draft through the kitty-door to the garage. I'll be plugging that tonight--cat generally ignores it anyway, and we had to move the box inside or face her wrath. . Oh, and multiple spouses really helps you stay warmer at night. Another tip. posted by
jasonsperber
on Dec 7, 2006 at 06:44 PM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 7, 2006 at 06:45 PM
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Dec 7, 2006 at 06:49 PM
Another place to look is for appliances that use power even when off. I once did a throrough audit of my home for invisible energy wasters. I yanked out what added up to a 240-watt continuous load that was doing absolutely nothing. A TV that used 9 watts when off; Two "backup power supplies" for my computers that each used 20 watts continuously when idle; My cable modem uses 5 watts continuously -- it's now on a switched power strip; And other assorted slow leaks of wasted energy that I can't remember right now, but added up to quite a sum. (Oh yeah, and stuck a compact fluorescent in my porch light. Anything that is on for long periods benefits greatly from even small reductions in consumption.) My electrical consumption dropped 60 percent. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Dec 7, 2006 at 06:51 PM
posted by
randomfactor
on Dec 7, 2006 at 06:56 PM
Well, some of us is just pickier than others, I guess, Hardliner... . By the way, check supermarkets--due to a PG&E subsidy, those compact florescents are often sold at FOUR TO THE DOLLAR. Albertsons had 'em last time I stocked up. posted by
TomW
on Dec 7, 2006 at 06:57 PM
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Dec 7, 2006 at 07:00 PM
Hee hee... I saw those bargains. Sam's Club had them last time I stocked up. (I try to shop at Costco now when possible, but there wasn't always a Costco nearby, so I have a Sam's membership.)
posted by
TomW
on Dec 7, 2006 at 07:01 PM
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Dec 7, 2006 at 07:03 PM
Kill-A-Watt... I built one of my own. I'm an electronics whiz and a woodworker. Way too many hobbies. At least some visiting spice last weekend gave us a break. posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Dec 7, 2006 at 11:11 AM
I'm glad to report that I've signed up for recycling. I was hesitant for a long time since they charge for it, but it's sooooooo worth it. My garbage can doesn't fill up anymore, and even at every other week, the recycling doesn't fill up all the way. I'm over the fact that they can make money off of my recycling. I don't have to deal with it. If you have the room, I totally recommend it. posted by
anglo1
on Dec 7, 2006 at 11:13 AM
posted by
mattloch
on Dec 7, 2006 at 11:40 AM
posted by
dgrealish
on Dec 7, 2006 at 11:40 AM
posted by
spicessmokensong
on Dec 7, 2006 at 11:44 AM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 7, 2006 at 12:04 PM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 7, 2006 at 12:16 PM
posted by
adampayne
on Dec 7, 2006 at 12:22 PM
posted by
dgrealish
on Dec 7, 2006 at 01:12 PM
posted by
mattloch
on Dec 7, 2006 at 01:13 PM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 7, 2006 at 01:23 PM
posted by
bakonative
on Dec 7, 2006 at 01:48 PM
I bought a Weather Station that monitors the indoor & outdoor temperature, along with wind gust, humidity inside & out, etc. Now that is winter, I watch the indoor temperature and do not turn on the heater unless it is below 68 degrees in the house. The bad side of this is that my daughters room at the back of the house, always seems cold. But when I relocated the weather station back there it showed the same temperature! I can't figure that out, as it seems her room is always freezing. Also, I want to go and get a magnetic thing for the vent - we have two vents in the den which is the closed room to the heating unit in garage. The den is small, and heat just blasts out of those vents!
posted by
randomfactor
on Dec 7, 2006 at 02:13 PM
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Dec 7, 2006 at 03:17 PM
Tom, you don't usually lose everything if that little battery goes out on your computer, but it does loose track of what time it is. My old imac has that problem. I'm almost positive that windows based computers are the same way. Your info is burned onto the hard drive, so it is very unlikely that you'd lose any files. What's up with the recent post link? All I get is stuff from this morning. posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Dec 7, 2006 at 03:18 PM
posted by
randomfactor
on Dec 7, 2006 at 03:20 PM
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Dec 7, 2006 at 03:27 PM
posted by
adampayne
on Dec 7, 2006 at 04:35 PM
The thing that Pete mentioned regarding better management of the outflow by taking the blue recycling cans and having room to spare in the old garbage can is very true. I see bunches of garbage cans throughout the neighborhoods piled to ridiculous heights each week. That would very seldom be the case with blue can program adoption on a wide scale. With Christmas nearly here I know how full a lot of those garbage cans are going to be with a lot of recyclable materials. If people want to want to bother with going to the recycling centers and get some extra cash for their empty cans of beer or pop I have no problem at all with those folks. But all the paper, cardboard, metals, glass and plastic that can be recycled should be recycled. It costs a small bit from each of us to pick up, sort and process and help the local environment on a lot of levels. posted by
TomW
on Dec 7, 2006 at 05:43 PM
posted by
bakonative
on Dec 7, 2006 at 10:12 PM
Tom and Anglo, give me more info on the heater vents if you would please. The den in our house is located next to the garage where the AC/FAU unit is. So the two vents in the den blast heat. So if I close off one vent using the magnetic thingy, that will force the heat into the rest of the vents, right? But then, in the hallway, where we have our four recliners (ha, ha) there is a huge vent, so should I close that one off too? Or is it truly a vent or only where the ac screen thingys are changed? and.... you can quit laughing at me now.... posted by
TomW
on Dec 8, 2006 at 12:43 AM
Bakonative, what you trying to do is balance the system. My guess would be that you should cover one of the vents in the office. You may even want to cover half of the other one if you're still getting too much heat. The large vent in your hallway is probably a return vent. This is where your HVAC unit draws air in. When you turn on your system, if you hold a sheet of tissue near the vent, it should be pulled towards it. Don't cover this. There are some screens and I'm glad you brought it up. Everyone should check the filters on their air systems yearly. The filter will be in the unit itself. If you can't find it, PG&E will come out for free to check your pilot light. When they are there, you can ask them about your filters. posted by
NancyII
on Dec 8, 2006 at 05:56 AM
posted by
NancyII
on Dec 8, 2006 at 06:46 AM
posted by
tonyh
on Dec 8, 2006 at 06:59 AM
I don't think the vent needs moved. I think that the Installer didn't use any vibration cushions for the Furnace, or main return duct. It's probably nailed/screwed directly to the house framing. The noise that you're hearing is probably vibration through the wall, floor or ceiling (wnatever it's attached to). The empty pockets between the studs and plaster act like a drum and actually amplify the noise. I installed a Whole House Fan in the ceiling above my stairway several years ago, and attached the frame directly to the ceiling joists. When it was runnung, you couldn't hear the TV over the noise. I took it out and fashioned some vibration pads out of foam insulation tape. It did the trick. We can still hear it run, but the noise is more from the fan blades hitting air. If you crack enough windows to eliminate the vacuum, it quiets down a lot. The fan is 4 feet in diameter and has 5 blades. posted by
NancyII
on Dec 8, 2006 at 07:06 AM
posted by
tonyh
on Dec 8, 2006 at 07:38 AM
It CAN effect only the attic/roof framing. The distence of the return air chase isn't as much a factor as the paterial that it's made of, and the method of attachment to the house framing. Maybe the Furnace is sitting directly on the ceiling joists. If that's the case, it'd be an easy thing to lift it slightly (maybe 1/2 inch max) and slide some dense foam biscuits under it. It's really not hard and would take maybe 30 minutes.
My upstairs return air chase is about 8 feet from the Furnace and it's made of foam insulation lined sheet metal. The Furnace at the end of it is suspended (horizontally) from the rafters on metal straps. There is a soft joint between them.
My downstairs return air chase is about 18 feet long and actually boxed into the framing with plywood, with the seams calked and sealed. The Furnace at the end sits on top of the opening, with a thick, rather dense foam gasket for vibration damping. It also has metal support straps attached to the rafters.
They're both very quiet, but the downstairs set-up seems to be the best. posted by
NancyII
on Dec 8, 2006 at 07:44 AM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 8, 2006 at 10:18 AM
http://www.dansdata.com/dan...
Answer: I was interested to see the "university study" (PDF) that allegedly confirms this gadget's effectiveness. It's from Santa Clara University, which is a real institution with a real engineering department, and the authors appear to be real people. But this study starts out reading like a rah-rah piece for the Power-Save, and then fails to actually support the claims made for the thing. If the study's to be believed then the Power-Save - or, at least, the device they tested - really is a power factor corrector of some kind (I've talked about them before, here and here). But since few (if any) countries bill household electricity consumers by power factor, that doesn't matter. Household electricity meters, as I've mentioned before, ignore power factor very effectively. Swap out the old-style PF0.7 power supplies from your twelve computers for new shiny PF0.99 ones, or install a whole-house power factor corrector, and there'll be bugger all difference in the speed at which the little meter wheel goes around. You'll be doing your bit to reduce unnecessary load on the power grid, but you won't be saving any money. The "study" doesn't mention this. Nor does it say anything about surge protection. Hey, what about the DoE report (PDF)? Well, that says that "many utility companies" "usually" charge extra for bad power factor. That's true for commercial customers, but I've never heard of it happening for residential ones. It's possible, especially with modern electricity meters that no longer have the spinning disc, but as far as I know power companies usually just install their own capacitor banks in substations, rather than honk off their customers by billing them extra for something they don't even understand. The DoE report is clearly labelled as being part of their "Motor Challenge" program. That's aimed at industry, not householders; it's talking about production lines, not washing machines. Once again, though, the Power-Save people don't go out of their way to point out that their supporting evidence is not in fact supporting them. What else have they got? Um, some stuff about tax incentives for energy-efficient products "like the Power-Save 1200!" ...but not actually, you know, including the Power-Save 1200. Actually, the term "power factor" does not seem to be used anywhere on that site. And then, there are the inevitable testimonials. Like the prominently featured one from one Bob Kleebauer, who's so impressed with the Power-Save that he, uh, promotes it on radio and TV. I wouldn't be surprised if the Power-Save people have some genuine testimonials, though. People who sell worthless fuel mileage improvers also have them. (The people on alt.engineering.electrical found the Power-Save so uninteresting that they wandered off into a discussion of more straightforward scams after the first couple of posts.) posted by
lmolen
on Dec 8, 2006 at 11:12 AM
I'm doing a lot of the stuff everyone already has mentioned (recycling cans, bottles, paper, cardboard, plastic), as well as buying recycled printer paper, running dishwasher in the middle of the night, dryer and washer on weekends, using low-flo toilets, fluroscent bulbs all over the place, wearing sweaters and keeping the thermostat down. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Dec 8, 2006 at 11:20 AM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 8, 2006 at 11:43 AM
posted by
mattloch
on Dec 8, 2006 at 11:59 AM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 8, 2006 at 01:04 PM
posted by
mattloch
on Dec 8, 2006 at 01:30 PM
posted by
TomW
on Dec 8, 2006 at 01:59 PM
posted by
robbwillis
on Dec 8, 2006 at 02:00 PM
They're fighting over used cooking oil up here on the North Coast. I agree about the feasibility of hydrogen. Unless it comes from using solar, wind or nighttime hydroelectric power to separate it from water, it's not worth doing. Recharging your electric car, when your electricty comes from fossil fuel, is a cheat to me. And ethanol, as we know it now in this country, is inefficient, cost nuetral at best and survives as a federal welfare sop to the midwest. posted by
TomW
on Dec 8, 2006 at 02:08 PM
posted by
mattloch
on Dec 8, 2006 at 02:12 PM
posted by
mattloch
on Dec 8, 2006 at 02:14 PM
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