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Vegas, Mettler and Why People Leave This Town
Drinking a Pepsi and throwing down my regular healthy breakfast of sausage biscuit, I'm skimming headlines. "Kern High School District trustee Ken Mettler is proposing requirements for all classes to say the Pledge of Allegience. " I almost threw something against the wall. It is a ridiculous crime to dominate the education of our children, the school board that decides how to assist them and the town with this frivilous superfluous bull. What in the world is going on in this town that this is an acceptable use of the school board's time? Nevermind the state testing scores we have, the levels of increasing poverty on the East Side or South. Nevermind the lack of materials or funding. Believe in God and say the Pledge, everything will be swell. If you aren't doing those things, well gee whiz we better spend time and money making sure you do. Grrrr. I've been debating for several years as that I'm still in my mid-twenties whether to build my family here or move somewhere that has vision, art and direction. Do I stay and fight to improve the town or give my talents to somewhere already headed in the right direction? That debate still rages on but it's inching pretty darn close to my saying adieu in two years. These people exhaust me.
34 comments from 11 users
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posted by
mattloch
on Oct 11, 2007 at 09:42 AM
* students stopped saying the Pledge of Allegiance * students stopped praying to God * students started learning about evolution * students were taught sex-ed * etc * etc * etc posted by
commonsense
on Oct 11, 2007 at 10:51 AM
blah blah blah why dont you move to the desert . posted by
sagefever
on Oct 11, 2007 at 11:09 AM
posted by
blognroll
on Oct 11, 2007 at 11:16 AM
posted by
bghayes
on Oct 11, 2007 at 11:36 AM
Coastal regions, which have higher costs of living, tend to attract the wealthy which are more often than not the intellects and savvy. Coastal regions in most cases are more liberal. Hence the West Coast in general being liberal and the middle American land locked conservatism, mirrored with New York and the East Coast. Therefore, going to a desert would be going to a conservative stronghold and going to the coast would most likely mean going towards liberal.
I'll take the coast. posted by
blognroll
on Oct 11, 2007 at 11:51 AM
posted by
robbwillis
on Oct 11, 2007 at 12:39 PM
posted by
randomfactor
on Oct 11, 2007 at 12:41 PM
If I were still of school age, I would resurrect the Nixon-era version of the pledge, which ends:
"...with liberty and justice for al-most everyone." . (Of course--those Godless Heathens the Jehovah's Witnesses will have to be punished for non-compliance, Robb. posted by
randomfactor
on Oct 11, 2007 at 12:42 PM
posted by
mattloch
on Oct 11, 2007 at 12:44 PM
posted by
blognroll
on Oct 11, 2007 at 01:07 PM
When the Pledge becomes mandatory, will there be adult monitors to catch the more savy students lip-synching or will snitches be employed to enforce compliance? Hold the switches, I'm a compassionate conservative. But I would like to be among the first to volunteer to be such a monitor. My resume is rather light for the job, but I have watched plenty of Ashlee Simpson and Britney Spears music videos. posted by
mattloch
on Oct 11, 2007 at 01:10 PM
posted by
TomW
on Oct 11, 2007 at 01:32 PM
posted by
dgrealish
on Oct 11, 2007 at 01:54 PM
posted by
mattloch
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:00 PM
Fixed that for you. (Of course, if people were compelling you to love "Allah" or "Buddah" in school, you might start to see the problem then.) posted by
RosemarysAbortionist
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:01 PM
Name one person who is upset by love of America. Some people get upset, however, when one implies that to love America, one must also love God. To the amazement of some, the words God and America are not equivalent.
posted by
bghayes
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:08 PM
Honestly, I focus on patriotism in the sense of pride in this country and our accomplishments. Forced routines, brainwashing techniques and religion are not the tools I find useful in winning someone's respect. I teach my students to respect our country, our differences and the opportunities they have here that are unavailable anywhere else. There is pride and love in being able to be different and still considered a part of the whole. That's American. posted by
dgrealish
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:12 PM
posted by
sagefever
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:19 PM
posted by
dgrealish
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:21 PM
Well, I guess I'm not the oldest person in here afterall. I was talking from my experience. I thought that was obvious. I apologize, that sounds so awful. Of course you're right and thank you for correcting me. posted by
randomfactor
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:22 PM
posted by
GotREALITY
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:25 PM
posted by
robbwillis
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:25 PM
Everyday rote memorization and recitation works swell for math in the 3rd grade. Use the same method for the Pledge and there's a definite burnout factor in highschool or before. Listening to or singing the Anthem once and a while can be a stirring, patriotic experience. When it's trotted out before every ballgame, it becomes elevator music. I don't expect this simple observation to have much effect on rabid Pledge and Anthem zealots, but as Groucho Marx didn't say to the mother of 10, "I love my cigar, too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while." posted by
mattloch
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:31 PM
I understand that this one thing alone may not be all that harmful. The problem is that some people and groups see this as a "chink" in the Constitutionally-mandated wall between church and state. Those people want to use this smaller issue as a wedge in order to transplant more overt (and harmful) beliefs into the schools. If this were viewed in a vacuum, I may agree with you. But it isn't. This is part of a larger picture. And one which doesn't have a happy ending for many people. posted by
sagefever
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:37 PM
posted by
dgrealish
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:38 PM
posted by
sagefever
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:51 PM
posted by
robbwillis
on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:59 PM
posted by
blognroll
on Oct 11, 2007 at 03:20 PM
My choice is not to have a religion, as I don't need one. If an outside group pays for "In God We Trust" posters in the schools and is permitted to hang them, I will bring an equivalent atheistic quotations to put alongside them. Both my kids are beyond school age, but I'd be willing to go to the expense to encourage the ten-percent or so of students who will eventually grow up not to need a religion either. I heard you've been passing out notes with the phrase IN GOD WE TRUST all of your adult life. Everytime you pay for something that costs a dollar or more, you are participating in the very process you so vehemently protest. So what you're saying doesn't make much cents (or dollars for that matter). posted by
randomfactor
on Oct 11, 2007 at 03:47 PM
It's on the coins, too, BLT. But then again, so is E. Coli--which is much more significant than the raised lettering professing something I don't believe in. For that matter, as I mentioned elsewhere, it says "One Dollar," too, but that's not true either. . And a greater and greater percentage of our kids will grow up not to need religion. More and more young people (under 30) are already saying they have problems with organized Christianity, for example. Folks like ol' Chad and Pope Ratzi deserve a great deal of credit on that score. Isn't that a wonderful thing? Just as hardly anyone sacrifices to the rain gods today. (I do miss them old sky-clad services, though...) posted by
blognroll
on Oct 11, 2007 at 04:18 PM
posted by
randomfactor
on Oct 11, 2007 at 04:21 PM
Folks like Chad, Ted Haggard, Gary Aldredge and such have more to do with it than the structure, I think. . For example, their railing against same-sex marriage when more and more young adults *KNOW* gays personally. When doctrine contradicts your own lyin' eyes, who are you gonna believe? posted by
blognroll
on Oct 11, 2007 at 04:32 PM
posted by
randomfactor
on Oct 11, 2007 at 04:35 PM
Christ was a people, too. . Far too many Christians one meets today are of the sort Gandhi disapproved of.
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