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siouxcityranch - > -> John McCain's remarks about the Pledge of Allegiance
John McCain's remarks about the Pledge of Allegiance


In light of the recent appeals court ruling in California, with respect to the Pledge of Allegiance, the following recollection from Senator John McCain is very appropriate:
 
'The Pledge of Allegiance' - by Senator John McCain
'As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men to a room.
 
This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000 miles from home.

 
One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian.
Mike came from a small town near Selma , Alabama . He didn't wear a pair of shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by going to Officer Training School Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military provide for people who want to work and want to succeed.

 
As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing.

 
Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt.
 
Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance.
 
I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most important and meaningful event.

 
One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it.
 
That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours. Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as well as we could.
 
The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which we slept Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room.
 
As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag. He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country.
 
So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build our nation and promote freedom around the world. You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country.'

Posted in the Politics interest group.
Topics: presidential race republican John McCain
posted by siouxcityranch on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 08:03 PM
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posted by siouxcityranch on May 14, 2008 at 06:49 AM

I posted this because Im so tired of seeing that picture of YOBAMA refusing to give the pledge of allegiance I cant stand it.

posted by ChicoEsquela on May 14, 2008 at 06:59 AM

Siouxcity, some things just never get old.  (and your post is just one of em)

And some people don't like things that DO get old!  (read John McCain)

They are short sighted enough to not think about their getting there someday.

Age is one thing its OK in society today (Logan's Run again) to denigrate with complete and utter impunity is..... AGE!

Of coors, there's also:

Christianity

White People

RedNecks

Conservatives

"Old Fashioned" views

The Unborn

I could go on, but you get the basic idea.........................

posted by siouxcityranch on May 14, 2008 at 08:50 AM

Personally I get tired of hearing people EVEN considering Obama or Clinton as leaders of our nation. Its like a night mare that wont go away..actually I ain't CRAZY about anyone at this point... But IF I accidently read something that is positive (like this) and not negative like that sacreligious picture of Yobama disrespecting our forefathers, along with all of our soldiers who have fought and died in the past ,not too mention our Homeland of today even with all its aches and pains. The man needs to be expelled from our political system all together. Sorry Im not open minded enough to accept undeserving idiots like those two..

posted by jfrancais on May 14, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Obama doesn't "refuse" to pledge allegiance to the flag. If you don't like him, that's fine. But at least be truthful.

posted by onionlvr on May 14, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Has this guy done anything besides being a POW?

Saying the pledge or not doesn't make people more or less patriotic. What about the people that TRY to say the pledge and muck it up? Are they less patriotic?

When did Obama "refuse" to pledge, he doesn't put his hand on his chest but I believe he recites. You people and your symbols will be the death of this country

posted by randomfactor on May 14, 2008 at 10:33 AM

They can't be truthful, jfrancis.  "Facts have a liberal bias," remember?

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He has done other stuff, onionlvr.    Look up "Keating 5" in Wikipedia.

But he's reversed himself on all of the good stuff in the past few years so as to be more Republican.

posted by BrownVaporTrail on May 14, 2008 at 10:35 AM

Rush Limbaugh used to say that liberalism was "symbolism over substance."  In practice, the right wing seems to have the greater appetite for rote symbolism.  It has become more important to walk and quack like a duck than it is to be a real duck that doesn't quack so much.

posted by jfrancais on May 14, 2008 at 10:45 AM

I've been in the military since '98. I can't remember the last time I said the pledge of allegiance. Does that make me less patriotic?

posted by AudreyB on May 14, 2008 at 10:45 AM

I think he finally "gets it".  He's starting wearing a flag in his lapel.   Next Michele will start talking about how she's always been "proud to be an American".

posted by jfrancais on May 14, 2008 at 10:48 AM

If you've listened to his speeches, he mentions how sometimes he does wear it and sometimes he doesn't. He didn't just start wearing it. It's just not a part of his uniform.

 

spam code: wfgas (wif gas?) Chico, did you send that?

posted by sagefever on May 14, 2008 at 11:13 AM

I actually saw a democrat in the last election say she could not vote for Obama because he is Muslim.1. He is not 2. Whats wrong with being a Muslim,American Muslims want to know?

The facts are not hard to find,just quit relying on those emails that get sent around,and do some real research.

 

posted by siouxcityranch on May 14, 2008 at 03:12 PM

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036 
   says it all Sage says it all...20 years from now when ur livin in a tent eatting goat meat ..REMEMBER

Oh and I did check to see if this was the truth b4 I posted it..still had meaning to me and the way I was taught. I cant beleive your as old as you are and you dont feel the same. Did you loose loved ones in Viet Nam?

Our boy came home from Baghdad with a scar on his neck from a bullet and was hit in the back by shrapnel from a mortar attack ..keeping all of you people free so you can give "YOUR OPINIONS" on these freakin blogs. ..Ill be damned if I agree with some of you saying  "ITs OK" to disrespect our flag pledge or what ever ESPECIALLY if you are running for the highest office in our land...AND NO Im not real CRAZY about Muslims right now..obviously you havent been doing much research. Ive seen first hand some of the pictures you wont ever see..of what your MUSLIMS have been doing over there..the murder of Christians besides our soldiers. But go ahead turn on your AC and your computers and enjoy what my son and his friends are sacrificing for you.

posted by sagefever on May 14, 2008 at 05:55 PM

Well..I hardly know where to start.Much of what you say is quite true,and while I support you son and all of our boys and girls "over there", and Thank them for what they are doing,I do not support the war there. My nephew was there twice,a Marine.

The story McCain tells is the truth,but the part about Obama refusing to say the pledge is not.That picture is of him standing during the national anthem,the Flag code is only a suggestion for behavior not the law but we been over this a million and a half times and clearly we will disagree.That does not make me or you less of an American.

Many Muslims are terrible people ,just as many Christians are,just like many atheists are etc. I do not believe perpetuating the cycle of hate helps anybody,it just generates more hate.There is enough of this already in the world. We do need to protect ourselves,but going to a country that did not attack us does not make sense to me.

P.S. In 20 years I will be,by gods good grace deader than a doornail,but I love mutton(Scottish ya know) so I'll eat some soon.Camping

 

posted by drilnliftcrude on May 14, 2008 at 06:44 PM

Wow.  Reading the comments on this thread really brought home the point of this article I read yesterday.

"Democrats always want cultural issues not to matter because they are on the least-popular side of many of them, and want patriotic symbols like the Pledge of Allegiance and flag pins to be irrelevant when they can’t manage to nominate presidential candidates who wholeheartedly embrace them (which shouldn’t be that difficult)."

I've seen his new lapel pin, but haven't heard much about it in the MSM.

 

I'm sure if someone like any of his opponents had made that gaff, it would have been treated just as lightly by the media.

 

 

posted by sagefever on May 14, 2008 at 06:57 PM

P.S. I always say the pledge of allegiance,stand respectfully during the anthem and when the Flag passes by me,if wearing a hat I remove it,placing it over my heart and have worn an American Flag pin on most occasions beginning in 1968~ I own 4. I also still pull over to the side of the road when a funeral passes me~bonus points?

 

posted by jfrancais on May 16, 2008 at 06:58 AM

Again, Obama doesn't disrespect the flag and he has said several times that he pledges alegiance to the flag and sometimes he wears the stupid pin on his lapel and other times he doesn't. This ostentatious form of patriotism really has no meaning. Anybody can wear a pin, flag, or ribbon yet give a rat's booty to any of it's "propagandic" insinuations. I mean... who doesn't "support our troops"? Do we really need a ribbon to quote the obvious? Public service or dedication to a cause might be a better indicator. If we "turn our AC and our computers" and talk about how many relatives we've had hurt or killed are we more patriotic? It means nothing. What have any of you done to fill this void of inner patriotism?

posted by Maggiepoo on May 17, 2008 at 04:58 AM

GOP House Leaders Disrespect American Flag

We all know by now that Barack Obama is not a patriot. After all, he doesn't always wear a flag pin, and he objects to the idea the he should be required to in order to run for office. But who knew that House Minority Leader John Boehner disrespects the flag too?

Obama has been attacked repeatedly for not wearing a flag pin, with Republicans claiming that his patriotism is in question. It's all a bit silly. After all, John McCain hasn't worn a flag since he became the de facto Republican nominee.

But let's grant the inanity for a moment. For a party that is suddenly obsessed with proper deference to the flag, their leaders are pretty clueless. Check out this picture from a press conference with Republican House leaders yesterday.

2008-05-16-boehnerflag.jpg

Notice anything off? If you're a bit of a flag-o-phile, you might recognize that the flag is hanging the wrong way. According to the document "Our Flag," (pdf) printed under approval of Senate Concurrent Resolution 108, Chapter 6.i:

The correct position is displayed below, as well as a shot of the Democratic leadership showing due deference to the American flag.

So Boehner -- aka the GOP's newest commie pinko -- allowed the American flag to fly incorrectly throughout his press conference. At least Obama's flag pin is a replica; the Republicans disgraced the actual flag.

Silly? Unbelievably. As is the whole issue.

http://www.huffingtonpost.c...

 

posted by sys_mom on May 28, 2008 at 08:11 AM

Thank you SCR.  That link http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036  was interesting. 

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