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I don't like In n Out Burger and I am glad there isn't one in the vicinity. My family, however, does like them, and once in awhile, asks me to get them some. The closest one to me is on Stockdale Hwy and that takes me past "protesters patch", better known as Stockdale Hwy and New Stine Rd. For anyone not from Bakersfield, that is the busiest intersection in town. They are always there. The anti Bush crowd, and it seems, they have been there since Jan. 21st 2001, the day after the innaguration. It has always been something from stealing the election to the War. It's OK. I think it's cool to see Americans exercising their right to dissent and voice or show their opinions, even when I disagree. The most common theme since 2003 has been "Impeach Bush". OK..I get it. They don't like or trust the president and it's good that they know their rights, but it's unfortunate that they don't seem to understand the succession of leadership in the federal government. Do they think that by Bush stepping down or being impeached that they will be able to slip one of their guys into the breach? Or that Cheney will succumb to their relentless pursuit of their hatred of the other side? What about Speaker Hastert and the cabinet members, the least senior being Michael Chertoff, Director of Homeland Security? That is, by my count, eighteen people to get rid of. I am certain that, by then, the 2008 elections will be upon us. Actually, in the evnt of impeachment, I am not sure how far down the list they have to go. In all reality, an impeachment is as unlikely as anyone stepping down. I remember when President Clinton was on trial in the Senate. I was terrified to think that Al Gore might become the nations leader by default and was glad to see Slick Willy aquitted. If the anti-Bush crowd thinks the country is distracted now, wait till we are putting priorities aside on articles of impeachment that will tell our enemies that we are more concerned with the hatred of an individual than we are about dealing with them! If I were the one of the protesters, I think I might be compelled to protest the liberals(and I am not saying these folks are all democrats)for not coming up with some sort of plan to take the White House in 2008. Complaining about the perceived injustices of the past and dissent of the present will not insure thier victoty in the future. They need a plan and I have yet to hear one. There is a difference between being politically active and just being pissed and they don't seem to realze that. I will say, in their defense, that they seem to be peaceful and are usually smiling. That's good. We should be able to disagree without incident. I do not shout at them or make silly gestures and I never will. I admire their tenacity, I just think it is misplaced. Bush will not be running again and it seems to me that they are wasting their time and resources by calling for his head on a platter and that their time would be better spent building up a viable candidate to carry out their wishes. *SIGH*...All this just so I can go get food from a place I don't even like. I wish they'd just build an In n Out over here 26 comments from 12 users
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posted by
motopoet
on Aug 15, 2006 at 09:29 PM
Well..That's why I sing, or more accurately, play the blues. People seem to forget that 9-11 hadn't happened in 2000. The world changed that day and I am glad it did. Not glad for teh attacks on America, but that Bush had the courage to take the fight to them. I fear that Gore would have turned it into a UN santioned, courtroom drama hoping for good poll numbers. Mission WAS accomplished in the fact that we went to war with Iraq. That mean we went to destroy their ability and will to make war. We did that. Their military was decimated, it's leaders killed or captured and it's dictators deposed, killed and captured. The war we are fighgting there now is the war on terror. We are not fighting Iraq. The vast majority of the insurgents aren't even Iraqi's. I don't care if they want to listen to my phones..I have nothing to hide. If someone gets caught up in some domestic or unrelated criminal activity(which has yet to happen)as a result..well..don't do the crime if you can't do the time. I don't care if our enemies are tortured. You seem more concerned about the pieces of s*it than you are about what they do to our people. Let them suffer before heading off to their seventy-two mansions, bed and virgins. posted by
nancyg
on Aug 16, 2006 at 07:17 AM
posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 16, 2006 at 07:46 AM
Nancy, that's nonsense. Clinton was a consummate politician, a skill this country values far above leadership. Despite that, his presidency will probably rank in the top third historically in terms of accomplishments. Bush, by comparison, will come in dead last. Clinton was acquitted because he was, in fact, innocent of the charges. posted by
steveeswenson
on Aug 16, 2006 at 07:58 AM
Let's get back to where this blog started -- In N Out Burger. My son recently moved to Klamath Falls. Loves the town except for one thing. No In N Out Burger. Sometimes we just don't realize how lucky we are. posted by
nancyg
on Aug 16, 2006 at 08:10 AM
Steve..You're RIGHT...all political discussions do is get people stirred up. On the other hand..In n Out soothes the soul. Ooops...except in Marks case where he doesn't like them. I'm not a big burger fan but In n Out tops them all. posted by
anonymous
on Aug 16, 2006 at 08:15 AM
Nancy
Nice Picture! Audrey posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 16, 2006 at 08:51 AM
Random wrote, "I don't see public protest as a good way to change political strategy."
You have no idea how encouraging it is to hear a (presumably) progressive Democrat say that.
As for whether Democrats have a plan, they unfurled one recently. It even has a name. But I don't blame Mark for not being aware of this.
With almost no real liberal voices in the media, the Democrats' plan didn't get much news coverage.
posted by
robbwillis
on Aug 16, 2006 at 09:11 AM
You'll definitely have to stop off here for a round or two on your next drive to Klamath Falls, Steve. Bring me an In N Out burger too... . Clinton, Bush, Bush, Clinton, nobody will be happy with the next guy either. And so it goes.
posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 16, 2006 at 09:23 AM
. Heck, *I* have a plan for peace in Iraq, but nobody's listening. . And Steve, I think In-n-out is *HIGHLY* overrated. But I've learned not to discuss controversial subjects like that in public. posted by
dusty1215
on Aug 16, 2006 at 09:57 AM
It serves it purpose I think. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 16, 2006 at 10:20 AM
That's a good point, Dusty, but my concern is it has been overused by the Left. Overuse of a tactic lessens the impact of the protest -- and if it's always the same people protesting the same thing, it gets old and is no longer effective.
Protest, in my opinion, is most effective as a response to the threat or actual carrying out of a action or law that the protesters feel is abominable. Say, for example, if Congress succeeded in passing the misnomer "protect marriage" amendment to the Constitution, a mass protest of clearly outraged and militant citizens is powerful. It warns lawmakers, "if you do this, twenty million pissed off people are going to make your life hell." posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Aug 16, 2006 at 10:40 AM
posted by
motopoet
on Aug 16, 2006 at 09:41 PM
posted by
NancyII
on Aug 16, 2006 at 09:55 PM
posted by
steveeswenson
on Aug 17, 2006 at 08:16 AM
I looked up your course on line. Looks nice so I will be happy to make a few craters on your greens. Random, Thanks for fighting the urge to comment on controversial subjects. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 17, 2006 at 08:30 AM
When the media were discussing the replacement for Chief Justice William Rehnquist, one of the panelists on Meet The Press said flatly, "liberal judges are a bad thing, conservative judges are a good thing." Nobody on MTP challenged that statement. Same time frame: Lou Dobbs, one of TV's more liberal commentators, had Robert Bork as a guest. Not only did he fail to invite any guests critical of conservative judicial picks, but Dobbs basically portrayed Bork favorably as an undeserving victim of the Democrats. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 17, 2006 at 08:33 AM
Phil Donahue was the lone anti-war voice for a while, but he was fired because (not saying it's the only reason) his bosses feared that his show would become a center for the anti-war movement. (For the record, I supported our Afghanistan action. However, the anti-war voice, however small during Afghanistan operations, still deserved at least one voice.) Check this out, from all places -- the L.A. Times: http://www.latimes.com/news... Rosa Brooks: Antiwar Wackadoos Are Winning "WHAT DO YOU have to do to get a little peace and quiet around here? It used to be possible to adopt an antiwar platform and be left entirely alone by most mainstream Americans. Sure, you'd be sneered at by the media, ostracized by the major political parties and, from time to time, your in-laws would accuse you of living on the radical fringe. ..." posted by
robbwillis
on Aug 17, 2006 at 08:58 AM
posted by
gr8scott
on Aug 17, 2006 at 09:08 AM
It's about accountability. posted by
mattloch
on Aug 18, 2006 at 09:50 AM
posted by
motopoet
on Aug 18, 2006 at 03:28 PM
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Aug 18, 2006 at 03:46 PM
posted by
NancyII
on Aug 19, 2006 at 09:53 PM
THIS IS NUTS !!! Someone needs to make the maneuvering easer on this wacky blog. None of the profile stuff makes sense either. When I edit a post it takes me to an area where my past blogs were. I say were..because now there are only a few and they aren't in chronicological order. When I try to find that area again..I can't find it. When I clicked on view my profile it took me to other peoples BLOGS!!! Sorry to use your space for this Mark but I can't find Dans blog to register the complaint from the proper plave. GRRRRRRRRRR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by
nancyg
on Aug 19, 2006 at 11:21 PM
posted by
nancyg
on Aug 19, 2006 at 11:23 PM
posted by
motopoet
on Aug 20, 2006 at 04:06 PM
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