Here's a teaser to get ya all started:

"BILL MOYERS: Let me say first that I want to thank you for making me comfortable splitting infinitives.

JOHN MCWHORTER: Good.

BILL MOYERS: I had two English teachers, Inez Hughes and Selma Brutsy, who would hang me by the thumbs if I did that.

JOHN MCWHORTER: Very good minded people. But that rule about split infinitives is a hoax. It's like hanging garlic in a doorway to ward off bad spirits."

Bill Moyers?  Hmm.  Something familiar about that name...  Oh yeah!

"Even Bill Moyers, a White House aide now best known as a liberal television commentator, is described in the records as seeking information on the sexual preferences of White House staff members. Moyers said by e-mail yesterday that his memory is unclear after so many years but that he may have been simply looking for details of allegations first brought to the president by Hoover."

aww dril~ you disappoint me~ the interviewee and your post of a few days back con-cure.Here I thought we may have found some common ground but true to form you attack the messenger not the message.

"Please comment on the subject of the post itself." Which is race relations with a side of language~not Bill Moyers. After all this time,the TOS still escapes you?

Splittin' hairs arn't we?  Bill Moyers' name is listed (boldly) about a half dozen times.  I've seen much less than that cause a blog drift.  But then I did point out hypocrisy of a respected member of the liberal left.  If I report myself, will Jason show mercy?

LOL~ drl...but my point is: the interviewee and your post the other day agree! I  agree too,but you seem to rather "lock horns" so go at it. Bill Moyers is in bold ,as is Mr.McWorhter it makes the reading easier,at least to me.

Just play nice. I hate to see you get restriction.

The cartoon brings to mind that several of Lincoln's associates referred to him as a "baboon." Political cartoons back then were less kind and not hindered by political correctness or sensitivity as nowadays. Given the caption and the dead chimp, I can't see how there can be any other inference than a slur toward the president. For these two journalists to dismiss the implication as misinterpretation and inconsequential is beyond the bounds of denial.

Well I thought it was an interesting conversation myself~ and that the joke is most certainly in the eye of the beholder.Comedies sole purpose,like Art,is not to make a person comfortable~ it is meant to enlist the exact opposite reaction.

What I most like is trying to move beyond the past~ that after an acknowledgment of past horrors,that we should all try to move forward.

I guess I was the only human that didn't see the humor in some freak throwing shoes at the President.  As mentioned in a blog post, at the beginning I simply thought, "Wow, what a quick reaction," when the President was able to duck in time.  Later, when I learned the true implication of shoes themselves being thrown at our President, I was a little more eager to take umbrage.  "Umbrage" is only in the eye of the beholder, apparently. 

Incidentally, I thought the monkey cartoon in poor taste, when I hear about it (I did not actually see it).  On the other hand, it was never important enough to me to take the time to write about it.  The "players" themselves are far from being right in the public eye.  Many people haven't even heard of Moyers.  What's more, I haven't a clue as to McWhorter's identity.  I'm assuming he's some kind of TV "journalist"?  I guess if I have to ask ..........

You will get an answer:" With me is a man well suited to a discussion of Holder's speech and other matters. Professor John McWhorter is a veteran political commentator. He's also a scholar of linguistics, schooled in the meaning and nuance of language; a senior fellow at the conservative Manhattan Institute and a columnist for the NEW REPUBLIC magazine. He's written several books, including the best seller LOSING THE RACE, and these two published last year: OUR MAGNIFICENT BASTARD TONGUE: THE UNTOLD HISTORY OF ENGLISH and ALL ABOUT THE BEAT: WHY HIP HOP CAN'T SAVE BLACK AMERICA."

Never one to miss an opportunity to educate here is Bill Moyers Wiki page  http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

I first became acquainted with him through the excellent "Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth".He has has a varied and long career.Left main stream newscasting for PBS after he felt journalistic/news standards were declining.

His series "Faith and Reason" explored the question"In a world in which religion is poison to some and salvation to others, how do we live together?" with respected writers of faith and no faith.