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chickenhead - > Now Start The Complaining -> This will make you think
This will make you think
I'm not sure the math is very correct on this...but it does make a
Person think.
 
  Alive and growing in every state... Especially CA...
  Joe Legal vs. Joe Illegal
 
  Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not  economically
Productive for the State of California  You have 2 families..."Joe
Legal" and "Jose  Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and
Live in California.
 
  "Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social  Security Number, and
Makes $25.00 per hour with payroll  taxes deducted....."Jose Illegal"
Also works in  construction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and  gets
Paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
 
  Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week,  $52,000 per
Year.
 
  Now take 30% away for state federal tax  Joe Legal now has $31,231.00
 
  Jose Illegal...$15..00
  Per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year
 
Jose Illegal pays no taxes...
Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00
 
  Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited  coverage
$1000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year.
  Joe Legal now has $19,231.00
 
  Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and
Local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year.
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00
 
  Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food  Stamps or
Welfare Joe Legal pays for food $1,000.00 per  month $12,000.00 per
Year.
  Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00
  Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for  Food Stamps
And Welfare Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00
 
  Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month  $12,000.00 per year  Joe
Legal is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00
 
 
  Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy
 
  Jose Illegal pays rent $500.00 per month $6,000.00 per year Jose
Illegal still has $25,200.00
 
  Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part  time job
After work.
 
  Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his  family.
 
  Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend  the same school.
Joe Legal pays for his children's  lunches while Jose Illegal's children
Get a government sponsored lunch.
 
  Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL  program. Joe Legal's
Children go home.
 
  Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire
Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
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posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jul 6, 2009 at 08:41 PM

Someone already posted this racist propaganda last week.

posted by witterpitters on Jul 6, 2009 at 08:44 PM

YUP FSG.....................MOI!    http://people.bakersfield.c...

 

posted by NancyII on Jul 6, 2009 at 08:46 PM

How do you know Joe Legal isn't non Hispanic?

They...aren't...a....seperate...race... anyway- Get your name calling straight.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Jul 6, 2009 at 08:56 PM

hm ...

Look at what I found :

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

--virgil

 

posted by NancyII on Jul 6, 2009 at 09:16 PM

I said that wrong...shoulda been "how do you know Joe Legan isn't Hispanic?

posted by NancyII on Jul 6, 2009 at 09:17 PM

uhhh virgil, are you  ok?

posted by VirgilAnderson on Jul 6, 2009 at 09:28 PM

You may like this one, Nancy :

http://www.youtube.com/watc...      :  )

--virgil

posted by NancyII on Jul 6, 2009 at 09:37 PM

Ok virgil.  Feel your forehead and if it feels warm take two aspirin and go to bed.

posted by witterpitters on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Virgil is high Nancy...............leave him be.


posted by VirgilAnderson on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:08 PM

  Witters,

That's not nice ... and, I would take it as an insult if i didn't know that you are probably envious - of me.

If indeed I was high.

--virgil

posted by witterpitters on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:14 PM

SO ...............OK ............... You're low.  a high lowlifer who needs to get a life.

envious? not in your wildest wet dream bucko. been around too many of you tokers and you're all nutsoid.

posted by VirgilAnderson on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:18 PM

 

Witter's in a bad mood ... didn't mean to insult you.

--virgil

posted by VirgilAnderson on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM

 

I wonder if ChickenHead is in a bad mood, explaining the reason behind this post.

--virgil

posted by sagefever on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Cute youtube's Virgil~ a thematic response. Poultry...


posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jul 7, 2009 at 07:00 AM

 how do you know Joe Legan isn't Hispanic?

Are you really asking me that question?  There are plenty of undocumented people who are of non-hispanic descent who live in every major city in America.  They come from all over the world.  Funny, though.. just about every argument I see from the "anti-illegals" point of view usually only speaks to the Latin American immigrants.

 

If someone is truely against "illegal" immigration, why is it rare that any of these people ever talk about the many Europeans, Asians & Africans who move here without documentation?  The reality is that many of the people on these blogs touting their anti-"illegal" point of view are buying into the racist stereotypes - most of them probably subconsciously.


posted by JMitchell3365 on Jul 7, 2009 at 08:10 AM

What is amazing is how the point is being missed here.  The point has nothing to do with the color of a persons skin.  The point is persons who have migrated to the USA, specifically California abuse a system which was meant to help people when they fall upon hard times.  The people who abuse this system, legal or illegal, are making a mockery out of the government and the government does not need any help in that department.  The point is the people who work for a living, pay taxes and try to be Americans are getting screwed by the people who are abusing the system.  When are we going to put our foot down?  A woman in Mexico ( and I am just using this as an example) can walk across the border in the morning, have a baby in California in the afternoon and guess what?  California is now sending money to Mexico to help raise this baby and paying for the medical bills!  What part of this is right?  And anyone from any country can do this.  How is this creating a productive citizen for the United States?  It's not!  It is just taking money away from you and me!  That is the point, Joe Legal is getting screwed over by Joe Illegal no matter where he/she is from and no matter what color their skin is. 

 

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jul 7, 2009 at 08:47 AM

Let's put it this way - if instead of "Joe Legal" we saw "Juan Carlos Legal" - that would take away the racist undertones of the "story" by acknowledging that there are millions of Hispanics who are not only legal US citizens, but have been for generations. 

 

As far as abusing the system, I agree - plenty of people, in general, abuse the system, which is why I'm all for reform of the system.  However, instead of wasting billions of dollars building walls that people can tunnel under, I'd rather we make it easier for people to not only become U.S. citizens, not only become better acclimated to our society by promoting more ESOL classes, but by also making them feel welcome to our country.  The more citizens we create, the more taxes they generate, which equals less of a need to abuse the system.

Unfortunately, the majority of racial and/or social groups have all been mistreated over the centuries - from the Irish to the Chinese to the Eastern Europeans to the African Slaves to the Italians to the Mexicans.  In an age when we're more of a melting pot than ever, when more people are educated than ever, you'd think that we'd have a more tolerant and no-nonsense point of view.  

Those who are most sucessful in this life are those who not only anticipate, but adapt to change, instead of those who either ignore it, or refuse to move with it.  We could easily solve many of our problems if we could all think in such ways.

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