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sfinboston52 - > Ganesh -> Marriage Equality in CA
Marriage Equality in CA

Been reading several articles via towleroad.com blog  today and thought I would share some of the profiles and links.

First couple to wed have been together for over 50 years!

Martin_lyon

At 5:01pm today, history will be made as gay and lesbian couples begin marrying in California, led symbolically by the marriage of Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon, the couple of 50 years who were first married in San Francisco City Hall in 2004

Profile of some of those on the front lines of marriage equality:

Profiles of some of the key figures in the same-sex marriage struggle (both for and against) including Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon, Hillary and Julie Goodridge, Gavin Newsom, and Ronald George.

Latest Poll:

A new CBS poll shows reveals America's shifting views on same-sex marriage: "Twenty-eight percent think same-sex couples should be permitted to form civil unions, but more than a third - 36 percent - say there should be no legal recognition of a gay couple’s relationship. Last month, the California Supreme Court struck down that state’s ban on same-sex marriage, paving the way for gay and lesbian couples to marry there. Americans’ views on this issue have changed since 2004, although opinion has not changed substantially in the last two years. In November of 2004 (soon after the presidential election) just 21 percent of Americans supported the idea of same-sex couples being allowed to marry."

Additional Information:

road.jpg The San Francisco Chronicle visits the town where the highest percentage of residents (83%) voted for Proposition 22, the successful state ballot initiative that limited marriage to a man and a woman, and gets its take on the same-sex marriage laws: "Most residents still don't like the idea of allowing men to marry men and women to marry women. Some residents say they don't know any openly gay people, and others have trouble even saying the word 'gay.' One man called it being 'of the homosexual persuasion.'"

road.jpg California businesses are poised to receive a windfall: "Faced with a wilted economy, water shortages and sticker shock at the gasoline pump, many California businesses are welcoming 'the dinks' (double income, no kids) with open arms. 'It’s basically a godsend,' said Daniel Doiron, the general manager of the Ingleside Inn in Palm Springs, which is offering honeymoon specials from $479 bargain basement (boutonnieres, 15-minute wedding, 20 guests) to the 'Elizabeth Taylor' at $29,999 (poolside villas, wedding cake and reception, ice sculptures, flowers, sit-down dinner for 200 and three nights in the honeymoon suite). 'We’re just blessed to help.' Ten couples from New York, Las Vegas and Phoenix have signed up for the options."

road.jpg A California business specializing in interchangeable figures for wedding cakes is seeing a windfall. More on the business boom, below.

road.jpg What churches are participating? "Episcopalians, Unitarian Universalists, rabbis, a Methodist and even a Catholic priest are planning to bless some same-sex marriages when they are set to become legal in California on Monday. 'I believe the family is a cornerstone for a strong society, and I'm all in favor of everything we can do to build up the values that make strong families,' said the Rev. Susan Russell of All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena, which has been blessing same-sex unions for 16 years. 'I think the values matter more than the gender of the people making up the heads of those families,' Russell said." NPR reports on the coming clash between equal rights and religious expression.

road.jpg Some couples don't plan on rushing to the altar: "As of yesterday, more than 700 same-sex couples had made appointments to get a marriage license in San Diego County, including 190 for Tuesday. Michael Kimmel, a Kensington psychotherapist who counsels gay couples, said the pressure to wed is prompting some couples to re-evaluate the strength of their relationships."

Thanks to Towleroad.com for providing links on this information.

Hope this helps as people watch the wedding take place during the next few months.

 

Posted in the Family & Home interest group.
Topics: marriage, CA, gay
posted by sfinboston52 on Monday, June 16, 2008 at 07:46 AM
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posted by AudreyB on Jun 16, 2008 at 07:52 AM

I love the picture.  It's worth a 1000 words.  What a sweet couple.

posted by witterpitters on Jun 16, 2008 at 08:01 AM

I agree Audrey :-)  How many hetero marriages last that long in this day and age? I've been with 2nd hubby 37 years! We might make it to 50!!!!  I don't care who marries who. If there is love, caring & mutual respect that is all that counts.

posted by AudreyB on Jun 16, 2008 at 08:02 AM

Well put Witters.

posted by siouxcityranch on Jun 16, 2008 at 08:09 AM

Michael Kimmel, a Kensington psychotherapist who counsels gay couples, said the pressure to wed is prompting some couples to re-evaluate the strength of their relationships."

 A good example  of  be careful what you wish for..Are  there any others out there reconsidering their relationships under the new ruling?? You dont have to answer..just think about it..

Kind of scary making a life long commitment  isnt it..

posted by ApolloDawn on Jun 16, 2008 at 08:12 AM

Well put too, Witters.

Some people associate marriage with a picture of opposite sexes raising, or planning to raise, a family.  Other people believe that intimate love alone is the basis for marriage.

I understand and respect the first view even as I believe in the second.  But people in the first group will never succeed in brow-beating the second into seeing it as the first group does.  People in the second group should expect almost as difficult a time changing the views of people in the first.

The best chance for changing any minds is to show it's human side, and this picture does that well.

posted by siouxcityranch on Jun 16, 2008 at 08:13 AM

Ive been with my one and only since she was 12 years old and I was 15..Im 54 now and dont plan on changing..Till death do us part as the promise goes..

posted by sfinboston52 on Jun 16, 2008 at 08:21 AM

Sioux,

I would assume it will be the same as here in MA. There were couples who once it became recognized, started looking at their relationship in more detail and eventually decided not to marry or remain together.

I and my spouse have been together for 11 years, 4 of which are recognized by MA.

posted by AudreyB on Jun 16, 2008 at 08:26 AM

Sioux

Marriage ruins a lot of heterosexual relationships too.  Marital commitment depends on the people involved, not their sexual orientation.

posted by siouxcityranch on Jun 16, 2008 at 08:44 AM

Audrey my post had nothing to do with being gay or not..It had everything to do with finally getting something you felt was going to improve your lifestyle and when that GLORIOUS DAY finally arrives..you suddenly realize you quite possibly are having second thoughts..all the bull is gone..time for a commitment

Hmmm...Woah this isnt fun anymore..Im outta here..

you have been so busy defending your rights you lost the intent of my post. Shake ur head Yes...

posted by sfinboston52 on Jun 16, 2008 at 09:35 AM

Sioux...I saw your intent and agree w/ you on living up the vows we take when we get married.

I have seen way to many people Straight/Gay who have gotten married w/o taking it seriously. Marriage is not for only the goodtimes, the vows are there for the times when it is difficult.

posted by sagefever on Jun 16, 2008 at 10:45 AM

"Good times and bad"...so true yet some bad times can not be worked through~ while others can. Congratulations to those about to take the big step and much good luck!


posted by sfinboston52 on Jun 16, 2008 at 10:54 AM

I agree Sage, there are times to just hang it up and move on. I try never to judge any other couple's success or failure, since they are the only ones who really know what is going on in their relationship.

My spouse & I knew a married couple who were friends of his father and Step mother. We thought the couple was great and had it all together and were deeply in love. It was very much a shock, when they divorced and the true story of cheating, fighting both w/ words & fist made up the majority of their relationship. So no one know what really is going on between any couple.

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