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Do you believe Jesus rose from the dead?
Easter week seems a good time to ask this question — do you believe Jesus rose from the dead?
The question presupposes you believe in Jesus and he was both God and man. So you can address those issues too if you want. I found the following article helpful in analyzing this topic. In a nutshell, it says the Roman soldiers had every reason including their own lives to protect the tomb, and the apostles were too scared to be seen out in public until Christ appeared to them. Then their beliefs were so strong, they became martyrs. It also said Christ appeared to his number one enemy, Saul, and that led to Saul's transformation to Paul and one of the key writers of the Bible. There are arguments against the resurrection. Here's one. It essentially says the resurrection accounts are based on hearsay and contradictory reports in the Bible. Another one reports that Biblical accounts are unreliable and factually incorrect. Posted by Steve E. Swenson 41 comments from 15 users
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posted by
randomfactor
on Apr 4, 2007 at 12:09 PM
posted by
robbwillis
on Apr 4, 2007 at 12:41 PM
posted by
nooneisabovethelaw
on Apr 4, 2007 at 12:53 PM
posted by
anonymous
on Apr 4, 2007 at 12:55 PM
"The question presupposes you believe in Jesus and he was both God and man" - so Randomfactor's answer isn't valid. absolutely yes, I'm a believer. If it turns out in the end that it's all a sham and isn't true, then I don't really think it matters too much, other than perhaps losing a little time and money that I've given to the church in my lifetime, but in the process I've learned a lot and met a lot of great people (including my wife), so it's not all bad. But if it does turn out to be true, those that don't believe will be much worse off in the long run (i.e. eternity), then what I may have lost being a believer (in the relatively short run) during my lifetime. So being a believer is win (if its false)/win (if its true). Being a non-believer is a win (if its false) / lose (if its true). I think I'll take the win/win scenario. Many say that Jesus was a good teacher, a good man, but not God. I'm not quite sure how to resolve that. If someone went around today claiming to be God, I'm not sure we'd necessarily call him a good man, or good teacher. Jesus was either a liar (what he claimed to be was false and he knew it), a lunatic (what he claimed to be was false and he didn't know it), or he was telling the truth. If he was a liar or lunatic, what makes that a good man or good teacher? If his disciples all knew that it was a lie, why would they all die (and most of them pretty viciously) for a lie? Perhaps it was just for to get in the papers for their 15 minutes of fame. posted by
buffoo
on Apr 4, 2007 at 01:07 PM
The Nicene Creed as witnessed and taught by the Apostles, Saints, Martyrs, Monastics, Laity, and all Christian at all time. I Believe in one God, The Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible; And in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God; the Only-begotten, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light , true God of true God; begotten, not made; being one essence with the Father; who for us men and our salvation, came down from the Heaven's, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man; And was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, suffered and was buried; And arose on the third day according to the scriptures; And ascended into the Heaven's and sitteth at the right hand of the Father; And shall come again , with glory, to judge both living and the dead; Whose Kingdom shall have no end: And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord , the Giver of life; Who proceedeth from the Father; Who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified; Who spake by the Prophets; In One, Holy, Universal, and Apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the remission of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, And the life of the age to come. Amen posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Apr 4, 2007 at 01:08 PM
"Many say that Jesus was a good teacher, a good man, but not God. I'm not quite sure how to resolve that. If someone went around today claiming to be God, I'm not sure we'd necessarily call him a good man, or good teacher" Ah, the Josh McDowell false "trilemma." You're talking to an ex-bornagain: me. :-) Jesus likely never claimed to be God. Some words dubiously attributed to him in Revelation, though, could be construed that way. But then, you don't believe that every claim ever attributed to someone was actually made by that someone, do you? "If his disciples all knew that it was a lie, why would they all die (and most of them pretty viciously) for a lie? " I'll see you a People's Temple and a Heaven's Gate -- not to mention a whole passel of radical Islamic martyrs that we're to be worrying about. The "trilemma" omits the most likely scenario: much of what is attributed to Jesus is urban legend from the time. If you're interested, I'll give you an example of a legend that developed in the present day -- one related to this, in fact -- that has shown itself to be most likely false, but that doesn't stop the people who want to believe it anyway.
posted by
blognroll
on Apr 4, 2007 at 01:09 PM
As the song goes, "Because he lives I can face tomorrow." Yes, I believe he died for our sins, and rose again. It sounds too good to be true, but, then again, some things are too good, and too beautiful to be false. BTW, Jesus died for doubters. The Stumbling Follower and the Doubting Believer posted by
redkernhero
on Apr 4, 2007 at 01:13 PM
That is what I tell people when they ask for help, sing the hymn" Tell your troubles to Jesus".
posted by
woofwoof
on Apr 4, 2007 at 01:15 PM
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Apr 4, 2007 at 01:22 PM
I think the resurrection story is a legend, a fantasy that never happened. Don't need to speculate that he wasn't really dead, if the alleged resurrection never happened. I have some good reasons, that need some length to explain, but to make it brief, but the parts of the Gospel that deal with Jesus' leading and teaching, are fairly down to earth. But the stories of the resurrection (and the birth, BTW), are laden with a lot more -- what I would call -- fantasy creatures like angels and such. Funny how the angels aren't taking such conspicuous roles during Jesus' ordinary teaching years. It's strange also how Jesus' mother is called "Mary" only once during the accounts of the adult Jesus. Otherwise, she is simply referred to as the mother of Jesus -- even though these same scenes include other women named Mary. There are other little ambiguities, such as whether James is or is not the brother of Jesus. And who is this Joses guy? A little mix-up, perhaps? Hmmm.
posted by
blognroll
on Apr 4, 2007 at 01:31 PM
People who give the impression that they have it all together and that they never doubt the miracles of the Bible actually stand in the way of miracles happening. They are not being real. Those who doubt are the real believers because those who doubt, more earnestly seek for the truth, and when they find it, they know in their hearts that it's real, not just religion's "talking points" talking. I know that the miracles of the Bible, including the resurrection, are real because of the miracle God is creating in my heart. It takes a miracle for my heart to convince my doubting mind that Jesus is alive. My faith is still growing. It is still weak, and it is not a faith bereft of even the deepest and darkest of doubts. posted by
steveeswenson
on Apr 4, 2007 at 01:53 PM
I'll send you an e-mail from eternalsalvation.org. It will include a full description including how smoothe the greens are. posted by
robbwillis
on Apr 4, 2007 at 02:06 PM
Steve, Looking forward to that. Good to know someone is willing to put it on the line. Previously, only Dallas from the old blogs had the nerve. The Pax types will only say nobody knows, but it's (use your Billy Chrystal voice here) "absolutely fabulous."
No golf would be hell. posted by
randomfactor
on Apr 4, 2007 at 02:11 PM
Steve, you recall the old joke about the two golfers who made the same agreement? First one to get to Heaven would come back and let the other one know if there's golfing up there. Well, Sam dies first and a week later appears before his old buddy. "Good news and bad news, Bob. There *IS* golf in heaven--beautiful courses, incredible weather, angelic caddies who know just which club to hand you. "The bad news is...you've got a 9 am tee-time next Thursday." posted by
randomfactor
on Apr 4, 2007 at 02:11 PM
posted by
steveeswenson
on Apr 4, 2007 at 02:17 PM
posted by
blognroll
on Apr 4, 2007 at 02:29 PM
posted by
antiextremism
on Apr 4, 2007 at 03:09 PM
Probably not, but the 2004 Red Sox were definitely raised from the dead in the ALCS against the Yanks! And they were dead longer than Jesus!
posted by
blognroll
on Apr 4, 2007 at 03:28 PM
posted by
dusty1215
on Apr 4, 2007 at 03:30 PM
posted by
dusty1215
on Apr 4, 2007 at 03:34 PM
posted by
randomfactor
on Apr 4, 2007 at 03:36 PM
posted by
dusty1215
on Apr 4, 2007 at 03:38 PM
posted by
dusty1215
on Apr 4, 2007 at 03:42 PM
posted by
blognroll
on Apr 4, 2007 at 04:24 PM
posted by
dusty1215
on Apr 4, 2007 at 04:29 PM
posted by
paxchristi3
on Apr 5, 2007 at 01:12 AM
What if all that Christ and his disciples taught turned out to be true? What lame excuses would be given on Judgment Day by those who doubted them? Would they expect to hear the Father to say, "Well done, my faithful servant, enter into the joy of your master's house," and receive a key for one of the McMansions in the sky? Sure, God has an ocean of mercy for those who repent, but those who don't very well could receive the fig tree treatment as described in Matt 21:19. posted by
paxchristi3
on Apr 5, 2007 at 01:16 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Apr 5, 2007 at 07:44 AM
posted by
NancyII
on Apr 5, 2007 at 07:46 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Apr 5, 2007 at 07:48 AM
posted by
robbwillis
on Apr 5, 2007 at 08:30 AM
"Only Christ is in position to let Robb in on what could be expected in the afterlife."
How convenient. One of the Bible's books ought to be Catch 22. posted by
randomfactor
on Apr 5, 2007 at 08:32 AM
posted by
antiextremism
on Apr 5, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Pax, you just described Peppertree golf course.
posted by
NancyII
on Apr 5, 2007 at 08:10 PM
RF..gotta agree with you there. If you don't have an early tee time in August you know what hell really feels like. My daughter and I walked the course on Cottonwood..can't remember the name...and by the time we were done I threatened her with bodily harm if she ever mentioned walking again. Thought I was gonna have the vapors. Ooops..off topic again. posted by
dusty1215
on Apr 5, 2007 at 08:16 PM
posted by
NancyII
on Apr 5, 2007 at 08:19 PM
posted by
paxchristi3
on Apr 8, 2007 at 09:12 PM
Anyway, to get back on topic (and Happy Easter, by the way!). I came across an article on the resurrection, which makes mention of the Josh McDowell whose article Steve referred to at the beginning. Here's a most telling paragraph: “The fundamental conviction in a scientific age with our post-enlightenment views is that these things didn’t happen,” said Barber. “People have determined that any source that talks about resurrection is unreliable and rule it out. What kind of science is that? You don’t just dispense with evidence that you don’t like. What kind of science is that, indeed. For the rest of the story: http://ncregister.com/site/... posted by
NancyII
on Apr 8, 2007 at 09:37 PM
posted by
paxchristi3
on Apr 8, 2007 at 10:42 PM
posted by
anonymous
on Apr 18, 2007 at 09:02 PM
It says in the Bible if there was no resurrection, then our hope is in vain.
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