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carlalafong - > glum perspective from a glum burg -> 1st terrorists on american soil? the klan
1st terrorists on american soil? the klan
this article also ran in today's californian, but at the bottom is a link from columnist kathleen parker's home newspaper, where you can read more of her columns.
i was particularly interested to read parker's argument in print, since my aunt has been saying the same thing for some time - that the klan were the "first american terrorists." she likes to bring this up whenever [certain types of conservative] "christians" (one woman in particular, though) start telling her that  "muslims" and "arabs" need to be "wiped out" so that  "we can get america back."  or something like that. 
my aunt delights in listening to these racist rants, then refuting them with the klan argument and watching the ranter shrivel up and go silent, without rebuttal.
the problem's not islam, or christianity (both books can be interpreted literally  to mean just about anything and justify just about any behavior),  but the radical maniacs who claim these holy books preach violence, as well as any "one people" who seem to stand by and allow such violence to occur in their name. http://www.orlandosentinel....
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Topics: radical, terrorist, ku klux klan, christianity, islam, fundamentalists, Religion
posted by carlalafong on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 at 01:54 PM
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posted by mattloch on Oct 31, 2006 at 12:20 PM
The West Wing did a great episode about that very thing a few seasons back. 

And I've been trying to hammer on Sam in here that his stereotyping Islam as a "barbaric" and "evil" religion is completely wrong, and that if he insists on applying the view of radicals as representative as the "mainstream" of the religion, I'll start doing so with Christianity.
posted by randomfactor on Oct 31, 2006 at 12:22 PM
It was the first West Wing done after 9/11, "Lockdown."  
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Unfortunately, it's outdated.  In it, one White House staffer notes that every act of terrorism has failed.  That's no longer true, after 9/11.  But the scriptwriters didn't know that back then.
posted by dusty1215 on Oct 31, 2006 at 01:56 PM
I loved that show. But the clan as terrorists? I never thought of them that way..but I guess they surely were..they thrived on the terror of the brown-skinned residents, thats for sure.
posted by msjenny on Oct 31, 2006 at 03:59 PM
clan was and is  terrorists, and we allowed it,  thats what so sad, but lets build a border so terrorists can not come to our country, but we do not worry about the arabs or muslins that live here, we are afraid to offend
posted by randomfactor on Oct 31, 2006 at 04:01 PM
MsJenny,  nowadays the terrorists are the ones "volunteering" to patrol the border. 
posted by mattloch on Oct 31, 2006 at 04:03 PM
Give me a single example of a "terrorist" crossing the border illegally, Ms. Jenny. Go on, I'll wait.
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