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New Orleans~a moment of silence for all we lost that day. Two years later.....we should be ashamed. 64 comments from 16 users
posted by
robbwillis
on Aug 29, 2007 at 02:11 PM
I'm not ashamed.
posted by
ghostriter
on Aug 29, 2007 at 02:12 PM
No sage. WE should not be ashamed. The current federal administration should be MORTIFIED for allowing our own citizens to blow in the wind while federal money and priorities are spent elsewhere. When Katrina hit, I was going to go to New Orleans to help, given that I have medical training, but my husband and son strenuously objected, so I stayed here and watched from the sidelines. I have regretted not going since.
posted by
sagefever
on Aug 29, 2007 at 02:13 PM
I am ,but for clarity, I ashamed of my governments lack of governing
posted by
sagefever
on Aug 29, 2007 at 02:39 PM
At the end of the second youtube clip there are two organizations that one can connect with, they still need volunteers. I wanted to go also ghost,but same deal here..Mr. Sage and Sage's BF felt I was not ready yet for volunteering. Just like after the tsunami hit, it was the looks on the peoples face's and the rocking back and forth...how many times I found myself doing that after my second son died, that made me want to help.
posted by
mattloch
on Aug 29, 2007 at 02:42 PM
Yea well, when (you) elect people who claim that government cannot work properly, are we all that surprised when they prove themselves correct?This should be the Dem's election slogan for '08. "Elect us. We want the government to work." posted by
JesusSmokedABowl
on Aug 29, 2007 at 02:55 PM
Good one.
posted by
johnburnssucks
on Aug 29, 2007 at 03:07 PM
They were warned ahead of time that a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane was coming, but this all-pride-and-no-brains bunch chose to stick to their "We don't evacuate" motto. Then, when boats tried to get to the blacks that were stranded, every single time armed black males commandeered the boats to use for looting. After seven or eight tries with the same result, the rescuers gave up. I certainly was not ashamed. I adopted a homeless gray kitty and named her Katrina. Fattened her up in no time. posted by
mattloch
on Aug 29, 2007 at 03:19 PM
Except that evacuating was not an option for those without cars. And couldn't afford airplane tickets (assuming they could even find an open seat leaving town). And busses stopped running a few days before.Care to link to the stories where "every single time" rescue boats were commandeered for looting, johnburnssucks? I've never heard that before now. Occasionally coming under fire, yes. Occasionally commandeered because they were about to pass up people who needed help, yes. But never for looting. Certainly not "every single time". I'm surprised you didn't post a picture of "Lootie" to make your post complete. posted by
Charlie3
on Aug 29, 2007 at 03:20 PM
Who is we, you got a mouse in your pocket ? it's not your fault or mine or Bush's. The blame starts at the state level with the Gov. of LA and the mayor of NO. The constituents didn't help much either.
This should be the Dem's election slogan for '08. "Elect us. We want the government to work." Thats a lala land crock of crap. They have had more than ample opportunity to make things work over the years and never succeeded yet. The only thing they have given us is more and more liberal failures. We are up to our necks in the failures of liberalism why would we want anymore. posted by
robbwillis
on Aug 29, 2007 at 03:24 PM
Let's not forget to put the blame at the very highest level like Pax did. Katrina was God's punishment for New Orleans' wicked ways.
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mattloch
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mattloch
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posted by
sagefever
on Aug 29, 2007 at 03:49 PM
Thanks Mattloch~some people are so ridiculous I hardly have the patience to respond,I feel for that poor cat. Charlie as much as I dislike it on ocasion "we" includes you & john and the rest of the coutry...the United States.
posted by
mattloch
on Aug 29, 2007 at 04:26 PM
Charlie3: " it's not your fault or mine or Bush's. The blame starts at the state level with the Gov. of LA and the mayor of NO. "You'd better check the timeline before saying patently foolish statements. Much of the blame for the failure lies with Bush and Chertoff (and a lesser degree "Brownie"). Blanco and Nagin have some responsibility as well, but with a disaster that size, the feds are really the only ones that can handle it. (That's ignoring the fed's responsibility to make sure it didn't happen in the first place, but that just gets off track.) "The constituents didn't help much either. " Blaming the victims. That's a great strategy. Why not make that the Republican's '08 slogan? "Ignore The Poor" posted by
OldBlue56
on Aug 29, 2007 at 05:42 PM
Wait a minute. I pay my homeowners insurance every year to cover fire, theft, flood, and earthquake incidents. You mean to say that if I quit paying the premiums, the Feds will step in during a disaster and rebuild everything I lost? Wow, I have been wasting my money all these years.
posted by
Charlie3
on Aug 29, 2007 at 06:36 PM
Matt and Sage,
The epitome of the nanny state mentality. How absurd. And sage, I like it that you dislike it so please don't include me in any more incoherent ramblings. And you do not speak for the country or any other group I can think of. posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 29, 2007 at 06:38 PM
You got it blue. No need for house insurance, car insurance, life insurance, etc. If something happens to you, the goverment will be there to save you. Hell, you don't even need a job or be a citizen....Quite the deal
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 29, 2007 at 06:41 PM
New Orleans~a moment of silence for all we lost that day. Two years later.....we should be ashamed. Why should I be ashamed??? Billions of federal dollars have been pumped into the New Orleans area. And what have the locals done with it?? At what point are they going to be held accountable?? Or will they retain their victim status forever?? posted by
tkozy
on Aug 29, 2007 at 07:17 PM
You've done a hecka of a job Mexico! Mission accomplished..
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 29, 2007 at 08:11 PM
I hear Ray Nagin is doing a heck of a job making sure New Orleans is a "Chocolate Town". I hear he just got a shipment of 1000 new yellow school busses... That ought to come in handy during the next hurricane "evacuation" LOL...
posted by
mattloch
on Aug 29, 2007 at 08:44 PM
OldBlue: "Wait a minute. I pay my homeowners insurance every year to cover fire, theft, flood, and earthquake incidents. You mean to say that if I quit paying the premiums, the Feds will step in during a disaster and rebuild everything I lost? Wow, I have been wasting my money all these years."If you live in Bakersfield and the Isabella Dam breaks, then yes. Because you had an assumption that the federal government built the thing to last. And if you think that having insurance would mean you got paid for losing your house, then you obviously haven't been following the situation. Charlie: "The epitome of the nanny state mentality. How absurd." Sure. Because taking care of citizens who don't have the money, resources, or ability to take care of themselves is so un-American. Screw the poor, right? Let the weak take a hike. Huddle together, masses; it makes it easier for me to kick you in one swipe. How very compassionate of you. Psychopath. posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 29, 2007 at 08:56 PM
So, should we take care of people who are perfectly capable of working, but simply choose not to?? Should we take care of them?? SO if my 30 year old son decides he doesn't want to work for a living, but sit in the basement and blog on the computer, the compasionate thing for me to do is go back to work and support him?? Is that the way this country should operate?? Or should I join him in his bloggings and demand that the rich people in this country pay for his health care so he doesn't have to get a job?? posted by
johnburnssucks
on Aug 29, 2007 at 09:51 PM
Care to link to the stories where "every single time" rescue boats were commandeered for looting, johnburnssucks? I've never heard that before now. Occasionally coming under fire, yes. Occasionally commandeered because they were about to pass up people who needed help, yes. But never for looting. Certainly not "every single time". The incidents that I wrote about were based on reports from wildlife rangers. Two rangers went in each boat, and what I described is what the rangers said happened. I do not have a link because I did not read it on the internet; I did not have a computer two years ago. I wrote it down when Anderson Cooper reported it on CNN right after Katrina. A team of paramedics was barred from entering Slidell (a suburb of New Orleans) for nearly 10 hours based on a state troopers report that gun-wielding black marauders had commandeered boats. Mark Williams on Hurricane Katrina: "The Left's experiment in training Americans to be passive and expect the government to do absolutely everything for them has been overwhelmingly successful in creating an infantile mindset, with the result being that in New Orleans and entire segment of the population, mostly black - the Left's guinea pigs in this endeavor - apparently no longer have the requisite brains and common sense to get out of the way of a Category 5 hurricane." posted by
mattloch
on Aug 29, 2007 at 10:43 PM
Johnburnssucks: "in New Orleans and entire segment of the population, mostly black - the Left's guinea pigs in this endeavor - apparently no longer have the requisite brains and common sense to get out of the way of a Category 5 hurricane." "Again, why not just post the picture of "Lootie" and leave it at that, you racist POS. (I know you didn't "say" the above quotation, but you re-printed it, which shows what you think very well.) By the way, I didn't think you could find a single story saying that. Thanks for proving me right yet again. posted by
mattloch
on Aug 29, 2007 at 10:49 PM
Ronm: "if my 30 year old son decides he doesn't want to work for a living, but sit in the basement and blog on the computer, the compasionate thing for me to do is go back to work and support him?? Is that the way this country should operate?? Or should I join him in his bloggings and demand that the rich people in this country pay for his health care so he doesn't have to get a job??"If your 30-year old son gets struck by a car through no fault of his own, I would expect you to not go and help him. All the better if he doesn't have health insurance, I would expect you to tell him to go "suck on the government's tit" for health care. And if he loses his job and house and possibly goes bankrupt because of it, I would expect you to change your locks and not allow him to stay with you. I would also expect him to get a little pissed at your uncaring attitude, too. But that may just be me, projecting........ posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 29, 2007 at 10:52 PM
Calm down Mattloch. Ray Nagin is on the case.. He is going to make sure New Orleans is a "Chocolate" town once again... An he is ready for the next hurricane. He gots him some brand new skool buses he is fixin to use to bus his town outta danger.. posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 29, 2007 at 10:56 PM
I raise my kids to leave the nest when they graduate from college... I raise my kids to be self sufficient functioning adults, not dependent perpetual adolescents who never grow up and take responsibility for their lives..
posted by
mattloch
on Aug 29, 2007 at 11:03 PM
Ronm: "Ray Nagin is on the case.. He is going to make sure New Orleans is a "Chocolate" town once again... An he is ready for the next hurricane. He gots him some brand new skool buses he is fixin to use to bus his town outta danger.." Ronmexico Comedian Extraordinaire posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 29, 2007 at 11:06 PM
We's just gotsa find us some bus drivers now.....Can't be havin our bus drivers boogy outa town before they get a full load a passenjers in muh bran new skool busses.. posted by
myxlnt1
on Aug 30, 2007 at 01:53 AM
Ron,remember all those buses,under water,that should have driven all those people out of town? The bus drivers were in their Mont e Carlos and gone.
posted by
ronmexico
on Aug 30, 2007 at 07:22 AM
They were trying to beat the policemen out of town.. posted by
johnburnssucks
on Aug 30, 2007 at 07:54 AM
Again, why not just post the picture of "Lootie" and leave it at that, you racist POS. (I know you didn't "say" the above quotation, but you re-printed it, which shows what you think very well.) The truth is often painful. Sorry you don't like it. posted by
mattloch
on Aug 30, 2007 at 08:37 AM
johnburnssucks: "The truth is often painful. Sorry you don't like it."The statement you quoted was so wrong on so many different levels, it is astonishing to me that you find nothing wrong with it. Trying to explain it all to you would take too much time, and I have a feeling it would be a complete waste to try to talk to such an ignorant racist bigot such as yourself. posted by
mattloch
on Aug 30, 2007 at 08:40 AM
Ronm: "We's just gotsa find us some bus drivers now.....Can't be havin our bus drivers boogy outa town before they get a full load a passenjers in muh bran new skool busses..They were trying to beat the policemen out of town.." Boy, you are so funny, you should take your show on the road. Let me offer you a plane ticket to do your blackface show in NOLA, where they would really appreciate it. I have a feeling that it would only need to be a one-way ticket...... posted by
johnburnssucks
on Aug 30, 2007 at 08:50 AM
The statement you quoted was so wrong on so many different levels, it is astonishing to me that you find nothing wrong with it. Trying to explain it all to you would take too much time, and I have a feeling it would be a complete waste to try to talk to such an ignorant racist bigot such as yourself. You need help, mister. Kern Psychological Services Inc 5000 California Av #201 (661) 869-2610 posted by
sagefever
on Aug 30, 2007 at 10:42 AM
I am not amazed by any of these small minded remarks, and Charlie in particular~Please refrain from posting again on any of my incoherent ramblings. I think that would please us both. This was just a simple post to mark the passing of over 1000 people who died, 13 of which are to be buried in a memorial because no one claimed them. We lost a great American city, with a rich heritage. I will not respond to the inhumanity here, sadly it is expected from these individuals. I hope when your turn comes someone is there with help and a soft word. posted by
sumo211
on Aug 30, 2007 at 01:17 PM
Sage...some people just don't want to take the time to bother and give the situation some thought or caring. It requires too much of there beer time. That is simply too much to ask of these people to give a rat's bottom about others living somewhere else. Now if the same thing happened here...they'd be out in the front screaming their heads off over how THEY felt they were treated. They'd be the angriest of all. It's easy for them to sit back and have opinions about other people's strife as long as it isn't their own. Yeah, that six-pack is mighty important these days...who cares of the plight of others as long as they aren't swirling in the muck. Good try though Sage...you care and tried to show it...the others don't matter. They are following the madministration's example of not caring...so why should they really. Our government has set the stage for others to simply follow...and they do it well here.
posted by
robbwillis
on Aug 30, 2007 at 01:33 PM
Let's not be putting people down for not caring about the plight of people in New Orleans. Don't forget how some Bakersfieldians were the first responders: http://www.cbsnews.com/stor...
posted by
robbwillis
on Sep 4, 2007 at 10:37 AM
posted by
sagefever
on Sep 4, 2007 at 11:12 AM
Great link Robb. I debated with others about this very subject on another board:why rebuild in such a dangerous place? For me the answer lay in the chaos theory, and that we if really stopped and thought about all of life~the logical solution might just not be the right choice. Why build anywhere? Tornadoes, earthquakes..the list goes on. The questions about greed, backfill to create more space to sell, those are much more complicated, and as we see reflected across the country are not limited to New Orleans
posted by
robbwillis
on Sep 4, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Only hindsight will tell, of course. The worst decision may be to rebuild and then Bush will take another hit. Truly damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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