I think it's great!  20 years ago I watched my gay and lesbian friends get bullied and humiliated by our classmates.  Looks like things are looking up!

Not to mention, in high school 20 years ago, it wasn't "Men were expected to be Men and Women were expected to be Women."  It was more like men were expected to be skirt-chasers and women were expected to be eye-candy.  Lastly, EVERYONE was expected to listen to Debbie Gibson and THIS guy:   http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Good news~ and there is plenty that still shocks me. Peoples sexual orientation is not one of them,however.

More queer things happening.  I don't care what people do in their bedroom but it should be kept there. This goes for Heterosexuals, Homosexuals and other sexual types.

Love it. 

It is unfortunate that the No on 8 crowd is so hostile to those that would like to practice bestiality and polygamy... Just a shame..

Ron, if you want to practice bestiality and polygamy none of us will stand in your way.  Just don't do it in the streets and frighten the horses.

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1.  homosexuality is a sexual deviance.

So is celibacy.

2. There are other groups waiting on the outcome of gay marriage.

Great. 

3.  There has to be a moral boundary in our society.  If not, nothig should ever shock you anymore.  Are you willing to be that open minded?

The boundary *YOU* draw allows *YOU* the freedom you deny others.  As the Church Lady says, "How conveeeeeenient!"

RF The boundary *YOU* draw allows *YOU* the freedom you deny others.  As the Church Lady says, "How conveeeeeenient!"

so your saying your for a world with no boundaries no lines eh RF?? hmmm preverts, pedophiles, inbreeding, beastiality?? WOW I knew it your one sick puppy.

I'm saying you're entitled to the freedom you allow others.  Not a millimeter more, not a millimeter less.  

You're looking in a mirror again if you're seeing sick puppies.

Does this shock anyone?

Nope.

Are you willing to be that open minded?

Yep.

What really bothers you is that the next generation of voters are accepting of gays and gay marriage and the bigots will no longer be in the majority.

In the past--and I mean decades ago--a goat was elected homecoming queen. A homo couple appeared at a prom.

I think the kiddies are not endorsing sexual deviance; they are lampooning, perhaps rejecting, the institutions that mandate what they should be and how to think. Beauty queens, proms, even grad ceremonies don't have the prominence it once had. To many students, it represents the cookie-cutter mass production many resent. Shouldn't be surprising that sometimes students want to get in the last jibe.

Students voted for him as a joke. They are making fun of the guy and it is celebrated as accceptance? Whatever, I don't really care. dude put himself the position to be made fun of in this instance and got what he asked for. Sad for him, really.

Students voted for him as a joke. They are making fun of the guy

He doesn't seem to think so. 

RF  I'm saying you're entitled to the freedom you allow others.  Not a millimeter more, not a millimeter less.  

OK now we finally agree..Im willing for them to have their freedom to marry the opposite sex..not a problemo..

The Supreme Court threw that one out forty years ago.

Is that the best you got?  Because--whether you realize it or not--your side lost on Tuesday.

casooner90, it's the 21st century times have changed. You should try to meet gay people, maybe you'll change your mind.

 From the article..."One member of the prom court also said she didn't think it was right for a male student to take the crown."

She was probably jealous that she didn't win.

3.  There has to be a moral boundary in our society.  If not, nothig should ever shock you anymore.  Are you willing to be that open minded?

One's morals do not always make good political policies. Take abortion, many people are morally opposed to abortion, but they would rather let women have a safe legal abortion than one from an unsafe and illegal clinic.

Due to moral reasons I am a vegetarian, but I still think the FDA has a great responsibility to keep meat eaters safe from mad cow and other diseases.

In Bhutan, a Buddhist country, meat was prohibited a couple of months each year due to the state's religious holidays. Despite their morals, governmental officials decided to repeal the meat ban during monthly religious holidays, because people were buying large amounts of meat to last throughout the holidays and getting sick by not storing it correctly.

I'd never thought I would comment about a high school prom. Those days are long over, thankfully.

Morality is absolutely, positively, undeniably, unquestionably, indisputably, indubitably, absitively, posilutely subjective. How you treat your fellow man isn't.

He doesn't seem to think so. 

Nor do the students who spoke to reporters who thought it was a joke until they listened to him.

Like on most subjects, witbee is talking out of the wrong orifice.

Poor kid, he needs our prayers. Not only is he in denial about other schoolmates having a huge laugh at his expense, but he's probably lucky he didn't end up humiliated even further by the homecoming king, likely some football jock.

First he needs to get his head screwed on right, beginning with a reading from Nos. 2357-2359 from the Catechism of the church founded by Christ, who gave his disciples the authority to bind and loosen sins, assuring them that those who hear them hear him: http://www.cityofgod.net/co...

Secondly, he needs to dive into this site as if his eternal salvation depended on it: http://www.couragerc.net/

Then when the world passes away, we'll see who the wheat and chaff are when it comes to being keepers of our brothers and sisters through tough love or a "live and let live" mentality.

Pax, you need the prayers more than he does.

You've got this huge plank sticking out of your eye.

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but he's probably lucky he didn't end up humiliated even further by the homecoming king, likely some football jock.

For all you know the "football jock" and he *BOTH* ended up "getting lucky" that night.  Lots of gays play football.

casooner90, it's the 21st century times have changed. You should try to meet gay people, maybe you'll change your mind. I have met some and never liked them for their view.  Yeah, they're nice people, but I can say the same for many others too.  For all I know, many liberals on this site maybe nice also.  Bottom line is I don't like homosexuals because of their belief and their agenda to convince me of their agenda and they call me an intolerant for their intolerance.  As in Roe v Wade, I will be one of those that will NEVER accept homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style because it does not fit within the RACE, GENDER or AGE argument.

The boundary *YOU* draw allows *YOU* the freedom you deny others.  As the Church Lady says, "How conveeeeeenient!"  Our society without a moral boundary is a scary thought.  If you truly are willing to live in a world without a moral boundary, you are no better than an animal.  I think one of the things that differentiate us humans to animals is our ability know what is an acceptable behavior and what is not.  Perhaps I shouldn't deny others from having their way with animals of their choice.

Folks, I'm a little surprised that someone hasn't brought this up. Fairfax Senior High School is located a couple of blocks from the LA/West Hollywood boundary and serves both West Hollywood and the Fairfax District areas.  I seriously doubt anyone is having a laugh at  Mr. Garcia's expense.  In fact, I would suggest that a fair number of students probably come from households headed by same-sex partners, and think Mr. Garcia's election is quite timely.

I would suggest that some bloggers shouldn't take their life experience at North High twenty years ago or so, and try to paste it onto a quite different situation.

 I have met some and never liked them for their view. 

Bet the feeling was mutual.

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Bottom line is I don't like homosexuals

Anything after this is superfluous.

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Our society without a moral boundary is a scary thought. 

I didn't say there shouldn't be a moral boundary.  I said you shouldn't be allowed to draw it.  I don't trust your judgement.

Where *I* draw the line is in harm to others.    That's where the law draws the line too--and same-sex marriage is clearly on *THIS* side of that line.  *YOUR* side of that line.  It does not harm you in the slightest, in any way you can name.

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Perhaps I shouldn't deny others from having their way with animals of their choice.

Perhaps you shouldn't equate civil rights with bestiality.  Apparently to your mind a guy having sex with a horse is perfectly OK--so long as it's a mare. 

You're right. I'm human and I know what is acceptable behavior and what is not. This is acceptable. Matter Settled.

LOL gopherbro!  North High 20 years ago was exactly what I was thinking of with my first comment.  It was all bottle blonds, Reeboks, jocks and yes, Debbie Gibson.  I survived, but I don't know how.

Perhaps you shouldn't equate civil rights with bestiality. This is exactly my point.  Homosexuality is NOT a RACE, GENDER or AGE descrimination so don't even try it, it's in the same category as bestiality, NAMBLA and every other sexual deviance / perversion.  Don't give me this crap about some brain malfunction written by some misguieded and biased research nut case. 

RF, it is clear that your liberal view is totally opposite of my conservative view.  Therefore, your continual response to my post is very predictable - just as mine are I guess since I find it entertaining to tease you.  The only thing is, I don't know if you're really this whacked or your're just simply argumentative.  Eitherway, you're fun to debate with as your comment reminds me about the people in the DMV line - that you might actually come out of your house once in a while. 

casooner - what dictates sexual deviance to you?  Please define it for me without using the words "homosexual, perversion, bestiality" or "immoral."

Thanks for the great post, gopherbro!

FSG, I have a feeling that Casooner's definition of "sexual deviance" would be "any sex act that I, myself, do not perform."

Sometimes I am a little slow. I am not sure I understand the premise of "moral boundaries." Every attempt (that I'm aware of) to legislate morality has come up short. Admittedly, there are laws that uphold community standards; this is why I can't scream obscenities or run around nude in public. But prohibited conduct is mostly to insure public affairs are not disrupted, not an issue of "morality." 

As a society, our community standards change or evolve. Ever check out bathing suits at the turn of the century? Today's attire would have gotten you arrested back then. For all the arguments pro and con about the varied issues presented on this blog, I seldom read a position based on morality. Nor should I. The American ideal is based on law, its interpretation and intent, its application, not one's "morals."  

Sometimes I am a little slow. I am not sure I understand the premise of "moral boundaries."

It generally means "you must hate the people *MY* people hate."

casooner - what dictates sexual deviance to you?  Please define it for me without using the words "homosexual, perversion, bestiality" or "immoral."

I understand about procreational and recreational sex.  However, and this is from my medic days, putting thing in orifices where things aren't meant to go in could qualify as a sexual deviance (rectum is an example of this).  A sexual relationship where procreation is impossible could also be considered to be a sexual deviance.  For the purposes of promoting a specie (as in humans for example) requires a sexual relationship of OPPOSITE sex.  Any other seems should be considered as a SEXUAL DEVIANCE.  Why is it so hard to comprehend this simple fact? 

An example of a swim suit style change over the time is a weak argument.  Because, if we continue at the rate of the current change, then is it just matter of time before we go nude?  We can evolve to become a better society or we can have a free for all - will you call that being progressive?