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John McCain's remarks about the Pledge of Allegiance
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posted by
siouxcityranch
on May 14, 2008 at 06:49 AM
I posted this because Im so tired of seeing that picture of YOBAMA refusing to give the pledge of allegiance I cant stand it. posted by
ChicoEsquela
on May 14, 2008 at 06:59 AM
Siouxcity, some things just never get old. (and your post is just one of em) And some people don't like things that DO get old! (read John McCain) They are short sighted enough to not think about their getting there someday. Age is one thing its OK in society today (Logan's Run again) to denigrate with complete and utter impunity is..... AGE! Of coors, there's also: Christianity White People RedNecks Conservatives "Old Fashioned" views The Unborn I could go on, but you get the basic idea......................... posted by
siouxcityranch
on May 14, 2008 at 08:50 AM
Personally I get tired of hearing people EVEN considering Obama or Clinton as leaders of our nation. Its like a night mare that wont go away..actually I ain't CRAZY about anyone at this point... But IF I accidently read something that is positive (like this) and not negative like that sacreligious picture of Yobama disrespecting our forefathers, along with all of our soldiers who have fought and died in the past ,not too mention our Homeland of today even with all its aches and pains. The man needs to be expelled from our political system all together. Sorry Im not open minded enough to accept undeserving idiots like those two.. posted by
jfrancais
on May 14, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Obama doesn't "refuse" to pledge allegiance to the flag. If you don't like him, that's fine. But at least be truthful. posted by
onionlvr
on May 14, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Has this guy done anything besides being a POW? Saying the pledge or not doesn't make people more or less patriotic. What about the people that TRY to say the pledge and muck it up? Are they less patriotic? When did Obama "refuse" to pledge, he doesn't put his hand on his chest but I believe he recites. You people and your symbols will be the death of this country posted by
randomfactor
on May 14, 2008 at 10:33 AM
They can't be truthful, jfrancis. "Facts have a liberal bias," remember? . He has done other stuff, onionlvr. Look up "Keating 5" in Wikipedia. But he's reversed himself on all of the good stuff in the past few years so as to be more Republican. posted by
BrownVaporTrail
on May 14, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Rush Limbaugh used to say that liberalism was "symbolism over substance." In practice, the right wing seems to have the greater appetite for rote symbolism. It has become more important to walk and quack like a duck than it is to be a real duck that doesn't quack so much. posted by
jfrancais
on May 14, 2008 at 10:45 AM
I've been in the military since '98. I can't remember the last time I said the pledge of allegiance. Does that make me less patriotic? posted by
AudreyB
on May 14, 2008 at 10:45 AM
I think he finally "gets it". He's starting wearing a flag in his lapel. Next Michele will start talking about how she's always been "proud to be an American". posted by
jfrancais
on May 14, 2008 at 10:48 AM
If you've listened to his speeches, he mentions how sometimes he does wear it and sometimes he doesn't. He didn't just start wearing it. It's just not a part of his uniform.
spam code: wfgas (wif gas?) Chico, did you send that? posted by
sagefever
on May 14, 2008 at 11:13 AM
I actually saw a democrat in the last election say she could not vote for Obama because he is Muslim.1. He is not 2. Whats wrong with being a Muslim,American Muslims want to know? The facts are not hard to find,just quit relying on those emails that get sent around,and do some real research.
posted by
siouxcityranch
on May 14, 2008 at 03:12 PM
http://www.eyeblast Oh and I did check to see if this was the truth b4 I posted it..still had meaning to me and the way I was taught. I cant beleive your as old as you are and you dont feel the same. Did you loose loved ones in Viet Nam? Our boy came home from Baghdad with a scar on his neck from a bullet and was hit in the back by shrapnel from a mortar attack ..keeping all of you people free so you can give "YOUR OPINIONS" on these freakin blogs. ..Ill be damned if I agree with some of you saying "ITs OK" to disrespect our flag pledge or what ever ESPECIALLY if you are running for the highest office in our land...AND NO Im not real CRAZY about Muslims right now..obviously you havent been doing much research. Ive seen first hand some of the pictures you wont ever see..of what your MUSLIMS have been doing over there..the murder of Christians besides our soldiers. But go ahead turn on your AC and your computers and enjoy what my son and his friends are sacrificing for you. posted by
sagefever
on May 14, 2008 at 05:55 PM
Well..I hardly know where to start.Much of what you say is quite true,and while I support you son and all of our boys and girls "over there", and Thank them for what they are doing,I do not support the war there. My nephew was there twice,a Marine. The story McCain tells is the truth,but the part about Obama refusing to say the pledge is not.That picture is of him standing during the national anthem,the Flag code is only a suggestion for behavior not the law but we been over this a million and a half times and clearly we will disagree.That does not make me or you less of an American. Many Muslims are terrible people ,just as many Christians are,just like many atheists are etc. I do not believe perpetuating the cycle of hate helps anybody,it just generates more hate.There is enough of this already in the world. We do need to protect ourselves,but going to a country that did not attack us does not make sense to me. P.S. In 20 years I will be,by gods good grace deader than a doornail,but I love mutton(Scottish ya know) so I'll eat some soon.Camping
posted by
drilnliftcrude
on May 14, 2008 at 06:44 PM
Wow. Reading the comments on this thread really brought home the point of this article I read yesterday. "Democrats always want cultural issues not to matter because they are on the least-popular side of many of them, and want patriotic symbols like the Pledge of Allegiance and flag pins to be irrelevant when they can’t manage to nominate presidential candidates who wholeheartedly embrace them (which shouldn’t be that difficult)." I've seen his new lapel pin, but haven't heard much about it in the MSM.
I'm sure if someone like any of his opponents had made that gaff, it would have been treated just as lightly by the media.
posted by
sagefever
on May 14, 2008 at 06:57 PM
P.S. I always say the pledge of allegiance,stand respectfully during the anthem and when the Flag passes by me,if wearing a hat I remove it,placing it over my heart and have worn an American Flag pin on most occasions beginning in 1968~ I own 4. I also still pull over to the side of the road when a funeral passes me~bonus points?
posted by
jfrancais
on May 16, 2008 at 06:58 AM
Again, Obama doesn't disrespect the flag and he has said several times that he pledges alegiance to the flag and sometimes he wears the stupid pin on his lapel and other times he doesn't. This ostentatious form of patriotism really has no meaning. Anybody can wear a pin, flag, or ribbon yet give a rat's booty to any of it's "propagandic" insinuations. I mean... who doesn't "support our troops"? Do we really need a ribbon to quote the obvious? Public service or dedication to a cause might be a better indicator. If we "turn our AC and our computers" and talk about how many relatives we've had hurt or killed are we more patriotic? It means nothing. What have any of you done to fill this void of inner patriotism? posted by
Maggiepoo
on May 17, 2008 at 04:58 AM
GOP House Leaders Disrespect American Flag
We all know by now that Barack Obama is not a patriot. After all, he doesn't always wear a flag pin, and he objects to the idea the he should be required to in order to run for office. But who knew that House Minority Leader John Boehner disrespects the flag too? Obama has been attacked repeatedly for not wearing a flag pin, with Republicans claiming that his patriotism is in question. It's all a bit silly. After all, John McCain hasn't worn a flag since he became the de facto Republican nominee. But let's grant the inanity for a moment. For a party that is suddenly obsessed with proper deference to the flag, their leaders are pretty clueless. Check out this picture from a press conference with Republican House leaders yesterday. Notice anything off? If you're a bit of a flag-o-phile, you might recognize that the flag is hanging the wrong way. According to the document "Our Flag," (pdf) printed under approval of Senate Concurrent Resolution 108, Chapter 6.i: The correct position is displayed below, as well as a shot of the Democratic leadership showing due deference to the American flag. So Boehner -- aka the GOP's newest commie pinko -- allowed the American flag to fly incorrectly throughout his press conference. At least Obama's flag pin is a replica; the Republicans disgraced the actual flag. Silly? Unbelievably. As is the whole issue. http://www.huffingtonpost.c... posted by
sys_mom
on May 28, 2008 at 08:11 AM
Thank you SCR. That link http://www.eyeblast
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