We all mess up. I'm glad it's over :-)

It's not over, Tina.  *THIS* episode is over.  There'll be another.  "That anti-Semitic stuff," you know.

Mess up?  MESS UP??????   He said, drunk, what he believes when he's sober.   It was a tad more than a mess up.

Everyone complains when a celebrity receives "special" treatment...  

It will be interesting to hear the complaints now that Mel Gibson has pled no contest and received his punishment.  Incidently, punishment any other citizen would receive.  (fine, community service, AA, rehab, license restriction)

I'm sure the mental-midget-talking-heads will crawl out from under their rock and complain Mel should have recveived a harsher sentence simply because he is a celebrity but wouldn't THAT constitute "special" treatment?

 

 

Curt  I seriously doubt anyone would argue that point.  
Speaking from the liberal point of view (which I assume you are alluding to)  I think  he got the punishment he deserved according to the law.  Now his adoring public can give him any punishment they deem appropriate.  Such as boycotting his craptacular epics.

You are right..It was more than just a mess up.

Hey he should have gotten a medal, everybody whines and want a piece  of the celebrity  life guys like Gibson have. Christians get insulted, buddists get insulted and the President insults Muslims at every chance he gets, what make thes guys special?

The Dixie Chicks made a career mistake with their remarks.  Mels drunk driving and his remarks most likely won't make a dent in his career.  Go figure.  I don't happen to agree with either of them but then that's just me.  I never liked the DC so me not buying their albums isn't going to matter.  And I don't look to movies or stars for my political guidance.  Either I like the music or the movie or I don't.

Danny Bonivenwhatsit (can't remember his last name) said stars should expect us to own part of them  He said he plopped down his 8 bucks and bought that much right to thier private life.  I got a good laugh out of the interview.

They're just entertainers folks..and Mel puts his britches on one leg at a time just like anyone else....he just gets paid more for it.

Yeah warren, the Jews are completely innocent or at least as innocent as you, this morning a bunch of Jews on Cavuto on Fox money show were advocating profilng and restriction of Muslims in this country plus banning from granting Mulims immigration status of any kind. They ranted on about all Muslims being Islamofascists,  but THEY are not anti-anything they say. They are quick to throw out the anti-Semetic card but when called on it....everyone is picking on them.
Get a clue everyone is after what is best for themselves and the Jews are just better at it than anyone else.

Oh and what law did the Dixie Chicks break? Is giving up their first amendment rights to free speech a violation of the law? Get a clue being anti-Bush is not against the law it is a public service that should be if anything ...rewarded.

They didn't break any laws. They were well within their rights. 


........But.............


Going to a foreigh Country and publicly bashing your own Government is an exercise in bad judgement and shows extremely poor taste. What they did was on par with what Jane Fonda did. Same category.


I'm not breaking any laws either, by not buying their music or Concert tickets anymore.

Super Jane bent a few noses for a good cause, and so did the chicks, it did not bother me than and it does not bother me now,  our government gives us more bad press on the public buck from foerign countries daily, so why are private citizens expected to change their views when abroad?

Naw, it is because some don't like their politics that they are frowned upon, as for good taste in public policy, that went our with Jimmy Carter. If you are going to bash someone, do it everywhere, be consistent ar you are not serious.

I believe in airing one's dirty laundry at home, not in public. They should have saved their comments for a domestic venue.

The Dixie Chicks are well within their rights to say whatever they want, whenever they want, wherever they want.  And the American Public is well within their rights to buy what CD's, concert tickets and merchandise they want.  Mel's comments, though mean and hateful were said in earshot of a few people who then leaked it to the public.  The Dixie Chicks made their comments in front of a very large crowd of people in a very public venue.  We make choices, we pay consequences.  Is the Dixie Chicks freedom of speech of more importance than the American publics? 

The American publics........what? Freedom of speech is very important.  Mine is no different than yours. It's the same freedom. The operative question should be: Was the Dixie Chicks' decision to EXERCISE their freedom of speech more important to them than their career and ability to make a rail car full of money? Like it or not, their decision hurt their career because "We the Deciders" chose to spend our dollars elsewhere.

Freedom of speech.  Sorry I cut the statement off.  The Dixie Chicks made a choice, they are paying the consequence with their waning career.  I say it's justice.  I think we're on the same page tonyh.

I agree........

Poor Dixie Chicks, languishing all the way up to #1 on the Billboard chart.

http://www.billboard.com/bb...

Sad, really.  They could have done so much better than #1.

Someone above asked what law did the DC break.  No one said they broke ANY laws.  As far as them having a number one song...ok..the point made was that it cost them at the time and it continued to cost them for a good while.  How long since they've had a #1 hit?  Good, bad or indifferent, when you anger a large share of the population it will show in the sales of your movies, records, and career.   At least for a while.  Unless you're a sports star that is.

In my humble opinion, what hurt the DC's is that their fan base is the good ole boy, redneck, country music fan who generally is a flag waving patriot.  ( which I also am) but still, I  never did like their music.  Before, during, or after the Bush comment.
Like I said..I choose my music and my movies based on what I like..not the actors politics or opinions.  If they anger me, I'm more likely to not want to sit for 2 hours watching them though..I think that's normal.

"which I also am"...wonder how many  grammatical errors I committed with THAT phrase?????

How long, Nancy?  Check the link I posted.  A couple of months.
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What hurt the DC's is that the supporters of Bush's failed policies, like the Mafia, tolerate no dissent, and radio stations started toe-ing the line.  Except that the Mafia supposedly doesn't go after the wife and kids.

The Dixie Chicks recently canceled several US dates on their tour due to lagging ticket sales.  They were however able to book a few more dates in Canada.  Country music fans didn't like what the Dixie Chicks said in Europe and have spoken by not buying their CD's, concert tickets and merchandise.   Remember, everyone is this situation is free.  Free to speak, free to buy, free not to buy.  No one was forced.

Speaking of #1, I'm so glad to see the Ann Coulter book finally fell off the best seller  list.   I predict that she will never have another book  on the  list because her last book sunk as low as American taste will allow.

RF...I didn't click on the link because I meant how long before this one was it that they had a hit.  Personally I don't care since I reeeeeely don't like their music.  It has nothing to do with politics.  I just don't like their style.

I'm not the only one who realizes that people voice their displeasure with ANY public person by opting not to spend money on their product.   By and large, country music fans appear to be conservatives and "flag wavers."  There are a lot of people of all walks of life who don't want "stars" speaking for them.  You want to bring Bushes failed policies and political workings into this part of the discussion when the reality is it's much more simple than that.   Those people got ticked off at the DC's for the comment they made in a foreign country against the president at a time when they felt we should be supporting him.  Consequently, they stopped buying records and and tickets to concerts.  

I tend to be a cut to the chase type person and am not into bringing up a gazillion reasons or excuses why people do what they do.  The public is very fickle and it's no surprise that the DC's record sales might be picking up.   People tend to forget, or at least get over, bad feelings for celebrities who make stupid statements.  How many movie folks said they would leave the United States if blah blah?  (wasn't Alec Baldwin one?  Did any of them do it?  Did people continue to boycott the movies of the people they felt were traitors and then reneged on their threat?  The fact still remains that the DC's were badly hurt over that statement for a long time.

Trace Atkins himself made the comment that they angered a large share of the country music fans and it showed in slowed record sales.   Mind you...he never once criticized them for what they said..he just commented on how it hurt thier career.

Once more for the record...it's not political for me..I just can't stand that screechy chubby blonde Natalie Whatsit.  
Pleeeeze, whatever you do, don't tell my new granddaughter in law that I said that.  She is a conservative and STILL the biggest DC fan you've ever seen.  She defended them through the entire situation and does to this day.  One of the gifts my grandson gave her for their wedding was DC's concert tickets...now I understand it's been cancellled.   
I'm sort of non committal around her when it comes to the DC but I lost control on here.  Shhhhhhh...can it be our secret?

"We the Deciders" chose to spend our dollars elsewhere. hurt their career", I bet they are yelling hurt me hurt me all the way to the bank.