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samheath - > Sam Heath -> Are Dreams Really Significant?
Are Dreams Really Significant?

Dreams are fascinating, and from the most ancient of times it has been thought they are the way deities and departed loved ones and others communicate with us. While scientists continue in attempts to understand this function of the brain they are still at a loss to account for the many ways in which this “dream state” translates into our everyday lives, what the real significance of dreams might be.

The fact that so much credence is given dreams being significant was the basis of the classic SciFi thriller “Forbidden Planet.” As scientific as he thought himself Dr. Morbius realized slumber provided a pathway to the “mindless primitive,” the “monsters of the Id,” and dreams figure prominently in all ancient literature, especially that of the Bible. Even today the interest in dreams, their significance, their meaning and interpretation has not lessened. And while mechanical means, predominantly drugs, have been long used to induce trance-like states of mind, and the history of various shamans using such means to contact spirits and open themselves to visions it is the dreams that come to us unbidden in our sleep that pose the greatest fascination for us.

There are nightmares that cause to awaken in a panic drenched with perspiration, there are dreams that may actually presage some momentous or pleasant, even prosaic event; dreams that some recount as warnings, premonitions of impending disasters, but in most cases we seem not to remember our dreams. And quite often the ones we recall seem not to make any sense, and we do not know what that part of our mind is doing that does not slumber while we sleep apart from the tasks necessary for life. But we humans are spiritual beings, and it makes sense to many people that spiritual communication does occur while we sleep.

While dreams are shrouded in much mysticism, that some are called “dreamers” has its roots in this spiritual part of our lives and the dreamers among us are often those acting out their dreams, though not so often as Kevin Costner did in the film. The phrase “I have a dream” has become part of our culture, but MLK knew it would only remain a dream without written expression and practical action directed at its fulfillment. And since the invention of writing, this has been the means of conveying dreams to others. However, no one knows what part dreams, spiritual communion and communication, may play in writing, to what extent some writing may be an attempt to put dreams into comprehensible written expression.

In some ways writing is like scratching on the wall of time, making our marks as though to say “I’m here, I’m alive, and when I am gone remember me.” In this sense some writing might not only be an expression of dreams, but also an expression of our attempts to call attention to ourselves, an attempt at immortality, something that may be conveyed to us in our dreams. It is only in this way we can make sense of some of the glyphs in stone, some of the pictographs, paintings, engravings, even monuments like the Giza pyramids and Stonehenge left by ancient people throughout the world. In many cases graffiti is an attempt by the person to call attention to themselves, an attempt to be recognized, often when they have no other means of expression that will be seen by others.

The publishing of books at one time was a hallmark of literary achievement, and a kind of immortality for those who were successful writers. With the advent of photography and films, these became increasingly popular methods of making scratches on the wall of time, and with TV the best people could hope for in making their scratches on the wall was to be remembered in re-runs. Even the empty suits and talking heads on TV are given to writing books as well as the many entertainment celebrities. There is just something about written expression that transcends all else.

Whether the fascinating Indian artifacts and pictures carved or painted on stone around the valley here that I would come across as a boy, or the marvels I would read about and see in the old National Geographic’s and elsewhere, the question often arising in my mind would be why ancient people felt it so important to do such things? No doubt these things were important to the people who carved or painted the pictures, who built the monuments, but what of the individual persons involved, what were they trying to express about themselves as individual persons? A carving or painting on some rock hundreds or even thousands of years ago may have been done by an equivalent Michelangelo, a Rembrandt or Matisse to those of their time. But most of them were probably the equivalent of writers, most of them ordinary people simply saying “I’m here, I’m alive, and when I am gone remember me.”

Experts in translating glyphs of the past have made sense of many of them, and we know some carvings, paintings and drawings were of a religious nature and attempts to prevail on various deities for one thing or another. And while fascinating I’m also interested in the equivalent “Kilroy Was Here” and those glyphs that were made by the ordinary people of the time, some person simply trying to express themselves as individuals, not just for their tribes or clans but for people in the future to see as well, a kind of groping for some meaningful expression of personal identity to others for both the present and the future.

The day-to-day struggles for existence of our ancient ancestors didn’t leave much time for them to engage in artistic endeavors. It takes a leisure class and wealthy patrons of the arts to produce things like a “David,” but such marvels don’t hold the fascination for me those cave paintings in France do, or even the crude and curious drawings on rocks I would discover as a boy made by the Indians that used to inhabit the Kern River Valley so long ago. While some artists of various civilizations have made great names for themselves, and though I appreciate great art as much as anyone, I find the rough pictographs and other drawings of ancient people far more interesting.

Most are familiar with the “John loves Mary” carved into the trunk of a tree, but did you as a boy ever do such a thing? I did, and I suppose this is why I am more interested in such things left by the ancients than any of their other works of art, than the monuments and inscriptions of ancient kings as important as these are.

The Japanese soldier in “Letters from Iwo Jima” was surprised to discover the letter to the American soldier from his mother read just like a letter from his own mother. The many icons representative of American culture, the monuments and works of art would not have made such an impression. Nor would anything the Japanese left behind on the island been as impressive as those letters.

There are many stories painted and carved in stone told by ordinary people of ancient times long before writing was invented, not to glorify some deity or ruler but simply done to express the thoughts and hopes of the person. And just like that Japanese soldier discovered I don’t doubt the stories would reveal they were people just like us, people with the same dreams and hopes of ordinary people today. Many of these ancient inscriptions have been translated and interpreted, but some experts I believe have missed the mark occasionally by not recognizing the work of some of these ancient people had more to do with their personal hopes and dreams than anything the experts find significant. The “Dreams of the Everyday Housewife” must have been there from the very beginning and found expression in some manner before the advent of writing.

And discounting those like politicians, media and entertainment celebrities that believe their every word should be graved in stone because of ego there is nothing so representative of the hopes and dreams of individuals than personal letters. While the writing of love letters is a lost art form in America, still the personal letters exchanged between loved ones and friends declare the dreams of the writers. But to what degree and in what manner do actual dreams influence our need to communicate with others, and what of our dreams may be conveyed in writing, even unconsciously? I love a mystery, and this certainly belongs with the many other mysteries that occupy my mind, and I don’t doubt while sleeping as well as awake.

 

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posted by blognroll on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM

 Many have fallen into the trap that dreams can only be interpreted in one way.  Freud's psychodynamic approach and Jung's psychoanalytic approach are the most popular, and much can be learned by studying these approaches, but this is not an exact science and when you buy exclusively into one approach, many mistakes can be made.  I always begin by asking my patients what they think their own dreams mean.  You take their experience and relate it to multiple approaches until you find the most suitable fit.  

posted by samheath on Feb 23, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Of course I'm familiar with that approach from my own doctoral studies. Still, the mysticism remains and few people even among professionals will stand on an exact "interpretation" of dreams.

posted by tkozy on Feb 23, 2008 at 12:11 PM

 

Dreams will only become significant. When you can go to bed hungry and then wake up nourished and your hunger satisfied.

posted by woofwoof on Feb 23, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Dreams have always fasinated me.  The most bizarre ones happened when I was pregnant.  The comedian Sinbad's head was my big toe.....I just chalked that one up to too many pickles with ice cream...lol.

Recently had dreams of an albino cat.  I'm one of those who'll check out the "dream dictionaries" online....some seem to be dead on, but I was unable to find the feline.

I've also looked to "scratch the walls" but have deleted all my blogs.  Feeling as if it just doesn't matter even with the readership I had.  So here I am back on ole B.com, quietly scratching on the walls.

posted by samheath on Feb 23, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Keep scratching woof; it's a way to feel alive.

posted by NancyII on Feb 23, 2008 at 12:50 PM

My theory about dreams is pretty uncomplicated.  During waking hours we can control our thoughts to some degree but when asleep our subconcious takes over and roams freely.  Discussing someone I haven't seen in a long time sometimes brings a dream about that person that night.  Once I had a very realistic dream about my mother who has been gone for over 30 years.  I decided it was Gods way of letting me see her again.  Or, if not a religious thought, a way for me to continue to deal with my loss.

I look at it like a sorting bin...taking this thought and that thought and tossing it into different categories.  Worry, fear, love, obsession.  They come at us when we're the most vulnerable.

What I DON'T believe in is symbolism.  A white dove means I'll have peace type of thing.  I just believe it lets us process things in a different way than the concious brain.

posted by woofwoof on Feb 23, 2008 at 01:34 PM

Even worse Nancy, is having dreams of someone who's died.  My step mom died two weeks before my oldest was born.  I was unable to fly out for the funeral.  She *HAUNTED* me for years in my dreams.  She was an evil person when she was alive.  My dad had even done the weird thing of taking pictures of her in the coffin...it didn't help.  I'd even ask her in my dreams, "why are you here, you're suppose to be dead".  Oh crud now I've brought her up....how much ya wanna bet she'll show up in my dreams tonite.

Back to Scrabble.

posted by samheath on Feb 23, 2008 at 01:49 PM

Most of us have our opinions, even beliefs about dreams. I recall a favorite radio program The Halls of Ivy. In one episode the professor's wife tells someone to "scratch where it itches; not where it looks the best." And though we have to exercise a degree of caution in exposing our thoughts at times, it's still what many of us try to do while making our scratches on the wall.

posted by sagefever on Feb 23, 2008 at 01:58 PM

I have always done journals,and the month I helped care for my dying Mom  was no exception. Every night there was some bizarre  dream,most clearly a way of processing what was happening.Some made absolutely no sense to me at the time,later after my boys deaths,they made sense~or I made them make sense. That's what we do, make order out of the chaos. It is a fascinating thing to ponder,the whys and were fores.

posted by samheath on Feb 23, 2008 at 02:20 PM

One of the more curious things is "collective dreams." Most will recall the scene in "Field of Dreams" where both the husband and wife have the same dream. Back in the 40s when I was a boy I had a vivid dream of the moon crashing onto the earth. You can imagine my amazement the following day to see an article about this complete with the picture from my dream in the Bakersfield Californian. That could be considered bizarre and made no sense.

posted by NancyII on Feb 23, 2008 at 04:06 PM

When my son was 16 I dreamed he went up a long dirt road lined with people on both sides.  When he crested the hill on his dirt bike and disappeared, the crowd started screaming.  I woke up terrified and told my husband about the dream.  The following week he was racing out beyond California City and went off into a ravine and broke his ankle.

Was it premonition?  Or was it worry?  The prior year at age 15 he had a bad wreck in a grand prix outside Tehachapi and broke his femur.  That resulted in 6 weeks in traction in the hospital and 3 months in a body cast.

Did I dream it a year later before another race because it was on my mind?  Was the dream a premonition or worry?    You judge.

posted by samheath on Feb 23, 2008 at 04:30 PM

I freely admit I have acted on dreams that if they were not premonitions still caused me to take action.

posted by Mom2CandC on Feb 23, 2008 at 06:03 PM

Well, I have found that sometimes my dreams have meaning...and sometimes they are non-sense!  I used to keep a journal next to my bed (especially while I was younger and going through major parental issues and seeing a counselor during my high school years)...some really interesting dreams came out at that time that gave me a sort of "checklist to consider" while dealing with my issues at the time.  I have also had the sort of dreams sage, nancy and woof have written about - loved ones who have passed or who are sick coming to see me in my dreams.  This worried me in my "younger years", now it comforts me more than anything. 

My 94 year old grandmother passed away at the end of December 2007 and that was a very difficult time for me personally.  We were very close and I spent alot of time with her at the end.  The things she said made sense to me....messages from my grandpa who died 15 years ago, and others she talked about "seeing".  My paternal grandfather who died when I was 1 month old also sent his messge through her....since my grandma's passing, I have not had another dream about my paternal grandfather.  (Before this time, I had only dark, serious or scary dreams of him....but honestly don't recall him since I was only an infant.)  I also find that I don't recall my dreams as much as before I had kids....it must be that I am usually in the first stages of falling asleep and then awakened by a cough, a cry from a bad dream, or someone rolling over....then again, maybe I am just sleep deprived and can't recall the dreams?  (I usually just chalk it up to sleep deprivation...)

I think we tend to keep our thoughts in check when we are awake.  When we are in the stage of sleeping, our consciousness is more relaxed and we can sort through the more serious, scary and difficult to deal with feelings or happenings of the day, week or our past.  Dr. BLT also brought up the point that there are many theories and ways to interpret dreams....and sometimes they need to be dealt with as just what they are.....nonsense!  Either way, it is always interesting to read what everyone else has to say!     

 

posted by johnburnssucks on Feb 23, 2008 at 08:33 PM

Human are not the only ones who dream; dogs dream, as do other animals.

I once dreamed that I was at the Del Mar racetrack and Sharon Stone walked over and asked me who I liked in the next race. Never did see her there, though.

posted by ALICEN on Feb 27, 2008 at 06:30 PM

To Blognroll:  you must be someone who infuriated me many years ago.  You must be. 

I had a recurring dream from the time I was probably around five until almost the age of 30.  I can still feel the fear even though I know it was not real. 

However, as Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  The guy knew what he was talking about. 

One must get truthful; that's what hurts.  Embarrassing, too. 

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