Its a shame the cavemen didn't know that technique 10,000 years ago. They may have been able to stablize the climate, as you suggest, and may have avoided the ice age......Luckily we have Democrats who have figured out how to control the weather...

Hopefully the guy will limit the amount of home grown cabbage he eats, given that he is living in his mom's basement.

As a matter of fact, ron,  "The earth is currently in an interglacial, and the last glacial period ended about 10,000 years ago."  from Wikepedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...   I'm too lazy to research further than Wikepedia for you.  Go cavemen!

Hmmm.... so the earth has been warming over the last 10,000 years??  Well we better do something about it pronto.  We can't have all this climate change.  It is just not natural!!!!

mexico, I like cabbage and so does my mom.  In fact, she can process it through her body faster than me!  Too bad you can't come over for the experience.  It would teach you some manners.

Perhaps, ron.  You know what else is natural?  Massive population die-offs.  Yeah, starvation and death from disease on a global scale. 

You know what else is natural?  Blowhards in western countries who are sitting relatively pretty just not caring what happens to "those" people.  Not caring enough, anyway, to part with their cherished ideologies. 

I just never heard of an ideology loving you back.  XXOO

Ron,

Here's something that may help explain the issue of non-organic farming, better:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

--virgil

from moRonmexico,

Its a shame the cavemen didn't know that technique 10,000 years ago.

 Actually, organized agriculture began about 10,000 years ago, and was sustainable as practiced. That's why we're here. All early agriculture was fully organic, since Republicans hadn’t been invented yet. That had to wait for the first sustained agricultural surplus, which allowed for the creation of the first useless middleman.

Oh yeah, and the last ice age had just ended.

Cheers!

Over the last few decades The Rodale Institute has published  books on organic gardening and farming methods.   I have read many of them and found them very informative.  They present their information in a clear and understandable format.  I still have my copies of The Organic Gardening and Farming Magazines from the 1970s.  The articles are still worth referring to and sharing with friends.  I took them seriously in the 1970s and 1980s.

Those of us who have the space to garden are far out numbered by those who do not. People living in the Southwest corner don't have the room for zucchini and the number of carrots they could plant (presuming the neighbors cat doesn't 'foul' them) wouldn't make one glass of juice. Add to that HO-A's and other restrictions on grounds keeping.

I'll be ready next spring with a gray water system fed by one shower and the laundry, good thing since my water rates were raised and the volume I can use was lowered (so isn't that a double increase?) The shower and laundry will have hot water from a home brewed solar system.

I'd much rather have an outdoor boiler for all my heat and hot water...add to that an ammonia exchanger and bing, air conditioning with no un natural chemicals.... but the wonderful people at CARB say it's bad for us. so all that wonderful wood can go rot In a landfill. They say that waste oil burners are bad too, but the one I had ran on 100% free fuel, 1000 times less cost than a vege fueled Diesel if your filer material is a bag of rags from goodwill.

30 years or so ago, my Grandfather was part of the heirloom seed movement. Back when it was all done by mail. We mulched strawberries with truckloads of pine needles, fed tomatoes with manure tea and buried fish carcases under the melons. squash and every 6'th row of corn. Kept bees, he made his own soap and canned everything he didn't give away.

I don't have the time to do all that, I have 2 kids to take care of and certainly don't make the money that he did in his career that will allow me to be the eccentric hermit I dream of being. I have the knowledge and the practical experience but I figure by the time I can use it, most of it will be outlawed in some form or another.

So, go ahead , point fingers and piss into the wind. If 'you' win by restricting everything then my kids will live in a figurative bubble, if the environment go's to hell, they'll live in a real bubble.

Let it take care of itself, once the fields are sterile or the skies turn black and no one can live, the earth will heal itself. We all end up in the same place, just like mixing peas with corn in your mashed potatoes.

History shows again and again
How nature points out the folly of men

RAmen

I have room for a HUGE garden.  Too bad I'm too lazy to plant one.  Well, that and the fact that I eat very few veggies.

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Don't mind Ron - he must have forgotten to take his reasoning and critical thinking pill this morning.