Adam~ it is a pleasure to "know you" and read your words.

True that.  The people who still listen to the propagandists already hate everyone who isn't exactly like them.  All they are achieving is to more strongly repulse the remaining 72%.

Don't forget that the Republican part of the government created Aids to wipe out the Blacks.  The Reverend Wright said so and he must be right because a "brilliant" man like Barack would have spotted the bullcrap sooner than 20 years under the great reverend's spiritual mentorship.

Um..You obviously don't listen to Hannity often. He is a registered Independent and has been since I began listening to him seven years ago. He generally votes Republican because they more closely line up with his views. I haven't listened to him recently(the radio in my truck quit working)but I do9 not believe he has ever voted for a democrat. He may be disheartened by the Republicans today(as am I),but he despises modern liberalism, so don't get too on high him just yet.

Ideas such as you promote about the War on Terror not being real are the ones that will see us attacked again and your ilk will be the first to call for heads to roll(especially if they are republican heads)when it happens. You say republicans have nothing to promote..well, maybe where the strict party lines are concerned you are correct, but conservatives most certainly have something to promote and that is the long term survival of America and that survival will not come through the fallacy of olive branches to those who would see us destroyed and isolationism.

The war in Iraq is not about the US citizenry, it is about attempting to help a counrty come out of an era of dictatorship. The truly sad thing about that mess is that the Iraqi's themselves have fear so ingrained in ther national psyche that they are still afraid to step forward and grasp the idea of true freedome. They are used to being told what to and doing it or be punished for not doing it. It will take a new generation to fully grasp that idea there.

Stop whining about gas prices everyone. WE, the Americans have the power to bring that to a speedy end, but people are so afraid of the envirowhackos(kind of like the Iraqis, many people have been brainwashed by the ecowhackos since the 70s)that they will watch the economy go down the tubes before stepping up and saying "enough already". If you want to cry about fuel prices, go cry to the Sierra Club and the rest of the few hundred thousand folks who have decided that the hundreds of millions should suffer the effects of foreign dependency rather than a concrete and workable energy policy based on domestic dependency.

Disease and bacteria caused by food prices? Are you kidding me? Using tainted irrigation water and improper handling of foodstuffs are responsible for those issues and corn and grain had nothing to do with the outbreaks of illnesses anyway. Meats, spinach..I believe those were the prime culprits.

You want to stop the obesity and other overeating related problems start with the parents who give their kids an X-box and a refrigerator full of Little Debbies treats, fifty bucks a week for lunch at Taco Bell and start teaching people how to eat again. Stop forcing evolution down our throats in schools and start using that time and money to fund PE classes and teach health classes that talk about how to live healthy and not how to deal with schoolmates who have AIDS and what the most effective forms of birth control and safe sex are.

Yeah..The democrats never use scare tactics, do they? Anyone remember Ed Asners taped message to the senior citezens about how the republicans planned to stop their social security checks> Nothing could have been further from the truth, but that didn't matter to the democrats. The truth rarely does. Even had Bush's plan for privatizing PART of SSI came to pass, it would not have affected anyone who was already on SSI and the democrats knew it, they just neglected to include THAT little tidbit in the message.  Those who live in glass houses....

No one is denying that Obama is intelligent. I didn't hear what Hannity(Sean Insannity..gee..how clever..you need to read my last post)said as far as him being an idiot, but I am certain is had nothing to do with the mans IQ, but rather his plans..or lack of them. Revered Wright IS a madman. A Dangerous, racist, black separatist who has serious issues with white people. And I have seen four separate two to five minute pieces of the speeches in question after he said he was taken out of context. Hmmm..Out of context. The battle cry of the radicals too afraid of PC backlash that they cant even stand up and say "YES..I said that". The man is a menace and NOTHING was taken out of context. He meant every word he said just as he said them.

As to the desperation of the Republicans..Well..You just said yourself that Hannity said he wasn't a republican. McCain looks pretty composed to me, even if I do not think much of him, but I think more of him that the twp mudslinging democrats who, by the way, seem MUCH more desperate than the republicans.

 envirowhackos~ I see you read your last post,Moto.

I think a major stumbling block for both parties is the line between parties is so blurry. I want a conservative president. I haven't had one in my adult life. Heck, even Reagan wasn't that conservative (sorry, Dutch). Now I am supposed to bit my tongue and vote for a republican who is not remotely conservative?

And the choices for the liberally minded are not much greater. Obama lacks any real experience (a valid argument many had against Bush his first time around). He screams "change," but really doesn't get much further than the screaming (yeah, I went to his website and it is void of any real substance). Hillary is really just a prostitute in a pant suit. I firmly believe that if the Right would vote her in, she would jump ship in a minute. The Left's choices aren't jumping off the page, either.

Whatever happened to Liberals being liberal and conservatives being conservative? Maybe they never were.

Motopoet, thanks for your thoughtful commentary on this post and topic. I would like to address a couple of your points in response. The Iraq War never had anything to do with building democracy, or going after the terrorists who attacked us on September 11, 2001. It has always been about removing one of our previous allies who no longer knew his place, and setting up a base of operations to ensure our oil men a major supply artery of crude. One could probably argue that bases in Iraq allow cover and protection for Israel, but providing that service at the enormous cost does nothing to really stabilize the region. We continue to build walls and divide the world with this type of policy rather than finding common ground to make peace. We have for many years of  neoconservative rule built enemies rather than friends.

Funny, there is more terrorism going on in Mexico today than there ever was in Iraq prior to our "Shock and Awe" invasion. If our political will was so disposed to eradicating terror in this world why no real effort to  do anything with our southern neighbor's huge civil war and growing violence? If we don't watch out and make needed changes here in this country we will soon become Mexico: a nation of two classes where a small percentage have all the land and wealth while the other 90 plus% of inhabitants go hungry living amid escalating violence with no alternatives.

On the food and health issue it is a pretty simple reality of factory farming and reliance on too few crops that have resulted in  the spread of disease and our shortened life expectancies. Huge acreages spawned huge pesticide use. We all know where the runoffs and residue end up. Our livestock is fed on products these animals were never meant to eat. The four stomach cow was not designed to eat corn and grains mixed with hormones, anti-biotics and rendered pet-parts to gain weight and live crowded together in pens filled with their own feces and urine. Chickens, pigs and turkeys were also not designed to live in cages and fed these same types of mixtures and then to keep production up hack off bird beaks. The huge dairies that now populate our Central Valley have created a toxic waste problem. Maybe methane capture and creating a new energy source will be some type of solution for some of the waste disposal, but too much waste drains into waterways and ground sources that threaten  our food  and drinking supply.  

Another bizarre reality is that most people on the planet are lactose intolerant. Milk was designed to feed the young, not the middle-aged and old. The endless marketing of products the grown human body has a very tough time digesting as a healthy daily requirement is simply greed at work from capitalists without a conscience and is a bald faced lie perpetrated on our population.

Another source of our health decline is corn and the crop's byproducts. Notably, high fructose corn syrup and other artificial sweeteners and food additives  for flavor enhancement puts a tremendous strain on the human body's ability to effectively process what people ingest daily. With the growth of all the fast food outlets and processed foods in the aisles of grocery stores the corn sugar consumption has gone to dangerous levels in our society. The link to obesity and diabetes is evident in every report you may choose to peruse to confirm this diagnosis. It apparently is not enough to have corn in virtually all of the food we eat today, but we now need to have this very inefficient source of energy go into our internal combustion engines as well. That it takes more energy to make the additive than the resulting concoction will efficiently provide is beside the point in our haste to reward the giant processing plant owners. There are plenty of books and articles on this subject chronicling the rise of corn and the stress it has put on the planet. Don't take my word for it, not that you would in any case.

Also, these are not political problems. These are people problems that refuse to be addressed by our government because the few individuals reaping the biggest rewards own the airwaves, buy armies of lobbyists and utilize major law firms to combat  any  efforts to change  the status quo. The mouthpieces on the airwaves who  marginalize  the angry and frustrated  citizens while distorting science and environmental efforts to inform the public all appear tied to right-wing rhetoric of disinformation. These highly paid pundits all speak the same lines with nary a trace of originality. Don't you find it fascinating to hear all these differing voices on the airwaves of talk radio, in government buildings and the Fox News network all voice the same lines while hammering the very same message for the day?

At this point most people are desperate. People want a change from the policies of the past three decades. There is no conservative at this point in time who has any credibilty left with the public. The key members in the Senate and House over the past many years have all stepped down from the stage. The last remaining voice of any stature left is Newt Gingrich, who is still so damaged politically that he couldn't even run against the very weak collection of candidates that offered themselves up for the Republican nomination. You certainly are entitled to your views, but you are going to see an overwhelming Democratic Party election sweep this November. You don't throw out millions of people from their homes, raise prices of essentials, not provide health care and educational opportunities while protecting just the most wealthy in the nation without causing some blowback from the little folk.

Thanks again for your thoughtful comments, Motopoet.  

What I said on May 15, 2008 at 06:54 PM ~ just a brillant bit Adam.