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Arrest made in Jon Benet case
Well it only took ten years but they have finally arrested someone in connection with the death of Jon Benet Ramsey.
For those of you who have been visiting another planet for the past decade, here is a good summary of the case on CNN.com. Actually, here is an even better summary from CourtTV. So folks, what do you think? I for one never thought there would an arrest in this case. And after all these years you've got to wonder if they'll make the charges stick. 31 comments from 15 users
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posted by
anonymous
on Aug 16, 2006 at 07:11 PM
They finally caught the Butler?
posted by
JeffHarbin
on Aug 16, 2006 at 07:22 PM
Her parents were fortunate to live in Colorado, and not Korn County.
posted by
Glocker
on Aug 16, 2006 at 07:23 PM
It's one more piece of filth off the streets if proved true. It's also a prime example of how cases tried in the media can cause major problems with finding the truth. Can you imagine what horrors the family has gone through? First to loose their baby, then to have themselves named as suspects? I truly feel for the family. It's sad that Mrs. Ramsey would not live long enough to see this day.
I'm curious as to why you think making the charges stick has anything to do with the time lapse? Cold cases are solved every day. Evidence is evidence. If they have it and can tie this man to it along with the "alleged" statements he made then it does not matter if it was yesterday or 3 decades ago. Thank God for the perseverance of this D.A. How refreshing to have a D.A. seemingly without ulterior motives other than finding the truth and extracting justice. I wonder what that is like? posted by
steveeswenson
on Aug 17, 2006 at 08:12 AM
The fat lady hasn't sung on this one yet.The suspect's ex-wife says she was with him in another state when JonBenet was killed, and that he was obsessed with reading about JonBenet and Polly Klaas, the Petaluma girl who was abducted and slain in 1993. I worry when an ex-wife is an alibi witness. I confess that when I heard there was an arrest in this case, my first response was, "The father?" I would like it not to be the father but this case is about as weird as it gets in a homicide investigation. posted by
NancyII
on Aug 17, 2006 at 08:16 AM
Agreed Steve. It's awfully convenient that this guy "confessed." It would be interesting to know if he can give all the details that match what they already know. And to find out if the DNA matches. Just from the pictures and what little I read, he didn't seem altogether,....together.
posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 17, 2006 at 10:07 AM
I'm willing to wait for the trial. Too bad the cable "news" outlets aren't.
posted by
randomfactor
on Aug 17, 2006 at 11:15 AM
Looks like Mucus has been sniffing the EDTA again...
posted by
Glocker
on Aug 17, 2006 at 11:20 AM
WSJ, I'm curious you base your theory about the mother and the "cleaner" on what?
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 17, 2006 at 11:43 AM
mucus in the morning, what can you say! This Cheney butt sniffer is the life of the party over at the home, but he is harmless.
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 17, 2006 at 11:58 AM
If Karr proves to be that someone looking for 15 mins. of fame then an intruder, if still alive, remains on the loose. The Ramseys have been unjustly accused, vilified and crucified. Their only "crime" was being too social, too friendly and too trusting of people they met. Is it possible the intruder was present in the house more than once and this accounts for the length of the ransom note plus the use of Ramsey household writing paper?
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 17, 2006 at 12:01 PM
"He is just about to be arrest in Thailand" is kind of late the 24/7 media already has him hung, so why waste a trial?
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 17, 2006 at 12:53 PM
Boy am I surprised. I would have bet money that the mother did it.
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 17, 2006 at 01:30 PM
I,am just a person who feels , the Ramseys should have never been put though all the pain.
I also believe that they have the right man, from what he has siad. There are things that he has said that seems to be unknown to the investgaters. posted by
anonymous
on Aug 17, 2006 at 03:36 PM
Leave it to Mocus to insinuate that Nancy Disgrace is a liberal. I don't think I've EVER saw her call someone innocent .
She always has that disgusted "who just passed gas look" on her face. posted by
antiextremism
on Aug 18, 2006 at 10:43 AM
I'm not so sure they have the right guy. Not that he's not guilty of some crimes, just maybe not this one. It would be nice for the family to get some closure.
posted by
MyLefteFoot
on Aug 18, 2006 at 11:39 AM
Uh Oh. It's beginning to look as though Mr. High Pockets may be just a common, garden variety nut.
Did the Boulder PD jump the gun again? posted by
mattloch
on Aug 18, 2006 at 02:18 PM
Who cares? I couldn't figure out everyone's obsession with it ten years ago, and still can't figure it out. The only good thing that came out of it was the exposure of those kiddy pr0n events they call "beauty pageants" and the crazy psychotic moms that push their daughters into it. You know, the ones that paint their four year olds up to look like hookers with too much mascara and lipstick and have them act like Mae West, batting their eyes and leering suggestively at the judges. You know, the ones that scream at their kids when they miss a step in their flaming-baton and tap dance number. You know, the ones that push their kids from 3:00 till 10:00 to practice, and reduce them to tears by the fifth hour of doing the same thing over and over, "no no honey sugar bottom, you have to roll your eyes then sashay away from the judges. What are you, stupid? Do it again or you'll be a loser! You don't want to be a loser, do you sweetums?" You know, the ones that push their daughters to be brainless shells, so that they can somehow redeem their own failed life?. Where's Mocus when you need him? How about it, Moc? What do you have to say about "beauty pageant" parents? I know this guy (the person who admitted it, not Mocus) is turning out to be an unstable wingnut, but what about the "larger picture" here? posted by
anonymous
on Aug 18, 2006 at 02:20 PM
For someone who's not obsessed with it, you know a lot about the JonBenet case. posted by
anonymous
on Aug 18, 2006 at 02:53 PM
This guy looks like Lee Harvey Oswald, mucus you be Jack Ruby, OK? Naw all white guys look alike.
posted by
NancyII
on Aug 18, 2006 at 10:26 PM
I was listening to a caller describe the things parents will do to their child in beauty pagaent competition. She said when the childs teeth start to come out some parents will have the rest pulled and have them fitted for dentures until their other teeth come in. Can't ruin that gorgeous smile ya know. I have no idea if this is true or not but it wouldn't surprise me.As for the supposed killer..I agree that he's a graden variety nut job. He said he drugged her but no drugs were found in her system. He said he raped her but the report I heard today said she hadn't been raped. Anyone hear any other stories? Again...like Will Rogers said "I only know what I read in the papers." posted by
anonymous
on Aug 19, 2006 at 10:48 AM
I agree, the guy looks like your garden variety nut case looking for his 15 minutes of fame. It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. I always thought the Ramsey's were hiding something, but never had a real idea of what it was. At first I thought they were protecting their son. It seemed reasonable that since they'd lost one child they would try to save the other. But the DNA in JonBenet's panties would rule out a family member without the family giving DNA samples. They had JonBenet's DNA. So beyond that I'm perplexed.
posted by
AudreyB
on Aug 20, 2006 at 04:46 PM
The suspect has been married two times. This fact alone is surprising. posted by
NancyII
on Aug 20, 2006 at 05:00 PM
We were discussing the second wife situation last night and it was reported by her atty that she wants nothing to do with him and has restraining orders against him. He said she said (there's that phrase again) that she was concerned that she might be helping him by providing an alibi for the time that JonBenet was killed.The thought around this house was that he must have done something really terrible for her to have such hard feelings and for her not to want him around their kids unsupervised AND to make her feelings publically known. I can't know since I wasn't there but I've had doubts about his being "the one" since this whole thing broke. It just doesn't sit right with me. Somethings off kilter here. We may never know the truth. posted by
AudreyB
on Aug 20, 2006 at 05:07 PM
My feelings, exactly, about the case. It doesn't add up. I sure don't want to go back to square one and have the parents be suspects #1 #2 though.posted by
NancyII
on Aug 20, 2006 at 05:15 PM
I don't think any of us want to believe a parent could be the killer..even though we've seen it over and over. It's just bizarre that in all these years they never found clues pointing to anyone else.Odd that this brings back the Lindburg baby kidnapping case to my mind. There are people to this day who don't believe Hauptman actually did the kidnapping and killing. There are people who still believe the Lindburgs were somehow involved. Another case of we may never, or most likely will never, know. Unless there is a clear cut conviction, people will always wonder. posted by
anonymous
on Aug 21, 2006 at 12:24 AM
Beacause this guy was married twice, that makes him a molester, well from Reagan to Gingrich, they must all be molesters.
posted by
taftrose
on Aug 21, 2006 at 07:45 AM
I Have only seen bits and piece's on this guy thy have so it is hard to say . posted by
AudreyB
on Aug 21, 2006 at 07:58 AM
Taftrose how many more beans could he spill? He seems eager to talk about his involvment. That eagerness to talk leads me to believe that he's a "confessing mental case" and not the killer of Jon Benet. But, who knows?
posted by
NancyII
on Aug 21, 2006 at 08:19 AM
I don't mean to assume what Audrey meant but what I got out of it was that she was commenting on how a creepy guy like that could get two wives when some folks can't even get a date for Sat night. I didn't see anything she said about him being married twice having anything to do with him being a child molester. You used that term...she just said he was creepy.At one point in the interview on TV he said he didn't want to go into the details until he had time. That struck me as one who wants to draw out the noteriety as long as possible. posted by
antiextremism
on Aug 21, 2006 at 10:17 AM
At first thought I believe the guy just wanted to get the hell outta Thailand for his crimes there. But as Warren pointed out, the SBTC thing has turned me around. If it's true, that coincidence is highly unlikely.
posted by
dgrealish
on Aug 28, 2006 at 12:59 PM
So, is anyone surprised this creeps DNA doesn't match the DNA found on Jon Benet?
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