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dusty1215 - > Dusty's View of Life -> Bond's record-setting baseball will go into the HOF with an asterisk.
Bond's record-setting baseball will go into the HOF with an asterisk.
From Sportsline.com:

The ball Barry Bonds hit for his record-breaking 756th home run will be branded with an asterisk and sent to the Baseball Hall of Fame.
 
Fashion designer Marc Ecko, who bought the ball in an online auction, set up a website for fans to vote on the ball's fate, and Wednesday announced the decision to brand it won out over the other options -- sending it to Cooperstown unblemished or launching it into space.

Ecko said he believed the vote to brand the ball showed people thought "this was shrouded in a chapter of baseball history that wasn't necessarily the clearest it could be."

Ecko, whom Bonds called "an idiot" last week, had the winning bid Sept. 15 in the online auction for the ball that Bonds hit Aug. 7 to break Hank Aaron's record of 755 home runs. The final selling price was $752,467, well above most predictions that assumed Bonds' status as a lightning rod for the steroids debate in baseball would depress the value.

The asterisk suggests that Bonds' record is tainted by alleged steroid use. The slugger has denied knowingly using performance-enhancing drugs. Fans brought signs with asterisks on them to ballparks as he neared Aaron's hallowed mark.

Bonds publicist Rachael Vizcarra did not immediately respond to an e-mail sent early Wednesday seeking comment about the ball's fate.
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posted by dusty1215 on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 09:58 AM
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posted by robbwillis on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:02 AM
- better than an astersisk...
posted by creepycat on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:11 AM

So it's o.k. to break records by cheating because: Didn't know I was taking sterorids; everybody else was doing it; this should go down in the books as the "steroid era;" there was nothing illegal about steroids...I'm sure there's more. What a wonderful message from professional sports.

posted by dusty1215 on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Maybe they can get a syringe to place next to the ball in the Hall of Fame or a bottle of the cream and the clear? Nah..but it would be a nice bit of irony.
posted by OldBlue56 on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:20 AM
Everyone is assuming that just because this guy is going to put an asterisk on the ball means the hall of fame will display it that way. I am sure they have the final say if they get it. FYI, I also think this record is tainted.
posted by dusty1215 on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:23 AM
OldBlue..The HOF has said they will display it however its given to them..but they also said that doesn't mean they support the pov that its a tainted record. They have no pov on that..they want to stay out of that discussion.
posted by gsisola on Sep 27, 2007 at 05:08 PM
Lets get real here, back in the day no one checked any one for anything. Ruth and Mantle would have never made it under today's "magnifying glass". Even the "say hey kid " one of Bond's "family members" admitted he used to mix up a thermos of what he called "game juice". Bud Selig should take all of his asterisk's and put them were the "sun don't shine". Are we just so upset that these records get broken? I was young but I can remember the same hoopla when Aaron surpassed Ruth, *get over it ! * He did what he did on *the field* ... same goes for Pete Rose in my opinion, he belongs in the HOF, he did what he did !!
posted by dusty1215 on Sep 27, 2007 at 05:17 PM
Ah, I hate to break it to you but it isn't Bud Selig's asterisk. From my post:

Marc Ecko, who bought the ball in an online auction, set up a website for fans to vote on the ball's fate, and Wednesday announced the decision to brand it won out over the other options -- sending it to Cooperstown unblemished or launching it into space.
posted by gsisola on Sep 27, 2007 at 05:25 PM
I don't care "who's" asterisk it is, it's a record breaker *like it or not*
posted by dusty1215 on Sep 27, 2007 at 05:29 PM
Well you incorrectly railing at Bud Selig. The record breaking ball will be displayed with an asterisk..whether you like it or not.
posted by gsisola on Sep 27, 2007 at 05:35 PM
Here is the bottom line Maris hits 61 and people don't like it, put an asterisk on it, if Mantle would have done it ? Probably no asterisk. People dont like Bonds, *too bad* Did anybody come down on Big Mac when he set the record, NO, why ? People like him, no steroid use there...hmmmm. Hey and why do you have to come down on me with that attitude, what did I do to you ?
posted by dusty1215 on Sep 27, 2007 at 05:40 PM
Your the one with the attitude..I just gave you a dose of your own "tude". Seems you can dish it out but you can't take it? The owner of the ball created a website and let people vote on what should be done with the ball. Evidently more people wanted it displayed but with the asterisk. Who am I to say they are wrong in their beliefs?

Btw..many writers that vote on HOF nom's have said Big Mac won't be getting their vote on the first ballot.
posted by gsisola on Sep 27, 2007 at 09:29 PM
Oh, I can take it, not a problem, but I really didn't comment on this to get in a battle so lets just keep it on topic and not go personal, please. All I was trying to say is Mr. Bonds did what he did. I mean lets compare him to Mantle or Ruth since that is the "company' he is in. We all know the "reps" and the history of these players, is Barry all that far off in comparison if you shine the "scrutiny" light equally. How do you think Ty Cobb would look "under the microscope", not well I assure you, Mantle, Ruth and Cobb would probably be ran out of the league if they were players today. Sorry if I came off rash to you, clearly not my intent, my apologies. People clearly do not like Barry Bonds, but he did what he did, that is all I'm saying, and you can't take that away, asterisk or no asterisk.
posted by dusty1215 on Sep 28, 2007 at 07:23 AM
Steve, I don't like Bonds, but I also think what I think about him means little to anyone but myself. The writers who vote for the HOF inductions are the people who's opinions matter when its all said and done.

Boozing it up like Mantle, Cobb and the rest is vastly different than attempting to cheat like Big Mac and Bonds did. I don't understand that whole mentality of taking something that can possibly hurt you like steroids..do you?  I am being serious when I say that. The sport of baseball has to clean up its own mess and frankly I hold them all accountable for turning a blind eye to the doping that took place in the 90's and this decade.

If Bonds had been a nice guy, perhaps people wouldn't be so harsh on him now..but he was an arrogant s.o.b...then so was Ty Cobb during his era. Bonds will have to pay the price for not being truthful about what he did in order to play at the level he did for so many years. His body is already beginning to pay the price for his use of steroids.
posted by gsisola on Sep 28, 2007 at 08:40 AM
I agree Dusty that steroids are a very dangerous thing to mess with, just ask Hulk Hogan and Lyle Alzado (rip). All that set aside, it is my belief that an active player in any sport that sets some kind of record deserves that record as his own without the attached asterisk. I almost understand the asterisk hung on Maris (59 homers in 154 games, 61 in a 162 games). But when it comes to career marks, if someone scores more than 2,002 points in the NFL in less games or more games than George Blanda, is Blanda or whoever surpasses him going to get an asterisk hanging on them. I understand the fan voting on Mr. Ecko's website. The asterisk just leaves a "bad taste" in my mouth, it's like we are trying to say that they didn't do what they did.... and they did, regardless.
posted by johnburnssucks on Sep 28, 2007 at 03:17 PM

In a totally illegal and predjudicial action, the IRS should single out Ecko and hit him with a 100% stupidity tax on the price of the ball. What's another measly $752,467 to a guy like Ecko?

posted by dusty1215 on Sep 28, 2007 at 04:08 PM
Michael , the kid that caught the ball got hit with all the stupid taxes..
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