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Hard to be Wal-Mart
Get a tissue ready. This is a story on how hard it is sometimes to be Wal-Mart.
You're a huge firm. You have the biggest truck fleet in the world. And as such, some people don't like you. So you reach out to them. The Bentonville, Ark.-based company is joining the corporate advisory council of the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, the Los Angeles Times reported. Not everyone is feeling good about the company's attempts at diversity. Including gay and lesbian groups, who feel Wal-Mart doesn't pay so well and has lousy benefits. And so-called American family groups think Wal-Mart is selling out its traditional values. Does this make you feel sorry for Wal-Mart because it's so hard for them to please people? Posted by Steve E. Swenson 28 comments from 13 users
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posted by
anonymous
on Sep 10, 2006 at 03:53 PM
Crogers...I agree with you about this! It's nice to have smart people like you in this community. Wake up people! We need jobs in this town. Better yet, we need more working people in this town. Less taxes to pay for welfare :) posted by
ccrogers
on Sep 10, 2006 at 03:38 PM
I can't believe all the whining about walmart. It is so useless. Does anyone really believe bakersfield cares about big business here? I have lived here all my life and i like it here, but please look at all the housing growth on the east side.Instead of worring about walmart. What about the fact that we have no new freeways it absorb all the traffic. I can't wait until about 2 years when the west bound traffic on hwy.178 early in morning bogs down all the way to fairfax. Wow it would be nice to have a supercenter in the east area to help with the traffic. No let's just listen to HarveyHall talk about all the great business coming to b-town. Oh yes walmart employes about 400 people, how many people work at Greenfrog market?
posted by
tonyh
on Aug 28, 2006 at 10:05 AM
It wasn't too many years ago the Sears & Robuck was THE largest retail organization in the world. Montgomery Ward and JC Penney were right at their heels.Well, Montgomery Ward doesn't even exist anymore and Sears and Penney's are just a hollow shell of their former selves. How long did all of that take? (Not Too Long) It can happen faster than you think. posted by
NancyII
on Aug 28, 2006 at 09:49 AM
What goes around comes around. Hopefully. What ticks me off is that when someones says "they'll get theres one day" I probably won't be around to see it. That's just not right. ;-) posted by
dgrealish
on Aug 28, 2006 at 09:30 AM
posted by
NancyII
on Aug 27, 2006 at 11:45 PM
http://www.findarticles.com... posted by
NancyII
on Aug 27, 2006 at 11:26 PM
http://www.fastcompany.com/... The WM you don't know. Includes the article about Snapper Mowers. The one I couldn't remember. posted by
bakonative
on Aug 27, 2006 at 10:45 PM
posted by
NancyII
on Aug 26, 2006 at 11:22 PM
I'm not defending WM now because I've been gone too long to know all of the goings on. But I defended it when I worked there because in spite of all the Union lies, and the detractors, I knew what was going on. Don't get me wrong, the thought of working there in that zoo again gives me the heebie jeebies but I will always try to be fair and I don't let my dislike for something keep me from seeing another side. When that side is presented honestly and not out of maliciousness that is. AND..I buy all my TP and most sundries and houselhold cleaning products there. I buy a few tops there because I don't want to wear them for 20 years. In short, I buy where I can get a good deal. I have to admit, I usually only go once a month for that sort of thing. I can't take it there much more often than that. posted by
Shsrebel10
on Aug 26, 2006 at 11:04 PM
As far as Wal-Mart getting all their products from China, just about every department store and 50% of our products were from China, and most of the other 50% from Mexico. So either way you look at it, most of our products are from cheap labor countries, and most likely contributing to Chinese unions. Wal-Mart isn't the only company guilty of this. Target, Ross, JC Penny's, and Sears are all guilty of this as well.
Now as far as wal-mart paying employee's cheap and having horrible benefits, working at Vons and Albertsons you have to wait a full year before you get medical benefits, Wal-Mart gives medical benefits even to seasonal employees. Yes, Wal-Mart does have some bad business practices, but their not the only company guilty of cheap labor, chinese unions, low wages, bad benefits exc. posted by
NancyII
on Aug 26, 2006 at 08:38 PM
I have a couple of things that agree and question comments made above. One is that when I worked at WM most of the people I worked around were full time employees. I don't know the statistics of how many mom and pop stores were put out of businees by WM opening here but would you figure that enough closed that 150 employees lost their job? And how many mom and pop type stores offer insurance, 401K, stock options, sick days, personal leave time, yearly bonuses and paid vacations? Those were the good things about WM.
Now..the bad..and it had to come. I read an article that bears out DG’s comment about inferior material with a name brand. Levi is one. WM told them to cut their prices or they would be taken out of the stores. To keep the business Levi started using thinner material to make their jeans and lowered the price. I’m trying to remember the name but ut was a name brand mower/yard machine that refused to sell to WM any more because their smaller dealers were losing money. As for the employees now. I’m told that they only hire part time employees and that theirs a cap on how much anyone, depending on their position, can make in their time with WM. Gone are the incentives to keep shrink down or to perform in an outstanding way. Gone are the merit raises and, I imagine, the bonuses we used to get.
One thing is for sure..you hit the nail on the head too...Sam Walton would be devastated at the underhanded tactics WM now uses. He was a tough old bird but he and his wife also knew that to have a successful store you had to treat the employees right. And you had to be honest. Now it’s all about the bottom line. Aren’t the Walton children something Daddy can be proud of? posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 26, 2006 at 05:31 PM
Go ahead; prove us wrong; start up a retail chain willy-nilly that will put Wal-Mart to shame. A real free market sees to the continued existence of competition. It is not standing by while one big weed takes over the garden. posted by
dgrealish
on Aug 26, 2006 at 05:03 PM
posted by
tonyh
on Aug 26, 2006 at 03:38 PM
Erik, posted by
TomW
on Aug 26, 2006 at 01:25 PM
posted by
dgrealish
on Aug 26, 2006 at 12:31 PM
ericbako, it's not just the employees who are paying for the lower prices you enjoy at Wal Mart. You'd be hard pressed to call me a liberal. Hell, I even have a few shares of Wal Mart stock in my portfolio. But I will not support a company who built itself up on Buying American and has forced its suppliers to outsource jobs over seas. Not only that, but the tactics they use to keep prices down have forced many of their suppliers into bankruptcy. Others have chose to discontinue supplying them rather than hurt their smaller "Mom and Pop" retailers who wouldn't be able to purchase their products for the price Wal Mart was selling them. But the truth is, they weren't the same product. They just had the same name. The product sold at Wal Mart was made from inferior material to keep manufacturing cost down. But consumers don't know this. All they see is I can get it at Mom and Pop's for $299 or Wal Mart for $189. As far as the consumer is concerned, It ain't rocket science. They'll take the lower priced Wal Mart product, then complain how ABC's products aren't what they used to be. This, ericbako is just a small part of the high cost of Wal Mart's lower prices. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 26, 2006 at 09:00 AM
To go on strike and picket amounts to asking the public to be sympathetic to your cause and to help you get your way by refusing to cross the picket lines. But when your pay and benefits are already far better than nearly anyone else doing comparable work, you won't get much sympathy. Instead, you'll get mocking cries of "awww, poor baby, welcome to the real world." In my opinion, that weakens the position of unions in the public's eyes -- and unions depend on public support for leverage when they decide to strike. While I acknowledge the point of some of the highest-paid workers being restricted to 25 hours per week, the objection still stands. To get paid that much for doing 25 hours of unskilled work per week leaves you 15 hours more free time than a worker who works 40 hours for less total pay. A 25-hour work week leaves a lot of time for second jobs if finances are that tight. I believe the free market is the best way to deal with wage and benefits issues. However, that is not to say that mega-corporations like Wal-Mart should be able to take over towns unopposed. There has long been legal jusitfication for preventing one or two giants from squeezing everyone else out of business -- because a local monopoly or oligopoly is not a free market. posted by
tonyh
on Aug 25, 2006 at 08:51 PM
Hey Adampayne, posted by
dgrealish
on Aug 25, 2006 at 08:27 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id... posted by
anonymous
on Aug 25, 2006 at 04:57 PM
Naw, never
posted by
MyLefteFoot
on Aug 25, 2006 at 04:52 PM
Walmart profits are down in Japan. I wonder why? You would think they would like Walmart's One size fits everything mentality.
posted by
anonymous
on Aug 25, 2006 at 04:50 PM
Do you know that the Wal-mart stores in China just stocked a new item? Communist party clubs...geez they are sooooo capitalist.
But I guess money has no political party or conscience. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 25, 2006 at 04:46 PM
I hate being jammed like so many head of cattle into unusably narrow aisles. It means I have to enter through the "back" checkout, grab a bicycle horn from the bicycle section, carry it around with me so I can "Honk! Honk!" when some bozo's blocking the aisle with the cart. Then when I'm ready to check out, I have to put the bicycle horn back and fight my way to the checkstands. posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 25, 2006 at 04:40 PM
I can't fault you for not being aware of it, though. It's hard for them to be heard, given the fact that there are no real liberal voices in the media. posted by
anonymous
on Aug 25, 2006 at 04:33 PM
But it's okay for Costco, who endorsed John Kerry for President??????? WalMart is just a convenient target (get it?) because they are #1. Why no moaning because all the major oil companies put the mom and pop oil companies out of business? If you can put up with the trashy people who are omnipresent at WalMart, you will save some money there.
posted by
mattloch
on Aug 25, 2006 at 04:27 PM
. Unless they're planning on moving into the group, co-opting them from the inside, and turning it into a husk of it's former self. Now that they have experience in... posted by
Hardliner4freedom
on Aug 25, 2006 at 03:59 PM
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Aug 25, 2006 at 03:53 PM
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