More left-right crap. I veto this blog.

Are all Democrats such nasty namecallers?

And I do agree with infowar.

 Are all Republican really that stupid?
 

No.  They just think the voters are.

I think it's sad that idiots are allowed to represent the republican party with off the wall religious convictions. The republican party does have conserative viewpoints I can agree with and respect. I just haven't heard any of late. There are politicians who should be put into a rubber room before they hurt themselves. (Ron Paul and Sarah Palin are prime examples.) 

They are only scary when they assume a role of spokesperson and by extension, leadership. And god help us if they ever get a following. 

They got voted in, catpaw.  *SOMEBODY* is following them.

the republican party now is like the democrats of the early middle 90's....still having a soul....but still too far left for my tastes

i still espouse conservative views.......a self-proclaimed independent, because, now for some reason, 99% of what the republipukes are flaunting, im not down with

Nor am I, learnem, looking at it from the other side.

And I don't agree with some of the actions of the current Democratic leaders either.  But they're a hell of a lot closer to what the country needs right now than the Republicans are.

How does same-sex marriage harm the country, by the way? 

here we make some headway RF...we actually agree on something here......and you want to ruin our little "moment" by attempting to get me to opine, which you know will again isolate.

i find it better to not opine, and stay united, than to opine, and be divided....for the greater good of the country.

wow...i cant believe i just typed that

im gonna relish in the "agreeable" moment

Contemporary ID proponents are ignorant, and the purpose of their philosophy is simply group control, and nothing else.

However, back in the late 1980’s, a famous maverick astronomer, cosmologist, and biologist named Sir Fredrick Hoyle wrote a fascinating book called The Intelligent Universe.

Sir Fred postulated the following concepts concerning our present universe.....

1 It is far older than we now understand it to be.

2- Big Bang expansion theory is based on an observational illusion.

3- Life in the universe is  older than here on earth by far.

4- The complexity of carbon based life, especially the DNA architecture mechanisms, and related protein enzyme complexes needed to make it function, seem to be mathematically impossible within our presently conceived time frame.

Evolution is not contested, just the timeframe.

Fred Hoyle was an original proponent of the Steady State theory of the universe, along with the Paspermia theory of life’s origin of earth.

Some of his views have been heatedly debated in formal scientific circles, but some of his theories have left me wondering to this day.

For example, cosmologists have recently determined that the expansion of the universe is accelerating. This isn’t in agreement with the classic Big Bang creation cosmology, since we should see deceleration over time.

The phenomenon is called Dark Matter, and seems to have a repulsive force to explain the acceleration. Fred Hoyle theorized the phenomenon in his book as simply a component of the steady state theory. His colleges laughed at the time, but recent findings makes you wonder. Fred proposed under a steady state cosmology, the universe would indeed accelerate it’s expansion as new matter comes into existance. He might get the last laugh on this issue.

As the observational tools have become more sensitive and sophisticated, we are finding ever more complex carbon based molecules , the precursors of life, as common components of nebulas, comets, carbonatious meteorites, ect. Fred Proposed that the universe as a whole is a gigantic garden of organic material, organizing itself and evolving, independent of a planetary home as percursor.

In his final summery, Fred simply stated that the present working of the universe make more sense if we assume some form of guiding intelligence.

He also stated that defining this intelligence was probably far beyond the abilities of humans to understand beyond the most simplified concepts.

Anyway, for a fascinating read outside of the box, head to our public library and check out a copy of The Intelligent Universe, by Sir Fredrick Hoyle.

And the book has lots of illustrations too.  lol

More left-right crap. I veto this blog.-Better than crap from the land of make believe.

 I could get on board with republicans on a lot of things, if they didn't let something like the bible and imaginary ghosts drive thier politics.  That is why I tend to lean more center to left. 

How to engage in an intelligent dialog by starting with name calling.   

Seems to me that neither evolution or creationism negates the other. Taking the Bible's every word literally is troublesome.

But then so is calling folks "idiots" for their beliefs.

Science is science.

Philosophy is philosophy.

"there is more under the sun..." W. Shakespeare.

Yeah Btowntv007 the land of make believe....only if you say so. Prove the info I post wrong. Everything I post is factual. You might disagree with me but I don't post anything from this so called land of "make believe". ( I am literally laughing at your comment,it must of been extremely hard to come up with that one). Go back to pounding your chest at your losing sports team & stay out of the political arena until you have conducted a proper amount of research in order to show a modicum of intellect.

Most Christians I know (myself included), regardless of political leanings, tend to believe that the earth is older than 10,000 years.  Now, whether they believe in Darwinian evolution is a completely different argument.

FSG: You're right. Putting a Biblical time frame on Creation is impossible. Scripture does not address the issue, so we shouldn't try and "read God's mind." Same thing for those that try and put a date on the end of the world. Besides, there's a little something in there about adding to or taking away from the Bible.

It always amazes me when I read or hear people who disparage the idea of "intelligent design," calling those people "Stupid Republicans."  The phrase "intelligent design," is, of course, an effort on the part of people who believe in a Creator God to somehow appease and compromise their faith to be politically correct.   The probability of Earth- science's evolution, is mathematically impossible when you consider something coming from nothing.  Even if the basic elements of our universe somehow came together, the probability of evolution is still impossible.  However, if one really is serious about understanding this debate, then you must begin with an understanding that a Creator God (we are talking about God, right?) is not bound by the parameters of His Creation (excuse the eons old terminology).  The Bible does give  little hints about this.  For example: "(B)e not ignorant of this one thing, that a day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day" (2 Peter 3:8).  If you believe in God, then it is a matter of faith, and that He is able to create in a manner that is supra-Earth-science.  In other words, His time is not our time, nor is He bound by His space and matter.  God could have very well created for a long time within one Earth day.  We're still talking about God.  "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear" (Hebrews 11:3).  To reason otherwise reveals a stupidity that goes far beyond the morass of political parties.  Perhaps you want to try and answer the questions posed to Job in chapters 38-42. 

If you want to exercise your faith to believe that scientists, including Darwin, are to be believed without question based on their observations and "hypotheses" of what they call evolution, fine.  But I will continue to believe in a Supreme God who has the audacity to say He can create by simply speaking.  Common sense tells me that nothing can come into existence from nothing, and that the Creation of you and me and the worlds around us can only be explained by simply saying, "In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth."  (Notice that the preposition is "in" not "at.")  Orderly intelligent design by an infinite super and supra natural God.  Not an impossible, random, evolutionary science that can only be observed and measured by a finite mankind.   

It always amazes me when I read or hear people who disparage the idea of "intelligent design," calling those people "Stupid Republicans."

In fairness, not all of them are Republicans.

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The phrase "intelligent design," is, of course, an effort on the part of people who believe in a Creator God to somehow appease and compromise their faith to be politically correct.

It's actually an attempt to sneak that faith into science classes.

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Even if the basic elements of our universe somehow came together, the probablilty of evolution is still impossible. 

No, just very, very improbable.  About as improbable as everything else which happened today.  Much more probable than a "god did it" scenario.

"There are politicians who should be put into a rubber room before they hurt themselves. (Ron Paul and Sarah Palin are prime examples.) "

Catpaw, You left out; Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Brain Dead Ted, and everybodys favorite Bobby in a coma Byrd.

There, corrected that for ya.

Very well said, Reformer.  But the weak response that followed was testament to that.

Clearly, the website of your namesake is a slanted site to your views.  That doesn't make it anymore truthful than MSNBC.  Everything has it's angles/agenda.  Your's is to live in conspiracy land others are more based around real world things.

I tell you what.  I'll sit and think what I think and you sit and do the same.  When and if they ever haul me off to my concentration camp, I will admit that you might have been right. 

I'm not even reading the long ones...just thought I'd toss that in for the heck of it.

Besides, grumpy left off the s on Rebublicans.

Well, once you hit the "bubly" for a second time you miss little things like that.

Just another example of not just narrowmindeness, but closed mindedness and small mindedness by grumpy. Calling someone stupid(or any other demeaning or belittling name)for their beliefs is not only petty, but  immature, and to suggest that all republicans are on board with it proves a total lack of understanding of those with whom you disagree.

Since there is no concrete evidence of the evolution of man from a single cell swimming in the primordial soup, that it should not be taught as fact any more than creationism. Both should be offered as electives in High School, when a kid is more able to digest the information and come to a conclusion rather than have either shoved down their throat as fact in primary school.

Nancy:  maybe he thinks there's just one.  He is skeptical, you know.  Or professes to be.

Besides, it is true, isn't it, that all "Republican" think as one, speak as one, breathe as one, live as one, etc., ad infinitum.  So maybe there is just one.  Republican can't have differing opinions, you know. 

Aside from all the above, do please consider Grumpy's reference.  Impeccable.  A blog site.

Btown they won't haul you off to a camp because you will cower & take your yummy vaccines like a good little brown shirt. I always laugh when people use the term "conspiracy" like it's some sort of way to insult someone. Go back to whining about your crappy 49ers.

Whats up with all the booze comments lately RF?  You in your cups and think everyone else is?

Alicen..yup..I know..lol.

Grumpy Ive seen your website..I dont think you should be calling anybody stupid

Nancy Whats up with all the booze comments lately RF? 

with all his defensive gay marriage posts ... I think hes frustrated cause he is lookin for a same sex partner and his lefty male admirers arent taken him as serious as he would like