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There Ain't Nothin' Like A Dame
“There ain’t nothin’ like a dame!” You know, one of those alien creatures from Venus that motivates a man to put on a clean white shirt for.
31 comments from 11 users
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posted by
dgrealish
on Aug 27, 2006 at 11:12 AM
Once again Sam, you speak from my heart. As a member of the Fruitvale School Student Council, 1969-1970, we were given the task of deciding whether or not to change the dress code. Girls were not allowed to wear pants or shorts to school. Dresses and skirts or culottes with panels in the front and back disguising them were the accepted attire for girls. In one of the meetings, a young man of 13 years spoke up and said he thought if the girls started wearing pants to school the boys would be inclined to treat them as equals. He said that during recess sports which, being such a small school required both sexes to participate, he felt the boys might be rougher with the girls. I was also 13 at the time, and this made sense to me. Over the next few years, the dress code was changed, but we voted to keep it as it was. Girl in dresses and the boys keeping them on a pedestal. ( I know someone will come back and say "so they could look up their dresses", but that wasn't the case here.) posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 27, 2006 at 11:15 AM
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 27, 2006 at 12:09 PM
See, I don't consider that piece hateful. Hate is like pornography; it's hard to define it concretely, but you recognize it when you see it. And this wasn't hate. It was just a man expressing his opinion. posted by
samheath
on Aug 27, 2006 at 12:18 PM
Debra, we seem to be thrown on the dust hill of history and treated now as anachronisms destined for extinction. But as long as I am able to do so I'll speak and write of that time I knew and lived in an America that had a right to speak of virtue.
posted by
TomW
on Aug 27, 2006 at 12:42 PM
posted by
dgrealish
on Aug 27, 2006 at 01:10 PM
I don't think Sam was talking about men, I believe he specifically said "when the situation gets out of hand, when the boys respond to their own nature". Face it, you can walk through the mall, the marketplace, anywhere kids hang out and you don't have to guess which kids are likely to end up "in trouble". I've seen girls with their mothers, both dressed like hookers and thought, boy the slut doesn't fall far from the tree. When little girls are allowed to play dress-up at home, it's a great thing, but when they're allowed to take it out in public, it invites trouble. And with all the hormones in our food these days, little girls are looking less like little girls at younger ages. Let's try to keep them innocent as long as we can. posted by
samheath
on Aug 27, 2006 at 01:21 PM
While I have a Ph. D. in Human Behavior I have learned you don't try to convince men of those things where their minds are obviously committed to the use and abuse of girls and women. Little JonBenet was exploited and is now mute testimony of the result of encouraging monsters in the guise of men. It only acerbates the situation when girls are encouraged to cheapen themselves by immodest dress and coarse language mistaking equal rights for equal value.
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 27, 2006 at 05:52 PM
Rhett, would probably have the same thing to say to you as he did to Scarlett in describing your senile rantings, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"!
Your PHD, by the way only attest to your talent, you can PILE the sh*t HIGHER and DEEPER! posted by
tonyh
on Aug 27, 2006 at 06:02 PM
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 27, 2006 at 06:13 PM
tonyh, if you consider Sroobely the Mexifly Ding Bat a good source, you are in trouble. But calling me names, does that mean you don't like me anymore sweetheart?
I guess I will have to include you along with Srobely as the survivors on of the nuclear holacaust along with Keith Richirds of the Stones, geez I dont ' know how a left this lovable lady out of the cockroach prediction. Thanks for the reminder, love you sweetie. posted by
anonymous
on Aug 27, 2006 at 06:15 PM
" That is until I met the right girl, the kind of girl that inspired that line from South Pacific" by that you mean, Belly High, of course, right Sam?
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 27, 2006 at 06:17 PM
"Lejeune paid homage to the genius of such great artists as Jerome Kern, Sigmund Romberg, Rudolf Friml, Victor Herbert", you forgot Adolph Hitler, the inspirationn fot the National Review.
posted by
NancyII
on Aug 27, 2006 at 06:18 PM
Boys (and some men) think of the girls that way and act on it. It doesn't make it right..it doesn't make it fair..it just makes it the way it is. Sometimes, just because we have "the right", it doesn't make it the smartest thing to do. I have the right to drive on any street in the middle of the night that I choose...but it isn't always the smartest thing to do. Is there a certain amount of inequality here? Of course there is. But ya know..life isn't always fair. I'd rather my daughters and granddaughters were safe rather than "right." posted by
anonymous
on Aug 27, 2006 at 06:19 PM
" Face it; if girls and women talk, dress and act like prostitutes, they are going to be treated as such no matter how they and “liberals” howl against the very abuse they are, in fact, subjecting themselves to" have you been prowling Union Avenue again Sam?.
posted by
knoli
on Aug 27, 2006 at 06:20 PM
I was tempted to let this slide, being another case of the ill educated society that I live in. However, upon the admittal of a PhD (in human behaviour at that) I do feel it necessary to challenge.
the quotes from your text: "...society must accept the obvious that as long as our girls and women are encouraged to invite lust by the way they act, talk and dress, unless reasonable approaches to these things are faced and dealt with, such things will continue to provoke violence against them." and: "...Face it; if girls and women talk, dress and act like prostitutes, they are going to be treated as such no matter how they and “liberals” howl against the very abuse they are, in fact, subjecting themselves to." Do you know the first thing that the CobyBriant's defense asked the victim was "what was she wearing?'. If you want to get nostalgic, that's about as old school as it gets. Perhaps I am a complete misfit, but I can tell you without doubt, if I were to walk amongst women in string bikinis and prostitutes, this would not cause me to rape. Numero uno, Rape is a Man's Issue, not a woman's. True, they are left with the issue personally to resolve, yet the man initiates this violent act of superiority and violence-not sex or pornography-and will perpetuate them without intervention. And to reason that pornography is another underlying cause of rape is as unqualified of a statement as to say commercials about food cause obesity. It would be interesting to ponder that if we went into the house of a rapist, there might be pornography; however, it could be safe to guess that these people have underlying 'sexual addictions' that is fueling the use of their sex as violently as they do. Think about our previous President Clinton. If ever a man had nothing to gain and everything to lose by his indiscretion, this would be it. Addictions in sex are real, and in my opinion only, I believe a category or two of them might not be able to recover. But we'll save that for another article. The main point is this: education is the key. Perhaps a few are just weak in moral fiber, but late night Showtime isn't to blame. These ideals are catapulting us back to the 40's or 50's, where if you wanted to know who committed the crime, just look around town at the minority or some other person who doesn't fit the 'mold of society'. as you stated : "Then, when the situation gets out of hand, when the boys take advantage and respond according to their own nature both may become victims..." this is as abominable of a defense for these vile acts as saying 'if i didn't have a gun, I wouldn't have used it on them'. I would like to end this in something other than an what I would consider to be insulting to you, so I'll try. The cause and effect scenarios you are citing just don't have the real thought behind them and I challenge you to look deeper. It is my interest that people not create publications on why hate or violence is perpetrated justly, and to some extent I believe it is necessary not to just slap hands but ask, "why would you think that?". posted by
tonyh
on Aug 27, 2006 at 06:20 PM
I don't consider SRobley anything other than just another bloger. I don't know the guy. You've earned my disrespect all by yourself, with all of the stupid, childish jabs that you take at anyone that you don't agree with. Now, I understand SRobley's comment about you not being a threat to anyone. posted by
dgrealish
on Aug 27, 2006 at 08:33 PM
posted by
steveeswenson
on Aug 28, 2006 at 01:49 PM
A woman dressed provocatively generally inspires the thought, "I'm going to get lucky tonight." But if she says no, that's the end of it. It becomes a misunderstanding. But it does not invite rape or violence. That's all in the man's head and his need to express his power and domination. Sexiness doesn't motivate that. And in the general scheme of things, it is not how a woman is dressed, but how vulnerable she is to attack. Lots of women outside the starlet ranks have been victims of rape. But to give Sam his due, what he is really saying is that women who dress provocatively tend to lessen the morals of society. More immoral thoughts to begin with. Having said that, how a woman dresses is never an invitation for abuse. And in that context, how they dress is their decision on comfortable they feel with how they look. Men, on the other hand, need to be taught to respect women. Mutual pleasure is exquisite. Anything else is a crime. posted by
anonymous
on Aug 28, 2006 at 02:22 PM
tonyh, you have earned my disrespect as well sweetheart as you can tell. But I will not call you a loser, I will leave that up to your friends and family, they know you better, than I ever will.
Hey and if you had asked I would have told you, I never threaten anyone, I just point out their real feelings and that makes them feel threatened. In fact whan asked I say I'm Swiss, that way I offend no one, sweetie. What can I say, you are not a loser, you are a weiner!! posted by
MyLefteFoot
on Aug 28, 2006 at 02:38 PM
As long as Sam continues to argue that it's male horomones that make men commit rape rather than their poorly defined self image and rage, women and children will continue to be the victims of predators. posted by
anonymous
on Aug 28, 2006 at 02:53 PM
You guys are not Rush fans, this is Rush's argument with as he call them the femmenazis.
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:00 PM
dgrealish, you in seductive clothing are still not attractive and would probably drive a masher to suicide, so how can you judge?
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:04 PM
You don't come close to hand work, and that is a fact!
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:12 PM
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:21 PM
Yeah, momma that could be it, but is isn't. You know Muslims have suicide bombers because when they reach martyrdom the get 72 virgins, but Christians will never have suicide bombers because they too could have 72 virgin, the drawback, they would all look like you dgrealish, geez their has to be better way to go. Bummer.
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:25 PM
I forgot size does count with you sweetheart, sorry I never promised to make you cry, who am I Tom Jones?.
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:28 PM
Forgive me sweetheart, I promised not to tell.
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:34 PM
dgrealish, don't be coy, you know what step we are on, we do it together oops I promised not to tell. Any way to me you are beautiful, but sometimes my judgement is not that good, I also love dogs.
posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:43 PM
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:49 PM
Yea I agree this will have to end the conversion with the miss universe contestant from Uranus, before I offend PETA, I also aplogize to all dogs, they deserve better, sorry.
posted by
TomW
on Aug 28, 2006 at 03:52 PM
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