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editorials - > Editorials -> Bush: Don’t starve the needy
Bush: Don’t starve the needy
PUBLISHED 4-2-07

Congress must put its foot down and stop the administration from taking food from seniors and the poor.

For the second year, President Bush wants to eliminate the Commodity Supplemental Food Program that supplies such commodities as rice, orange juice and peanut butter, among other things, to food banks, local senior programs and pregnant women to help feed those in need.

The Agriculture Department’s $100 million program, for example, helps the Golden Empire Gleaners deliver bags of food to clients.

Last year, Congress approved a 10 percent cut in the program’s budget. It has to stop more program erosion or elimination. A proposal to shift recipients to food stamps and other programs — which can be less economical, slow to respond to needs and subject to waste — is not an acceptable alternative. It is such a small sum for our neighbors who deserve help.
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posted by editorials on Friday, March 30, 2007 at 04:08 PM
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posted by blognroll on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:16 PM

Very little is as it appears to be on the surface.  Of course it's very popular these days to assume that the only reason George W. Bush does anything, or doesn't do something, is because he is either evil or stupid (some would say both, but don't realize the inherent contradiction).  Maybe there are problems with the program.  Maybe, for example, most of the money goes to administrators. 

posted by sagefever on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:17 PM
 This nation  will be judged by how it treats those citizens who are most in need,any society is judged by this.Balance the budget by cutting excess in ridiculous spending~we now spend more on "protection" ,the military ,than all the worlds governments combined. Feeding the poor and the elderly should be be increased not threatened.It seems that some in power want to say "I spend Less" by anyway they can. We should be ashamed.
posted by Shsrebel10 on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:26 PM

Thank God the democrats took over congress, because now I doubt Bush will get his wish of eliminating the program.  The Bush administration won't help anyone who doesn't have an oil well or an oil tank in their backyard.  Bush doesn't even give proper healthcare for our troops in Iraq who he sent over there for oil.

posted by mattloch on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:29 PM
BLT, for any government program, the amount of money spent on "administrative costs" is infinitesimal compared to the same costs of private companies doing the same work. Look at the amount of money that any of the major charities spend on administrative costs sometime.
posted by blognroll on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:30 PM

I'm just raising one of a number of prospective hypotheses, Mattloch.  But of course, it's easier if you already hate Bush and anybody associated with his administration to assume nothing but evil intent, or severely compromised intellectual functioning.

You do a great job of  reinforcing stereotypes about Republicans, Shsrebel10.  I'm getting sick of the self-righteous notion that Democrats are all knights in shining armor and all Republicans are evil, rich, haters of the poor, war-mongers, and haters of freedom. 

posted by dusty1215 on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:31 PM
You can't feed the poor and wage a war on two..or is it three fronts now? Got to have priorities..shame on BushCo.
posted by Shsrebel10 on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:31 PM
blognroll, can you actually name anything that Bush has done that was smart or helpful?  Bush doesn't even know how to say the word nuclear properly.  Another thing, I never mentioned the Republican stereotypes, but since you mentioned it, the Republican party (with the exception of a few) have done nothing but to help back up their own stereotypes.
posted by dusty1215 on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:32 PM
Bush is who she went after BLT, not all Repubes..calm down jeez. Try not taking attacks on BushCo so personally why don't ya?
posted by blognroll on Mar 30, 2007 at 04:54 PM

"blognroll, can you actually name anything that Bush has done that was smart or helpful?"

Yes, actually I can.  He did a pretty good job of the jokes he presented at the dinner he spoke at the other night.  He's been a staunch defender of the unborn, and he did a great job of comforting the nation immediately following 9/11.  Sorry folks, but I've got to run. It's been invigorating debate.

posted by Shsrebel10 on Mar 30, 2007 at 05:29 PM

BLT, the only thing Bush has done to the unborn is contribute an increasing abortion rate.  He has signed budgets that give millions of dollars to the pro-choice group Planned Parenthood, and his abstinance only programs are degrading the use of birth control, which would prevent more abortions. 

As far as 9/11, I'll give you that to an extent.  He did a relatively good job following 9/11, but hasn't done really anything in the longrun.  Bin Laden was never captured, and our borders (especially the Canadian border) are not secured.

posted by blognroll on Mar 30, 2007 at 06:50 PM
Oh yeah, that reminds me, Saddam was captured under his watch.  How quickly we forgot about that---a pretty good catch, I must say.  Actually there have been numerous terrorist leaders that have been captured under his rule.  He has not contributed one cent to Planned Parenthood.  And as for as "degrading the use of birth control," as you put it, "I'll give you that to some extent. "
posted by Shsrebel10 on Mar 30, 2007 at 06:58 PM

BLT, here's your proof that PP has recieved funds from the Bush Administration http://www.covenantnews.com...

As far as capturing Saddam, he did so while costing 60,000 Iraqi and over 3,000 American lives after using faulty evidence for his claim of WMD's in Iraq.  Yes, Saddam was a bad guy, but he should have caught Bin Laden instead, who was the real threat to the U.S., not Saddam.

posted by blognroll on Mar 30, 2007 at 08:04 PM

Thanks for the link, I must look into this further, but it certainly appears that the funds were made possible by something he signed.  Sometimes information is presented in such a way to appear to suggest one thing, when quite another thing is warranted, when all of the facts have been gathered. 

As far as capturing Saddam, he did so while costing 60,000 Iraqi and over 3,000 American lives after using faulty evidence for his claim of WMD's in Iraq.  Yes, Saddam was a bad guy, but he should have caught Bin Laden instead, who was the real threat to the U.S., not Saddam.

The loss is overwhelming.  "I'll give you that, to a certain extent."  Certainly at this point in our history, going into Iraq looks like a terrible mistake.  I'm hoping that in the long run, we can turn things around over there.  Bin Laden doesn't wield the influence he once wielded, but, if for symbolic effect alone, catching him would have been nice.  It wasn't for a lack of trying. 

 

posted by anonymous on Mar 30, 2007 at 08:27 PM
Yes it was for lack of trying, spending the resources on a  macho trip was worth more to our hero than ringing the OBL bell.
posted by blognroll on Mar 31, 2007 at 12:11 AM
I think depicting it as a "macho trip" Is a bit of a simplification.  Bush did not make the decision to go to Iraq alone.  In fact, most of the biggest get-out-of-Iraq-now talkers among the Democrats once voted to go to war with Iraq.  And if you say that they were all just going by the president's spin on the "cherry-picked" intelligence he had gathered, then I'll ask you this: Are they all a bunch of sheep, or do they have minds of their own?  Perhaps they were all on "macho trips." 
posted by TomW on Mar 31, 2007 at 12:43 AM
They didn't vote to go to war, they authorized the war.  Big difference.  The Iraq War Authorization was presented as a negotiating tool.  Bush never came back for a declaration of war.
posted by blognroll on Mar 31, 2007 at 07:43 AM
In terms of the the point I was trying to make, the difference is moot, Tom.  Either way, they threw their support behind the war effort. If you're implying a bait and switch deal, that's a bit of a stretch.  Even if they had a gut feeling that going to war with Iraq may be a disastrous road, they shouldn't have made a deal with "the devil."  They should have run as far as they could from anything having to do with a war plan for Iraq.  That was the time to "cut and run."  If they missed that golden opportunity, I don't see how Bush is to blame.  Many act as if Bush put some sort of spell on them. 
posted by adampayne on Mar 31, 2007 at 08:34 AM
It is painfully obvious that there is absolutely no point in posting these political topics any longer.  Nothing changes. You have a staunch set-in-their-ways Republican Bush apologist group opposed to an equally implanted and inflexibe Bush basher faction. Facts that should matter are always mangled and mixed with vitriol and contempt for the other side. Who needs it? These political posts are now the most boring parade of inconsequence on the planet. 
posted by blognroll on Mar 31, 2007 at 08:58 AM
You have a point, Adam.  These types of posts do tend to draw "...the staunch set-in-their-ways Republican Bush apologist group and "...an equally implanted and inflexibe Bush basher faction."  I guess I know which of these groups I represent.  The shoe may not fit perfectly, but with a little effort, I'm able to slip it on. 

So I'll wear it.  But like every good "staunch set-in-their-ways Republican Bush apologist" I'm going to stop short of an apology. 
posted by coochee on Mar 31, 2007 at 10:44 PM

This is such an upsetting story. I wonder what Bushes Jesus would do? And Adam, yes, you are right, but I have to go on. I don't think he gives a flying "eff" about the poor. Look at how he handled Katrina.  

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