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rightthinking - > Right Thinking -> Governor's advice for immigrants has merit
Governor's advice for immigrants has merit

In his speech at the National Association of Hispanic Journalists convention a few weeks ago. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger had the nerve to suggest Latino immigrants might learn to speak English a little faster if they turned off "the Spanish television set."

The governor was merely saying what many of us already know -- that total immersion is the quickest and best way to learn a new language -- but if the fury unleashed by his remarks is any indication, there are those who find it a radical concept.

The governor's common-sense comments were immediately blasted as "insensitive" by a host of media types, including columnists like my colleague Leonel Martinez, who said in his most recent column that the governor's remarks smacked of "hipocresia."

There is some truth to that, of course. Schwarzenegger, along with every other elected official in America, takes full advantage of the Spanish-language airwaves when it suits his political purpose, airing Spanish-language ads on television and radio and providing Spanish translations of his news releases and speeches on his Website.

Can you imagine the outcry if he didn't? In a state where, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, more than 28 percent of its population speaks Spanish in the home and one in five Californians say they speak English "less than very well?"

The accusations of racism, of exclusionism, would be deafening. They're already out there, on the airwaves and in the press. But, hey, if those offended by Schwarzenegger's "hypocrisy" believe elected officials should do away with government-sponsored bilingual Web sites, voter ballots or education, that's something we can certainly talk about.

Schwarzenegger knew he was setting himself up for some criticism when he made his remarks, but must have been shocked to hear from at least one pundit that his advice "perpetuated the fallacy that, in order to learn English and assimilate, immigrants have to reject their native culture and language."

What nonsense. Schwarzenegger never said anything close to that, but that didn't keep another of the outraged, John Ramirez, a professor of media studies at UCLA, from telling reporters the governor's suggestion was "insensitive and irresponsible" during this "very scary and dangerous time of growing anti-immigration sentiment."

Just to clarify, Mr. Ramirez, nobody has a problem with immigration. It's the illegal immigrants that are causing all the fuss. But I digress.

Schwarzenegger said he rarely spoke German when he came to America, no doubt spurred on, his detractors noted, by the fact that there were few German-speakers around for him to chat with. Some of Schwarzenegger's critics even suggested it was easier for the governor to learn English because he had no other choice. It was assimilate or go hungry. Or go home.

He chose to stay, to learn English, to embrace the many advantages America has to offer and to become the governor of California.

Schwarzenegger is, for better or for worse, the quintessential American dream. Those who would follow in his footsteps would do well to heed his advice.

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posted by rightthinking on Saturday, July 7, 2007 at 10:18 AM
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posted by montfred on Jul 7, 2007 at 10:59 AM
Many  Hispanic immigrants rely on their "Spanish television set."  to stay informed and function in this society.   While I was teaching young Hispanic immigrants in a vocational education setting (funded by a farm-worker act of Congress), I was impressed by the knowledge of current events these students showed as they discussed topics of interest during the ESL portion of the course.

As they learned to assimilate into our society, they stayed informed via their parents and grandparents "Spanish television set."

Those students shared in their experiences, about how they would translate the news to their brothers and sisters using the English language, and it was very rewarding to their entire family unit.

You are so out of touch with the American public on the issue of immigration that it continues to be an embassment to the readers of the fine newspaper you are published by.

You wrote not long ago that, "Indulging in sweeping, negative generalizations about specific people groups makes you a bigot no matter who you are.", it's about the only thing you have ever written that I agree with.
posted by TomW on Jul 7, 2007 at 12:00 PM
But, hey, if those offended by Schwarzenegger's "hypocrisy" believe elected officials should do away with government-sponsored bilingual Web sites, voter ballots or education, that's something we can certainly talk about.

Gosh, I'd love to.  I think it'll be just as good to run ads of his Spanish language websites along side his pandering to the racists. 
posted by montfred on Jul 7, 2007 at 12:25 PM

Gobernador  (I love it)    http://gov.ca.gov/espanol
posted by jblack2005 on Jul 7, 2007 at 03:16 PM
the problem is they dont assimulate if they would put a effort into it then there wouldnt be a problem, come to our neighbohood and see the flags that fly here.
posted by NumberOfTheFallen on Jul 7, 2007 at 04:12 PM
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posted by Katatak on Jul 7, 2007 at 04:46 PM

It is common practice to recommend watching english channels for those who want to learn English.

I have never heard of any students accusing teachers of being racist for recommending TV as a tool to help learn our language. It is very useful, even cartoons for beginners.

I use PBS and CNN documentaries to boost listening, vocabulary, and language abilities on a regular basis.

posted by TomW on Jul 7, 2007 at 05:24 PM
JBlack, I hope you're not referring to Confederate flags and saying that Southerners need to assimilate.
posted by ichibanAmerican on Jul 8, 2007 at 12:27 AM

Too bad many Hispanic leaders consider learning and using English in America a betrayel of their cultural.  If the act of learning English to become a part of America is all it takes to lose your cultural, then I suggest your cultural roots were never very deep, nor do you know anything about who you are/or were in the first place.  I am from Latin (and a few other culturals, as most Americans are from the past, when assimilation was seen as a positive act, and learning English in America a Patriotic act), but I am first of all an American, so I choose to believe that English is my first language and being American my social background. If you ask me what I am, I answer quite simply, an American. The fact that I am from Hispanic roots doesn't make me want to deny my love for the American flag, my love for this great country that gave me the freedom to chose my beliefs, earn a college degree or two, rise as far as I have, and know that America is the best country in the world. If you define yourself and your cultural by clinging to a country that has crooked leaders, rampant poverty, drug lords that rule the country and people who refuse to fight for change, then I guess you should not be in America.  These people need to go home to the great country and save their Mexican language and their precious culture, and leave America alone. We didn't ask you to come here and try to change America in Mexico. I speak some Spanish, but I don't care to watch Spanish broadcasts, or improve my Spanish to live in America.  America is an English Speaking country, and I want it to stay that way, and hope it never becomes like Mexico.

One more thing, I too taught ESL classes to Spanish speaking workers because their company was trying to give them a chance to move up in American society, most of them dropped out and said they did not want to learn English, they felt we (Americans) should learn Spanish if we wanted to deal with them professionally.  I think America is making a big mistake changing our California into an extension of Mexico.  I went to Japan to teach English, and belive me, they aren't learning English to change their country into an English Speaking country, they learn it for business. It was I who had to learn a new language in Japan. If I wanted to live and interact with society in Japan, I had to learn Japanese. I am now semi-fluent in Japanese.  They don't have English Speaking Stations in Japan, just CNN at times. As a teacher, I think we are doing a deserves to the Mexican immigrants for not forcing them to learn English. Hai, so des. Eiego, utskushi. Arigato. Translation? Yes, that is so, English is beautiful, thank you. And finally, the Spanish speaking stations operating in America, should be forced to do public services announcements to teach illegal and legal new Spanish speaking immigrants how to be a good neighbor in America. I am getting tired of the rudeness these people seem to think is part of being in America. They feel it's their right to not obey traffic laws, not be good neighbor, and just ignore good plain, common politeness.  Total immersion works, that is why I learned Japanese and French.  The Governor is right....

El American Senor

posted by samheath on Jul 8, 2007 at 06:07 AM
No amount of sound reasoning is going to prevent the lovers of slave labor from Mexico from calling anyone a "racist" that speaks up for America and the English language.
posted by redkernhero on Jul 8, 2007 at 04:23 PM

Marylee and the Californian still don’t get it. It is not about language it is not about crime, and it is not about assimilation, it is about the” aliens” to our wonderful It seem that Hispanic and Hispanic immigrants like Arnold Schwarzenegger will never r be as good a the recent or former Germanic and other European immigrants who came to this country before it’s standards were lowered by the recent invasion. Germanic aliens from the north European universe have always been superior, from Chicago’s Dutch Shultz to German immigrant who built the quintessential template for WWII German prisons at Andersonville during our on civil war.

It does not matter whether these new aliens learn English or keep their Spanish, all that is irrelevant. Whether they watch Spanish television or English language television will not change their main handicap, they are Hispanic and as Hispanics in our America they are still from a foreign planet and not worth as some of our English language her like Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck and Our own Marylee remind us daily. But beware, the Mexican menace is not going to assimilate, they are attempting to make you assimilate to their culture, something we conservatives will avoid. We will never be caught advertising on a Spanish language, we will buy American fly first, and replace Tacos with Freedom wraps first.

No Governor Schwarzenegger is not a racist, like the honor killers of women in the Middle-East, Schwarzenegger is a victim of his Germanic superior European ancestry history, something we real conservative share with him. Great Guy!!

No, by any way you measure it. These Mexican aliens will never be as good as us, right, Marylee?

 And you are right Sam, no one will stand up for us racist who want to send these slave labor "aliens" back behind the Adobe Curtain, or as we oldtimers call it, the Gringo/Greaser Wall, right Sam.

posted by redkernhero on Jul 8, 2007 at 04:51 PM
El American Senor? perhaps wannabe whitey is more accurate. We don't need apologies for what we are or who we are, but feel free to play the French roll, this is America. you hear?
posted by NumberOfTheFallen on Jul 9, 2007 at 07:10 AM
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