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So what do you think?

I feel like a persons bad choices leads them to their ends . I think if this happened more often there would be less idiots in jail at our expense.

I'm curious how some of you feel?

 

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRI...

 

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posted by tchudilowsky on Tuesday, July 1, 2008 at 12:31 PM
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posted by randomfactor on Jul 1, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Sounds like a murder to me.

posted by Shwaine on Jul 1, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Sounds like a good case for there being surveilance in jails that is sent as an unalterable feed to an off-site, neutral third-party that can serve as an oversight agency for such incidents. Because I agree with Random that it sounds like murder, committed as a conspiracy between one or more guards and one or more prisoners. But without such surveilance, I doubt we'll ever know the identity of the guards involved. Nor will those guards face consequences for their actions.

Did anyone catch the recent news report about the helmet cams for British police? Not only has it helped them prosecute offenses faster because there is a video record, it has also cleaned up the behavior of the officers. The officers know they are being recorded and they cannot alter the recordings or turn off the recorder, so they act more civily. The news report said the complaints against officers had dropped dramatically since the cameras were installed.

posted by ALICEN on Jul 1, 2008 at 01:11 PM

Doesn't education (scholastic) keep one out of trouble for the most part?  I don't mean a hit-and-miss education where days or weeks are missed with no follow-up by school or parents; I mean a real education, be it public or private.  Also, doesn't a religious education keep one out of trouble as well?  It's awfully difficult to try to steal cars while you're at church or with members of a church at recreational functions.  I suppose the answer is that the education should begin generations ago. 

I don't really have a comment about the case linked above.  There aren't enough known facts. 

posted by timec on Jul 1, 2008 at 01:27 PM

 I read this story earlier today. I truly believe we should allow the justice system to handle matters. If one of my fellow workers were killed I would want the creep to pay but I would not set it up. This is sad because we really don't know if this man was guilty or not. This is just another example of peace officers doing the wrong thing.

 

posted by foodjunkie on Jul 1, 2008 at 01:31 PM

Innocent until proven guilty ... some countries have that reversed glad i do not live there !!

posted by OldBlue56 on Jul 1, 2008 at 01:34 PM

timec, the article said only corrections officers were there, NOT peace officers! Guards, not cops. Geez....

posted by timec on Jul 1, 2008 at 01:49 PM

Well...... I read a blog here the other day an a co said he was a peace officer.....so that is why I said peace officer.

http://www.cpof.org/index.h...

They call themselves peace officers on this website.......

posted by TjtheDJ on Jul 1, 2008 at 01:49 PM

OLDBLUE when are you going to learn...CO's are cops!


posted by Shwaine on Jul 1, 2008 at 01:56 PM

Foodjunkie, there's also Occam's Razor: the simplest explanation is often the truth. Since only correctional officers had keys to get into solitary where the inmate was murdered, the simpler explanation is a guard conspiracy as opposed to the alternative which is that the inmates somehow managed to get ahold of the keys. Now we're not saying Guard Smith is guilty, but it's likely some guard is given that crucial fact that the inmate was killed in solitary.

Edit: I just realized you might also have been making a sarcastic remark on the inmate's "judgement". Too bad sarcasm doesn't come across well in printed media, so I can't tell if your comment was directed towards those judging the guards or the inmate's "judgement".

posted by OldBlue56 on Jul 1, 2008 at 03:16 PM

tj, ask Judge Hoover, he will explain it to you. But tell him to use small words.

posted by TjtheDJ on Jul 1, 2008 at 04:36 PM

Oldtimer56, a shout out to you friday at 11am because you are so rad! Be sure to tune in to KERN AM1410 @11 FRI.


posted by OldBlue56 on Jul 1, 2008 at 05:19 PM

bj, I will be out of this crappy valley Friday. But you can still shout out to me and puff your chest up to your little heart's desire. And please, don't assault your new woman this weekend. I would hate to see you listed on the arrest blog Monday morning.

And remember, stay safe and sane.

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