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gube - > life is good -> Daughter for sale.........
Daughter for sale.........

  I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7.
In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

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posted by gube on Friday, June 6, 2008 at 01:57 PM
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posted by s810 on Jun 6, 2008 at 02:13 PM

Of course it depends on her age, but I wouldn't take any less than 500 shekels and 5 goats. 

But please be responsible and do not get too drunk before you sell her off (Genisis 19:31)

posted by RoyTullis on Jun 6, 2008 at 02:17 PM

Need more info.  Is she high maintenance?  Can she cook, sew, iron,  doe's she do windows? 


posted by witbee on Jun 6, 2008 at 02:59 PM

Get in a time machine and go back a few thousand years when that would have applied.

As for now, you're a pretty sick cookie to even joke about it. Move to Rwanda if you like that sort of thing.

posted by catpaw on Jun 6, 2008 at 03:13 PM

If the ante bellum period is any indication she could be worth anywhere from $500 to about $1,000 in 1850's dollars. It would depend on her age, her health, her physical stanima, her personality, her professional skills, her attractiveness, even the tone of her skin.

If you take her to Africa or the Mid East, her virginity and potential for child bearing would be at a premium and command at least twice the price of a common slave laborer.

Strangely, my teen daughter reminds me that she's a slave everytime I tell her to take out the trash or clean her room.

posted by gube on Jun 6, 2008 at 03:34 PM

I hope she doesn't read what you posted.

Why???

posted by gube on Jun 6, 2008 at 03:47 PM

witbee if it applied then why doesn't it apply now?

 

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 6, 2008 at 03:48 PM

Just when we think we've come a long way over the years... gube brings us crashing down to reality.


posted by witbee on Jun 6, 2008 at 03:50 PM

Old Testament Law vs New Testament.

Also the definition of slavery was very different. It is actually closer to indentured (sp) servant.

posted by sagefever on Jun 6, 2008 at 03:55 PM

Even if she is as pleasant as pie~ and I am sure she is~ she is a meanage girl. You should be asking how much you should pay me to take her. ;-)


posted by gube on Jun 6, 2008 at 04:01 PM

some people believe by the old testament.

posted by witbee on Jun 6, 2008 at 04:04 PM

They are called Jewish.

posted by gube on Jun 6, 2008 at 04:12 PM

OK then some Jews still believe in the old testament......I take it you ain't no Jew....

posted by antiextremism on Jun 6, 2008 at 04:19 PM

Besides, the Christian Bible does contain the Old Testament.

I think what Gube is pointing out is that many Christians are willing to say the Bible is literal when it parallels their beliefs, but it is allegorical when it does not. Can't have it both ways.

 

posted by msjenny on Jun 6, 2008 at 04:23 PM

sage: lol...   gube i thought u were funny

posted by sagefever on Jun 6, 2008 at 04:31 PM

;-) I thought Gube was funny myself and clearly the thematic bent(with the exception of post nasal drip) is lost on some.

 

posted by witterpitters on Jun 6, 2008 at 04:51 PM

When can you send her over - I have a cast on my arm & dust bunnies everywhere!!! If she works out, I'll send you a gas gift card!!!

BTW all.....................my daughter offered to GIVE away my youngest grandson!!! He's a hoot!!!!

posted by Tiffanilynn on Jun 6, 2008 at 04:52 PM

Lol Gube, my parents tried selling me when I was a teenager but the truth is... i was priceless!! LOL

posted by johnburnssucks on Jun 6, 2008 at 04:53 PM

Gube, make some poor slob work for you for seven years like Jacob had to. Then get him all likkered up and marry off the homely daughter first. He can marry the cute daughter shortly thereafter, but he gotsta promise to work for you for another seven years (make sure it's all notarized, etc.).

Be an evil taskmaster. Show no mercy.

posted by woofwoof on Jun 6, 2008 at 05:00 PM

Anti is right.  Can't have it both ways.  Either you follow the bible to the letter or you don't....what's it gonna be?

 

posted by jfrancais on Jun 6, 2008 at 05:03 PM

Look, woof. When it comes to criticizing a religion, only Islam's flaws can be pointed out as archaic and out of date.

posted by FloridaStateGrad on Jun 6, 2008 at 05:47 PM

Well, jfrancais, that really depends on your interpretation of the Christian Bible..

 

 

posted by jfrancais on Jun 6, 2008 at 05:59 PM

Isn't it all a matter of interpretation?

posted by gopherbro on Jun 6, 2008 at 06:12 PM

For those who are unfamiliar with it. Gubes question comes from an absolutely hilarious "Letter to Dr. Laura" from about 5 years ago. Here is the whole thing:

Dr. Laura Schlessinger is a radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a east coast resident, which was posted on the Internet. It's funny, as well as informative:

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted fan,
Jim

The part I like best is "Why can't I own Canadians?"

posted by jadedcynic on Jun 6, 2008 at 06:40 PM

I'm somewhat new to blogging, but I assumed that unless otherwise noted/credited, a person's comments are, for the most part, original to them. But seemingly, Gube wanted readers to think he thought of this question when in reality is was blatantly plagiarized...I know we're not in an on-line college class, but come on! The post would've been just as thought provoking if he had credited Dr. L, but now he'll live in the shadow of being called out by gopher.

posted by catpaw on Jun 6, 2008 at 09:36 PM

I've used quotes and admitted I don't recall the source. It's o.k. if someone doesn't think I'm too bright....but giving me credit for being smarter than I really am, those are scarey expectations I can't meet.

posted by gube on Jun 6, 2008 at 11:40 PM

jadedcynic ha ha I've been living in the shadows all my life.....get a life!

posted by dcs217 on Jun 7, 2008 at 01:24 AM

Hey Gube, if you read all of Ch. 21 you'll see that God is watching out for the welfare and dignity of the servants.

  Remember that God said, "I am the Lord your God,who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. You shall have no other Gods before Me."

 That's the first of the 10 commandments. He brought them OUT of slavery. HE is still bringing people out of bondage today  -  I can testify to that!

Servanthood is much different than the oppression of forced slavery.

 Back to the daughter: -Times were not so different back then. I'm sure that many young women longed to be "sold" to a hansome man or a rich man with sons. And if things didn't work out, she was to be redeemed by the family, not sold to foreigners. And not "set free" to be a vagabond adultress.   

 P.S.  Read Ex. 21:22,23   It's clear how God values life in the womb.

posted by AudreyB on Jun 7, 2008 at 06:51 AM

Hang on to her.  She will appreciate in value over time.

posted by TomW on Jun 7, 2008 at 08:07 AM

Jadedcynic, the letter wasn't from Dr. Laura.  It was an email chain letter mocking Dr. Laura.  There isn't anyone to credit.

Gopher, I think the Canadians part is my favorite too.

posted by gube on Jun 7, 2008 at 08:17 AM

Laura Schlessinger is a US radio personality who disperses advice to people who  call  in  to  her  radio show.  She stirred up controversy when she aired her remarks that as an observant Orthodox Jew,  homosexuality  is  an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned in any circumstances.

     The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a US resident which
made it's rounds on the internet....

Dear Dr. Laura,

     Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law.  I have learned a great deal from your show,  and  I  try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can.

     When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle,  for example,  I just simply remind them that
Leviticus 18:22
clearly  states  it  to be an abomination.
End of debate.

    I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them.

 
a)  When I burn a  bull  on the altar as a sacrifice,  I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord
Leviticus 1:19
.   The problem is my neighbors.   They claim the odor is not pleasing to them.  Should I smite them?

  b)
  I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7.
In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

  c)
  I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of  menstrual uncleanness Leviticus 15:19-24.   The problem is,  how do I tell?  I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

  d)  Leviticus 25:44
states  that  I  may  indeed  possess  slaves, both male and female,  provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.   A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians.  Can you clarify?  Why can't I own Canadians?

  e)
  I  have a  neighbor  who  insists  on  working  on the Sabbath.  Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put  to  death.  Am  I  morally  obligated  to  kill  him myself?

  f)
  A friend of mine feels that though eating shellfish is an abomination Leviticus 11:10,  it  is  a  lesser  abomination than homosexuality.  I don't agree.  Can you settle this?

  g)  Leviticus 21:20
states that I may  not  approach  the  altar  of God if I have a defect in my sight.  I have to admit that I wear reading glasses.   Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

  h)
  Most  of my male friends get their hair trimmed,  including  the  hair  around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden  by  Leviticus 19:27.  How should they die?

  i)
  I know from Leviticus 11:68 that touching the skin of a dead  pig  makes  me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

  j)
  My uncle has a farm.  He violates  Leviticus 19:19  by  planting  two different crops in the same field,  as does his  wife  by  wearing  garments  made  of  two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend).  He  also  tends  to  curse  and blaspheme a lot.  Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole  town  together  to  stone  them? Leviticus 24:10-16  Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? Leviticus 20:14

     I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan,    

posted by NancyII on Jun 7, 2008 at 08:20 AM

How much is a shekel?

posted by randomfactor on Jun 7, 2008 at 08:23 AM

About 30 cents at the current exchange rate.

posted by NancyII on Jun 7, 2008 at 08:31 AM

Well then there now...that doesn't sound like a whole lot for one strong healthy daughter.   Hmm..maybe it's the goats that would bring the price up.

posted by siouxcityranch on Jun 7, 2008 at 08:48 AM

Id trade him a slaughter pig but we ate the dam thing...

How bout 1 used western saddle... 3 sets or romal reins.. a set of spurs *one needin a new rowel* a brand new saddle blanket and horse hair headstall * horse not included*

We are willin to throw in her first spring foal providin shes not crossed with a high dollar lawyer or such thats willin to take care of us in our old age.

posted by gube on Jun 7, 2008 at 08:50 AM

lol

posted by CatherineBaker on Jun 7, 2008 at 08:55 AM

Awesome.  I clearly didn't read Leviticus closely enough.  Was it one of the "begat" books?  You know, Smezel begat Schmuckel begat Smackalot....?  That would explain my foggy memory.  Or was it the one that goes into minute detail what the temple should look like?  That one reads like stereo instructions.

And can I claim to be unclean all the time, or just seven days?  Can I pick which seven days?  That would help get my husband to stop bothering me.

posted by sagefever on Jun 7, 2008 at 09:02 AM

Cat~ I think you could claim 3 weeks out of the month,but all 4 might look fishy...that beget chapter is great for reading to fall asleep to.

 

posted by CatherineBaker on Jun 7, 2008 at 09:26 AM

LOL, Sage! 

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