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rightthinking - > Right Thinking -> What tops holiday list? Parents who keep an eye on kids
What tops holiday list? Parents who keep an eye on kids

I had promised myself I wasn't going to join the post-Thanksgiving melee at local shops and malls, but a burned-out strand of Christmas lights forced me into the fray.

Elbowing my way through the crush at one local store, I came across a little girl of about 7 or 8 who looked up at me with wide, trusting eyes and said, "I can't find my dad."

No worries, I assured the girl as we walked to the nearest counter, where a store clerk notified the dad via the store's loudspeaker that his child was waiting.

Father and daughter were reunited several minutes later -- no harm, no foul -- but I believe I speak for store managers everywhere when I say, parents, keep your kids close. Stores, clerks and customers are not baby sitters.

It's easy for kids and parents to become separated in stores, especially during the hectic holiday season. But parents who allow their young children to roam store aisles so they can shop in peace are courting trouble.

Moms and dads who believe their children are safe in shops and malls simply because there happens to be a lot of people around are not only clinging to a false sense of security, they're abdicating their parental responsibility to those who have better things to do.

Store clerks shouldn't have to break up impromptu soccer games in the sporting goods aisle, stand guard over the LEGOs display or scrape Play-Doh off the floor.

Customers shouldn't have to reprimand any children but their own and no one should have to read in the paper about a child who was kidnapped or molested while her parents Christmas shopped elsewhere.

It doesn't happen often, but it happens.

Kidnapping by strangers is relatively rare -- there were 46 such cases reported in California last year, according to Department of Justice figures -- but that's no reason for parents to get careless, especially at crowded shopping malls or public celebrations, said Carina Ortiz, community relations specialist with the Bakersfield Police Department.

"The stores are inundated with people right now, so it's actually the worst time for parents to leave their kids by themselves in stores," Ortiz said. "With a population of over 300,000 we're not a small town anymore. Parents need to be aware, make safety rules and stick to them."

That means teaching kids to stay with Mom and Dad at all times when shopping and having a meeting place already picked out in case they do get separated.

Clothing that displays the child's name should remain at home and young children should never be left alone in toy stores or other public places for store personnel to supervise, Ortiz said.

Parents might also want to reconsider the seemingly growing practice of dropping older children, ages 11 to 14, off at Valley Plaza, especially in the wake of a shooting inside there last December that left one 19-year-old man dead.

Donna Berlin, general manager of the mall, said an in-house security team and Bakersfield police officers do their best to monitor the crowds but, with a traffic flow of 15 million shoppers annually, cannot "be all places at all times."

"Malls have always been a drop-off place for children, starting at all kinds of ages," Berlin said. "If we see children in the mall we think are too young, we get involved in that, but parents need to attend to their children. It only takes a second."

Parents, nobody loves your children the way you do and nobody is going to watch them as well as you can.

Give yourselves and your fellow shoppers a break this Christmas -- have fun shopping, but keep your kids close.

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posted by anonymous on Nov 28, 2006 at 11:09 AM

The quality of Bakersfield shopping centers is determined by their proximity to ghettos.  The further undesirables have to walk, the more pleasant the shopping center.  Responsible people, of all income strata,  do not use a mall as a babysitter.  Those who do, are much too busy with tattooing themselves or drinking, to properly supervise their many offspring. 

The mall should turn away unaccompanied children under a certain age; let's say under 8, to start. 

Begin howling now.

posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 28, 2006 at 11:24 AM
People let kids under 8 cruise around in the mall unattended? I've never seen it myself. Honestly if the kid is under 8, security should find their parents. The kid would most likely be scared.
posted by TomW on Nov 28, 2006 at 11:40 AM
I can't believe that someone would take a young kid to something like that without keeping physical contact with them.  As for the proximity to ghettos, I assume anny mean poor areas, not actual ghettos.
posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 28, 2006 at 12:04 PM
I think anny is just making it up to ruffle feathers.

I could say something about people with big trucks or SUVs shouldn't be allowed to park close to any store or mall because they're a nusance and don't fit in most parking spaces, but I won't.
posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 28, 2006 at 01:14 PM
erik, if we didn't know you were gay (not that there's anything wrong with it) before, this really says it all.
"I get so sick of people dragging their kids around like they were in some mobile daycare."

Some of us "breeders" actually like taking our kids places. I guess you think they should all be home watching television and getting fat?
posted by mattloch on Nov 28, 2006 at 01:18 PM
Can someone please define for me what "ghetto" (people, i.e. "undesirables") look like?
posted by anglo1 on Nov 28, 2006 at 01:33 PM
With the proliferation of gangs throughout the U.S. Kern Co. and Bako seems to be a real hotbed of activity .Maybe the Mall Police should start a gang "profile" [ I know how ugly and impossible it is for some to grasp] program for entrance to the Mall.  The S.O. does it at the Fair and it seems to have had good results.  If you need to know how to identify a gangbanger just ask any High School security officer, P.D. officer or probation officer.  Maybe, Isaid, Maybe.
posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 28, 2006 at 01:45 PM
I don't know mattloch, Mucus hasn't put a picture up yet.
posted by mattloch on Nov 28, 2006 at 02:48 PM
Ok Erik. I'm guessing you mean this:  Of course, the "undesirable" I think of doesn't bother with the small change in your wallet; he'd much rather mug your retirement funds..... But I'm sure names like "Death Star", "Chewco", "Get Shorty", etc. weren't all "Kenny-boy's" ideas. And I'm certain their vacation homes didn't take up any extra space above and beyond what was completely necessary. But... their suits were all well-tailored, and they all had seperate coporate jets, so I guess they don't fall under your definition, at least 100%. ("One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter", eh?) "Undesirable", huh? Guess it's time to dust off the plans for "Soylent Green"......
posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 28, 2006 at 03:48 PM
Erik, I truly thank you from the bottom of my bleeding heart that you don't go around with your ass exposed. That's something I don't want to see or smell. I actually think it's good for the fat kids to be at the mall. They're getting excercise walking around. I'm thinking you should do more online shopping. Heck, at least you could find a decent pair of shoes, unlike valley plaza.
posted by TomW on Nov 28, 2006 at 04:00 PM
Talk about people who look like they want to mug you, I worked as a repo man for a rent-to-own place and had to repo a VCR from one of the security guys at the mall.  (This is back when VCRs were worth something.)  He had that "I'm going to mug you" look.  Of course, as a repo man, I had the "I'm going to kill you slowly, for fun" look, so we must have made everyone real happy as I stalked him around the mall.
posted by anglo1 on Nov 28, 2006 at 04:15 PM
Repo man?  I've just gained more respect for  you TomW.  One of my fellow FF used to do it part time and man you guys could write a great book.  He absolutely loved taking items from the "better" people.  Kenny wouldn't worry me too much in a mall unless I see him this week.
posted by AudreyB on Nov 28, 2006 at 06:58 PM

Have any of you ever lost a child in a store?  Well I'll step up to the plate and admit that I have.  It's a terrifying experience.

My youngest daughter was always a shy, obediant child who never gave me cause for alarm in public.  She never threw tantrums or had crying jags.  I was pretty  happy with her except for one naughty trick she pulled, twice, in Sears.

She thought it was funny to  pull away from my hand and crawl beneath the clothes racks.  It only took a moment or two for her to totally disappear.

I frantically crawled after her beneath the racks  but she was long gone.   I naturally  freaked out and began running up and down the mall screaming her name.     Visions of her being led off by a pervert or run over in the parking lot caused me to run faster,  scream louder and start blubbering.  By the time I got to the point of tearing out my hair and demanding that all the exits be manned by armed security guards,  my sister's voice suggesting we back track to the toy store reached me.

Sure enougth, there she was surrounded by several clerks.  She had turned herself in to Toys R Us.

The next time she took a powder, I swooned and then remembered the toy store.  There she was again!   However, that time convinced me that she was a repeat offender and I swore I'd  never take her to the mall again.  Which I didn't.

Rose was quite an escape artist.  She got lost at Disneyland when it was filled to the rafters with Japanese tourists.  I always disliked Disneyland so it was easy for me to say I'd never go back there again.  I've kept my word  for 20 years.

posted by cheeksmck on Nov 28, 2006 at 07:18 PM
There is nothing like the comments of anon and eric to put me in a cheerful mood. I will tell you having worked for a law enforcement agency and in retail for years, that people of all social and economic backgrounds use malls as babysitters. A lot of those darling little skateboarders that use our cars to "grind" on, live in Seven Oaks. Iv'e seen shoplifters and thugs of all types. People don't fool yourselves into believing that the only kids causing trouble in a shopping center are black or hispanic. Because just when you are keeping your eagle eye on them, the little tow head is stealing your purse.
posted by NancyII on Nov 28, 2006 at 07:18 PM
I lost my grandson at Penny's in College Center once.  SAme thing.  Playing around the clothes racks.  Kids just seems to think that's boatloads os fun.  Mine popped out after me yelling for him and grinned "Here I am Nana".  It was the last time he ever did that.  And the last time he could sit comfortably for a spell.
posted by AudreyB on Nov 28, 2006 at 07:42 PM

Nancy

Cat got lost at Sprouse Reitz  (sp?) when she was  four.  I was at  the back of the store looking at curtains and she was right behind me.  When I turned around...... no Cat.   I ran back and forth down the back of the store, thinking she can't have gotten far.

Finally I gave up went to the front of the store to ask for help.    There was Cat sitting on a clerks lap talking to the manager.   They both looked very angy and asked me, "Where WERE you".  I told them, I was running around the back of the store looking for Cat.  They said, "Oh Yeah, well your daughter said she saw you get in the car and drive off. "  My jaw dropped about a foot and I said Whaaaat??  I reminded them that they had both just seen me walk up from the back of the store.  They mumbled something about almost calling the cops but didn't stop me when I hustled us out of there. .  When we got to the car I asked her, "Catherine why  did you tell those people I drove off without you?"  She said,  "I thought you did".   End of story.

 PS Cat doesn't like this story so I don't  tell it often.

 

posted by NancyII on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:45 PM
LOL..oh my Audrey.  After meeting Cat I can almost see that scene.  And I can see why she doesn't like it told.  Too funny.
posted by mocus1 on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:46 PM
Fatt-Koch......what does an undesirable look like?.........why, a white guy with a feces-eating grin on his face and a pipe hanging out of his mouth,of course !............we're talking about the social detritus who bring their kids to a store, then abandon them in the toy department like it's a retail day care or something..........the urchins then proceed to throw merchandise all over the floor, run up and down the aisles screaming, and generally ruining the shopping experience for everyone !........of course, we expect this kind of behavior from the uneducated, uncouth gutter rats who reproduce on your welfare farms in Southeast Bakersfield..........civilized people certainly don't do this kind thing, but who said these people are civilized?..........
posted by mocus1 on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:52 PM

At least Ken Lay had the decency to die of a heart attack, Fatt-Kock...........could you do us all a favor and do the same?......we won't miss your lame-ass posts, equating corporate raiders with mall rats.............those are really great (not)..............

posted by anonymous on Nov 28, 2006 at 10:22 PM

There is nothing racial about the word "ghetto".  I believe it means an area where all the money is spent elsewhere. 

Consider this.  I delivered gas for years.  There are no gas stations in what is traditionally the black area of town.  Ask yourself why. 

posted by anonymous on Nov 29, 2006 at 08:42 AM
2885.
posted by ProgressivePete2 on Nov 29, 2006 at 08:43 AM
anon, you know things are bad when you're getting shot at by both sides of a civil war.
posted by randomfactor on Nov 29, 2006 at 02:07 PM
Wait'll tomorrow, when we pick a side.
posted by anonymous on Nov 30, 2006 at 05:23 PM
2887.
posted by anonymous on Dec 1, 2006 at 11:14 AM
2888.
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