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noholdsbarred - > No holds barred -> Two parties shouldn't have all the fun
Two parties shouldn't have all the fun

What is it about the word "open" that sends chills down the spines of some
political types?

In this case I'm talking about the open primary Sen. Abel Maldonado, R-Santa
Maria, strong-armed the Legislature into putting on the 2010 ballot in
exchange for his vote to close the state budget gap.

I've always liked the idea of an open primary because it would give me a
greater range of choice. Like most voters, I'm not a die-hard party
faithful. I've never given money to any candidate, cause or party.

Under Maldonado's proposal, I and other voters like me, could vote for
whichever congressional or state level candidate we wanted, regardless of
party affiliation and the two top vote-getters, again regardless of party,
would face off in the general election.

That's perfect for me. I like to weigh each candidate's track record and how
they approach the issues that matter most to me, regardless of the letter
after their name.

Besides giving voters more choice, many political reformers believe an open
primary would produce more moderate candidates instead of the wild-eyed
ideologues now roaming the Capitol who create more confrontation than
forward movement.

Even in lopsided districts where one party vastly outnumbers the other, the
theory is that if you had a slate full of Democrats, the strongest candidate
would be one who also appealed to moderate or even conservative voters in
order to win a slot in the general election.

As for possible mischief being a major concern, A.G. Block, longtime former
editor of the political magazine California Journal and now director of the
public affairs/journalism program at University of California Center
Sacramento, shrugged it off.

"You hear all the time that the Dems could vote for the weakest Republican
or vice versa,² he said. 'So what? The Republican would still win. But I
don't think that happens much anyway.

"The more logical conclusion is that the Democrat, or Republican,  would
look for the candidate who was closer to their own views."

Over time, that could help put more open-minded legislators in Sacramento,
he said.

We made a stab at having an open primary in 1998. But the major political
parties sued and it was declared unconstitutional because it interfered with
the parties' right of free association.

Another attempt in 2004 was thwarted after leaders in the Legislature pulled
a really scummy trick and put a competing measure on the ballot at the last
minute that included an unrelated sweetener calling for the sale of excess
state property to pay down the deficit. (Kevin McCarthy, now our
congressman, and state Sen. Roy Ashburn both voted for this.)

The flim-flam worked and we still have a closed primary, sort of.

If you're a "decline to state" rather than a registered party member, you
can sometimes vote in another party's primary IF that party allows it in
that election and only for certain races as designated by the party.

Not exactly "open."

A quick poll of our legislators found that Sen. Dean Florez, a Democrat, is
for an open primary and Ashburn, a Republican, is against it.
Assemblyman Danny Gilmore, R-Hanford, voted for Maldonado's measure, even
though he voted against other portions of the budget package.

"I think it possibly could help,² he told me. "I'll tell you there are some
real strong opinions in that building far to the left and right. I find it
interesting and frustrating, honestly." Gilmore noted the growing number of
independents, people who¹ve left both parties, in his home district. He
expects that trend to continue.

Assemblywoman Jean Fuller, R-Bakersfield, did not return my calls.

Ashburn, who stood by his 2004 vote, said an open primary is bad for
democracy.

"If people who don't share the same philosophies, principles and ideals of a
certain party get to select that party's nominee, it seems to me it would be
the end of political parties and they are fundamental to our way of
democracy," Ashburn said.

Still, he said, it should be up to voters to decide.

Florez predicted a fight.

"The chamber and business interests would probably support it given the
likely outcome of more moderates being elected," Florez said in an email.

"However, would this be another fight where the Congressional Dems and Reps
try to kill the initiative so they don¹t have to worry about playing in a
different game.

"Both parties will will oppose it."

He couldn't be more right about that.

"I don¹t think it's right for Republicans to chose my candidates," said
Candi Easter, chair of the Kern County Democratic Central Committee. "My
position in my party IS to influence candidates and legislators to bring
them closer to my way of thinking."

"I'm 100 percent opposed to it," said Stan Harper, long-time local
Republican campaign consultant. "It's totally unfair that Democrats or
Republicans would have the opportunity to vote in a primary to help elect a
nominee from the opposing party in order to make them more conservative or
more liberal."


Well, at least they can agree on that.

Opinions expressed in this column are those of Lois Henry, not The
Bakersfield Californian. Her  column appears Wednesdays and Sundays. Commentat people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/noholdsbarred, call her at 395-7373 or e-mail
lhenry@bakersfield.com

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posted by vanityfair on Feb 21, 2009 at 10:22 PM

"Like most voters, I'm not a die-hard party faithful."  - Lois Henry

Really? I'd like to see both of those assertions qualified. Who are "most voters" and how do you know they aren't "party faithful"? In my opinion, the Democrats are the most "faithful" of all ... interesting pun.

And Ms. Henry, I think it would take the threat of a blunt sword at the neck for you to ever vote for a Republican, and even then, you would look at the oppressor and ask ... "What the .....?" 

 

posted by Lingtaowoo on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:23 AM

It's always--'us and them...us and them'....yup, I say it's time for a change..all we've been hearing in the news  for some time is two dogs fighting over the same bone....I think the American public is waking up....

posted by randomfactor on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:44 AM

"You hear all the time that the Dems could vote for the weakest Republican
or vice versa,² he said. 'So what? The Republican would still win. But I
don't think that happens much anyway.
 

The weakest Republican candidate last year, until the open primaries of "Super Tuesday," was John McCain. That worked out fairly well for us--and certainly for the country.

posted by NancyII on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:48 AM

When you have people with opposing opinions it's always "us and them", it's the nature of the beast.

Just remember, the dog who pulls the hardest gets the bone and isn't likely to share with the other.  And you can bet the loser isn't going to thank the winner.

posted by randomfactor on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:52 AM

Just remember, the dog who pulls the hardest gets the bone and isn't likely to share with the other.  

The dog with the bone this year tried to share...and the other dogs refused en masse to step up. 

posted by sagefever on Feb 22, 2009 at 09:53 AM

Time before last if Senator McCain had gotten the Republican nomination~ I was going to vote for him.That's right,me a Democrat "liberal" or other less complimentary descriptive term of your choice. He had principals.

As to open primaries~ I am conflicted.

posted by vanityfair on Feb 22, 2009 at 07:05 PM

On topic, I'm all for open primaries. If constituents want to waste their votes in an attempt to manipulate the other party, fine. It's really no different, in principle, than voting for only ONE KHSD Trustee when there are multiple seats open ;)

Off topic, my comment to Ms. Henry yesterday was meant to be playful. Perhaps a bad metaphor, but I do believe that Lois would never vote for a Republican unless it was by force, and even then she would tell said force to kiss off. One of my sisters read this blog and called this afternoon to say she wouldn't take my kids after I was arrested for death threats. Whuh? Nobody has a sense of humor these days.

posted by Btowntv007 on Feb 23, 2009 at 08:24 AM

If we are ever going to get away from a two party system, then we need them.  And if you are against them as a voter, then you are just empowering the same people that work the system to stay in office. 

posted by CatherineBaker on Feb 23, 2009 at 08:40 AM

Vanity--those death threats will get ya every time.  LOL!

posted by donmason on Feb 23, 2009 at 04:35 PM

Open Primaries = Freedom

 

posted by randomfactor on Feb 23, 2009 at 04:50 PM

Apparently the Republicans haven't believed in freedom, then.  The Democratic primary last time round was semi-open (open to decline-to-state).  Teh Repubs, not so much.

posted by jlocke on Feb 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM

A few years ago I took the Political Science 101 class from Dr. Price at CSUB. He showed us Census data from the past 30+ years that far more Republicans voted along party lines even when they didn't like the candidate. Nixon was an example of this, so was Bush's second term.

Democrats on the other hand voted along idealogical lines the slight majority of the time. Therefore, Republicans are more loyal to their party to the detriment of their ideals, while Democreats are more loyal to their ideals than to their party.

I do believe that Open Primaries are the only true measure of a population's desires, but if anything, it usually hurts Dems more than Republicans. Personally I say let the people decide, and over time government will hopefully settle into a more moderate tone in which issues are debated and voted on honestly instead of along party lines.

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