Bush would look decent in CDC Blue...  Wonder what colors they confer upon crooks in Texas?

Yeah you hate mongering leftists. You should have compassion like the right, you know, all those conservatives who are wishing Cam's hubby well after his motorcycle accident.

Oh wait, the only conservative to wish them well was Steve. Way to go Steve, you skewed the compassion stats.

Well, that's one more picture coming off the most wanted list...

I mailed Robertson a gift certificate today....

bakodon, I'm a registered Republican, and a conservative/moderate, and I'm tickled pink that Falwell bit the wong.

Hopefully Pat Robertson will follow him very soon!

Die, die, die with festering boils....DIE!

Let me get this straight, BLT.  The police who don't immediately arrest a murderer before the investigation, and the prosecutor who declines to prosecute the case until the suspect is arrested, are accomplices? 

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Me, I'm holding out for thwarting the criminals' every attempt to destroy the evidence, investigating the situation thoroughly, and then impeaching in January 2009.

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And what's this "*IF*" Bush and Cheney are criminals?

Next on my top ten wish list to die is....

“By taking this firm stance Dobson could very well be the Rosa Parks of intolerance.”
— Humorist Steven Colbert, mocking Focus on the Family’s James Dobson for saying that federal hate crimes legislation intended to protect LGBT people could “pave the way to religious persecution in this country,”

Hopefulling to be followed shortly by Pat Robertson and Lou Sheldon

A week from yesterday, I think, Dusty.  Next Wednesday.

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We've got millions of felonies committed by Bush, and he refused this morning to deny his guilt.  That's OK, he can plead the Fifth in front of the committee.

"Next on my top ten wish list to die is...."

That clears it up for me.  I guess hate is no issue for you. 

As for the democrats here who are calling Bush and Cheney criminals, you seem to be out of step with your "fearless" leaders.  Your sentiments and theirs simply don't match, unless they are being deceiptful and concealing their true sentiments.

So I'd save a little of your anger towards your own leaders, who are failing to insert even a bit of backbone if, in fact, they share your sentiments at all.   They would never suggested that Bush or Cheney have done anything that would rise to the level of criminal, they have consistently dismissed and distanced themselves from any suggestion of impeachment, and they have now expressed a wish to compromise on a plan for Iraq that will now be bereft of any witholding of funds and dates for withdrawal.  Only Kennedy will pull his money where his mouth is.  The rest are either incredibly disengenuous, or they are abject cowards.  Which is it? 

Blognroll...nope actually goes against what I stand for but when a group of powerful people use religion and politics to attack me, my family, my community then I dont have any love or respect for them.

Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Lou Sheldon, Dubya, Karl Rove have all worked to deny my civil rights and the rights of my brothers and sisters who happen to by gay or people of color.

Doc, there's a difference between wishing people would die because you dislike their opinions, and wishing people would die because those people are deliberately trying to harm you.

The people that SFinboston lists are deliberately trying to harm us.

Hope to be able to watch it, if I get off in time.  It's like 7 in the morning our time, I think.  Can at least set the VCR.

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I'm personally not putting much hope in Goodling's testimony.  Bet she suffers from precocious alzheimer's.

Hardliner, anyway I look at it, the wish for somebody to die is born of hatred, not towards a person's behavior, or a person's ideology, but hatred for the person at the very core of that person's being. 

Are you saying that in some cases, hatred is justified and that it is productive? 

well put it this way...if James dobson fell down and needed CPR I wouldnt give him any. I would just stand by and watch. I know this goes against my budhist beliefs and I will pay big time w/ Karma, but James & Jerry have both threaten my community and cause countless pain our families.

Hate: denying civil rights, calling people perverts, diseased, etc etc etc etc..James & Jerry neither are men of god...more like men of power & greed.

Subtle question.  If she *HAD* plead the Fifth in response to specific questions, and then was granted immunity, and then said she couldn't recall, she'd be what's for breakfast under the butter and marmalade. 

But picture it:

"I can't recall whether I have any memory of that."

"Then why were you going to plead the Fifth?"

"Oh, that was about something else, something I was SO SURE you'd ask me, but you never did.  I was worried over nothing, ha-ha."

If Dobson were stricken and needed CPR...I hope his dog would be the first responder.

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well put it this way...if James dobson fell down and needed CPR I wouldnt give him any. I would just stand by and watch. I know this goes against my budhist beliefs and I will pay big time w/ Karma, but James & Jerry have both threaten my community and cause countless pain our families.

Hate divides.  Love, despite ideological differences, unites, and makes a country strong.  Hatred on the left fuels hatred on the right and breeds extremism.  Hatred on the right has the same effect. 

Hateful rhetoric from the left breeds, empowers, aids and provides comfort to the Jerry Falwells of the world. 

That's why Dobson, Falwell and their ilk are so scared of love, BLT.  That's why they need to channel the concept of "love" into so strict a framework, decide whom others can and cannot marry, whom others can and cannot publicly love.

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Does *THEIR* hatred of liberals, gays and the like not divide?  

I was not glad that Saddam was mocked profusely and then hung.  I'm glad he was stopped from doing further evil, but I wish he could have been stopped in other ways, like agreeing to comply with the agreements between Iraq and the United Nations. 

That being said, none of us, if subjected to intense scrutiny, could survive the hypocricy test.  We are all hypocrites on some level.  We should strive not to be, and we should not give up our ideals simply because we have not always lived up to them.  My ideal is a world where left-wingers, right-wingers and moderates all get along.  Is it wrong to hold to such an ideal, given, that I, a mere mortal, am not always able to live up to it? 

BLT, it is not wrong to hope for such an ideal.  It *IS* wrong to use such a call for to make all sides abide by a situation forced on one side by the other.  It is reminiscent of the character in the old "Ally McBeal" TV show who would be discovered in some abhorrent behavior and then simply wave a hand and say "Bygones," expecting a fresh start.

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I'm not talking about the settling of scores.  I'm talking about the righting of wrongs.  What Falwell, Dobson and his cohort have helped force upon the nation is *WRONG*.  I will not allow it to become the status quo. 

Doc wrote, "Hardliner, anyway I look at it, the wish for somebody to die is born of hatred, not towards a person's behavior, or a person's ideology, but hatred for the person at the very core of that person's being. "

Interesting point, my man.

I think that when someone dedicates their entire mature life to trying to harm others out of sheer malice -- and shows no sign of abating or letting up as they reach their later and later years -- then it becomes more likely true that hate, malice, and evil are the very core of that person's being. 

Dobson, Falwell, D. James Kennedy, and Wildmon are continuing their sustained acts of aggression against fellow Americans with no sign of letting up.  By every outward indication, they will continue to try to harm fellow Americans until they are physically unable to continue doing so.  Therefore, I conclude that malice and evil are the very core of their beings.

It is acceptable to hate such people and rejoice when they die.  There is such a thing, I believe, as a genuinely, totally, evil person.  They are very few in number, but they do exist.

Jerry & James tainted my views of christian, even though I was raised in a christian home. I have to constantly remind my self that these men really didnt speak for God or Jesus Christ. Also, I remind myself not all christians similar to James & Jerry.

Funny those who are upset that I am happy that Jerry Falwell is dead are the same people who vote to deny my equality as a fellow citizen. These are the same people who didnt speak out when gay men were beaten to death such as Matt Shepard.

You won't find very many "good" Christians, if any, or any perfect role models who are Christians.  That's why Christians need a savior.  You wouldn't need a savior if you were not a sinner. If you want to be a Christian, follow Jesus, don't follow mortal men, subject to corruption on every level. 

It is fine to hate a given behavior or pattern of behavior, and to deem that behavior, or set of behaviors abhorent.  It is not fine, in my belief system, to hate the person or to spread hatred towards those who harbor different beliefs about the best direction for this nation.   I've never witnessed you spreading hatred, random. 

To apply my argument in the specific case of Falwell, he was originally against mixing church and state when the state was being used to help people -- namely, the Civil Rights movement.

He changed his view on mixing church and state when it dawned on him that the state is an equally effective tool for hurting people.

He was against religion in politics when it meant helping people, and turned in favor of it when it meant hurting people.

People who dedicate their entire lives to hurting others are evil people at their very deepest cores.

Doc, one more distinction:

When "we" (meaning social liberals and/or humanists) choose to hate someone, we hate the individual, based on their long and steady track record of remorseless malice and efforts to hurt people.  When we decide that someone is worth hating, it is the end result of that individual's long and uninterrupted track record of malice.

In other words, for someone to be hated by us, that someone must work really hard at it.

They, on the other hand (and this includes a lot of Bush's blind locksteppers), choose to hate entire groups of people without qualification and without provocation.  They just decide in advance to hate "liberals," humanists, atheists, etc., and they hate all of them in advance.  Not only do they choose to hate all such people, but they resist and/or ignore any information that might give them fewer reasons to hate.

Theirs is a "pre-emptive" hatred borne of internal, intrinsic malice and aggression toward whole groups of people.  Our hatred, when we do hate, is a self-defensive reaction against individual persons that hardens into hatred when a given individual has made it plainly obvious that they have no intention of refraining from harming us.