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blognroll - > Dr BLT's Blog n Roll Studio -> Marylee Shrider: BEWARE OF CONSERVA-PHOBIC SHARKS in these waters
Marylee Shrider: BEWARE OF CONSERVA-PHOBIC SHARKS in these waters

I've posted it where it's likely to be eaten alive by sharks, under Marylee's brave and bold blog thread, so, at the risk of being redundant, I'll say it again, this time in bold print:

For those about to bloodly the bakersfield.com blog waters, for those chopping at the blog bit, unspeakably eager to take a bite out of Marylee Shrider, how about sticking to the topic at hand instead of stooping to personal attacks? 

Marylee, you are absolutely correct, and bold for making such a statement, but you will be hated for that position. 

Those who are prejudiced against you don't understand the concept of protecting the traditional definition of marraige, while upholding the rights of gay people and extending love and kindness to them (following the commandment to love our neighbor as ourselves). 

So instead of making even the slightest effort to understand your position, they will simply resort to cheap shots, and ad hominem attacks.  Prove me wrong folks.  Come out with actual intelligent points of debate.

Posted in the Politics interest group.
Topics: Marylee Shrider, Bakersfield Californian
posted by blognroll on Saturday, May 31, 2008 at 08:47 AM
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posted by Wayfarer on May 31, 2008 at 09:05 AM

Soame ole, same ole;) 

posted by samheath on May 31, 2008 at 09:08 AM

As a curiosity Bruce, I wonder what the reaction would have been had those in Obama's church preached a sermon condemning homosexual so-called "marriage."

posted by gube on May 31, 2008 at 09:10 AM

Why don't you mind your own business??????? Are you a co-dependent???????you act like one by coming to her rescue........you need to attend CA....Co-dependent Anonymous....

posted by blognroll on May 31, 2008 at 09:12 AM

If they used language and terms that were hateful towards gays, samheath I would condemn that hateful language, and those hateful words.  We all have a right to our views and our opinions.  We must learn to express those views with an attitude of genuine agape love. 


posted by blognroll on May 31, 2008 at 09:14 AM

Co-dependent?  No, I would rather see it as supportive.  We must all support one another when we witness an attack on a blogger here, even if that blogger doesn't represent our own beliefs. 

Yes, it is my business, gube, as it is yours, because our business as visitors of her blog thread is to respond.  My hope is that folks will respond respectfully, and with the use of intelligent discourse, not churlish attacks. 

posted by sagefever on May 31, 2008 at 09:18 AM

I would have questioned the person who spoke those words ~ to answer your pondering Sam. What seems to escape you is simply put: Separate but equal is not equal.

 

posted by blognroll on May 31, 2008 at 09:27 AM

Separate but equal is not equal.

Purple and blue are not equal.  Does that mean when you say something is purple, you are discriminating against blue for not also calling it purple?

posted by sagefever on May 31, 2008 at 09:32 AM

BLT~ try to take your own advice "

Come out with actual intelligent points of debate."
posted by johnburnssucks on May 31, 2008 at 09:38 AM

Gube, tomorrow is the start of Be Kind to Animals Week. BLT is just getting a head start.

I'm sending Marylee a bale of hay. Even she has to eat.

posted by blognroll on May 31, 2008 at 09:42 AM

 

He's speaking in metaphors.  Food for thought? Just don't feed us any B.S.

posted by johnburnssucks on May 31, 2008 at 09:47 AM

Susan Allen has also had enough of Marylee's nonsense. Sooz is cute, Marylee is vomitingly ugly. Case closed.

posted by blognroll on May 31, 2008 at 11:16 AM

sagefever, the main point of my blog thread is to urge folks to refrain from personal attacks.  Do you find anything stupid or unintelligent about that concept?  Don't you think that's an intelligent thing to do?  That's the only point I'm trying to make here. 

You haven't taken the low road on this or on Marylee's blog.  Others have.  Others are out for blood.  You are not.  I don't consider you a ConservaPHOBIC shark.  I'm convinced you're a decent human being.  You are one of the ones I'm counting on to raise the bar in this conversation. 

 

posted by possummomma on May 31, 2008 at 11:15 PM

I appreciate the sentiment of your post.  In many ways, we're all guilty of saying hurtful things to one another and acting childish.  I think your concept is fine.  The application is what has raised the hackles of a few  (not me, btw).  In the past, I've been accused of using a large vocabulary and applying evidence/facts/data to support a position...as if that was a bad thing. 

I don't know what you would define as "the low road".  It may be that I fit your criteria.  I can say that I'm not out for her blood.  I find myself annoyed not because of her conservative opinion on a topic, but because she's increasingly dismissive of others.  And, in my opinion, she's starting to look like a caricature of conservatism.  I keep hoping that, at some point in her posts, she'll discuss her articles.  But, she doesn't seem interested in doing that.  Rather, she drops these bombs that get the blogosphere riled up and walks away until the next time. 

In defense of Marylee, I have been trying to stop myself from carrying an opinion of people in the bako blogosphere.   There are times when I read the article with a chip on my shoulder because of past behavior on their part or slights or just the picture of them I have in my head.  That's wrong.  I shouldn't do that.  None of us should.  I'm trying to read every post as if it were unrelated to past posts because I am starting to realize that we really and truly only see one side of people on these blogs.  To say that we really know each other is pushing it (unless, of course, you hang out outside the blog or have history prior to the community).  If someone were to ask me to name your favorite food or wife's name,....I wouldn't be able to give them that information.  If someone asked me to tell them where Nancy was born, I couldn't tell you.  So...how is it that we so quickly think we know a person on here?  How is it that we can judge as fast as we do?  I'll stop rambling now...

posted by blognroll on May 31, 2008 at 11:41 PM

It's not rambling.  Your comments are very insightful and reflective.  The two of us come from very different places, but we always seem to find common ground.  If more people with disparate positions could do that, I think this blogosphere, and, the world itself, would be a much better place. 


posted by possummomma on Jun 1, 2008 at 12:58 AM

Thanks for understanding what I was trying to say.  There's just something about the internet that emboldens many of us to say things, or treat people in ways, that we wouldn't dare do face-to-face, in public.  There are certain posters who I find myself disliking.  And, when I stop to reflect on *why* I don't like them, I end up realizing that my dislike is for something they've said, not them in particular. 

posted by ALICEN on Jun 1, 2008 at 08:31 AM

Expressing an opinion is a great privilege.  And it's true that I usually feel freer to express some opinions when they may be expressed, as it were, anonymously.  Nevertheless, there is still an attempt made not to be contemptuous of another simply because he or she holds a different view than mine.  Many of us forget that it is possible to disagree without a figurative six-inch serrated knife plunged wherever a soft spot may be found.  In other words, can't we just get along?  Why don't we try?

posted by blognroll on Jun 1, 2008 at 09:17 AM

Nicely stated, Alicen.  I also usually like to add, Why can't we all just get a song :)

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