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samheath - > Sam Heath -> Trust a Muslim to be a Muslim
Trust a Muslim to be a Muslim

It has always been good advice to take anyone threatening to kill you seriously. This advice does not change on the basis of “treaties made to be broken.”

The other morning as I was sitting here writing, something caught my eye out one of the windows. It was the resident cat playing with something in the yard; and knowing cats as I do, I was quickly up and out the door. Sure enough, it was some small critter the cat had caught, in this case a lizard, one of the black blue-bellied varieties common hereabouts.

Now this cat showed up at my place here in the country as a very young dumpee nearly eight years ago; and my having fed her, she decided to hang around. We know each other pretty well by now, enough so that she demands her “pets” in my lap and other attention as is the wont of cats in general, and she knows when I appear at such times as with her playing with the lizard I am going to intervene.

Sure enough, I was no sooner out the door when cat went one way and lizard another. It took some doing, but I’m still agile enough to cut the mustard on occasion, and in this case, I soon had the lizard in hand. Having captured the little critter, I took it over to a convenient pile of rocks and released it.

Readers will no doubt realize the futility of all this. Cat is still outside; it is still the cat’s nature to catch lizards and other critters. Some time ago my friend Mike Turner even took a picture of the cat perched on the rocks and made up a cute poster stating, “Wanted for Lizard Killin’.” The cat was unimpressed.

But the cat catching gophers suits me just fine. She sometimes shows up at the back door with a gopher proving she does know the difference between acceptable and unacceptable with me and I suspect to prove to me she earns her keep, though no doubt puzzled, understandably, why I approve her catching gophers but not lizards. I once watched as she missed a gopher, then pretending the nonchalance of Garfield looked at me and acted as though nothing had gone amiss; typical cat behavior.

Notwithstanding the futility of it all, as it is the nature of cats to be predators, so it is my nature to make every attempt to intervene in order to save little critters like the lizard. I’m not going to be able to change the nature of the cat, and no amount of the cat’s nature will change mine in intervening to save the cat’s prey on occasion. Nature red in tooth and claw is true of the beasts, but it is my nature as a civilized human being to intervene with such of Nature red in tooth and claw when possible; well, except for gophers and a few other undesirables.

Now I know some people really do hate cats, and while I have always liked them I can’t imagine what was in the minds of the gods to create lions and tigers on the one hand and produce the small furry creatures that warm many a lap while contentedly purring away. But whether dogs or cats I find it unconscionable for people to allow the indiscriminate breeding of these animals, especially when feral cats decimate bird populations and so many unwanted dogs and cats wind up being destroyed. This easily leads to my thoughts about the indiscriminate breeding by people that give no thought to the future of the resulting babies; however ...

There is no changing the nature of cats big or small; they are born predators and remain predators regardless all efforts to make them otherwise, regardless of the many cute pictures of cats with birds and hamsters perched on their heads, even the pictures of a momma cat nursing baby squirrels. Warm and fuzzy does not make a cat other than what it is—but what about Muslim terrorists?

Western Civilization is facing an implacable foe in Islam, a woman-hating religion of the sword that is a breeding ground for hatred of all who are not Muslims. The particularly virulent strains of Islam is fed children with their mother’s milk, and the resulting murderers of the innocent do not all come from barbaric conditions of want and poverty, some graduate from the schools in civilized nations.

Granted I do believe there are in fact “children of the Devil,” the monsters in human guise that prey on women and children, the kind of monsters that delight in the torture and murder of human beings. In a civilized society such monsters, whether of the Devil or not, are put away when caught. But what can be done when a religion teaches and encourages such monsters? Such is the risk all civilized nations are taking by allowing the religion of Islam to be protected and flourish in their midst.

While the cat is a predator by instinct, by its nature, we choose to believe this is not true of human beings. We want to believe a child raised in the proper environment of love and tolerance can never be taught to hate and murder others. But while we know what cruel poverty and ignorance can do in the life of any child, these are no more reliable predictors of behavior than the child raised in the best of circumstances. Some just seem to be born monsters.

We do know the teaching of hatred of those who are “different” by any measure can be taught children; and it is the responsibility of civilized people to avoid this kind of teaching, to root it out wherever it is found. Unfortunately for America the viper of “tolerance” for hatred has allowed for every kind of teaching of hatred for America and Americans to be found throughout our nation, especially in mosques and the inner cities, in jails and prisons where the most converts to Islam are being made. The result has to be an increase of what we see happening in Britain, and accelerating attempts to make such things happen here in America. It is only sensible to realize 9/11 was the gauntlet being thrown by the Islamic haters of all non-Muslims.

It seems good people do not have representation. No doubt the great majority of Muslims are good people, but they lack representation; there is no concerted outcry among Muslims to end the atrocities being committed by Muslims. And the accommodations to Islam by Western nations are construed by the Muslim teachers of hatred of all non-Muslims to be weakness with ever bit the disdain Hitler had for Chamberlain. Right now the “Chamberlains” are in charge because of oil and global corporations. And I continue to fear and look south through my windows for that mushroom cloud rising over Los Angeles as a consequence of greed and avarice cloaked in the politically correct speech of politicians and the MSM.

I can trust my cat to be a cat. That is its nature. But until Muslim leaders begin to make a concentrated effort to cooperate in holding their own accountable, to eradicate the teaching of hatred of all non-Muslims in the mosques throughout civilized nations I will only trust a Muslim to be a Muslim. And so long as greed and avarice control our government with the accompanying corruption born of greed and avarice so long will our borders remain porous inviting terrorist attacks whether our enemies are home grown or imported.

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posted by woofwoof on Jul 1, 2007 at 05:47 AM

You see the mushroom cloud in LA.  I see it in the Middle East and it looks like a giant kitty litter box.

posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 05:52 AM
While this seems to be the biggest threat the problem with that woof is nuclear bombs turn sand into glass. Makes it difficult to use as kitty litter.
posted by jfrancais on Jul 1, 2007 at 08:02 AM

Western Civilization is facing an implacable foe in Islam, a woman-hating religion of the sword that is a breeding ground for hatred of all who are not Muslims.

Islam and Christianity are similar enough to make that same assertion ("woman-hating") about both faiths. The way Christianity is practiced today, I wouldn't call it a faith for Women's Liberation, either. Christianity is not above these claims you make. People are killed, enslaved, discriminated against in the name of religion throughout history. Just as there are many nice kind Christians the same can be said for Muslims.

posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 08:32 AM
Thanks but some things are simply too obvious to deserve mention. Christianity can at least be said to have evolved into a civilized religion notwithstanding its shortcomings.
posted by jfrancais on Jul 1, 2007 at 08:39 AM

All religions evolve. But is it civilized when women aren't allowed to hold certain positions in some churches? There are Muslims around you daily that have no desire to kill, hate women, or hate people who are not as they are.

posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 08:44 AM
Once more, some things are too obvious to deserve mention. And I qualified sufficently in the post.
posted by jfrancais on Jul 1, 2007 at 08:51 AM
I miss the "too obvious to deserve mention" part. Would you be willing to clarify? I read the part paraphrasing that good muslims have no representation but you also stated that Islam is a woman-hating religion. Does that not apply to the good muslims?
posted by woofwoof on Jul 1, 2007 at 09:34 AM
Ok, Sam,  it'll be a self illuminating glass floored parking lot., instead...
posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 09:44 AM
Right Woof. You just have to look for the good in the bad.
posted by TomW on Jul 1, 2007 at 10:02 AM
Along these same lines then, I propose we kill all dogs in the US.  http://www.dogbitelaw.com/P...

A survey by the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta ("CDC") concluded that dogs bite nearly 2% of the U.S. population -- more than 4.7 million people annually. (Sacks JJ, Kresnow M, Houston B. Dog bites: how big a problem? Injury Prev 1996;2:52-4.)

Almost 800,000 bites per year -- one out of every 6 -- are serious enough to require medical attention. (Weiss HB, Friedman D, Coben JH. Incidence of dog bite injuries treated in emergency departments. JAMA 1998;279:51-53.)

Dog bites send nearly 368,000 victims to hospital emergency departments per year (1,008 per day). Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Nonfatal Dog Bite–Related Injuries Treated in Hospital Emergency Departments — United States, 2001, MMWR 2003;52:605-610. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report is published by the CDC.

16,476 dog bites to persons aged 16 years or greater were work related in 2001. (Ibid., Nonfatal Dog Bite–Related Injuries Treated in Hospital Emergency Departments — United States, 2001, MMWR 2003;52:608.

They are obviously trying to kill us, or at least some of them are.  I'm tired of the dog coddlers who think that it's only some dogs.  Anyone who opposes this is too soft to really understand the threat.
posted by NancyII on Jul 1, 2007 at 10:45 AM

I know this doesn't have much to do with the topic but one thing always bothers me.  It's that "H" word.  I'm no Muslim scholar but where is it written that they hate women?  I understand that the Muslims in their countries may not value women as they do men but that doesn't equate  hate.  I have several Muslim friends and they appear to love their wives and daughters.

There are a lot of cultures or sects who feel women are inferior (parts of India for one) but again..that doesn't mean they hate them.

The "H" word is bandied about pretty freely when it should be used with a bit more restraint when talking about people.

posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 11:26 AM
And while you're about it how about getting rid of the nonsense of "hate crimes." Surely there really are not such.
posted by NancyII on Jul 1, 2007 at 12:18 PM

I'm not sure if that comment was for me Sam but I will say that usage of the word in an appropriate comment isn't the issue.  When I see someone who disagrees with another person  politically accuse that person of "hating America" it irks me.  When I see a comment like "Islam hates women" it bothers me because it isn't accurate. 

Logically, aren't all crimes "hate crimes?"  Seems like a pretty hateful act to me.   Just what is a hate crime?  One committed because you don't like a persons skin color?  Or sexual preference?  Political party?  Gender?  Hair color?  How is it defined within the law?  I get that some things require the word "hate", but to use it just because you disagree with someone is just wrong.  It's overused and misused way too much.

By the way..I hate broccoli and I hate fish.  And dat's the troot.

 

posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 02:40 PM

Muslims are taught to hate sin. Islam teaches women are the major source of sin.

posted by RoyTullis on Jul 1, 2007 at 03:05 PM
I think it is true that Muslims do not hate women.  Their religion specifies their position.  See my comment on the Blog #146 Islamist Kill Mickey Mouse.
posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 03:16 PM
It is religion that makes the distinction, as I know from my own theological studies.
posted by sagefever on Jul 1, 2007 at 03:24 PM
Sam~ you know enough to realize who caused all of our problems~that darn old eve! Ever since you boys shut down the Goddess religions it's been hate women~those mysterious creatures who appearer to be the source of all life and all misery ;-)  My pet peeve,but the word "some" in front of statements really helps one's positions seem possible,The moment I do not see that quantifier I am lost to the POV.Some men hate women,some women hate men..but they got along well enough to get us all here!The Muslim restrictions in regards to virtually everything seem to be about containing change in the culture,Be born,be religious,be faithful,obey your parental units,get married:repeat.It when things get twisted by the power seeking no ego heads that we, they get into trouble,Again some Muslim power seeking no ego heads..not the truly religious guys.The Sufi are a much more groovy branch of these folks and their poetry to God is some of the most beautiful stuff ever written by pious men. Sam I am sure you've read some.If anybody is interested I would suggest the poets Rumi,Lalla and my personal favorite Hafiz, these folks were truly "drunk" with God,with the ecstatic experience
posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 03:31 PM
It is that whole preoccupation with sex sagefever. When Harper Lee had Aunt Maudie pointing out some hardshell Baptist men taught women "were unclean and a sin by definition" she could well have been parroting from the Koran. And it seems there is never a lack of women succumbing to such nonsense by clergy of whatever religion.
posted by sagefever on Jul 1, 2007 at 03:51 PM
True that Sam..and a weird preoccupation with sex at that~the whole Madonna/wanton vixen thing..I all for honest sex,but its the weirdness that too often gets tossed in by those who feel an unexamined life is worth living..sometimes it seems easiest to give another human your "power"~let them make your choices~but it never works out. I thank God or whatever that I was born now,here~otherwise I fear I'd be one dead mouthy woman..no not fear,I would be.
posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 03:59 PM
There was a time when Christian orthodoxy would have me burned at the stake for heresy. But as I say, I'm grateful Christianity eventually became a civilized religion by comparison with some others.
posted by Katatak on Jul 1, 2007 at 04:35 PM
If we look at literacy rates, women are at the bottom of the barrel in Islamic countries. In Western countries such as the United States, women in university are now the majority and this is holding true for advanced degrees. 
posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 04:43 PM

You would think that alone would speak volumes to those that feel a need to "stick up for Islam."

posted by jfrancais on Jul 1, 2007 at 05:47 PM
...but it doesn't (please don't delete me again. I'm only stating my non-inflammatory opinion).
posted by NancyII on Jul 1, 2007 at 06:44 PM

I think men perpetuated the myth that sex is dirty and evil to keep women on a short leash.  That way they the little woman wouldn't fool around and they were free to play all they wanted.  (of course women of ill repute never believed it anyway.)

I have my helmet on so started throwing tomatoes guys.  :-)  

Sorry..I couldn't resist.

posted by samheath on Jul 1, 2007 at 06:49 PM
Not  from me Nancy, my two daughters taught me better. But had it not been for them...
posted by Hardliner4freedom on Jul 1, 2007 at 07:02 PM

I don't know -- the pieces certainly seem to fit from a correlation standpoint -- even though I can't understand how a desire for men to control women would want to make men convince women that sex is dirty. 

It definitely seems true that the most psychotically sex-phobic cultures tend to be the most misogynistic ones.  Definitely a correlation.

But is patriarchy the cause?  I'm not so sure.  The segment of feminism that resents men and detests sexuality (at least male sexuality) as much as Jerry Falwell did, is quite a considerable segment.  They retain the abhorrence of sex yet shed what they perceive as male domination.

Falling back on my "repression of sex is the root of all evil" theory, I get a more logical answer.

If a society represses and strangulates human sexual interaction, then patriarchialism and misogyny is rewarded because subjugating women helps men gain access to a strictly limited commodity: sex.  The nice guys observe the society's irrational strictures -- the bad guys don't.  As a result, the bad guys are rewarded -- with sex.

Loosen up the needless taboos, as is happening in Europe, and the misogyny disappears.  There is little need for male domination since it is no longer needed to obtain sex.

 

posted by drilnliftcrude on Jul 1, 2007 at 08:14 PM

The only thing that might be considered a myth about sex that I may have helped perpetuate would be that it cures everything from depression to acne.

posted by sagefever on Jul 1, 2007 at 08:42 PM
H4F~ I think my point is its a combo of both theories.Society has a vested interest in keeping the status quo for women and men.Nobody wins~males are as restricted, forced into the good/bad guy roles you illustrate and the pure/wanton women are also.Any deviation is not tolerated~homosexual,bi,trans-gender,BDSM, you name it ~equals"bad".The whole Goddess deal went down centuries before,it is the underlay of the painting you describe,todays problems. The powers that be  will use anything to continue to try to divide us,sexual repression is but one tool.
posted by NancyII on Jul 1, 2007 at 09:01 PM

It was a joke H...a joke.  :-)

LOL Dril..good one.

 

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posted by Hardliner4freedom on Jul 1, 2007 at 09:06 PM

"It was a joke H...a joke.  :-)"

I see -- but I've heard it said by other people who didn't mean it as a joke.  To those others who took the statement seriously, my reply remains in effect.

(And I sure have to sign in a lot lately...)  (And I know I typed in the right spam code...)

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