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blognroll - > Dr BLT's Blog n Roll Studio -> Roots of Our Raisins: Do you have to be old or dead to be a Kern County country music star?
Roots of Our Raisins: Do you have to be old or dead to be a Kern County country music star?

BAKERSFIELD SOUNDoff!

Today is the big mural event in which artists honor the great legends of the Bakersfield Sound. 

What I'm about to say may sound like sour grapes.  And don't get me wrong.  I love raisins.  They are sweet and full of important nutrients.  But as it concerns the country music scene in Kern County, where are all the new grapes, that grow from the vine that is our treasured heritage?

It's great to treasure our country legends of yore, like Buck, Merle, Red, Ferlin, or Roy Nicols and Gene Moles pictured here?  But are we content to live in the past, or are we prepared to make new history as it pertains to the Bakersfield Sound.

In addition to the rather impolitically-phrased question already posed, today's other two BAKERSFIELD SOUNDoff questions are as follows:
 

1. Has the old Bakersfield Sound "family" failed in passing their skills on to a new generation of would-be stars, and have they failed in reaching out to youth to carry on their country music traditions? 

 

2.  Have Kern County kids abandoned the rich heritage of the Bakersfield Sound, and, in the process, has each would-be Kern County country star forfeited his/her opportunity and birth right in order to pursue music like that of Korn, that is completely bereft of any hint of influence that could possibly be linked to the Bakersfield Sound? 

It's blog n roll.  I provide the (mostly original) Dr BLTunes, and the topic, and you provide the conversation. 

Ready?  Set?  Blog n roll!

 

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posted by blognroll on Mar 10, 2008 at 07:37 PM
I think this simply means sagacious minds think alike, sage. By Monday, my words will be fogotten. Nancy, you are much too kind, but I humbly accept your encouraging words. And yes, we may in fact be saying the same thing in different ways.
posted by sagefever on Mar 10, 2008 at 04:57 PM

" You can never step in the same river twice. " scary BLT~ I just finished my  next Monday post ,all about the guy who first said that,do not blow it for me,okay?

posted by blognroll on Mar 10, 2008 at 04:56 PM

 I wish I could have been there.  Now, the only possible route to the Blackboard is via the imagination, with a little help from those that were there. 

posted by NancyII on Mar 10, 2008 at 04:42 PM

 PS...I cut my teeth (so to speak) at the Blackboard and spent my 21st birthday there.  Of all the country night clubs that were still around in the 60's, that was my favorite.

posted by NancyII on Mar 10, 2008 at 04:40 PM

 Go back and read my first post.  "Music genres, even within it's own genre, will always be everchanging"  Time flows from one era to another.  It's not like we can say the boomers were born only between this year and that.   Nothing is ever static and nothing is ever in concrete.  Well, maybe unless it IS concrete.

You and I are in agreement for the most part.  I think we're just saying it differently.  All I'm saying is that the Nashville sound was challanged by the Bakersfield sound and is unique to it's time.  Nowdays, everything is a challange to the Nashville sound to the point that it doesn't even have a "sound" any more.

It' all about money and fame.  If it sells, they sing it or play it.  Someone today singing in the old Hank Williams style with his kinda nasally voice probably couldn't get a recond deal.  But you're right, much music has built ON that style.  Every generation brings it's own personality with it...along with some of the past.

Now I'm going to scold you for saying you are unworthy to walk the same streets as such as Homer.  Piffle.....all who put their heart into their music and put it out there for the public to hear are equal.  How many hits did he have again?  Don't sell yourself short.  I appreciate what you're trying to do with countyr music in this town and no one is sadder than I to see it fade away.

posted by blognroll on Mar 10, 2008 at 04:02 PM

 Neither was Homer Joy a Bakersfield boy (not that I wish to compare myself to him in any real musical way).  I'm unworthy to walk the same streets.

But he walked on these streets long enough to know the bumps on the road.  Johnny Cash only spent one night in jail, but when he sang about Folsom Prison, in Folsom Prison Blues, he took everybody there.

Every genre of every generation has a distinct sound that cannot be replicated, but it can be used as a foundation to create a new sound. 

I do not look exactly like my dad, or exactly like my mom, but we share certain characteristics.  The same can be said about the music of different time periods and different geographical regions.  The new music, becomes new by taking some of the old, and putting a new twist on it. 

Also, you talk about time and place like it were concrete and static, when these are actually fluid.  You can never step in the same river twice. 

posted by NancyII on Mar 10, 2008 at 03:38 PM

 You actually validated my point.   That sound was born of a time and place.  The defied the Nashville sound and created their own.  It's not likely to come around again.  Everything in it's turn.

Speaking of Bakersfield boys (you weren"t?..hehe)  Check out Ron Harbin.  Born and raised in Bakersfield, a resident of TN for the last 20 years or so.

http://www.portlandtn.com/r... ....     http://www.myspace.com/dail... ...the latest

 

posted by blognroll on Mar 10, 2008 at 03:28 PM

I hear what you are saying, NancyII, but disagree, to a degree.  Of course none of us can live through the exact experience lived through by those who went before us.  But what shaped the great artists of the Bakersfield Sound was not the details of their experience, per se (though it did play a role in terms of the lyrical content of the songs), but, more important, was the feelings, or underlying emotions that went with those experiences. 

So the songs of our generation will be different, in that we all come from different places, have had a different set of experiences, and have suffered in different ways, and to different degrees.  But musicians can still retain the attitude of non-conformity that was central to the Bakersfield Sound.  And we can retain the spirit of vulnerability and spilling your guts out on the stage. 

The most common experience shared in these songs we treasure from the past is not financial stress or physical hunger, it was the experience of getting your heart broken, of loving someone so much that it hurts, and of that person cheating on you just when you needed that person most. 

These experiences don't change with the times.  And neither does the rebellious, devil-may-care non-conformity---the core attitude that was the signature of the Bakersfield Sound. 

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 10, 2008 at 11:44 AM

 Ron, when you say threesomes (which include you and I) you might want to include the word golf

Some of these people love to let their small minds run away with them   ;=)

posted by NancyII on Mar 10, 2008 at 11:02 AM

 I'll chime in here before the thread is gone.  My comment has to do with the original topic of this blog although in a more general way.  I watched a show last night on Harlin Howard and a couple of other Nashville songwriters.  He brought up an excellent point that, in his opinion,  for soulful music one has to have experienced hardship and loss.  He said successful songs are written by people who have had the expererience and can put that feeling into words.  He cited examples such as Hank Williams "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry."   The Bakersfield sound was originated by people who had been through the depression, the oilfields, the wild honkey tonk days.  They had seen hunger, fear, and lonliness.  The experienced WWII and the prosperity that came from that war, money they had never had before.  Places they had never seen before.  They wrote of heartbreak, hope, loss, death, and new dreams. 

Thos experiences brought a uniqueness to it's time that can't be repeated.  Just as none of our times and world events can be repeated, neither can the dust bowl era, the war of it's day, and the aftermath of such enormous events.

Music genres, even within it's own genre, will always be everchanging.  Always reflecting the times in which it was written.  We cannot ressurect the old Bakersfield sound, all we can do is imitate it, revere it, and know that it is unique.

 

posted by blognroll on Mar 10, 2008 at 10:10 AM

 It looks like the three of us have the last word.  It seems someone got scared of the poetic justice that comes with having one's story or misbehavior told in a song.  I may not have to write that song after all.  Sometimes the threat of poetic justice works just as good as the fulfillment of that threat.  Or maybe it wasn't the song threat at all.  Whatever it was, it seems to have worked. 

posted by allRED on Mar 9, 2008 at 03:14 PM

 I still  wish we could meet     all I ask him was to clean up his post       and he jumped on me     like a fish on a cricket    

He will be back     maybe we will meet @ his camping ground       & nbsp; 

Chico we have a three some going on @ Kern River in the morning      Your welcome

 

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 01:55 PM

 He did -----

Pygmalion Effect Personified!

posted by witterpitters on Mar 9, 2008 at 01:51 PM

Looks like he deleted the whole blog!!! 

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 01:45 PM

 BTW, if interested:::::

P.J. O'Rourke did a number - a genteel, bland, accurate and therefore devastating number - on Sweden in his book, EAT THE RICH.
 

 

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 01:40 PM

 He's turning me in to the Tax Assessor Monday :gutlaugh:

I'm pretty worried

Wonder which County?

posted by sagefever on Mar 9, 2008 at 01:32 PM

*someone* has a capture of the page should any~one need it for defensive measures.

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 01:29 PM

 you shoulda experienced HIS blog!

it was a true Socialist's Utopian Rorschach!

posted by blognroll on Mar 9, 2008 at 01:21 PM
This has become like one of those old-time brawls at the Blackboard. I think I'm going to write a song about this. I had no idea that, like the Blackboard, this thread would become such a hot spot, and such a lightening rod. The song won't be kind to trouble-makers.
posted by anglo1 on Mar 9, 2008 at 01:08 PM

 Darn.  I will miss him so.  Could have been interesting but he seems to have [ help me out here Doc.] developed an almost psychotic hate for chico and alred.  Over the top a bit. IMO.

posted by witterpitters on Mar 9, 2008 at 12:52 PM

YAAWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN 

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 12:51 PM

 Its only too bad people can no longer see for themselves that the true Swedish Socialistic mentality has not changed.

The Austrian Tirol Hostels actually had signs up for entering coaches:

NO SWEDES ALLOWED

I soon found out why

posted by NancyII on Mar 9, 2008 at 12:44 PM

 It would seem that Mr Lynch's prorfile is no longer active? 

posted by sagefever on Mar 9, 2008 at 10:36 AM

No~ but i was just trying to reroute the conversaion ;-) 

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 10:28 AM

 I did some time ago Sage.

Heifer dust and chewin wacky backy  only now!

Thought I toldja

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 10:27 AM

 Started a new thread , you can come there and stop hijacking this thread, Come to me...

posted by sagefever on Mar 9, 2008 at 10:20 AM

Chico~ you been lying to me all this time? No drinking? *amazed * I tell you .

posted by allRED on Mar 9, 2008 at 10:13 AM

 Lynch       where do you happen to hang out       I wasnt trying to get into your comments with Chico     I was only trying to save you from being barred

If your in town in August        it might be nice to see you    thanks for the invite

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 10:10 AM

 Hej I don`t care about your your nimble fingers, I live here and I am coming back in August, start a new thread or meet me you fagggot, quite hijacking threads, put up you old sisssy, come on , leave these people in peace,,, let`s go else whwere...

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 10:05 AM

 Hej Chiquika, Want to meet sometime? you can bring your Allred also, come on ... I`m back in August , let`s have a good ole Bakersfield talk, you funking faggot, Come on , I am so tired of your shiit, Whatcha  say, cuunt?

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 10:05 AM

 uhhhh........ the GDP data is current.

Same source as Random's

Wanna refute his?

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 10:00 AM

 Hej Tonyh, I am not doing this for you, I am doing this for all the threads that these inbred imposters try to hijack and manipulate, Funk you also as I feel that that the censorsship of this forum will  welcome a sane voice that gets rid of these outdated imposters that thrive on ridicule and terrorrist insults to keep the people from having a forum that they can post on without the threat of being made to feel like a fool by outdated and inresponsible data. There comes a time when the poepole have to take a stand against the tyrants infecting the knowledge, You desreve better than that....

posted by witterpitters on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:51 AM

 LYNCH:  does your sweet son know this is how you talk?  Your words certainly belie the picture of yourself you have posted - if in fact that is a picture of you.

tsk tsk

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:50 AM

 It is eminently evident that the vaunted Svedish Mental Health Care System has produced some prodigious results! 

posted by drilnliftcrude on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:44 AM

 Lynch, There's nothing stopping you from starting a separate thread.

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:44 AM

 Hej funk you too allred , come on , let`s get down to business and leave these people alone, they do not want the funking bullshiit that you are trying to inflect upon me, I can take care of myself, start a funking tread my friend, come on, let`s rumble, remember I am 9 hours ahead of you and must sleep some, but I am ready for your shiit, come on....

posted by tonyh on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:38 AM

Lynch, if you're going to get yourself barred for this rant, at least you could be a little creative and throw out the insults less used. This isn't even entertaining. It sure goes a long way to showing the real YOU.

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:36 AM

 Come on... let`s get on with this... leave this thread alone....

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:32 AM

 Sorry Witerpitters . I`m trying to get the old  funker to start a thread that just him and me can piss on to spare the real people that this benifits. I am really sorry that this was hijacked but I am really feed up with the shiit that is creeping into the post.Come on and let`s leave this thread alone....Old Piece of Shiit

posted by allRED on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:29 AM

 I personally don't care how much you cuss Lynch    I would clean up some of your comments    I hate to see any  one Barred

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:26 AM

 Where you go, sorry I made you cry, please start a thread that only we can funk each other on, the good people here do not  need to see our childish shiit . Come on ... where did you go, make those fingers fly on the data we can bring up, you are a sorry outdated old hasbeen, Hej I am too, let`s rumble my friend....

posted by witterpitters on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:21 AM

My goodness boys boys boys!!!!!  whew what a pessin contest this is!  I don't think the good Dr. started this blog so ya'll could get it all wet!!! 

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:19 AM

 Don`t call me a fitta, you År en javla kuk huvud... come on you old faart

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:17 AM

 Hej Chika, start your own thread that we can piss on and let`s leave this thread free, it`s not ours, show some repect old funker

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 09:11 AM

 No someone did not, come on , give me your best shot, you are out to pasture old faart, come on, let those fingers fly on the keyboard to impress the hoards that you are the almighty OZ, you are outdated and struggleling, that is a fact old man, gotta let loose and suck it up and use your wisdom to advise the upcoming, not keep them in a state of terror, use your wisdom and enjoy that you have made it this far and are still living and "enjoying" life. We had it tough enough why try to make it so hard for our children to make it? Why? Why do you want to constantly shiit on me because I made it out of the sewer that was Bakersfield and want to return to give my offspring a chance to see the good things that are disappearing daily. Hej.. I sent my son back to Bakersfield to live what I lived and for him to experience what I grew up with, Did your dad ever take you out to Hart Park to shoot coots for dinner?Funk you... you are a bitter son of a bitcch

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 08:59 AM

 someone got up on the wrong side of futon!

bvg away

fitta

posted by lynchracing9 on Mar 9, 2008 at 08:54 AM

 Why do you follow me , are you a lonely old bitter man that no one will listen to? your place is not here any longer, you are a outdated unconformist, no one cares about your cows, no one cares about your outdated data that they can pull up on thier PC, you are history old man, you have nothing to give that anyone wants to hear, you only vomit drivel,You have a grasp of world affairs that is 20 years old, People do not want to hear that now, people are fighting for their familes and homes and just because you had a GI bill to buy a home and then exploit the undocumented workers to feed your cattle crop you are not really accepted as a voice here any longer, you are outdated  and the world is the world now, your US economy is depending on the world economy , it is not a local Earlimart economy any longer, face the facts, I`m sorry and I know you can only post from what you know, but you do not know any longer, your time is over....you are out to stud.... enjoy

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 08:46 AM

 bvg?

Mr. Van Arsel?

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 08:44 AM

 you seem to lust so after my rope

you are so stress free

must be nice in swutopia this time of year

posted by ChicoEsquela on Mar 9, 2008 at 08:40 AM

 hej emoney

visit factor

he can indulge you

he and his bal of trade hate America first bretheren

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