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Diary of a Christian Terrorist
From Alternet, via HuffPo:
Inside the mind of the Liberty University student who planned to kill protestors at Jerry Falwell’s funeral. Visitors to Mark David Uhl's Myspace page will quickly learn that Uhl is a student at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University, that he is a devoted Christian, that his name means "Mighty Warrior" -- and that he likes Will Smith's saccharine tear-up-the-club track, "Switch." Uhl reveals his career ambitions on his page as well: "I will join the Army as an officer after college." Already, Uhl was preparing in Liberty's ROTC program. Uhl waited until he was offline, however, to reveal his plot to kill the family of itinerant Calvinist provocateur Fred Phelps (famous for their "Fag Troops" rallies outside soldiers' funerals). The Phelpses planned to protest Falwell's funeral, a bizarre stunt designed to highlight Falwell's somehow insufficiently draconian attitude towards homosexuals. Uhl made several bombs and allegedly told a family member he planned to use them to attack the Phelps family. He was arrested soon after and charged with manufacturing explosives. On the surface, Uhl appears to be the latest version of Virginia Tech rampage killer (and "Richard McBeef" author) Cho Seung-Hui. Indeed, both Uhl and Cho were alienated young men who conceived or carried out campaigns of mass murder on college campuses. But there is a crucial difference between Uhl and Cho: while Cho's motives remain a source of intense debate, Uhl was an a devout evangelical Christian who advocated religious violence in the name of American nationalism. Uhl's blog, featured on his Myspace page, offers a window into the political underpinnings of his bomb plot. In one post, Uhl implores Christians to die on the battlefield for "Uncle Sam." He justifies his call to arms by quoting several Biblical passages and reminding his readers that the "gift of God" is eternal life. "Christians, we have been given life after death and we should help others receive it and not sit here in our big buildings and sing to ourselves so we can go home and feel good about ourselves," Uhl writes. "Christians, fear of death, fear of death. The fear of death shows you don't believe." Uhl concludes, "God needs soldiers to fight so his children may live free. Are you afraid??? I'm not. SEND ME!!! " Uhl's imploration sounds eerily like the battle-cries of another, more notorious religious radical: Osama bin-Laden. Consider what bin-Laden told " the Independent in 1993. "`I was never afraid of death... As Muslims, we believe that when we die, we go to heaven. Before a battle, God sends us... tranquility." Christian right leaders from the late Falwell to James Dobson have turned Muslim-bashing into a cottage industry, using the words of bin-Laden and his acolytes to allege that Islam is an inherently violent religion that "breeds" terrorism. After meeting with President George W. Bush two weeks ago about Iran and Iraq, Dobson conducted a hysterical five-part broadcast hyping the threat of radical Islam. (CD's of those broadcasts will soon be available on Focus on the Family's website, with all proceeds going to support Dobson's kulturkampf -- and his paycheck). The response of Dobson and his allies to Uhl's arrest will reflect more on themselves than on any impressionable 19-year-old college student. The Christian right has warped religious doctrine to advance a Utopian political worldview that promises to purify the land of liberal decadence. Through one of its flagship universities, the Christian right produced a terrorist. Their hysterical warnings of the threat of radical Islam sound increasingly like projections. But then again, maybe it's all Will Smith's fault. 37 comments from 14 users
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posted by
GrpThink
on May 24, 2007 at 09:03 AM
The rightwingers will say that this wasn't a terrorist plot, but just a misguided and troubled youth since to them only Muslims can be terrorists.
posted by
randomfactor
on May 24, 2007 at 09:06 AM
Of *COURSE* he was misguided and troubled. He went to Liberty University.
posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 09:13 AM
I guess Timothy McVeigh wasn't a terrorist by those standards GrpThink?
posted by
randomfactor
on May 24, 2007 at 09:29 AM
Of course not, Dusty. He was white. By their standards Hitler was just "a bit misguided." . (Apologies for exceeding the Godwin Limit.) posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 09:30 AM
Oh thats very sad and disturbing Random.
posted by
randomfactor
on May 24, 2007 at 09:31 AM
OT: Apparently Gore will be on Daily Show tonight...
posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 09:33 AM
He's pushing his new book. I will have to dvr that sucker. Thanks Random! :)
posted by
sagefever
on May 24, 2007 at 09:45 AM
Scary~and wrong.Christ was a warrior alright~but Gandhi,King patterned themselves after him.In case the difference escapes any~no bombs ..ideas..I want cable!!!!! It is like living in the dark ages.. posted by
mattloch
on May 24, 2007 at 09:48 AM
Boy, you know, I don't condone or support "terrorism", and certainly not violence, but I'm torn on this one. Religious nutbag takes out religious douchenozzle. I think I may have to consider this one a "push" and move on......
posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 09:51 AM
Mattloch, as disgusting and vile as Freddie Phelps is....I do not condone someone using terrorist tactics to take him out. The problem with that type of action is that innocent people will undoubtedly be harmed as well.
posted by
Perezoso8
on May 24, 2007 at 09:51 AM
Who cares. More factoids to get some cafe-leftists' emotional juices flowing. In terms of terrorism the islamofascists have outperformed xtians for years (even baptists have yet to fly planes into buildings). And communist murderers have outperformed fascists, but most dupes who attended schools or colleges in the CA edu-gulag never learned that. posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 09:55 AM
Is there any possibility that you will ever be capable of posting a comment that isn't an attack Perezoso? Your one self-centered tool.
posted by
GrpThink
on May 24, 2007 at 10:00 AM
I guess Timothy McVeigh wasn't a terrorist by those standards You've seen the posts by the rightwingers who make the claim only Muslims are terrorists. When you bring up McVeigh or Kaczynski, they disappear from the thread. posted by
GrpThink
on May 24, 2007 at 10:01 AM
Of *COURSE* he was misguided and troubled. He went to Liberty University Wasn't this point brought up in the thread about the the guy who microwaved his baby girl and wanted to be a preacher? It appears to be a pattern. Time to profile all Americans who attend religious schools. posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 10:02 AM
Well GrpThink, I don't think they disappear, they just don't respond to the comments that bring up the anglo terrorists.
posted by
GrpThink
on May 24, 2007 at 10:03 AM
I do not condone someone using terrorist tactics to take him out Phelps is more useful alive than dead. As long as Phelps and the Dobson's around, the religious right will never be able turn the U.S. into the theocracy they so desire. posted by
GrpThink
on May 24, 2007 at 10:04 AM
In terms of terrorism the islamofascists have outperformed xtians for years You're ignorant of a lot of things, history included. posted by
GrpThink
on May 24, 2007 at 10:06 AM
Is there any possibility that you will ever be capable of posting a comment that isn't an attack Perezoso He sure is one hateful person. I wonder if he has any friends with his attitude. Probably not for long once they get to know him. posted by
TomW
on May 24, 2007 at 10:06 AM
Yes Perezoso, Islamic terrorists have used terrorist tactics more that Christians have over the last several decades. Do you think that that is inherant in the religions or is it more of a reflection of the socio-economic makeup of the groups and their access to power?
posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 10:06 AM
So your saying they are their worst enemy GrpThink? If so, I agree.
posted by
GrpThink
on May 24, 2007 at 10:31 AM
Do you think that that is inherant in the religions or is it more of a reflection of the socio-economic makeup of the groups and their access to power The socio-economic part. The social unrest in Europe last summer is a perfect example. The riots had nothing to do with religion even though most of the rioters were Muslims. It had everything to do with those people being shut out of the economic opportunities offered to other groups in Europe's society. The same examples can be found in other parts of the world as well. posted by
talkofthetown
on May 24, 2007 at 10:33 AM
"You'll know we are Christians by our love."That's how we judge Christians. So Mr. Uhl would not be judged favorably. It's not any more complicated than that. PS. Sorry, this is Steve Swenson talking here. Forgot how I was signed on posted by
GrpThink
on May 24, 2007 at 10:35 AM
So your saying they are their worst enemy The sad part is that they know it, yet they continue the same destructive behavior. What is very telling to me is that Doc ignores their behavior and yet will criticize ours. And we're no where near as bad as they are. Doc's a fraud as far as I'm concerned when he claims to be a psychologist. posted by
randomfactor
on May 24, 2007 at 10:35 AM
How would Jerry Falwell be judged, Steve? Shall we play back the quotations of the past twenty years?
posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Which is what I say all the time Steve..where is the love when I see Christians spouting hatred like Dobson, Donohue, Robertson and Falwell.
posted by
Perezoso8
on May 24, 2007 at 10:52 AM
"In terms of terrorism the islamofascists have outperformed xtians for years " GrpThink:""You're ignorant of a lot of things, history included."" It is you who has never bothered to read anything about the history of Islam. Start with the Ottoman Turks (some nice piccies of like xtian heads decorating Turkish spikes)--tho' I doubt any reliable world history texts are available at the Punkin' Patch Lie-berry. The point is that this is another of these Kos or DU-like leftist posts meant to get the comrades' little resentment going. They don't bother discussing sharia, or the brutality of Islamic society (a completely anti-feminist society as well), or the brutality of various communist regimes, but if they find some xtian or supposed conservative nut to attack, they pounce. And a BC staff member chimes in, to make sure everyone sees he's doing his little PC act. posted by
TomW
on May 24, 2007 at 11:11 AM
Right, Pere. But let's be careful to eliminate our own witch trials for instance. Nobody, I think, is contesting your assertion that more terrorism is branded as Muslim rather than Christian. That seems to be settled. Now I'm asking you why you think that is.
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on May 24, 2007 at 11:17 AM
I think the suggestion is that we must not say one word about Christian extremists until every last Muslim extremist ceases to exist and becomes forgotten by history. Then, and only then, will it be OK to criticize Christian extremists. They're looking for any excuse, any rationale, any reason to get us to not criticize Christian extremists. Sorry, but we aren't going to shut up. posted by
randomfactor
on May 24, 2007 at 11:23 AM
The Christian terrorists are *HERE*. That makes it important to criticize them even over the Islamic extremists. If I were a resident of Iraq I wouldn't give a fig about the nutcase with his holy molotov cocktails.
posted by
sumo211
on May 24, 2007 at 11:24 AM
Well...I say too bad that old Phelps didn't get the chance to meet his maker like he sooooo wants to do. It's his way of leaving Jack Kevorkian out of the equation...but just another way for an old guy to 'git er dun'! I'm sure it's hard work, time consuming and just plain ol' expensive to travel all around and be so obnoxious at the end of the day. So what better way to get some attention for himself than to get offed. He's got plenty of followers to do his bidding. He doesn't want to go down in obscurity.
posted by
sfinboston52
on May 24, 2007 at 11:39 AM
This is just a nutter kid who has some mental issues! Luckly they caught the little christian terrorist
posted by
blackdog
on May 24, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Theres nothing like lobbing a few bombs to stop the disruption of a funeral... They sure breed em dumb over there...
posted by
antiextremism
on May 24, 2007 at 01:42 PM
Yeah Perez, you're right about Muslim terrorists. Death to them all. But the Ottomans were minor leaguers on the pike thing compared to the Christian backed count of Dracul..........VLAD THE IMPALER!!!!!!!
posted by
anonymous
on May 24, 2007 at 01:44 PM
Yeah you Cal Berkeley and Stanford educated Morons. Eveybody knows that Venezuela has all the best universities.
posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 01:55 PM
It just goes to show that all terrorists are not Muslim..once again. Terrorism is a tactic. Those who use this tactic are called Terrorists.
posted by
steveeswenson
on May 24, 2007 at 07:00 PM
Dusty,Christians who become political leaders sell out to constituencies that don't have much to do with being Christian. They have a right to voice their opinions, but those aren't the church leaders who lead churches that I attend. Outside of the political arena, people like James Dobson have fantastic advice on how to raise families and maintain relationships. How would I rate Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson? They are self-inflated, pompus blowhards. They are not my leaders. posted by
dusty1215
on May 24, 2007 at 09:01 PM
But Steve..the majority of the people that know about Dobson know him by his words against gays or anyone else he doesnt' deem fit to inhabit the same earth as 'Christians'...people of faith need to call him on it.
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