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motopoet - > MARK'S WORLD -> Let's Get Carter!
Let's Get Carter!

Who in Hell is Jimmy Carter other than the worst president since Andrew Johnson? Well, it's painfully obvious that HE thinks he is still a President! Who gave this nit-wit, closet anti-semite the authority to represent anyone in any country or any government anywhere in the world? I know, to be sure, it wasn't America and I am relatively certain that Israel in not interested in his self serving, senility induced diplomacy.

As President, his foreign policy was a disaster. He was out of his league in domestic politics, let alone the global arena. I used to think his intentions were, at least, honorable, but in light of recent events, I now see I was wrong about that as well. And don't hand me SALT II. That was signed by the USSR more for their own reasons that anything to do with a desire to get along with us. It helped ease the financial burden of keeping up with the USA in the arms race(not that it worked)and had little to do with his grace and diplomacy.

Does a burning embassy, burning American flags and dirty, frightened and blindfolded American hostages being shouted down as they were marched out for the world to see ring any bells? How about smoking helicopters in the desert and charred bodies on display in Tehran?

And don't talk to me about the release of the hostages 444 days later being brokered by Carter. Horesepucky! Ronald Reagan's election is what brought Iran to what little senses it had. He would surely have gone in, guns blazing, until the hostages were released or Iran was a desolate wasteland and the Ayotallah's knew it. They may have been crazy, but they weren't stupid and we didn't hear another peep from Iran until Uncle Tom got involved by taking advantage of an America divided by politcal manuvering and political correctness such as not seen since the seventies.

Fast forward 29 years. Jimmy Carter decides to stop doing good by building houses for the needy, takes a sabatical, possibly using taxpayer dollars from the Carter Center, and jets off to the Holy Land to broker an unsolicited peace argeement between Hamas and Israel.

HAMAS! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Hamas is a terrorist organization. The fact that they took control in the last general elections of the Palestinian National Authority does little to change that fact or legitimize Hamas. As they boycotted elections in 2005 when their popularity was low, it seems as if they only participate in diplomacy when it suits them..Kind of like right now! They are desribed by the non partisan Council on Foreign Relations only as the "Largest and most powerful Palestinian militant movement". Indeed, the man generally recognized as the leader of Hamas, Khaled Meshal lives in exile in Syria!

Oh, their supporters will say how much good they do with social programs in the disputed territories, but in reality they exist for, essentially, one true reason. The destruction of Isreal and the complete control and occupation by fundamental Muslims of Gaza, the West Bank and "every inch of disputed Palestinian lands.

Their Charter, penned in 1987, said specifically that "under no circumstances would Israel ever be recognized as a nation" and that it was their duty and obligation to "Wipe all Zionists from the face of the Earth". Sounds pretty cut and dried to me. Enter the imbicile from Plains. He thinks they deserve a global audience and the same recognition as legitimate governments. Lending Hamas this legitimacy is akin to lending the KKK legitimacy in global diplomacy. It just doesn't really work when you look at it in those terms, now does it?

Then this rube comes home to America waving a piece of paper wherein he claims Hamas agreed to play nice with Israel for ten years. Well isn't that special? I am sure the folks in Tel-Aviv are relieved and will sleep better. The problem is that after Carter announced his diplomatic victory, even Meshal said on al-Jezeera that he made no such promises. Hmm..Who should we believe? I think I just stick to believing the words of Hamas' original charter.

It has always bee US policy NOT to deal with terrorists in any way except to kill them when presented the opportunity. Hamas' place in the PA changes nothing in my mind or the minds of Israel. Condoleza Rice recommended that Carter not make the trip, but he said she was "misinformed" on the intentions of Hamas and "out of line" in her recommendation. His own government asks him not to go, but he does anyway. I guess since he decided not to listen to the people as president, why shoud he start now? I guess I'd like to know where this peanut farmer get off defying long standing US policy. Does his status as a former president give him the right, as an ordinary citizen, to engage in foreign policy with a terrorist orginazation. A sworn enemy to one of our allies? Maybe he has had too many talks with Jesse Jackson and Sean Penn.

I am outraged, as are many others. There is now a bill that has been sent to the floor called "The Carter Act" aimed at at stopping the tax dollars(about five million a year) his foundation receives. I hope it succeeds.

This man did all he could to drive America into the ground as president, but I fear he is even more dangerous as a private citizen because congress can't reign him in and this time it is the world he trying to screw up.

His past and current actions will cause the Jewish population to rail against him. I only hope everyone else follows suit. He needs to be stopped and put to pasture before his meddling causes great harm to our Israeli brothers.

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posted by blognroll on Apr 26, 2008 at 06:23 PM

Jimmy Carter is suffering from the "I wish I were still the President" syndrome.  He can never be the President again.  Thank God for that.  It seems pretty arrogant and narcissistic to me to independently undermine the policies of the United States.  He's a Hamas sympathizer, but he has little regard for the U.S. and its allies, including Israel.  

posted by TomW on Apr 26, 2008 at 06:50 PM

Carter can't be the worst President since Johnson.  Even if you meant ex-president, you've forgotten Voodoo Ron, Pierce, and Harrison off the top of my head.

As for thinking he was President, maybe he got confused because we don't have anyone who acts like a President now.

posted by TomW on Apr 26, 2008 at 07:00 PM

Oh, and the bit about US policy not to deal with terrorists, please see Iran-Contra.

I'm not a supporter of Hamas, but they are being given power by the citizens of Palestine.  If we do not recognize democratically elected governments, what's the point of spreading democracy?

posted by sagefever on Apr 26, 2008 at 07:01 PM

Why did our "brothers" feel it necessary to have a spy ? Just makes me all warm and cozy~not. Carter may not follow blindly the blind,but his right to express himself is an American right. The Carter Foundation does much good.

posted by randomfactor on Apr 26, 2008 at 07:06 PM

US policy towards Hamas has strengthened them.  Carter's doing something different; good for him.  I hope President Obama builds on his work.

posted by catpaw on Apr 26, 2008 at 07:26 PM

Just curious: Has brother Billy drank himself to death yet?

posted by johnburnssucks on Apr 26, 2008 at 07:40 PM

Tom, Franklin Pierce and William Henry Harrison were presidents before Andrew Johnson. I believe you're confusing him with Andrew Jackson. Johnson took over when Lincoln was assassinated, and survived by being removed from office by one vote.

Harrison didn't have much of a chance to do anything, since he contracted pneumonia giving a 4 1/2 hour inauguration speech in sub-freezing weather.

Cat, Billy died almost twenty years ago. No one really noticed, and for good reason...

posted by TomW on Apr 26, 2008 at 07:55 PM

Johnburns, yeah, weird swap in the brain.  Thanks.  Makes more sense that he'd pick out Johnson than Jackson.  Still, swap Harrison for Garfield and Pierce for Nixon.

posted by johnburnssucks on Apr 26, 2008 at 07:55 PM

As former President Jimmy Carter met with Hamas leaders and laid a wreath at the tomb of terrorist Yasser Arafat, Americans were wondering who Carter really is.

Carter came into office portraying himself as a man of the people, a peanut farmer who cares about the problems of working class Americans. But Secret Service agents, Air Force One stewards, and White House residence staff saw an entirely different picture.

While Richard Nixon was known to the Secret Service as the strangest modern president, Carter was known as the least likeable. If the true measure of a man is how he treats the little people, Carter flunked the test. Inside the White House, Carter treated those who helped and protected him with contempt.

“When Carter first came there, he didn’t want the police officers and agents looking at him or speaking to him when he went to the office…”

“We never spoke unless spoken to…Carter complained that he didn’t want them [the officers] to say hello.”

“When he was in a bad mood, you didn’t want to bring him anything,” a former Secret Service agent said. “It was this hunkered down attitude: ‘I’m running the show.’ It was as if he didn’t trust anyone around him. He had that big smile, but when he was in the White House, it was a different story.”

“Carter said, ‘I’m in charge,’” a former Secret Service agent said. “‘Everything is my way.’ He tried to micromanage everything. You had to go to him about playing on the tennis court. It was ridiculous.”

“It is a true story about the tennis courts,” said Charles Palmer, who was chief of the Air Force One stewards. Because other aides were afraid to give Carter the messages asking for permission, Palmer often wound up doing it.

“He [Carter] approved who played from on the plane,” Palmer said. “Mostly people used them when he was out of town. If the president was in a bad mood, the aides said, ‘You carry the message in.’ On the bad days when we were having problems, no one wanted to talk to the president. It was always, ‘I have a note to deliver to the president. I don’t want him hollering at me.’”

Palmer said Carter seemed to relish the power. At times, Carter would delay his response, smugly saying, “I’ll let them know,” Palmer said. “Other times, he would look at me and smile and say, ‘Tell them yes.’ I felt he felt it was a big deal. I didn’t understand why that had to happen.”

“The Carters were the biggest liars in the world,” White House military office director Bill Gulley said. “The word was passed to get rid of all the booze. There can’t be any on Air Force One, in Camp David, or in the White House. The first Sunday they are in the White House, I get a call from the mess saying, ‘They want bloody marys before going to church. What should I do?’ I said, ‘Find some booze and take it up to them.’”

Towards the end of his term, Carter became suspicious that people were stealing things and listening to his conversations in the Oval Office.

“They were becoming very paranoid,” said a General Services Administration (GSA) building manager in charge of maintenance of the west wing. “They thought GSA or the Secret Service were listening in.”

One afternoon, Susan Clough, Carter’s secretary, insisted that some of the crude oil in a vial had been stolen from the Oval Office. The vial was a gift to Carter from an Arab leader.

“Susan Clough swore up and down that someone poured some of it out,” a GSA manager said. Even though the vial was sealed, “There was a big fuss over it. The Secret Service photographs everything in the president’s suite. They photographed it [again], and it hadn’t been touched. It shows the paranoia.”

After Reagan was inaugurated, GSA discovered that the Carter staff had left garbage in the White House and had trashed furniture in the old Executive Office Building, much as Bill Clinton’s staff trashed the White House before President Bush moved in.

GSA saw “furniture, desks, and file cabinets turned over,” a GSA building manager said. “They shoved over desks. We had to straighten it out. It was 15 or 20 desks in one area. It was enough to look like a cyclone had hit.”

After he was voted out of office, Carter occasionally stayed in the townhouse GSA maintains for former presidents at 1716 Jackson Place. On the walls of the townhouse are photos of former presidents. GSA managers had to check on the premises and found that while Carter was there, Carter would remove the photos of Republican presidents Ford and Nixon and decorate the townhouse with another half-dozen 16-inch by 24-inch photos of himself.

Each time the GSA manager over the White House became irate because GSA had to find the old photos and hang them up again.

Lucille Price, the GSA manager, said, “Carter changed the photos . . . He didn’t like them [Ford and Nixon] looking down at him. We would find out he would put photos of himself up,” Price said. “Then he would take the photos of himself back with him,” she said. “He was a wimp.”

In telling Iran-supported Hamas that it should stop its rocket attacks on Israel, Carter no doubt thought he was still sitting on Air Force One, savoring the power of letting aides know when they could use the tennis courts.

 

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posted by TomW on Apr 26, 2008 at 08:23 PM

Clinton's people trashed the White House?  http://archive.salon.com/po...


The White House vandal scandal that wasn't
How the incoming Bush team nudge-nudged a credulous press corps into swallowing a trashy Clinton story.

 

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By Kerry Lauerman and Alicia Montgomery

May 23, 2001 | WASHINGTON -- The "scandal" broke benignly enough, with an item in Lloyd Grove's dishy Reliable Source column in the Jan. 23 Washington Post, three days after the inauguration of George W. Bush.

"Incoming staffers of the Bush White House," Grove wrote, were "apparently victims of a practical joke." Bush aides in the Old Executive Office Building (EOB), adjacent to the White House, discovered that "many computer keyboards in their work spaces are missing the W key -- as in President Bush's middle initial."

Some W keys were discovered "taped on top of the doorways," while others were broken.

The report was more cute than cutting, with Grove quoting former Al Gore spokesman Chris Lehane, who quipped: "I think the missing W's can be explained by the vast left-wing conspiracy now at work."

But within two days, Grove's playful item had morphed into one more full-blown Clinton scandal. Suddenly newspapers and TV news shows were featuring extensive reports of Clinton administration "vandalism," stretching from the EOB offices of former Vice President Gore to the West Wing. Reports alleged expletive-ridden graffiti, sliced computer and telephone wires, file cabinets glued shut, presidential seals steamed off doors, stolen pictures and so-called porn bombs, which were never exactly described.

The technological problems the vandals wrought were so severe that, according to a report in the New York Daily News, "a telecommunications staffer with more than a quarter-century of service was seen sobbing."

"Phone lines cut, drawers filled with glue, door locks jimmied so that arriving Bush staff got locked inside their new offices," a disapproving Andrea Mitchell reported on NBC News. The message seemed clear: The trailer-trash Clintons and their staff had enjoyed one last bacchanal at taxpayer expense.

Now it seems those closely detailed stories were largely bunk. Last week it was revealed that a formal review by the General Accounting Office, Congress' investigative agency, "had found no damage to the offices of the White House's East or West Wings or EOB" and that Bush's own representatives had reported "there is no record of damage that may have been deliberately caused by the employees of the Clinton administration."

While cautious GSA staffers won't issue a blanket exoneration of the Clinton team, Bernard Ungar, the agency's director of physical infrastructure, told Salon the media clearly exaggerated the extent of the damage. According to the terse GSA statement that formed the basis of Ungar's conclusion, "the condition of the real property was consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy."

 

posted by randomfactor on Apr 26, 2008 at 08:47 PM

We should've known the WMD theory was a lie, Tom.  The Shrubbery started lying *BEFORE* they moved in and pee'd on the Constitution.

posted by TomW on Apr 26, 2008 at 09:11 PM

RF, it started during the election, but we expect it during an election.  Then it continued during the transition, but we expected a bit of it during the transition.  Then it continued during the administration and by then we'd all sort of tuned it out.

posted by blognroll on Apr 26, 2008 at 10:38 PM

I thought the blog was about Jimmy Carter.  Nice diversion :)

posted by catpaw on Apr 27, 2008 at 05:44 AM

Not really a diversion. Just so much that you can say about Carter being an idiot.

posted by adampayne on Apr 27, 2008 at 09:08 AM

Yes, who the hell is Jimmy Carter? While our federal government doesn't seem to be able to even disburse Katrina reconstruction funds, and New Orleans still looks much like a disaster zone, it is Jimmy Carter's Habitat For Humanity projects doing the heavy lifting in building homes for the displaced in the region. In Africa the Carter Center has worked on a variety of humanitarian efforts to stem the terrible suffering in the region. 

I'm not sure what people want or expect from ex-Presidents but this guy has been tops for all he has accomplished in the 27 years out of office. Carter was the first American President to broker a peace pact with Israel and major Arab nations. When Bush Jr. took office following Clinton's long efforts to get the Israelis and Palestinians back at the table to hammer out some type of peace agreement, our government went into hiding on the diplomatic front. The results of abandoning dialog has been the largest scale eruption of violence in the area since the major conflicts of the 1960s and early 1970s. Theoretically we love democracy, but if a party we do not approve of wins the vote we find other more dramatic methods to enforce our viewpoint.

Why not Jimmy Carter? Who in our current government even knows how to speak to people of the world? Rice is a total failure as a foreign policy government agent. She sold Colin Powell down the drain in pursuit of a position that has only exposed her indifference and impotence. Bolton is a hostile neanderthal partisan-hack who infuriated the rest of the world. Hadley thinks Nepal is Tibet. 

You talk of failures of foreign policy. Carter had one fatal gaffe, not seeing the fall of the shah coming quick enough to get our people out of Iran. The nation was not attacked with our own planes being flown by box-cutter toting suicide jihadists from "friendly" nations.

posted by Maggiepoo on Apr 27, 2008 at 09:14 AM

Jimmy carter is a Nobel Peace Prize winner and is only filling the void of the BushCo administration, thier unability to be a force in world diplomacy is now a glaring fact, thank you Mr Carter. Pres Carter has moved the process farther along in 1 week than the 8 yrs of BushCo.

posted by johnburnssucks on Apr 27, 2008 at 09:44 AM

Jimmy carter is a Nobel Peace Prize winner and is only filling the void of the BushCo administration

The awarding of the Peace Prize is so politically motivated that it has lost a good deal of its luster. It now ranks in virtually the same category as the "Miss Oildale" award.

Carter was the first American President to broker a peace pact with Israel and major Arab nations.

Pure symbolism. Carter knew that it wouldn't last, but the photo op of him with Sadat and Begin all shaking hands was too appealing to turn down. The end result was that Sadat was assassinated for agreeing to the pact, and things ended up going right back to where they were before.

posted by Maggiepoo on Apr 27, 2008 at 10:07 AM

"The awarding of the Peace Prize is so politically motivated that it has lost a good deal of its luster. It now ranks in virtually the same category as the "Miss Oildale" award."

That is the knowledge that has led the USA to a 2nd rate country, pathetic and inbred. Name 1 political motivated winner and back up your statement why?

posted by Maggiepoo on Apr 27, 2008 at 10:27 AM

The Nobel Prize Internet Archive
 

If you can`t find the link this will help... Political   geeezzzz....

http://www.almaz.com/nobel/...

 

posted by adampayne on Apr 27, 2008 at 10:32 AM

JBS, it was certainly more than symbolic what Carter accomplished at that point in time. That extremists within all Middle East nations undermine all rational attempts over the many years to achieve peace points to the gross economic inequities that exist throughout the region. Thoughtful peace inclined leaders on both sides have been assassinated to prevent progress and stability. George Marshall, as the Secretary of State in the late  1940s, has been proven correct when he told Truman that America's recognition of Israel was a guarantee of war for a hundred years. He resigned over the matter. We're 60 years on from that pronouncement with no end in sight.

posted by antiextremism on Apr 27, 2008 at 12:28 PM

You give Carter too much Credit. The honor of worse President in history goes to George Bush Jr., hands down. And not just since Johnson, I mean EVER. You'll be able to read that in your history books in a couple of decades. Oh wait, history books are written by educated people, so they must by lying liberals. LOL

Are there really people out there that think Bush has been good for America?????? And if there are, have they been stranded on a desert Island with the Skipper????

Carter brought a lasting peace between Egypt and Israel. Even Moses couldn't do that.

Bush has brought turmoil and death to the middle east. I think he qualifies as a Templar now. Watch out George, the Catholics will be after you if you make too much money of the war.......

 

posted by Maggiepoo on Apr 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Peace is not good for business, Carter found that out, no business=no President,  War is good business= BushCo good President

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:17 PM

Nice picture, Antiextremism.  You pretty much declaring open season on distasteful caricatures of political leaders?

posted by randomfactor on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:26 PM

You think photoshopped images can make Carter look worse than Shrub, the Worst.  President.  Ever?  Even Photoshop isn't that powerful.

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:33 PM

 

posted by Maggiepoo on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:33 PM

Distasteful reality...

 

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:37 PM
posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:49 PM

""Hello media, do you know you indirectly kill American soldiers every day?"

Those words and much more from Chief Warrant Officer Jim Funk:

FunkYou inspire and report the enemy's objective every day. You are the enemy's greatest weapon. The enemy cannot beat us on the battlefield so all he does is try to wreak enough havoc and have you report it every day. With you and the enemy using each other, you continually break the will of the American public and American government.

"We go out daily and bust and kill the enemy, uncover and destroy huge weapons caches and continue to establish infrastructure. So daily we put a whoopin on the enemy, but all the enemy has to do is turn on the TV and get re-inspired. He gets to see his daily roadside bomb, truck bomb, suicide bomber or mortar attack. He doesn't see any accomplishments of the U.S. military (FOX, you're not exempt, you suck also).

"Let's give you an example. A couple of days ago we conducted an air assault. We lifted troops into an area for an operation. The operation went well and our ground troops killed (insurgents) and took several prisoners, freed a few hostages and uncovered a weapons cache containing munitions and chemicals that were going to be used in improvised bombs.

"The next morning I woke up and turned on AFN (Armed Forces Network) and watched the nightly news (NBC). Nothing, none of that reported. But the daily car bomb report was reported, and the file footage was not even from the event. There was a car bomb in the Sadr City area and your news report showed old car bomb footage from another part of town from some other time.

"So we really set the enemy back that night but all the enemy had to do was turn on the news and be reassured that the enemy's agenda (objective) was still going to be fed to the American public.

"We, the soldiers, keep breaking the back of the enemy. You, the media, keep rejuvenating the enemy.

"How hard would it be to contact the PAO (public affairs officer) of the 1st CAV, 36th CAB, 25th ID or the Marines and ask what did you guys accomplish today - good and bad? How about some insurgent blooper videos? Now that would be something to show on the evening news.

"Media, we know you hate the George Bush administration, but report both sides, not just your one-sided agenda. You have got to realize how you are continually motivating every extremist, jihadist and terrorist to continue their resolve to kill American soldiers."

posted by ChicaEsquela on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:53 PM

Great! Let's declare mission accomplished. Wait a second...that was already tried and it didn't work. Rats!

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:53 PM
posted by NancyII on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:54 PM

Amen to that.  Maybe we should start shooting the messenger.

As I've heard many people say...D-Day could never have succeeded in this day and age.

posted by NancyII on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:56 PM

Ah ChicA...there you go trying to fool us again.

By the way..the amen above was in reference to Dril's soldier's lament.

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 03:59 PM
posted by ChicaEsquela on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:00 PM

The only fools I know of are of the conservative ilk.

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:03 PM
posted by randomfactor on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:06 PM

D-Day isn't what Bush did to Iraq.  More like the taking of the Sudetenland.  If that's been made harder for future presidents, so much the better.

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Dril, the solution is obvious.  Pull our troops out of Iraq and media coverage becomes irrelevant.

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:07 PM

OH Jimmah!  you are the face of the Democrat party!  You are a true hero of the Left!

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:09 PM

First America. Then the Sudentenland!

posted by randomfactor on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:17 PM

Ah, photoshop makes up for a lack of argumentative skills again.  Thank heavens for Adobe, otherwise they'd be reduced to fecal flinging.

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:24 PM

"I've been meeting with Hamas leaders for years," Carter said.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

posted by randomfactor on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:28 PM

dril flings another handful from the manure pile.

Look, the plain truth is that there's not a reputable* scholar who, in 20 years, is going to rate Carter anywhere below George W. Bush. 

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*Reputable, in this instance, means "not using photoshop in place of argument."

posted by antiextremism on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:34 PM

Well drillnlift, I can only assume that you HAVE been on a deserted Island for the last 7 years...

Can you tell me exactly what Bush has done that was good? And I don't mean your 1200 dollar rebate. You know, the one that they want you to use to help the American economy. Unfortunately about the only things you can purchase that would help would be Budweiser and hookers. I believe they are the only things made domestically anymore.

posted by RosemarysAbortionist on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:36 PM

Randomfactor sure does a masterful job combating stupid with class.

posted by randomfactor on Apr 27, 2008 at 04:37 PM

I've heard they're outsourcing the hookers nowadays too.    I wouldn't know from personal experience, you understand.

posted by drilnliftcrude on Apr 27, 2008 at 05:05 PM

Random:

*Reputable, in this instance, means "not using photoshop in place of argument."

Anti:

Huh?  Who's side you on?

 

 

posted by antiextremism on Apr 27, 2008 at 05:07 PM

I LIKE photoshop Drillnlift.  LOL

posted by NancyII on Apr 27, 2008 at 07:30 PM

Awww..it's so special when my words are twisted to bash Bush.  Like anyone needed to do that. 

I SAID that D-Day couldn't happen today in reference to reporters blabbing constanly about who is where and what's next.  The Germans would have been waiting on the beach and they wouldn't be handing out pails and shovels.  Vietnam was the first televised war where people had a ringside seat and the first time the public actually saw how bloody and terrible it is.  But they wanted to watch it in some sick fascination.    Then, I remember during the Gulf war, thinking  "wow, they're telling the enmy right on TV where they plan to strike next.  With this war, there's way too much chatter by the media about things we don't have a need to know.  And NO, we do not have a need to know every detail about a war.  That's why they have Generals and Admirals, and such.  People who know their jobs.  Whether you folks agree with how that job is done or not is another story and if any of you think you can better strategize and plan a campaign, then YOU should have gone to OCS.

Now please, leave Bush out of this...we're talking about reporters wanting to be the first to scoop a story at any cost.

posted by johnburnssucks on Apr 27, 2008 at 07:59 PM

Name 1 political motivated winner and back up your statement why

Did giving Al Gore the Peace Prize make the Middle East or any other war-torn region less of a disaster? No. Not to mention that Gore himself causes more CO2 emissions than many small countries, and ice cap growth in the Antarctic is at its highest level in recorded history.

Peace Prize? It was an attempt to persuade Gore that he should run for the White House. Didn’t work.

Jimmy Carter was given the award as a calculated political attack on Bush.

There's two examples. No one except a tiny, tiny microcosm of the population really even cares about this subject, anyway.

 

 

 

 

posted by ChicoEsquela on Apr 27, 2008 at 08:08 PM
ChicA (Mark Martinez sock) who spent one whole radio show with the adipose Easter Candy (his ideological and intellectúal equivalent) calling Robert Riesch, Robert Riech and pronounces Reuters, Rooters is the very essence of what he supposedly inveighs against (prevaricating morons).......... Wierd, no?
posted by NancyII on Apr 27, 2008 at 09:59 PM

I'd like to see a poll (which some bloggers plan their lives around) where they ask Mr. and Mrs. every day America which politicians got Nobel prizes and what it was for.  I'll betcha a dollar to a doughnut most couldn't tell you.

Is that really a factor in whether or not you bloggers would vote for a candidate?

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