Good job Atlanta.
By MARY LOU PICKEL
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/29/08
A proposal that would allow police to seize vehicles from illegal immigrants could help remove egregious drivers from the roads, some metro police say.
"I think it has the possibility of being a good thing," said DeKalb County Police Department spokesman Officer J.T. Ware. The seizure powers might be best used to focus on habitual traffic offenders, he said.
The proposed law, House Bill 978, was approved by the state House of representatives this week. It still must pass the senate. The measure would allow police to seize cars of illegal immigrants who are involved in accidents or violate traffic laws.
While the proposal stimulated debate on the House floor, including questions about how police could identify illegal immigrants during a traffic stop, the reality is that police already impound cars.
"It's really not going to change anything," said Gwinnett County Police Corporal Illana Spellman.
"If they don't have a valid license, the vehicle is going to be impounded anyway."
The usual procedure in DeKalb and Gwinnett counties is to arrest those found driving without a license rather than issue a ticket. As part of that arrest, the vehicle is often impounded because the officer can't leave it on the side of the road. In some cases, if a relative or friend has a valid driver's license, the officer allows that person to drive the car home.
Illegal immigrants cannot get a valid Georgia driver's license because they don't have the proper paperwork.
If the seizure bill were enacted into law, it's an open question how a police officer would identify a driver as an illegal immigrant.
Police say it would likely be up to the jail to determine.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement has officers in some jails who review jail records and determine which inmates are here illegally. That's the case in Gwinnett and DeKalb counties. Cobb County has a special program where every inmate's legal status is checked, no matter the charge.
Other jails don't have ICE officers, and it could take longer to determine legal status. For the system to work, jails and police would have to cooperate.
"You have to work out what the line of communication would be," said DeKalb County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Mikki Jones.
Frank Rotondo, executive director of the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police, opposes the legislation, saying it would make extra work for officers. In many cases there are hearings before property can be seized and there's lots of paperwork to fill out.
"It could be very time consuming," Rotondo said.
Add Idaho to the long list of states that are passing laws to fight illegal immigration.
Idaho-based pro-family activist Bryan Fischer is praising his state's legislature for taking a major step to curb illegal immigration in the Gem State. & amp; nbsp;
Fischer, executive director of the Idaho Family Alliance, is pleased that the legislature has overwhelmingly approved a bill that will prohibit illegal aliens from obtaining a valid driver's license in the state. Lawmakers in Boise, he feels, are taking a responsible approach.
"We see this as an important tool in controlling illegal immigration in Idaho. We don't have a huge problem with illegal immigration [here] yet," says Fischer. "But I think what our legislators are doing is trying to get out in front of the curve and trying to take some proactive steps now."
Fischer hopes the bill will send a message to the government of Mexico -- which is reportedly planning to open a consulate in Boise. "I think naturally it's a concern to people who live here in Idaho," he continues. "[It's a concern] that we would have an office that would be set up right in the center of the state ... [an office] which is really ultimately designed to facilitate illegal immigration."
And regarding the possibility of a Mexican consulate in the state's capital? "The options that we have to stop the establishment [of the consulate] are probably somewhat limited," Fisher admits. But if Idaho lawmakers can establish sound policies to control the number of illegal immigrants in the state, he says, there simply will not be enough to warrant the need for a consulate. "We hope that's going to be the eventual outcome," he adds.
Is leaving water a good idea?
I say no to leaving jugs of water for illegal immigrants to drink.They are braking the law and should not be awarded water for it. I am glad that the wildlife cops are issuing tickets for this criminal behavior. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Suleika Acosta, KOLD News 13 Reporter
Daniel Millis and volunteers from the group, No More Deaths, often leave jugs of water in the desert for illegal immigrants who are crossing.
"Migrants come by, they either pick it up and drink it and leave the bottle or they take it with them."
Last week the group found the body of a 14-year-old girl from El Salvador. Missing since January, Joseline was left behind by her group when she became too sick to continue.
"This is our home, we don't want people to die in our backyards."
But Daniel and other humanitarian workers were leaving water and picking up trash when officers with the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge told them they were breaking the law.
"We consider the action they did was littering so we're not going to authorize littering on the wildlife refuge," says Refuge Manager Sally Gall.
Officers gave Daniel a $175 citation and if he doesn't pay the ticket, he could face jail time and a hefty fine.
Gall says the water jugs are not the solution, but part of the problem.
"I understand that they are trying to help immigrants that are out there but by placing water jugs along the trail refuge, it is littering and we don't want to encourage littering. We have a tremendous problem with littering because of immigration problems."
Gall says immigrants leave several tons of trash in their path, a potential threat to the wildlife they are working to preserve. Another humanitarian organization maintains three water beacons for immigrants but Daniel says it's not enough.
He shows us the discarded jugs they've collected, among them Daniel finds a message from someone who chose to leave the litter behind, but for a different reason.
"We feel that this border policy is resulting in a lot of needless suffering and deaths in the desert and so we're going to continue with our humanitarian aide and efforts until there are no more deaths," adds Daniel.
Good this makes me happy. Hopefully the illegal is also arrested and deported on the spot.
By MARY LOU PICKEL
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/28/08
A bill that would allow police to seize cars from illegal immigrants was approved by the House Thursday.
Bill sponsor Rep. James Mills (R-Gainesville) repeatedly told House members Thursday the measure would protect Georgia citizens from the "epidemic" of illegal immigration. "The state of Georgia's door is being kicked down," Mills said. Immigrants are coming from "Iraq, Iran, Irania, Jordan. We don't know where they're from," Mills said.
The measure passed 104 to 51, and will move to the Senate for consideration.
The bill would allow police to seize any vehicle involved in a traffic violation or accident if it's driven by an illegal immigrant. That includes rented and leased vehicles if the owner knew, or should have known, the driver was an illegal immigrant. It also includes bank-owned cars if the interest-holder actually knew the driver was an illegal immigrant.
The bill prompted a healthy floor debate. Some legislators asked how police would be able to determine whether a driver was an illegal immigrant during a traffic stop. Some wondered if it would create an atmosphere for racial profiling of drivers who police think might be illegal immigrants. Rep. Bob Lane (R-Statesboro), who represents rural south Georgia, worried farmers would lose their vehicles if they lent them to workers who might be illegal.
"Would you have to go down to the police station and say, 'I didn't know this person was an illegal immigrant, and I lent him the car to go down to the store to get some grass seed?'" Lane asked.
The vehicle seizure would work much the same way as property seizures in drug cases. But under the bill, if the owner of the vehicle presents a sworn affidavit that he or she did not know the driver was an illegal immigrant, they would get their car back, Mills said.
The legislation is part of a package of about 10 Republican proposals introduced this legislative session aimed at discouraging illegal immigration in Georgia.
Illegal immigrant gang piece of crap arrested.

Officers detained eleven illegal immigrants following an intense SWAT operation at a Charlotte home early Wednesday morning.
Police went to the house to serve a warrant on Rafael Wilfredo Rivas for allegedly altering the title of a vehicle.
Officers received information that he may have been a member of the ruthless MS-13 gang and that there were possibly guns inside the two-story home.
When SWAT officers entered the home, they were greeted by gunfire.
According to police, Rivas' brother fired at cops. Bullet fragments struck one of the officers, but he was not injured.
Police shot the alleged gunman and he is in critical condition.
Cops removed twelve other people from the home for questioning. All but one are in the county illegally including Rafael Rivas.
WBTV's Rob Tufano has more details in this report. Press "PLAY" to see this story.
I just read a post by Nancy that ended with''MY LIFE IS SO SAD''and it got me thinking.........
OK I know why I have all the time in the world to blog. I am recovering from several surgeries. I have been off work for 10 months. prior to that I had never Bloged nor did I know what blogging was. Now i'm addicted to blogging. I go back to work soon and well probably suffer with-drawls. Anyway other blogger have made comments to me that I must be a lonely man or that my life must be really sad to post and argue the stuff I do.
Well when I read those statements I always laugh and if my wife is around I'll read her the comment and we both laugh and agree if you only knew how lonely and sad I am you would probably feel sorry for me.
God I cant wait to get back to work. It is not good for a man not to work. It makes him kinda whacko, at least it does me.
My question is there are several people that poat on here all the time. Do you work? do you blog from work? Are you addicted to blogging?Do you feel that you to have a sad life?
225 illegals arrested with deportation papers to 12 countries.
Yeah way to go.........arrest more....arrest more......Deport more.
Associated Press
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CHICAGO (AP) — Federal immigration officials say they have arrested 225 illegal immigrants with outstanding deportation orders as part of a six-state operation.
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement conducted the four-day operation in Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Wisconsin and Missouri through Monday.
The individuals arrested had outstanding deportation orders to 12 countries including Mexico, Cuba, Guatemala, India and Poland.
A Homeland Security assistant secretary for ICE says the multistate effort is intended to send a strong message to individuals who disregard the law.
The arrests were part of the Fugitive Operations Program, which was started in 2003.
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What a bunch of crap. If they are here illegaly then they should be reported and deported
Hispanics want Dane County to end its 30-year-old policy of telling the feds about the illegal immigrants they book into jail.
More than 100 people attended a public hearing in Madison Monday night to protest the practice.
Concerns were raised after the number of jail inmates held for questioning by federal immigration authorities rose to 12 last November, and 20 last October.
Normally, it’s only about 6 per month.
Dane County Sheriff Dave Mahoney says it’s good public policy for different areas of law enforcement to work together.
Civil rights advocates say people risk being deported for as little as driving without a license.
Janet Parker of the Wisconsin Network for Peace and Justice says it discourages folks from cooperating with the police or even ask for their help when they need it.
Mahoney assured the crowd his deputies never deny emergency help to anyone, regardless of their backgrounds.
Comprehensive anti-illegal immigration bill passes Senate
February 25th, 2008 @ 5:45pm
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The Utah Senate has passed a comprehensive immigration bill: one that has been the subject of multiple protests. The bill calls for sweeping changes to the way undocumented workers are handled in the workforce and by law enforcement.
The bill that passed was a "kinder" version of the original, and it does not take effect until July of 2009--to give lawmakers more time to study immigration.
The original bill was patterned after an Oklahoma law. A lot of people here were worried about unintended consequences from the legislation.
Sen. Bill Hickman of St. George has made multiple revisions to Senate Bill 81. Those revisions boiled down to concerns about harsh penalties for employers or churches who may not know someone is here illegally.
Those who oppose the bill are passionate about a lot of issues. "There will be racial profiling. There will be discrimination that results from these things, from the passage of this bill, and I don't mean only those that may be here in an undocumented status," said Sen. Ross Romero.
Sen. Pat Jones said, "I'm wanting some reassurance that this legislation will not result in the same kind of detrimental effects to Utah's economy, if, in fact, it passes."
"What's more important to us the rule of law or some unmeasured impact to our economy? And I would hasten to say, in my opinion, that this society is based on the rule of law," Hickman said.
The bill passed the Senate by a vast majority. Most lawmakers this year have said that they've gotten overwhelming amounts of e-mail demanding something be done about immigration.
Meanwhile, members of the Latino community gathered at the Capitol today to protest this and other anti-illegal immigration bills. "We've been coming up to the Capitol since the legislative session started, and we've been continually frustrated by the bills that keep passing," said student activist Valery Pozo
Pozo says this silent protest symbolizes how frozen the state will become if SB81 and HB241 pass. She says lawmakers haven't thought them through. "I think they're being really blind to the fact that we need these immigrants."
Pozo says neighboring states with tougher immigration laws have trouble finding laborers.
Proyecto Latino de Utah also released a statement this afternoon responding to the passage of SB81. The statement says the response to the passage of the bill is "'mixed' or 'bad news ... good news'" among some Latino community members.
The statement also reads, "Having a January of 2009 date will allow all of us (legislators and citizens) to call on the U.S. Congress and the new president-elect to take action on this important issue affecting our communities nationwide."
Tony Yapias, director of Proyecto Latino de Utah, said, "We will wait and see the final bill as it awaits passage in the House of Representatives to determine the actions the community will take."
Good they need to be arrested and put in the system.Coming or going their still illegal and they still need to be held accountable.
Public defender: 'They are on their way home. ... It's not cost-effective'
The Associated Press
HOUSTON – Public defenders in Houston are criticizing the recent arrests of illegal immigrants who were pulled out of airplane lines when attempting to fly home to their native countries.
Since July, at least five people have been arrested at Houston's Bush Intercontinental Airport while trying to board planes headed to Mexico, Honduras or El Salvador, according to Customs and Border Protection officials. All had been deported previously.
Federal public defenders who take on these cases call the practice a waste of time and money.
"What's silly about this is that they are on their way home," said Houston federal public defender Marjorie Meyers. "They have gotten the message that they shouldn't be here. It's not cost-effective."
U.S. Attorney Don DeGabrielle defended the practice, saying that if authorities allowed illegal immigrants to leave without punishment, it would minimize government efforts to control the border.
He also described the five defendants as repeat violators of U.S. immigration laws.
"We feel it's definitely worth the resources to hold these people accountable," he said.
Airline passenger lists are routinely checked to find people who have broken the law, said U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokeswoman Kelly Klundt.
But assistant federal public defender Michael Herman said authorities shouldn't bother with the time and expense of prosecuting someone who is already leaving the country.
"They are self-deporting," Mr. Herman said, "but they wind up in shackles and chains when these people have ... heeded the cry of the public for them to leave."
The Associated Press
12:00 AM CST on Tuesday, February 26, 2008
Mums the word aint going to help these illegals if Sheriff Joe Arpaio has his say.
February 25th, 2008 @ 6:50am
by Mike Sauceda/KTAR
At least three community groups are advising illegal immigrants to keep silent when they are questioned about their citizenship status.
The meetings come as Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and Phoenix Police crack down on asking suspects about their immigration status when they are stopped.
The groups have held forums and advised immigrants they can avoid deportation by not saying anything.
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said that tactic is not going to work.
``If they don't want to answer and they have violated the law, they're going directly to jail and then we will investigate them in the jail to see if they are illegal," Arpaio said on News/Radio 92-3 KTAR's Jay Lawrence Show.
Arpaio added, ``There's been talk on Hispanic shows -- to not cooperate, to not talk to my deputies -- but you know what? We locked up 40 more illegal immigrants in the last 10 days, so we're still able to do our job."
The immigrants' rights groups holding the meetings say they are not trying to teach illegal immigrants how to break the law.
State by State Americans are slowly taking back America from illegals that don't belong here.
Associated Press - February 25, 2008 8:45 PM ET
CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) - The House passed a bill today (Monday) that would prohibit illegal immigrants in Wyoming from receiving state services such as welfare, public housing and organ-transplant assistance.
House Bill 145 would require residents to present drivers licenses, passports or social security cards to receive most state services.
Under the bill, illegal immigrants would still have access to emergency medical services, short-term shelter, crisis counseling and immunizations.
The bill now heads to the Senate for consideration.
Supporters say the measure has wide support. Opponents say the bill is divisive and exceeds state jurisdiction.
The House rejected the introduction of another bill this session that would have made it a felony to harbor and transport illegal immigrants.
This action against criminal illegal aliens warms my heart.
Police target illegal immigrants
Escondido department is going after criminals who have been deported and return to the city
By Elliot Spagat
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Article Launched: 02/23/2008 03:05:12 AM PST
SAN DIEGO -- Police in the city of Escondido are taking the federal immigration law into their own hands.
Unlike dozens of cities, counties and states across the nation whose officers have been trained by the federal government to enforce immigration laws, Escondido police are not seeking federal approval before picking up criminals who are in the country illegally.
This week, police officers began tracking down the 90 or so illegal immigrants in Escondido believed to have been previously deported after committing crimes in the U.S.
In a three-day sting that ended Friday, they found 14 -- including one who was arrested on charges of rape, assault with a deadly weapon, robbery, domestic violence and driving under the influence, Officer Russ Whitaker said. Some were picked up at home, others in public areas.
Officers are not arresting illegal immigrants without criminal histories and are only targeting people who were previously deported after committing a crime in the U.S., said Escondido police spokesman Lt. Bob Benton.
"Our whole philosophy is to get criminals off the streets," Benton said. "We see these people get deported; they come back. They get arrested again, they come back again. This is our opportunity to get them formally deported again."
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement did not help execute the sting and does not comment on "internal policies" of local police, spokeswoman Lauren Mack said.
"It's a very unique approach," Mack said
\"We have no say in it."
However, the agency did review Escondido's suspect list and confirmed who had been previously deported. Immigration and Customs Enforcement also would handle any further deportations of suspects.
Michael Wishnie, a Yale Law School professor, said Escondido's crackdown is unusual but appears legal. Congress made limited exceptions for local police to enforce immigration laws without federal training and authorization -- one such exception is for suspects who were previously deported after committing crimes in the U.S., he said.
Whitaker, a Spanish-speaking bicycle patrol officer who grew up in Escondido, compiled the suspect list on his own. He grew frustrated seeing illegal immigrants commit crimes, get deported and then return to Escondido.
One man, whom Whitaker had arrested several times, was convicted on a weapons charge and had been deported six or seven times.
"He just keeps coming back," said Whitaker, who caught up with the man again this week. "Today, he said he's done with Escondido because I keep getting him."
Escondido police say suspects freely acknowledge being in the country illegally. Whitaker says people he arrests on his patrol volunteer details like how much they paid a smuggler and how long it took them to trek across the border.
"It's pretty amazing," Whitaker said. "They say they're here illegally. They're not really scared of us."
Whitaker says he remembers one gang member, who was charged with auto theft, domestic violence and battery. He returned to Escondido after getting deported.
"I know he's here illegally in the country, and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it," he said. "Now, we can get rid of him on sight. We don't have to wait for him to commit a crime to deport him."
This isn't the first time Escondido has waded into immigration enforcement. In 2006, the city abandoned an ordinance that would have punished landlords who rented to illegal immigrants after discovering that legal bills could top $1 million. By the time the City Council agreed to settle a lawsuit challenging the ordinance, it had spent $200,000
First it was Arizona then it was Tennessee and now New Jersey will try and pass legislation that will suspend the business licenses of business that hire illegal immigrants. Yes this is cool. LOOK OUT ILLEGALS you can't work here no more.
Bill would suspend licenses for hiring illegal immigrants
By DANIEL WALSH Staff Writer, 856-649-2074
Published: Tuesday, February 19, 2008
State Senate Majority Leader Steve Sweeney has called for a law punishing business owners who knowingly hire and employ illegal immigrants.
Sweeney's proposal would suspend for 10 days the license of a business owner caught employing illegal immigrants. A second infraction would result in a permanent suspension, Sweeney said Monday.
"I just don't understand why there's an acceptance of people being here illegally," said Sweeney, D-Gloucester, Cumberland, Salem.
Sweeney plans to formally introduce the legislation Thursday. He said he decided to do so once a federal judge upheld a similar law proposed in Arizona, which Sweeney plans to use as a model.
Should his legislation pass, it could make New Jersey the third state to have such a law, following Arizona and Oklahoma.
Many business and Hispanic organizations have opposed such measures.
"I think it's going to hurt a lot of businesses," said Ramon Hernandez, a Bridgeton resident and president of the Mexican-American Association of Southern New Jersey. "(Immigrants) buy food. They buy clothes. They pay rent. They pay taxes in doing that."
New Jersey Business & Industry Association Vice President John Rogers said matters could be complicated because federal law prohibits employers from asking certain questions about employees' backgrounds, but requires them to accept Social Security cards that appear legitimate.
"I fear that another New Jersey-only bill will unfairly ask the employer community to shoulder increased liability and be responsible for what is a national problem," Rogers said.
That assessment appears to be common in business sectors, even among those who don't yet know the particulars of the bill.
"The issue is best dealt with at the federal level," said Pete Furey, executive director of the New Jersey Farm Bureau.
Sweeney said the call for tighter laws has come from the local level. His district includes Bridgeton, Cumberland County, which is believed to have a large population of illegal immigrants.
Last year, Assemblyman Doug Fisher, who represents the same district as Sweeney, championed a new law that closed a legal loophole that made it easier for illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses in Pennsylvania or other states. He did so in large part because of the situation in Bridgeton, where authorities believe illegal immigrants are largely responsible for a spike in hit-and-run accidents in recent years.
"Look at Bridgeton," Sweeney said. "They were becoming overrun and it was becoming a lawless society. People were begging us to do something."
In the Arizona case, business groups argued the law unconstitutionally infringed on federal immigration powers, but the judge ruled there was no conflict because states regulate business licensing.
The Arizona law took effect Jan. 1. A similar Oklahoma law takes effect in July.
Earlier rulings on similar laws had mixed results, however.
In July, a federal judge struck down a Hazleton, Pa., ordinance that would deny business permits for companies that employ illegal immigrants, but another judge upheld a similar measure in Valley Park, Mo., earlier this month. In Riverside, the town government last year revoked its own law cracking down on illegal immigrants after the town's huge Brazilian population left almost en masse, prompting several business closings, in response to such restrictions.

I totally agree with this guys story.
Irresponsible illegal immigrants
Article Last Updated: 02/18/2008 09:50:45 AM MST
After the immigration raid in Lindon at Universal Industrial Sales Inc., the wife of one of the arrested employees tried to gain sympathy by showing on Fox News a picture of their child. I don't have a lot of sympathy for undocumented people who break the law, then cry that they have families when they knew exactly what they were doing and the potential consequences.
It is extremely irresponsible to illegally cross into a foreign country, work illegally and set down roots by having babies when you know that at any time you could be deported with or without your family. If you're raising a family in which the children may be legal because they were born on American soil, and you are not, what kind of values are the children going to grow up with? That situation infantilizes the parents. We have enough adult children having children.
It's especially annoying when poor people have children and can't afford health care, food and clothing, so they jump on the welfare wagon and get handouts from churches. If you can't afford to have children and raise them properly, you shouldn't have them. Why should society raise them for you?
John Bigler
Salt Lake City
Its bills like this that tells me that there is still hope for America. Anti illegal immigration laws are going into effect all over this great country. The Vast majority of Americans want something done about all these illegals. I hope and pray that California also enacts similar laws targeting Illegals.
Bill would let police seize vehicles driven by illegal immigrants
If bill was passed, police could take vehicle if it was involved in a traffic accident and driven by an illegal immigrant
By MARY LOU PICKEL
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/18/08
A proposal to allow police to seize cars from illegal immigrants prompted an emotional public hearing before a legislative committee Monday.
The bill, sponsored by Rep. James Mills (R-Gainesville), would allow police to seize any vehicle involved in a traffic violation or accident if it's driven by an illegal immigrant. That includes rented and leased vehicles if the owner should have known the driver was an illegal immigrant.
Stacey Malegni, a Cherokee County woman, spoke in favor of the bill, recounting through her tears the loss of her 5-year-old son and mother-in-law in a car accident in 2004. An 18-year-old illegal Mexican immigrant with no license plowed into the car Malegni's mother-in-law was driving.
Malegni argued the bill should be passed for safety reasons.
"I'm putting the memory of my son in your hands," Malegni told the House Special Rules Committee.
Other witnesses agreed, arguing that people can't violate traffic laws repeatedly if they don't have a car.
A spokeswoman for the American Civil Liberties Union opposed the bill, saying it would create an atmosphere of "seize first and ask questions later." It could also create an atmosphere for racial profiling in traffic stops, the spokesman said.
The racial profiling argument drew a strong denial from committee chairman Calvin Hill (R-Woodstock), who asked witnesses to stay on point. "I don't want misinterpretation . . . that this is about racial profiling," Hill said.
Opponents say the measure is unconstitutional because it doesn't provide due process for taking the car. Under the proposal, the vehicle seizure would work similar to property seizure in drug cases.
"This legislation is opening up a slippery slope to where the state is taking private property," said Jerry Gonzalez, executive director of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials. "Where do we stop? Next, should we take their homes, their businesses? If there's an immigration raid in a poultry plant, should we seize that?" Gonzalez asked.
Opponents say it would be difficult for a police officer to correctly ascertain a driver's legal status during a traffic stop.
The legislation is part of a package of proposals introduced this legislative session aimed at punishing illegal immigration in Georgia.

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For the sake of immigrants (legal or illegal) and native-born Americans alike, it’s time to decide what our immigration policy is—and enforce it.
What do you think our policy should be?
What do you think would be the best way to ''fix'' illegal immigration?
Stupid people amaze me. All to often after a cop involved shooting these bleeding hearts come out of the wood work to accuse the police of obsessive force or murder. What a bunch of crap. I am not the smartest person in Kern County but I am smart enough to know if a cop tells you to stop, you stop. If he tells you to drop your gun, you drop your gun. If the police tells you to lie on the ground you lie on the ground. I don't understand why you wouldn't follow their instructions. That is unless you a gang-banging thug or just plain stupid. This is Kern County and If you don't comply to the cops orders then you get shot. Its simple math. And one more thing if you want to attack the cops for shooting a criminal then why don't you pick one worth supporting not a drug dealing convict worthless piece of crap.
Good job BPD
"Hillary Clinton continually reminds voters that she has been tested. Which makes sense. You never know what Bill might have brought home." --Jay Leno
President Bush said today he has nothing but respect for Mexico and its people and he will always speak the truth to them. Here's my question: When can we get that deal?" --Jay Leno
To all you supporters of illegal immigration who think that Illegal immigrants are law abiding people, Think again.
under: Crime, Identity Theft, Illegal Immigration — utahrattler @ 8:41 am
Quick blurb today. A few days ago, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) raided a Lindon manufacturer (Universal Industrial Sales) that makes signs and guardrails for roads/highways.
The raid captured over 50 illegal immigrants and, as usual, charges regarding identity theft and document fraud are rolling in:
“I think it is safe to say anytime we find illegal aliens working some place there’s document fraud involved. Unfortunately, fraudulent documents are very easy to get a hold of, and so that’s something we’ll be looking into as we do the processing,” Counts said.
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Customs officers have forwarded 30 cases to the Utah County attorney’s office for possible criminal prosecution. A handful of cases have been sent to the U.S. attorney in Utah because the individuals had previously been deported from the United States.
While it is nice that the identity theft/document fraud involved is being addressed, sweeter yet is that the company and human resources director may also get hit as they appear to be extensively involved:
The U.S. Attorney’s Office charged Universal Industrial Sales with ten counts of “concealing, harboring, or shielding undocumented workers from detection for commercial advantage.” They could be fined up to $500,000 for each count.
“The foreman from this place was from there and this was like a magnate [U.I.S.] for all the people over there,” said Villalpando. “A lot of people from Mexico hear about this company down there and they say, ‘well, lets go, they don’t care about papers. They hire us anyways. That’s what they were doing for years until now.” [emphasis added]
The company’s Human Resource Director, 39-year-old Provo resident, Alejandro “Alex” Urrutia-Garcia, a naturalized U.S. citizen, was also arrested. He faces two counts of “encouraging or inducing illegal aliens to remain in the United States unlawfully.” He could spend up to 20 years in prison if convicted.
While UIS had a reputation for not verifying documents etc, another interesting point is brought up in the article. Apparently, the company did start checking paperwork (maybe UIS was tipped off and wanted to throw off some attention?) but in doing so, dug themselves deeper by, apparently, not taking action against those with forged/invalid paperwork and/or essentially indicating they knew they were in trouble and quickly did ’something’ to, hopefully, divert attention (from the first, KSL link):
“Three or four months ago they were checking papers on everybody, but they never fired anybody that was already there. They should have done that and we wouldn’t be going through this situation right now,” [A former employee] said.
I was unable to determine if UIS has extensive sales in Utah. It appears they supply distributors but do show several of their structures in Utah on their website. Even if they are a big supplier, don’t count on the State or Governor caring about the identity theft as long as the result is a lower bid.
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Lack of evidence cited in sparing man third strike on theft charge. Robert Fassbender got lucky when his third strike case was dismissed due to lack of evidence. The Tehachapi man has a long history of run ins with the law. I sure hope that he See's the dropped chargers as a gift. This man should be thanking his lucky stars. Fassbender 51 years old probably would have died in prison if he was convicted on the third strike. This man is being given a second chance at life. I hope that he doesn't take it for granted. Good luck Robert and don't blow this last chance.
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LIFETIME SAVINGS OF SOCIAL SECURITY FUNDS TO YOU
TO MAKE UP FOR ''YOUR'' LOSSES.
If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone,
then YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
When will AMERICAN'S STOP giving away THEIR RIGHTS???
We've gone so far the other way ... bent over backwards not to
offend anyone. But it seems no one cares about the AMERICAN
that's being offended!
WAKE UP America !!!
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I have a plan to destroy America by Richard Lamm
I have a secret plan to destroy America. If you believe, as many do, that America is too smug, too white bread, too self-satisfied, too rich, let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. History shows that nations are more fragile than their citizens think. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and they all fall, and that “an autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.” Here is my plan:
1. We must first make America a bilingual-bicultural country. History shows, in my opinion, that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. One scholar, Seymour Martin Lipset, put it this way: “The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with its Basques, Bretons and Corsicans.”
2. I would then invent “multiculturalism” and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal: that there are no cultural differences that are important. I would declare it an article of faith that the black and Hispanic dropout rate is only due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out-of-bounds.
3. We can make the United States a “Hispanic Quebec” without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently, “The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved, not by tolerance, but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically, and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.” I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with a salad bowl metaphor. It is important to insure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences, rather than Americans emphasizing their similarities.
4. Having done all this, I would make our fastest-growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50 percent dropout rate from school.
5. I would then get the big foundations and big business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of victimology. I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was all the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.
6. I would establish dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would “celebrate diversity.” “Diversity” is a wonderfully seductive word. It stresses differences rather than commonalities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other–that is, when they are not killing each other. A “diverse,” peaceful or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together, and we can take advantage of this myopia.
Look at the ancient Greeks. Dorf’s “World History” tells us: “The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games in honor of Zeus, and all Greeks venerated the shrine of Apollo at Delphi. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet, all of these bonds together were not strong enough to overcome two factors … (local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions …)” If we can put the emphasis on the “pluribus,” instead of the “unum,” we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.
7. Then I would place all these subjects off-limits–make it taboo to talk about. I would find a word similar to “heretic” in the 16th century that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like “racist”, “xenophobe” halt argument and conversation. Having made America a bilingual-bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of “victimology,” I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra –”because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good.” I would make every individual immigrant sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact.
8. Lastly, I would censor Victor Davis Hanson’s book “Mexifornia” –this book is dangerous; it exposes my plan to destroy America. So please, please–if you feel that America deserves to be destroyed–please, please–don’t buy this book! This guy is on to my plan.
''This country has lost control of it's borders. And no country can sustain that kind os position''
Ronald Reagan
I like some of Obama's ideas on illegal immigration. Non of the 3 remaining Presidential candidates have a tough stance on illegal immigration. I am trying to figure out who will do the most at fighting illegal immigration. I do not support an all out Amnesty for all illegals. I feel that there must be a consequence and deterrent for braking the law. I feel that a all out Amnesty would encourage more illegal immigration. I also understand that mass deportation ain't going to happen at least any time soon. Obama wants illegals to pay a fine and any back taxes owed. Learn English(I really like this) and a back ground check. The article below better explains his position on illegal immigration.
Who do you think will be the most effective on illegal immigration?
Senator Obama shares the growing public concern about illegal immigration in the United States. The challenge facing President Bush and Congress is how to effectively stop the flow of illegal immigrants across our borders, better manage immigration flows going forward, and deal with illegal aliens who are already living and working in this country.
The Department of Homeland Security recognizes that identifying and deporting the 11 million undocumented workers currently in this country would be both logistically impossible and highly disruptive to the American economy. Instead of mass deportations, Senator Obama believes that Congress must pass comprehensive, compassionate reform that reaffirms the rule of law and brings the undocumented population out of hiding.
The Senate Immigration Bill
Senator Obama played a key role in the crafting of the immigration reform bill that the Senate passed before the 109th Congress adjourned. The bill, which President Bush supports, would provide more funds and technology for border security and prevent employers from skirting our laws by hiring illegal immigrants. The bill also would provide immigrants who are now contributing, responsible members of society an opportunity to remain in the country and earn citizenship. But not all illegal immigrants would be guaranteed the right to remain in the U.S. under this proposal: they would first have to pay a substantial fine and back taxes, learn English, satisfy a work requirement, and pass a criminal background check.
Senator Obama offered three amendments that were included in the Senate bill. The first amendment would strengthen the requirement that a job be offered at a prevailing wage to American workers before it is offered to a guestworker. The second amendment would make it simple, but mandatory, for employers to verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States. And the third amendment would authorize $3 million a year for the FBI to improve the speed and accuracy of the background checks required for immigrants seeking to become citizens.
The new Congress must turn its attention to achieving comprehensive immigration reform. Senator Obama appreciates the serious ramifications of this issue – for American workers, Illinois communities, and immigrant families. He will continue to work with President Bush, his colleagues in Congress, and the citizens of Illinois to improve the effectiveness of our immigration laws and strengthen border security.
WASHINGTON — While Republican John McCain is urging his conservative critics to rally around his presidential campaign, there is a lot of water under that bridge.
Here are the top 10 reasons some conservatives dislike the Arizona senator:
1. Campaign finance reform. McCain tried to limit the role of money in politics with measures that, critics say, stomp on the constitutional right to free speech.
2. Immigration. McCain has been a vocal supporter of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, although he now says he understands the border between the U.S. and Mexico must be sealed first.
3. Tax cuts. McCain twice voted against President Bush's tax cuts, saying in 2001 they helped the wealthy at the expense of the middle class and in 2003 that there should be no tax relief until the cost of the Iraq war was known. But he now wants to extend the tax cuts.
4. Gay Marriage. McCain refuses to support a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.
5. Stem cell research. McCain would relax restrictions on federal dollars for embryonic stem cell research, which critics consider tantamount to abortion.
6. Global warming. Among the loudest voices in Congress for aggressive action against global warming and a frequent critic of the Bush administration on the issue.
7. "Gang of 14" member. One of seven Republicans and seven Democrats who averted a Senate showdown over whether filibusters could be used against Bush judicial nominees.
8. Kerry veep. McCain was approached by the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, about being his running mate. McCain talked with Kerry but rejected the offer.
9. Works with Democrats. See all of the above.
10. Belligerence. McCain can be acerbic toward his critics, such as when he labeled televangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson "agents of intolerance." He reconciled with Falwell in 2006. Conservative James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said in a statement on the morning of the Super Tuesday primaries that he would not vote for McCain, citing among other things his "legendary temper" and that he "often uses foul and obscene language."
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