Jason, thanks for the reasoned explanation.

Also thanks for pointing out that the report violation button does not automatically copy the contents of the comment into the report. I had assumed that it did since it echoed the comment above the check boxes and report area. Now I know to copy and paste that into the report.

Ok, sounds good,, so, which rules did CC33 break to have her account locked?,  and would you have done it if she were Liberal?

Hey mountainman are you jimr from Tehachapi ?

Where to start?  Relentless postings with deliberate repulsive remarks about special needs childrens and their parents on here, name calling, personal insults, profanity (F bomb)...that's a start.  To come back the next day and say "gee I'm sorry I got carried away" won't cut it.  Her bad behavior went on for HOURS if not all weekend with people incuding myself, asking  her to tone down the viciousness, so it's hard to believe it was just a slip up.  It was the INTENT as much as the words.

As far as I know all the people suspended here have been conservatives but this is the first one I've agreed should be suspended and, as anyone here can tell you, I'm a staunch conservative.  Party had nothing to do with this one so don't try to make it a partisan issue..

Edit... Forgot one little thing.  CC attacked a conservative first.  Then she branched out to include anyone who opposed her manner.

So in a nut shell--(no pun intended)...CC sounded like a drunk sailor on shore leave... 

and would you have done it if she were Liberal?

Of course he would have.  The point is, *SHE* wouldn't have done it if she were liberal. 

I never got involved, but I was watching the whole thing this weekend and still have some of the windows open where she used profanity. I stand by everything that Nancy said, because she's right and I agree with her.

Hmmm, ok, well, I didnt read all her blogs, but I do find interesting Annies comment that, "As far as I know all the people suspended here have been conservatives", I do see a trend, maybe some deserved it, I dont know, I dont come here much, but I think she and everybody should be given a second chance, and Gube, no, im not jimr, dont know who that is,

Mountianman: You are right in one statement that there are many Liberals on this site....I am not: but I've seen Superman and many others conservatives like CC33 come on this site and insult an opinion that they don't agree with ....and I will agree sometimes the onslaught is overwhelming but Jason does take a view at what is said and how it is said.....Just as an example there was an conflict between sojourner7 and WayFarer and some blogger who constantly badgered their religious beliefs also doing a parody of the words of God but rather than get into a insulting and cursing match with this blogger  they just plowed on ....and look who was left standing....Mountain the trend is that conservative's do  get kicked off because of the insults and cruel comments about family members and personal attacks not  for being a conservative....otherwise I'd be gone too.....

I agree with the suspension, account locking, whatever you want to call it.  However, I also would like to see an increasing level of penalty given by the TBC before a person is permanently  thrown out.  I've seen a lot of "baiting" by members who are just itching for the fight on both sides of the spectrum.  By what I read, it sounds like you only get one time to say I'm sorry and then the second time, your dead.  One time should work for 99% of the people, but a 3 strikes type law with increasing severity of punishment would be more equitable.  Or  the TBC can just stick with the current "your gone the second time".  If that is the case, I hope everyone realizes they are not perfect.  I've sure made more than one mistake in my life.  Just my two cents worth, for what its worth.

A major glitch is the window left open on weekends that invites bad behavior. The TOS would seem quite clear and I have fought for these from the beginning, but there should be an opportunity to address issues long before they reach critical mass.

since we are re-writing .....from my observation ..those who leave the most hateful and attacking comments usually, I said usually comes from those with limited user info .....a name a comment like" I say what i say " and that is it...not that a full bio makes you more or less vicious but it just seems that people with verifiable contact hold their tongues...so maybe the trigger should be pulled quickier on those with less info just my 2 cents

How about---the above rules under 'Leave a Comment'---Common courtesy AND respect others point of views....just keeping it simple and CLEAN.....IMHO

I copied all her most colorful stuff to a safe storage site...................Just in case I need it in the future.

I'm not bothering with her friend, Gunslinger. He's small potatoes in the insult hurling category.  

She will get a second chance MountainMan. Once her week of "time-out" is up, she has the option to either accept the terms and come back (minus the profanity and boorishness) or not accept the terms and be permanently banned. That choice is purely on her shoulders.

And Goofy, most people who make a minor offense are not given the week's suspension at first. If you read what Jason wrote, you'll see for minor offenses, he edits the comment and gives an email warning. So if you fall to the baiting and make a "boo-boo" and it's an isolated incident, you'll probably avoid "the axe". You'll make an even better case for yourself if you edit your own post and apologize before the admin warn you. Unfortunately, CC33 was not an isolated incident. She had a pattern of offensive and boorish behavior, even with people like Nancy and myself advicing her that she was violating the Terms of Use and to tone it down.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!! 

How does that go ........hmm.....

PEACE ON EARTH GOOD WILL TOWARDS MAN AND WOMAN .....AND PETS ......TREES....AND OK CC33 TOO...

 "As far as I know all the people suspended here have been conservatives"

I'm a conservative and I got a warning that I absolutely deserved to get.  I think Random makes an excellent point that although a political liberal may very well have been suspended or barred (if so, I'm not aware of any), virtually all the vicious personal attacks have come from social conservatives and I make that distinction because fiscal conservatives seem to have an excellent grasp of net etiquette, manners, ground rules and Terms of Service.  

I realize I'm one of very few people who use their real name online. I definitely don't think it's something everyone should do because personal privacy and having a sense of personal security is important.  But I've participated in online debate since the days of dial-up before there was such than as a web browser. I tried posting anonymously and I quickly saw that I allowed myself liberties that I, personally, knew I'd never take if I had to sign my own name to what I wrote.  So I switched to using my real name about 15 years ago because I didn't want to be mean to people. It forced me to own my own words and be held accountable.  

Again, I'm not saying that using your real name is for everyone, but I believe that if you were required to do so and determined to participate in debates online, you'd exercise a lot more restraint in the way you express yourself.  If you have the freedom and personal sense of security to do so, I encourage you to do the same. I know that because I use my real name, people attempt to Goggle information about me and then use it against me. Several people on this very site have done so and for me it is, at worst, creepy and at best, a waste of time. That's because I use my real name and I'm **always** prepared to stand by my own words, regardless of what web site someone may find them on. It's a decision I made nearly two decades ago, so excuse me if I understand why some people deliberately use a persona: they **intend** to let their emotions run wild when they register online and if they happen to be your next door neighbor in Bakersfield and have their "everyday" face on, you won't know that that very person  may be the one who says the most hateful and vicious thing to your face online.  They *want* to keep those identies separate because online they don't want to bear any responsibility for their words if the site host doesn't at least try to fairly enforce the site's TOS.  

In that regard, I pity anyone who has to deal with being the host. Jason probably has to take Tums or Pepto Bismol some morning before he turns on his computer to deal with the oouie-gooie bag that's waiting for him.  He going as good a job as anyone I've ever seen do as an online host (well, maybe one other person I know of [grin], Jason).  This year was especially unnerving since it had a political cycle and some highly contentious and emotional issues and public figures to discuss. I was in a virtual coma after Nov. 4th from the emotional impact that befell my household (I was going around humming "Suicide Is Painless" from MASH).  So, how'd I do? I expect you'll tell me. Many already have; people who have blocked me from their blogs because of their impatience with me or because I leaned on them too hard.  I'm sorry. I apologize. I'll try to do better. Don't let my fidelity to conservatism keep you from complaining when if I'm not playing fair. 

I'll disagree with one of the comments above.  Liberals are every bit as guilty as conservatives are of insults and rabble rousing, they're just more careful to stay within the bounds of TOS.  It really is possible to let people know you think they're an idiot and full of crap without coming right out and saying it.  I've been the target of many of those slings and arrows and have been known to throw a few myself.

Now before the libs get their collective knickers in a knot think about it.  Don't make me go back and find sources, I have to go to work soon.  It' all in how it's worded and we're all capable of using language that's acceptable to get our point across.  And our opinion of each others posts.

I had a teacher one time (she may have copied Ann Landers) who said "I can make you feel like a penny waiting for change without a single swear word."

We all can.  And we do.  Then we all complain that we're being attacked.    Pffffftttttttttt.  Outside people like CC and her posse mocus, redkern,  we shouldn't have such thin skin or we shouldn't be blogging.  That, of course, won't stop me from complaining either.

I'll disagree with one of the comments above.  Liberals are every bit as guilty as conservatives are of insults and rabble rousing, they're just more careful to stay within the bounds of TOS

That was kinda my point.  Robb, bless his heart, felt the restrictions were too binding to continue blogging here.  I like to view them as an artistic framework...

I plan on being there--THURSDAY---and just for 'giggles',someone point out to me where it says that I'm a LIB..solicits..DEM..communist...blood..crip...wet back...etc...and some of you have already have met me---but what about you others that haven't...at first sight--you may think that I'm there to steal tour first born--or I can be your best friend in the world---wouldn't you really want to know?

See ya THURSDAY.....

Artistic framework indeed, Random.  Excellent.  Good old Robb--he cracked me up.

Ling--at first sight--you may think that I'm there to steal tour first born--

Naw--at first sight I thought "I hope he shares that pitcher."  And he did...Dear Ling. 

 Liberals are every bit as guilty as conservatives are of insults and rabble rousing, they're just more careful to stay within the bounds of TOS

Some of my comments would curl your hair if I submitted them as first written.  By the time I get to the end of my remarks, I've cooled down and decided it's time to go back and edit.   Good thing I'm a slow typist.

Conservatives?  Conservatives?  Why, I thought I was the only one here!  Oh, I wish there were some way of ready identification.  We could put a "C" or an "L" in front of comments, or if we're wishy-washy, we could just give it a nice "C-O-O-L" instead.  

How about if we just be human beings?  :)

Oh, AD.  What are you, an arbitrator?  Want to go and spoil all the fun?  I guess you need to begin all your comments with the "C-O-O-L."  (NOT as in wishy-washy, but as in "character.")

Conservative or Liberal, we all have more in common than we think.

You never meet anyone in real life walking around constantly identifying themselves as "I'm a Liberal!" or "I'm a Conservative!"

Nope.  It's more like, "I'm a teacher,"  "I'm a mother of three" or "I'm a Raiders fan."

I am really REALLY REALLY getting sick of the divisive perpetuation of stereotypes around here.  I am really getting sick of the hate-filled SIDE-CHOOSING around here. 

And that's my two cents.

Sorry for shouting in bold, but that's how I feel.  Now I'm taking my ball and going home.

Catherine:  Thank you!  (And just think of it in bold, all caps and Italicized.)

wait ,wait ,wait , I actual drank a beer with Cathrine ( i think she had a beer) Mike definitely ( lingaowoo ) and it seemed

everyone was a pizza fan....now who doesn't like pizza ................   so in my world everyone is a pizza-lover .....

I am a Centrist. And the Last Bakersfield Capitalist.

You can now return to your previously scheduled program.

Sorry to disappoint refiguy. I don't eat pizza.... although not because I don't love it, more because it does not love me. Silly allergy to beef and dairy...

And Ray, not everyone's name is as obscure as you might think. Those with a little tech saavy can easily find my real name and PO Box address and even place of employment. But I've been using this name online since 1995. Since it was made up, it's fairly unique (although somewhat close to a German word, so sometimes people mispell the German word as shwaine) to me. If you search Google, you'll find mostly my stuff or that mispelling. It has the most meaning attached to it for my online presence, so I use it most places. I see my real name as my professional online identity and this one as my personal online identity.

Get with the program guys.

This is how I answer the phone..............Hello, this is Audrey, I'm a retired bookkeepper, mother of two, grandmother of two, Conservative Democrat but leaning towards the Libertarian Party............How may I help you?

Cat: Come out and play don't take your ball home, No one else here has a ball to play with     .... lol  Audrey: since I am at work I will answer my phone as Ms Jenny a Patriot ,,, not a Loyalist.  How may I help you? But really want to say you are cutting in my time blogging

Sorry msjenny--Been sending e-mails and stuff.  Had to wrestle the computer away from computer-hogs around here.  Got a busy night ahead so I probably won't be able to blog much. : (

HERE: I bequeath you my ball.  It goes against Festivus tradition since it's something you actually want, but for you I'll make an exception.  : )

And why aren't you on my friends list anyway?  Gonna fix that right away.