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paxchristi3 - > Shining the light of the Catholic faith on the Culture of Death -> Amendments that would ban abortion funding in Obamacare defeated
Amendments that would ban abortion funding in Obamacare defeated

What happened here? Did some folks fail to get the message from their Dear Leader that there would be no abortion funding in his health care reform proposal? Inquiring minds want to know, particularly the indomitable Bill Donohue of Catholic League:

DEMOCRATS ON COLLISION COURSE WITH CATHOLICS

September 30, 2009

The amendments by Sen. Orrin Hatch that would ban abortion funding in the health care bill and ensure conscience rights protections for health care workers were defeated today by a margin of 13-10. Catholic League president Bill Donohue addressed its implications:

The Democrats are on a collision course with the nation’s bishops, and the Catholic faithful in general. They cannot expect Catholics to pay for child abuse in the womb without reprisal. Nor can they expect Catholics to sit back and watch while Catholic doctors and nurses are punished for failing to cooperate in evil.

More than any group in America, Catholic bishops have been at the forefront of the movement for universal health care. But they never signed on to a health care reform package that made them violate their professed beliefs. Nor will they.

President Obama has said he will not support a bill that provides funding for abortion or denies conscience rights for health care employees. If he is honest, then he should issue a public statement condemning what happened today. If he makes no attempt to change the outcome, then the only logical conclusion for Catholics to draw is that they have been lied to. One thing we know for sure: If all along Obama had shown a fraction of the interest on this issue that he is currently showing about winning over the Olympic Committee in bringing the games to Chicago, the Hatch amendment would have passed today.

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posted by JohnfromBakersfield on Oct 1, 2009 at 04:30 AM

Copy pasting is fun!

 

 

 While Hatch's amendment was advertised as maintaining "government neutrality" on abortion, it would have actually rolled back existing abortion coverage in private plans. Moreover, as Jonathan Cohn has pointed out, the tax writeoff for employer-sponsored health plans already provides significant taxpayer subsidies for optional abortion coverage, so allowing subsidies to be used (particularly since the Baucus bill already requires segregation of public and private money for such purposes) for the same coverage doesn't really change anything.

posted by paxchristi3 on Oct 1, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Copy pasting indeed is fun, John. It makes my work so much simpler when folks like Donohue crank out hit pieces to expose the weasels playing a shell game with the abortion-funding issue, with the latest one being this:

DISHONESTY MARKS HEALTH CARE DEBATE

October 1, 2009

Catholic League president Bill Donohue addresses the dishonesty that marks the debate over health care reform:

Sen. Max Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, is quoted in today’s New York Times commenting on allegations that abortion would be covered in the health care bill: “We are not changing current law.” Similarly, Sen. Olympia Snowe is quoted in the same newspaper as saying, “We want to preserve the status quo on abortion.” Interestingly, there is an editorial in today’s New York Times which calls for total funding of abortion for any reason and at any time during pregnancy, but which also disagrees with what Baucus and Snowe said. Indeed, it explicitly says that Baucus achieved a “compromise” between full funding and no funding.

Here’s what the editorial says: “Health plans could provide abortion coverage provided they used only premium money and co-payments contributed by beneficiaries and kept that money segregated from the subsidy. In every state, there would have to be at least one plan that covers abortions and one that does not.” Thus, the New York Times shows how dishonest Baucus and Snowe are—existing public policy is not anything like that at either the federal or state level. But wait, the Times is also being dishonest when it maintains that by some magical force monies raised from premiums can be “segregated” from the subsidy: money is fungible and that is why the bishops are right to call such schemes a fiction.

It gets worse. Yesterday, Sen. Orrin Hatch introduced an amendment that essentially codifies the status quo, namely, it would ensure that the Hyde Amendment restrictions on federal funds for most abortions remained undisturbed in the proposed health care legislation. And who voted against the status quo? Baucus and Snowe. Consistent in their dishonesty, Baucus and Snowe also voted to kill conscience rights protections for health care workers, all the while maintaining that what they were doing was preserving the status quo. What they were really doing was preserving their place in the Abortion Hall of Shame.

posted by randomfactor on Oct 1, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Copy pasting indeed is fun, John. It makes my work so much simpler

Completely eliminates the need for you ever to have an original thought.

posted by Lingtaowoo on Oct 1, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Oh goody...now we can go back to the days of having an abortion in back of some automotive shop or a station wagon....open up new orphanages...not to mention the women that will either bleed to death or develope infections....

Now the rich and famous don't have to go overseas to adopt...it'll be like going to Von's to shop for the child of their choice....

There is NO tougher CHOICE for a woman to make...I say leave it up to the woman....

Of course-that's just my opinion...

 

posted by pogo on Oct 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM

If males could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrement in the Catholic Church


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