Get over it...... you homo-phobes lost..........Lets worry about the budget shortfall or the economy or anything that is actually important.

How about sticking to the topic at hand instead of stooping to personal attacks?  Marylee, you are absolutely correct, and bold for making such a statement, but you will be hated for that position.  Those who are prejudiced against you don't understand the concept of protecting the traditional definition of marraige, while upholding the rights of gay people and extending love and kindness to them (following the commandment to love our neighbor as ourselves). 

So instead of making even the slightest effort to understand your position, they will simply resort to cheap shots, and ad hominem attacks.  Prove me wrong folks.  Come out with actual intelligent points of debate. 

In the beginning, I thought the whole controversy  was a perfect example of stupidity.

Considering that Texas has its hands full with a religious commune that allows child rape as long as it's called marriage, perhaps the definition of "marriage" should be nailed down and explicit.

I knew when this ruling came down that it was just the sort of low-hanging fruit you like to pick--complete with junior-high-ish one-sentence paragraphing and links to the right-wing Heritage Foundation to prop up your misguided outrage.  Apparently you and the Heritage Foundation believe marriage is supposed to be about the "relationship between fathers, mothers, and children" huh?   So sterile or elderly heterosexuals, I guess, shouldn't be allowed to marry because no children could result?  Lovely.  What religion advocates that?

And for crying out loud, please enroll in a good high school government course that will explain to you what the judicial branch's job is in this country:  to interpret the laws.  You and I have every right to vote, but when we vote for something that violates the Constitution, the Constitution trumps our wishes.  Founding Father Alexander Hamilton in Federalist Paper #78 wrote, "wherever a particular statute contravenes the Constitution, it will be the duty of the judicial tribunals to adhere to the latter and disregard the former."  In other words, just because lots of folks like an idea, it's not necessarily legal--which is why Supreme Court decisions like Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education had to come along in the Civil Rights era to abolish the legal practice of separate-but-equal facilities in the segregated South.  The South was pissed, but don't you agree that the Constitution's guarantees of equality take precedence over what racist southerners approved of?

It's too early in the morning for me to have to work this hard trying to straighten out your reasoning.  Jeesh.

Well heck a lot of folks like to square dance Ms.Shrider~"reeling" ,get it? As in Virgina Reel?

Sorry but we have done this topic to death,and once more I will simply say~~~Love! Hurray LOVE has won the day! The last time that happened they promptly nailed him to the cross.

Some people think that Gay marriage cheapens ''marriage''......I think the straight people that get married and divorced 3,4,5 times is what cheapens marriage. I think the people that cheats on their wives, husbands are what cheapens marriage....and many of you have cheated on your spouses. Clean your own side of the street first.

"anything that is actually important" gube.... Bakersfield......important is not in the vocabulary...try Pickup truck, beer,buck Owens,hispanics,blacks, hej that is in the vocabulary....important, no way------

Maggie you forgot Merle Haggard...............you can't forget Merle!

Where you been, Mag?

What Shrider lacks the ability to understand is that the vast majority of gays and lesbians aren't ignorant enough to believe in this "God" nonsense, and therefore care nothing about any "blessing."

We're so blessed that Maggie deigns to bring her sophisticated ennui to our little blogosphere.

Do you have something against Buck Owens, Maggiepoo?  Thems fightin' words! :)

Why Way,is that some sort of personal attack against those who do not agree with you? I am shocked,shocked I say, to see there is gambling going on here!

Gube...Merle is not dead yet....he left here but they love him? strange ones here in the timewarp....

Buck sucked, little do you know newcomer wannabe Broll, Don was a different story but didn`t reap the Riches he was entitled...get it?

When he left, he left a treasure of songs that touch our hearts and move our souls.  That's where the love comes in.  He can live wherever he wants to live.  Maybe his lungs can't handle the smog on top of everything else they've had to deal with. 

Now, back on topic, vocabulary and literary style---these are legitimate, if you can back up your criticisms and they are constructive.  But for those who voice this criticism, isn't it just a diversion away from why you really go after her---because her views are so different to those of your own? 

Buck sucked, little do you know newcomer wannabe Broll, Don was a different story but didn`t reap the Riches he was entitled...get it?

If, by wannabe, you mean I wannabe better than I am now, you are absolutely correct.  There is room for improvement in all of us.  There was for Buck, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a profound influence on country music, that he didn't help to shape a new sound, and that he wasn't talented.  He was immensely talented in many ways. 

Conservatives believe that allowing gays to enter into marriage somehow infringes on their rights and cite tenuous examples of the fallout (some obscure wedding photographer sued for being a bigot...) 

Then they champion legislation which would strip constitutional rights in an immediate and conrete manner from select groups without any sense of irony.

Intellectual rigor isn't a prerequisite for any number of blue collar professions, but wouldn't one expect more from a columnist? 

Not here in the timewarp Patch...gotta go about 4-5 hours north for a real conversation

Gube...Merle is not dead yet....he left here but they love him? strange ones here in the timewarp....

Maggie niggers and wetbacks are still alive and thriving in Bakersfield so I don't understand your comment..............And by the way I love old Merle......

Tee Hee

Little Phew  thinks the word Timewarp is still in vogue.  I guess she didn't get the phone call

just commenting on what is considered "important" vocabulary in the Patch, Try asking anyone on the street the meaning and philosophy of "Muslim", Our country is crumbling and the BushCo wants us to believe that they are the evil enemy, but  the masses know nothing of these people or thier religion which was around long before the present day revised and edited Christian industry.

Guess what Phew

Even people in Bakersfield have access to college classes in sociology and other related social sciences.  We get the History Channel, The Discovery Channel, A&E and  PBS.  There are planes, roads and rails leading out of here to all parts in the world.  Almost everyone I know has used one to explore the world.

We don't live in a bubble.  You're lack of insight and understanding of Bakersfield and it's citizens is your problem, not ours. 

As I told you before, most people are too smart to live in a place they despise.  What's your excuse?

Amen, Audrey! 

I see Bush has blood on his face, Maggiepoo.  Must be left over from the blood, sweat and tears he's put into protecting the United States from further terrorist attacks :)  And to keep with the topic at hand, he's also done a lot to voice support for the preservation of the definition of marraige as between a man and a woman. 

No blonroll it the Blood of all the Innocent women and children that he killed in the unjust war with Iraq.....................And the blood from our men and women fighting and dying for this unjust war..............get it right !

The caption is" The puppet saw what he had done and cried", can`t see the tear but it`s there

There has been blood spilled in this war that should not have been spilled.  Most of that blood can be traced to terrorists.  Some of it has to do with poor strategy and poorly executed strategy.  Some of it may have to do with the launching of the war itself. 

Perhaps it was the wrong war at the wrong time.  But have you ever shown any moral outrage over the innocent blood spilled in suicide attacks or the innocent blood spilled as a result of the cruel commands of Saddam Hussein? 

So  Maggiepoo, you're suggesting that Bush is not so evil as he is often depicted.  You are suggesting he's capable of remorse.  And, by reference to him being a puppet, are you suggesting that he was not acting on his own accord, and, therefore, should not be held responsible for his actions? 

Saddam’s Exile Deal Could Have Saved $6 Trillion

How did we get from a “profitable” war against Iraq to a $6 trillion swirling black hole that threatens to flush the United States and the world down the drain? Follow the dollars. Follow the lies:

One month before the invasion of Iraq, Spanish Prime Minister José María Aznar met with President Bush in Crawford, Tex., Feb. 22, 2003, to beg him, on behalf of European leaders, not to start a war.

The Egyptians made a deal with Saddam Hussein to go into exile to avoid a devastating war against Iraq. Saddam wanted a payment of $1 billion and, for insurance, to keep all the information about how the neocons had supplied him with his weapons of mass destruction. Bush quipped that sending Saddam into exile would save the American people $50 billion for the costs of the war.

That “$50 billion” was a lie. White House economic adviser Lawrence Lindsey was fired in 2002 for daring to predict the war might cost $200 billion.

Paul Wolfowitz, deputy secretary of defense, testified to Congress on March 27, 2003 that oil revenue from Iraq would pay for the Iraq war. “The oil revenues of [Iraq] could bring between $50 billion and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years,” he said. “We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon.”

When Wolfowitz and the neocons were peddling the tale that Iraqi oil would lower the price of gas, oil was selling for around $20-25 per barrel.

Five years after “mission accomplished,” it is over $100 per barrel and gasoline is $3.50 and more per gallon and rising—as the value of the dollar plummets.

This is great for oil companies reaping record billion dollar profits. The House of Saud and the House of Bush, along with the contractors (and of course Israel), are the only beneficiaries of this war.

http://www.americanfreepres...

No to tell you the truth if they want to kill each other , I say let them. It's their world let them be................But for us to go to Iraq and bomb the f--k out a country that bearly fought back was wrong.  For gods sake they had their whole air force burred under the sand......... Sorry but I believe that our military is responsible for a hell of alot of innocent Iraqi lives then you want to believe...But to answer your question ...I don't care if they kill each other......

Maggiepoo ....you are flat wrong.

You think your a real wordsmith and show intelligence but your really like a child playing with matches.

1.) Christianity was in place for 1300 years prior to the Mohammad's Islam. 2.) The books that make up the Bible were written well prior to Islam's Koran. 3.) The accepted teachings of Jesus Christ are the same today as they were 2000 years ago.

There are many adherents to 4200 different religions worldwide. If you want to know more about this go to http://www.adherents.com/Re... and read.  Don't be a hateful and judgemental person, educate yourself lest you look hateful and ignorant. 

I would suggest that if we want to go this far into the subject of the war, it would be better to discuss that under a separate blog thread. 

Okie dokie

He was (is) Pres of BushCo, he has to answer to the company and they want profits and he gave them profits, It`s up to you to judge if that is evil or not... he gave up golf for the troops ..sure he shows remorse 

I`m banned and censored so you have to start it, someone tattled on me to the big censor guy

I believe this is the resurgence of a Panfollio/RedKernHero  type person,IMHO .Here to salt the waters,not much else.

Marylee, you're back. I love you. You're like family!  You remind me of my staunch Christian fundamentalist uncle that doesn't use reason in justifying his beliefs.

First, the people who "are sill reeling from the courts 4-3 decision" are lucky that they don't have to worry about finding a well paying job, health benefits, and high gas prices.

Slippery slop is a logical fallacy. I hate to break this to you how wikipaedia defines sloppery slipe.

"In debate or rhetoric, the slippery slope is one of the classical informal fallacies. It suggests that an action will initiate a chain of events culminating in an undesirable event later without establishing or quantifying the relevant contingencies....The term "slippery slope" is often used synonymically with continuum fallacy, in that it assumes there is no gray area and there must be a definite transition at a certain point from category A to category B.

And the Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank just because someone wrote an article about it doesn't mean it is right.

Have a good day! :)

Mostly Russky: "And for crying out loud, please enroll in a good high school government course that will explain to you what the judicial branch's job is in this country:  to interpret the laws.  You and I have every right to vote, but when we vote for something that violates the Constitution, the Constitution trumps our wishes.  Founding Father Alexander Hamilton in Federalist Paper #78 wrote, "wherever a particular statute contravenes the Constitution, it will be the duty of the judicial tribunals to adhere to the latter and disregard the former."  In other words, just because lots of folks like an idea, it's not necessarily legal--which is why Supreme Court decisions like Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education had to come along in the Civil Rights era to abolish the legal practice of separate-but-equal facilities in the segregated South.  The South was pissed, but don't you agree that the Constitution's guarantees of equality take precedence over what racist southerners approved of?"
 

Mattloch, that's so cool--Orson Welles himself (I think?) giving me a hand!  I'm honored.

*doffs hat, bows, scurries offstage*

 BAKO BLOGGER - CHASE BROCKETT POSES THE QUESTION, "WHAT WOULD ROPER DO?"
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maggie is a former blogger who was here for just a short time before getting suspended for the same shenegans as  he's been pulling here lately.  His days are numbered, people like him always self destruct.

:-) Nancy~ It was you who brought my attention to such,Thanks

look to MA, the state recognizes same-sex marriage for the past 4 years. MA has the lowest divorce rate in the nation. No one has been forced into a same-sex marriage, attend a same-sex marriage, perform a same-sex marriage.  This does not affect st8 marriage in any way shape or form. This does deny anyone their religious views.

Wow man you guys are un freakin real...disappointed in some.. amazed by others... and not surprised by the majority. Except for a few posts I feel like Im swimming in a cesspool of humanity .. 

Some of you dont even live in our town so ya might think about gathering up your bad attitudes and go rant privately amongst yourselves because you wont change a true blue hetro's mind into accepting your life style by posting nasty comments on a blog.

I know Gay couples that do their own thing ..and through a number of one on one conversations.. admit that gays that jump up and down trying to shove their gayness down other peoples throats are an embarrassement to the gay community..The outspoken type do it more for the shock value and the look at me Im so smart and kewl aspect than really caring about what they are arguing over..They just love the attention.

I think blogs like this need to relax for awhile and not give them the attention they crave so badly. Maybe they will puff up and blow away...

 

In agreement with you, Chong.

{cough} Chong

From Cheech (chico)......

Right on bruthuh..... {cough}

It is attention these cabesa nudillos crave

Cut that supply off and they'll dry up like pasture ground off Hwy 155

Gee......... isn't Mattlock the intellectual one?

{cough} Orson had his own zip code at the end.........

"Judicial Tyranny"???  Aren't we being a tad bit dramatic?  Judicial tyranny is when a judge kicks you out of your house because he/she feels like it.  Judicial tyranny is when the law tells you you can only have one child or marry in your race.  Judicial tyranny is a man being hung or lynched, by the powers-that-be,  even though he did nothing wrong. 

Gay people are Americans, too.  They are entitled to protection by law.  They didn't sign away their constitutional rights when they came out.   What are you so afraid of?  Gay people have been cohabitating, in this country, since it was founded.  Did these people come into your house and demand that you watch them have gay sex?  No.  Did they tell you to find a woman?  No.  Did they tell you how to have sex with your husband? No!  What gives you the right to deny them their civil rights as human beings? 

Because its not natural..do you see same sex animals singelin one another out doin the nasty ..and im not talkin about just bumpin and grindin air..even they have more sense...

I apologize for being so verbally graphic but theres no other way to put it..I breed horse here ..collect and artificailly inseminate all by my lonesome so Ive found talkin straight to describe somethin to a bystander is the shortest route.

passin it...ur hit Chico *cough*