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Hey, you Catholics, get back to confession
Under the stuff you can't make up, the Archdiocese of Washington is starting a media blitz to get Catholics back to confession.
A story by Michelle Boorstein of the Washington Post notes the archdiocese has launched a major marketing blitz, advertising on buses, subway cars, a billboard, the radio and in 100,000 brochures in an effort to get people back to the confessional. Seems that what used to be long lines of people waiting to go to confession, and the priest hearing a relentless outpouring of sins by his parishioners for hours, has not been scaled back to 30- or 45-minute increments or by appointment. The ad slogan is, "The Light Is On For You." (who wants a light on when you go confess your deep dark sins?) Ask any Catholic and they will tell you some, or many, confession horror stories in their life. When I was a young adolescent, I went in and told Father Altar Boy Coordinator about some impure thought I had that Sister Mary Better Than All Of Us made me feel so guilty about that I nearly fainted in the booth. Indeed, when I became a Lutheran, the two reasons I cited were a better insurance plan and a direct confessional to God without any of the prayer penance. Plus you could go to heaven right away without the Purgatory intermediate step, which could be lessened with buying votive candles or novenas. Poor people obviously had to stay longer. So, what up Catholics. Are you going to go back to confession or are you going to put your archdiocese is the position of asking whether an ad campaign is good stewardship of the Lord's money? Posted by Steve E. Swenson 95 comments from 23 users
posted by
ladyblues44
on Mar 31, 2007 at 07:47 AM
I personally don't believe in any organized religion. Millions of dollars are put into the buildings while it could feed or house the poor. I have found the more often a person goes to church the bigger the hypocrite. Former Catholic here, I live by the rule treat people like you want to be treated, yeah, yeah I know hokey works for me. More folks should try it.
posted by
paxchristi3
on Mar 7, 2007 at 07:19 PM
Funny, I thought Allred was a Calvinist, no? At any rate, here's something interesting a Calvinist has to say that would make ol' Calvin roll in his grave: http://www.christianitytoda...
posted by
anonymous
on Mar 6, 2007 at 08:36 AM
To Catholics and allRed, being a Calvinist I think your both full of dung!
posted by
talkofthetown
on Mar 5, 2007 at 08:05 AM
Thanks, Random, for another point.A little splash on the forehead is plenty. Especially in this water conservation times. posted by
randomfactor
on Mar 5, 2007 at 07:54 AM
Remember, folks, when doing a baptism, don't forget the heel of the foot you're holding the baby with. That's what got Achilles, in the end.
posted by
steveeswenson
on Mar 5, 2007 at 07:40 AM
Sorry. I was negligent again.Ron, you're right. Bible says nothing about infant baptisms. Having said that, I don't think God is against them. Churches who have them also have confirmations which is in effect a second confirming your faith in God once you have arrived at an age of reason. Regarding confessing sins to a priest, I think God is cool with that too. Those who do that believe they are confessing to God too. So no harm, no foul. Of the things that will get you to hell, infant baptism and confessing to a priest aren't among them. posted by
woofwoof
on Mar 5, 2007 at 07:05 AM
In Acts 2:41 we observe that they received the word, THEN they were baptized. In Acts 8:12,36,37 we find that they believed, THEN they were baptized. In Acts 10:43,44,47, it is plain to see that those who believed received the Holy Ghost, and THEN they were baptized. (Lost people do not receive the Holy Ghost). posted by
allRED
on Mar 5, 2007 at 05:35 AM
Martin Luther was a break-way from the Catholic Church I, dont agree with the Lutheran Church any more than I agree with the Catholic Church. Martin did open up the Word of God which the Catholic's refused to do, the Word was hidden for centuries by the Catholic's. King James version written in the 16 hundreds opened up the Word to all. The True word was finally given to all and without false translations and Traditions. Pete got it right when he said "I may be getting this totally wrong, but wasn't the original intent of the baptism ceremony supposed to be cleansing the body and spirit of 'original sin' thus putting one on the path of eternal salvation?" Pete and you are totally wrong, Jesus said you must be born again, not Baptized 1st then believe, again Bapitism does not save you another false teaching from all that pratice baptism before believeing. Ron. posted by
paxchristi3
on Mar 4, 2007 at 05:16 PM
Pete got it right when he said "I may be getting this totally wrong, but wasn't the original intent of the baptism ceremony supposed to be cleansing the body and spirit of 'original sin' thus putting one on the path of eternal salvation?"
As for Allred, I don't know if you checked out the rest of the link and came across this quote that should give you pause about interpreting the Scriptures in a way that the Holy See would consider to be anathema to its teachings: It was this perennial Catholic devotion to the Bible which prompted Martin Luther--who certainly cannot be accused of Catholic favoritism--to write in his Commentary on St. John: ``We are compelled to concede to the Papists that they have the Word of God, that we received it from them, and that without them we should have no knowledge of it at all.'' posted by
randomfactor
on Mar 1, 2007 at 03:02 PM
Exactly, Ron. These days, though, God speaks directly only to schizophrenics. . And Prometheus was chained in Hades and tortured for bringing fire to mankind against Zeus' wishes. While that's not something I might want to do, remember that Sisyphus was imprisoned in Hades for the crime of being a smartass. . Woofwoof, it was no prime rib... posted by
woofwoof
on Mar 1, 2007 at 02:28 PM
Oh snap, now I have to go to confession for having impure thoughts....
posted by
woofwoof
on Mar 1, 2007 at 02:26 PM
I got an extra rib outta the deal too!
posted by
nooneisabovethelaw
on Mar 1, 2007 at 02:05 PM
No, we're not telling them they're following false beliefs. Just stupid ones.
posted by
robbwillis
on Mar 1, 2007 at 01:08 PM
Ok, if the girl gets a pass, what about the apple-distributing tree snake?
posted by
woofwoof
on Mar 1, 2007 at 01:04 PM
I really laughed out loud at this, Random: "If folks *REALLY* believed in the power of adult baptism *AND* the reality of heaven, they'd hold the head underwater as long as it took to get there" PRICELESS! *GIGGLE*. posted by
GrpThink
on Mar 1, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Did God use a number 2 pencil? Or was it a ball point pen?
posted by
allRED
on Mar 1, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Pete the girl was not responsible, Adam was created 1st then women, she is subject to man. God put all in Adams hands, he was tempted by woman and fell by woman. Just like man today, we fall for them. Adam could have said no, but he loved Eve so much. Men today would give their lifes for there women and childern, We are from Adam and we will do the same.
posted by
allRED
on Mar 1, 2007 at 12:41 PM
What ever Random I guess if God Himslef had written it and handed to you then you might say, well it's possible. But God does not deal with men/women that way only after they believe does he consider you a son/ daughter. You want to see before beileving, it doesnt work work that way, just like baptiism, believe 1st, then be baptized.
posted by
randomfactor
on Mar 1, 2007 at 12:31 PM
Scripture was written by man, to serve mens' purposes, and interpreted by men for men's purposes. I'm not the least bit interested in Scripture except as an intellectual curiosity. I can show you the mythology the Greeks and Romans lived by, too. Their fairy tales were more entertaining. posted by
robbwillis
on Mar 1, 2007 at 12:26 PM
original sin is the sin of Adam But wasn't that the girl and the snake's fault? posted by
allRED
on Mar 1, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Random I can show you scripture all day long = they were baptized after they believed. So it's not a matter of interpretation, Pete the original intent was not cleansing of the body and the spirit, original sin is the sin of Adam, Jesus died for that but, only if you are born again not baptism, Baptism is after you believe Jesus came and died, not before you were baptized. I see the catholic church has done it's work, find me other than the catholic writings? show me/ no show to yourselfs they were baptized to be saved before they believed, show me they were baptized before they knew who Jesus was or ever heard of Him? posted by
randomfactor
on Mar 1, 2007 at 09:22 AM
Lavo, re-sin, repeat. . (Spam word EAEVL) posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Mar 1, 2007 at 08:48 AM
I may be getting this totally wrong, but wasn't the original intent of the baptism ceremony supposed to be cleansing the body and spirit of "original sin" thus putting one on the path of eternal salvation? Perhaps if it's done more often than once it's something other than baptism. Cleansing the soul perhaps?
posted by
randomfactor
on Mar 1, 2007 at 08:35 AM
And Ron, they quite truthfully say the same thing about you. It's *ALL* interpretation.
posted by
allRED
on Mar 1, 2007 at 07:48 AM
A Quote from the link Pax setup: The words ``came out of the water'' do not necessarily imply total immersion. They could just as well imply that Christ came up on the shore of the river Jordan after standing ankle deep in the water. This is not to say that the Catholic Church considers Baptism by total immersion invalid--she simply does not consider it practical as a universal form. Matt 3:16 And Jesus when he was baptized went straightway out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon him. I dont believe this referrers to Jesus walking up out of the water. In the link Pax posted: Quote it would be hard to baptize a infant because of full immersion. Again I repeat, Faith in the death, burial and reserrection of Jesus cannot be obtained @ the age of 3 months. Baptism doesnt save. The Catholic church has always followed the straight line of the Word of God but, they take from that line and pull whatever suits there new teachings. The straight line of God from the Catholic's ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~They take meanings and distort them, unless you know the True Word of God most can be fooled. posted by
randomfactor
on Feb 28, 2007 at 04:21 PM
Ron, thanks for your concern. Been spending days with a sick friend at the hospital, as I'm the one with the most daylight hours free. . As to how many times *THIS* former Catholic was baptised, just the once. I've got a baptismal record kicking around somewhere. Thank God it didn't take. . If folks *REALLY* believed in the power of adult baptism *AND* the reality of heaven, they'd hold the head underwater as long as it took to get there. posted by
paxchristi3
on Feb 28, 2007 at 04:15 PM
To answer Ron's questions regarding the number of times Catholics are baptized and the pointing of John 10:16 to the pope as being the "one shepherd," simply click on one of the links under "Pope" and "Baptism" at this link.
I'm afraid I don't what you're insinuating by asking how many times Catholics are baptized. All I know is that infant baptisms are permitted and the article at the aforementioned link explains why. posted by
allRED
on Feb 26, 2007 at 06:18 PM
I was worried Dusty Audrey this is my new baby 8 weeks and two daysold, her name is Bailey posted by
dusty1215
on Feb 26, 2007 at 05:28 PM
Jeez..the vw again.. :P
posted by
mattloch
on Feb 26, 2007 at 03:37 PM
Ron, I belong in this blog about as much as you and Pax do in a blog about science. I made my "snarky" comment already, so I'm tapped out. I just enjoy watching you and Pax fighting over who's "right" in your world(s) of imaginary invisible people and made-up rituals....... kind of like watching two Trekkies arguing over Klingon rites of succession, or two Star Wars geeks arguing over "midichlorians". Entertaining to a point, but pointless in the end.
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Feb 26, 2007 at 03:24 PM
Sorry Ron, I'm just fine. Been too busy, and this isn't really my cup of holy water.
posted by
anonymous
on Feb 26, 2007 at 03:02 PM
Baptized once a week or more if one falls more often
posted by
allRED
on Feb 26, 2007 at 02:55 PM
I hope Pete, Random and Matt are ok Maybe they got Fumed out in the VW Wagon.
posted by
allRED
on Feb 26, 2007 at 02:50 PM
This is Steve's blog and he has not made one comment?
posted by
allRED
on Feb 26, 2007 at 02:48 PM
Pax How many times are the Catholic's Baptized?
posted by
allRED
on Feb 26, 2007 at 02:34 PM
Guess what Pax John 10:16 refer's to the Gentiles which we are, My friend it doesnt mean other people that are not Catholic's, SORRY. Your so called Church is worst than the Islam Churches today, Your Church has killed as many for not believeing Catholic as the Islam people. No Church has any right to kill those that dont believe their way. NO CHURCH posted by
NancyII
on Feb 26, 2007 at 06:47 AM
Tom :-)
posted by
TomW
on Feb 25, 2007 at 11:27 PM
Nancy, thanks for this: "I'm secure in my faith and any beliefs I have come straight out of the Bible. You know...the words written in red there...not here." Well said. Y'know, there's an empty seat in the VW with your name on it. ;^) posted by
paxchristi3
on Feb 25, 2007 at 11:05 PM
Allred, I'm fully aware of the unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit, so my criticism of the constant "reforms" since Luther's original "reform" was directed at those who think they know better than the original Christian church that has lasted 2,000 years with an unbroken line of popes. You should think about Jesus time and again going into "Peter's house" to explain to his disciples what his parables meant. "Peter's house" in Rome works the same way.
John 10:16 says just as much: "And other sheep I have, that are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd." posted by
anonymous
on Feb 25, 2007 at 08:23 PM
I hear you are going to need more than rest to cure that wicked banana slice off the tee.
posted by
allRED
on Feb 25, 2007 at 07:31 PM
Have a golf date in the morning need my rest trying to break 80 before I turn 65. Have a great night all.
posted by
NancyII
on Feb 25, 2007 at 07:29 PM
Ron..there was no question. You just made a statement. And you would have to tell me where I posted ANYTHING against the Word here.
posted by
allRED
on Feb 25, 2007 at 07:22 PM
Sounds like you didnt answer my Question about Baptism Nancy but you headed off to a new subject, World council and who is this world council? there no diffent than the United Nations, I guess you believe they do there jobs right in protecting the world. When you check into the Council you'll find most of those pastors and preist are from the churches I've been talking about. Some aloud Gay Preachers, some are Rabbi's(not Christians) some are Catholic's and etc. I'm glad your happy so I dont need to answer you anymore on this, But if you post something False agaisnt the Word, I'll be here.
posted by
anonymous
on Feb 25, 2007 at 07:14 PM
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posted by
anonymous
on Feb 25, 2007 at 07:08 PM
I've changed my mind. Allred is a bigot.
posted by
NancyII
on Feb 25, 2007 at 07:02 PM
And you're the one to decide that others have false beliefs? Another thing I find interesting is the fact that Pastors, Ministers, Rabbis and Priests have all come together for world councils and yet you, who I doubt has been to a seminary, are telling the Catholic Church that they are following false beliefs. And please, don't assume that because I rarely get into religious discussions that I am "a post sitter a middle of the road a really know little of nothing concerning Christ and His church. " Enough already..this is pointless. I'm secure in my faith and any beliefs I have come straight out of the Bible. You know...the words written in red there...not here. posted by
woofwoof
on Feb 25, 2007 at 06:59 PM
I was born right the first time, thank you very much! The bible was written my man. posted by
allRED
on Feb 25, 2007 at 06:48 PM
Audrey dictates: I call it sharing my Love of Christ with others and teaching them the Truth, how can you bring someone to the Lord under false teachings? But again as you say WHAT EVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT GIRL.
posted by
allRED
on Feb 25, 2007 at 06:42 PM
Nancy I never said you had to be Baptized to go to Heaven again your putting words in my mouth, What I did say if you have time to be Bapitzed after being Saved, Being Born Again. As for Jesus and His Apostle's read the Word when it comes to false teaching i'm a baby compared to what they said about false beliefs. posted by
AudreyB
on Feb 25, 2007 at 06:40 PM
Red The major difference between you and I is, that your religion dictates that you convert others. Mine assumes you know what's best for yourself. I don't think I'm better than you are and I don't think you're better than I am. I just think we're different. Our readers recommend: |
