One of those "what's right about America" spiels. No argument that we have alot the majority of countries in the world don't have.  We didn't get that way by lucky accident. The cause and effect of our revolution and new concept of government had alot to do with it.

Some of the Founding Fathers complained about American pursuit of wealth and frivilous luxuries after we became a country. Among them, George Washington.  For all the blessings Mr. Leno lists, there remains problems to be solved and improvements to be made.

Gasoline prices skyrocketing, complete and utter disbelief running rampant, food prices through the roof, electric bills exploding, job losses mounting, housing crashing, rental prices falling, neighbors/friends/family walking away from their homes, bankruptcies erupting, FDIC closing banks, complete and utter disbelief running rampant, people killing eachother for rice, Countrywide imploding, sams club/costco/etc putting purchase limits on rice, storage facility auctions due to delinquencies doubling - don't you think that is a little odd in itself - storage is cheap, complete and utter disbelief running rampant, did you know postal rates are going up again monday?, consumers are pulling credit card debt at record levels (15 billion in march alone), stimulus rebate checks, Bear Stearns implosion, truckers going on strike, fannie mae and freddie mac raising money to fight insolvency, record lows for consumer confidence, complete and utter disbelief running rampant, Wendy's bought out, WAMU imploding, AIG/Citi/Fed Fraud, AIG sees no end to writedowns, Starbucks states worst consumer environment ever, inflation-inflation-inflation, SEC going bonkers, PRIME foreclosure rates have DOUBLED, Encap filed chapter 11, the city of Vallejo files bankruptcy, even casino's are filing BK,we are losing a phony war,our goverment lies to us daily...

Funny, I've just been posting on another blog about that very thing.  The founding fathers most likely would have been appalled at the laziness and sense of entitlement of todays people.  I can hear them saying..."If you won't do anything about it, you don't deserve it."  

It reminds me of people who were born to money and never had to earn a dime.  They let somone before them fight for it and now just expect it to keep rolling in with no effort on their part.

Maggie dear, you're being redundant.

Where DID you copy that from?

By the way..Jay Leno didn't write that.

http://www.snopes.com/polit...

Whenever you get something like that in email, it's best to ALWAYS check it out with www.snopes.com to see if it's true or not.  Doesn't mean it's not a good piece, just that it's attributed to the wrong person.

aww a gratitude list always brightens up the day................

Hi  Nancy ..its the content that got my interest..dont care who wrote it..its the truth and people need it shoved in their face..we have the power to make changes but we sit on our lazy spoiled bums and allow the few to make the descions for many. As long as we can go out to dinner, get our weekly paychecks, take a vacation once a year we could give a crap less about whats going on behind the scene..

Mark my words ITs gonna bite us in the butt someday and it could be very soon..might not be in my life time cause im an old fart but I cant see another 200 years of America if people keep on the same track..Did you see the report in the guy that develoed salt water fuel when he was looking for a cure for cancer..he was asked about big companys buying his idea and he said he was fine with it as long as he got enough money to continue his research ..We will all probably watch the video ..say WOW thats kewl ..but no one will ever do anything about it.because it will take HUGE CHANGE. As long as we as Americans were still fighting to survive we werent afraid to step up to the plate..now that we have developed a 'Soccer Mom Society' I just dont think we have it in us anymore until something very drastic happens..and its coming unlless we get off our lazy butts ...trouble is we are teaching our kids to be lazy too so Im losing hope. JMHO

WHat he *SHOULD* say as he resigns:  Nothing at all.  Anything he says could be used against him in court.

I hope we are in the crest of losing that apathy. If George Bush has accomplished anything, it's waking up Americans that you have to be proactive about what America is, and what it isn't. America is not great because of what he has done, it is great despite what he has done. I'm hoping the election turns out a record smashing number of voters, regardless of who they vote for.

Gube aint nothin like disagreeable moms on mothers day..even with the good things we are blessed with we are still complaining and Im as guilty about it as the next guy..its the worst virus we have in the world today.

If America is not great it's because WE allowed it.not because of what Bush has done.  Bottom line is this is supposed to be a nation where the people decide how things should be done.  If you all want the government to take care of everything up to and including your health care, then you reap what you sow.  I couldn't count the times on here that I've said letting the government control your lives is like making love to a gorilla.  You ain't done til the gorilla says you're done.

You want universal health care but you don't want them telling you what you can do with your body.  What you really want is to pick and choose.  And so do we all...it just usually doesn't work that way when the rules are for the good of all...not just you.

Sioux...Please note that I said it was good information.  You're the one who stated at the top that it was from Jay Leno. 

False logic, Nancy.  What if the American people decide they want the government to take over health insurance?  That's not a valid choice?

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You're judging a hypothetical health insurance agency on the basis of Shrub's poor performance.  We can do better than Shrub did.  Heck, your hypothetical gorilla swain could do better than Shrub has. 

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But "telling you what you can do with your body" is a conservative trait.  Why else would they be so intimately concerned with where individual appendages are placed, in the bedroom?

You folks probably have seen my Henny Penny comments so hopefully you understand that I don't see our future as dark and dour as some do.  Our country is like a tough old broad and will weather the storms just as she always has.

Personally, my blessings are too many to count even though I have a unknown future as a senior citizen.  I'm just of the old school where things will work out if you have faith and if you work for that future.  I'f Im a pollyanny so be it.  Tearing each other apart won't cut it folks. 

And now I'm off to a Mothers Day lunch with my family.  None of us rich, none of us famous, but we all believe.  We believe in each other, in ourselves and we believe in our future.  If you're talking about disagreeable moms, you aren't talking about me.

Discussing and debating is a far cry from disagreeable unless you use it in the literal sense.  I'm dis-agree-ing with the naysayers.

Toodles y'all.  Later.

RF..I was talking about abortion..you're being disingenious.  But you're cute.  and I'm gone.....  zoooooooommmm.

I was pointing out that there are medical procedures "conservatives" have no problem placing under government control, abortion being one of them. 

They also seem pruriently fascinated by what gays and lesbians do in bed, when the answer is simple:  pretty much the same thing straights do, just more of some and less of others.

Our government lies to me daily? So does my girlfriend! [SMACK!] OW!

Many of those who lost their houses shouldn't have bought them in the first place; they wanted to brag about being "homeowners." You reap what you sow.

Random, I know what lesbians do in bed. You can rent those videos all over town...

I know.  Conservative Americans are the best market for those.  Check the national porn sales--highest per-capita in the Red states.

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Higher divorce rates too--but the two are both effects, not causes.

I don't believe the majority of the population wants universal government controlled health care.

I also don't believe that conservatives are any more fascinated with what gays and lesbians do in bed than they are with what straights do in bed.  I won't argue that conservatives seem to get caught dipping the pen in the wrong inkwell more that Libs do but that may be because Libs are more careful.  I seriously doubt Reps are any more randy than Dems since I can't imagine their hormones knowing the difference in political parties. 

As for that last statement..are you saying that there's a poll showing that conservatives watch more porn than libs?  When was the last time anyone checked ID's for political party at the door of a porn shop?     Too funny. 

I don't believe they've been asked whether they want government-controlled single-payer health care, Nancy.  And for the most part, they don't know what it *IS*, since Republicans have been trying to scare them with it for years.

The government already runs one single-payer health insurance plan, and runs it better than privately-run insurers. 

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No, I said that "red" states watch more porn than "blue" ones.  "Blue" states like Massachussetts  have a better record on divorce than "red" ones like  The manufacturers know what side their bread is buttered on:

http://www.washingtonpost.c...

RF..ok, I wasn't sure if that was what you were saying or not.  I seriously doubt you'd ever get any accurate numbers on porn watchers since it isn't something most people will admit to if asked.  On a secret blind study ......maybe.  I wasn't addressing divorce numbers although strip bars, prostitution, bi sexual liaisons, porn shops and theaters do contribute to those numbers.

As for Universal health care.  Isn't it a little arrogant to say that "for the most part they don't know what it *IS*"?  Once again you're assuming people can't think or learn without help.  I said "I don't believe the majority of the population wants universal health care" stating it as a belief, not a fact.  All I have to go by is that no one I've ever talked to thought it was a good idea, including a couple of Canadians.

You're not giving the general populaton much credit for intelligent decisions.  As for the biggest single payer health care system right now being efficient, you'd have some who disagree with you if you're talking about Medicare.  I don't know a lot about it other than what I've studied myself and information given to me by friends and relatives but from what I can see it's confusing, misleading, NOT a single payer system in whole,  and can be very expensive.    I haven't met my $132 deductible yet and I don't know what my part will be once I do so can't make sweeping statements about it just yet.  Once I hit that mark, we'll see if I match up with all the different stories I've heard so far.  Even my doctor said they had no clue and had a hard time figuring it out when it first went into effect.

I was told I would get all these tests under the "Welcome To Medicare" program if I did it within 6 months after I signed up.  What they didn't tell me was that I had to meet the deductible first and pay my part after that.  I'm still scratching my head as to the benefit.

If this is a sample of single payer universal health care with all it's maize of options, then I feel for the people who will be using it if it ever gets passed

Random is right about blue states and red states, divorce-wise. Christian couples have a higher divorce rate than non-Christian couples, too.

That's cause Conservative Christian couples divorce when the hubby hanky pankies.  Those wives have principles ya know.    The Lib couples stay together and  run for president.

Bada bing.

That may be. It also may be that when the Christian couples are praying for help with their marital woes, the heathens are actually doing something about it.

" the heathens are actually doing something about it."   Yup, strategizing their next political move.

ROFL..I crack me up sometimes.

I kid you not..my spam code here is IIDEW.  How cool is that?

Couples who plan campaigns together, stay together.

Nancy, you're not going to get to run against the Clintons this time.  Just accept it.

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Hillary Clinton did what the conservatives *SAY* she should have done--stayed in the marriage and made it work.  They'll never forgive her for that.   It probably helped that Bill was into girls and not boys, as in a typical Republican political marriage...

Cant argue with that statement RF...   Funny how the Liberals are more "liberal" about things like boys with boys but the conservatives seem to be the ones caught at it.    They're prolly just they're the ones dumb enough to get caught.

Howsumever, I'm not convinced that either side isn't as guilty as the other of all kinds of behavior.  While the left loves to talk about how righteous Cons are about sexual misconduct while practicing it, the Dems are every bit as bad about the practice.  I don't think being all high and mighty about it makes Reps.  any worse...just a bit more hypocritical.

As for the Clintons..... If people can still talk about Reagan and Bush,  (they aren't running either) I can talk about Hilary and Bill.

Or did I misunderstand the comment?  It was a bit ambigious since I'm not married, in politics, or running.  (To the relief of many here I'm sure )  :-)

Nancy, *THAT* many dumb Republicans?  Well, I guess I could believe it...

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LOL..good one RF.

Actually I have little use for ANY politician regardless of party but one thing is sure.  They are human beings (as much as we'd like to believe otherwise) and many of them can't keep their pants zipped.  The power, the "glory", the groupies, the hangers on, the yes men (and women) all make for a powerful temptation that a large share aren't able to resist.  Or are so arrogant they feel they're above everyone.  Whatever the reason, some people in corporate america, politic, oilfields, will cheat on their spouses, divorce their spouses, mess with the same sex, cheat, lie, fail us, and, in general act like humans.  We just expect more from public leaders and when they fall short, Democrats or Republicans, we crucify them.  We don't like out leaders to have clay feet.  It's just not done doncha know?

When our belief system clashes as it does with Cons and Libs, all the ones on the other side are fair game....it's just the way it is.  You say potato, I say potahto.......

Geez!  Where'd these clouds come from?  My feet are freezing.

Audrey, I was just thinking the same thing.  I have my BR window cracked about 4 inches with the blind up to the edge.  I had to lower the blind as my arm on that side has icicles on it and my feet are also freezing.  I'd put socks on but in a couple of hours would be pulling them off.

I have a jasmine to plant that Mark got me yesterday and a queen palm to finish potting outside my window but it's coooold out there.

I need to spray paint my porch swing, but don't want to try it in this wind. 

I think there's a direct connection between the kind of brazenness which lets people think they can get away with it, and the kind that lets people think they should run for public office, Nancy.

Some people don't give any importance to self-worth. 

The kind of person who can stretch the truth, or lie, or cheat, day in and day out, knowing full well that most of the world thinks that they are scum, is the kind of person who can, without qualms, badger you into a subprime home loan that will blow up in your face, sell you an iron of a car that will blow up in your face, or run for political office and win at all costs.

The sort of person least intimidated by the ruthlessness of politicking is often the sort of person that is least intimidated by conscience itself.

Ah!  the power of working in the WH is intoxicating.   Even the offical toilet paper replacer gets all the girl action he can handle.

You are probably entirely correct  on that point  RF.

LOL..good one Audrey.

I don't know..I kind of liked it when he was addressing the journalist's dinner that one night...I had no clue that he has a sense of humor...I cracked up for awhile....then my nephew called and needed a ride to the armory-(Army)....but first I needed to get some gas so I could go across town and do this thing...so much for the sense of humor.....

Good conversation this morning folks.  Thanks.  Looks like people have wandered off for the time being so it's a good time for me to go do something useful.  I believe The Golden Girls are on so I can check the couch for springs.

Interesting that you mention Golden Girls. I heard the song from their show on the radio last night (Thank you for being a Friend). I had no idea it was an actual song.

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