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tkozy - > There is a Chance -> If Ralph Bailey has another show about Carter and Race.
If Ralph Bailey has another show about Carter and Race.

If Ralph Bailey has another show about Carter and Race.

He’ll be on our side.

Did you hear the comments on his show yesterday? I thought Ralph and his buddy were going to jump through the roof. Some of the comments were blatantly racist.

But Ralph, true to his paycheck, held in tough.

I got a feeling there won’t be many more shows like the one yesterday afternoon.

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posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 08:42 AM

Hey Ralph, welcome aboard the centrist train to health, happiness and freedom.

You can holster up your side kick and bring him along also.

We centrist don't mind if your caring. As long as your licensed and have the proper permit. (of course the only one to be caring in the bar, is the bartender)

posted by paxchristi3 on Sep 22, 2009 at 09:58 AM

Sorry to miss the show. How did Bailey's views compare to Kevin Jackson's, author of the recently released book "The BIG Black Lie: How I Learned the Truth About the Democrat Party," whose latest post on his blog, The Black Sphere, talks about this subject?

http://theblacksphere.net/c...

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Didn't hear him mention the pimp. (That's what I call people that sell books that promote their own wealth while highlighting their personal opinion).

Ralph did dismiss claims that Obama wasn't a natural born citizen and that he was inexperienced. And of course those comments drew the worst of the racists public comments.

 

I am not a pimp cause I don't get paid. I am just a undersexed wordsmythe.+++

posted by vanityfair on Sep 22, 2009 at 10:40 AM

tkozy, it's my understanding that yesterday's show was not live, it was a re-broadcast. So KNZR saw fit to air it not once, but twice.

posted by paxchristi3 on Sep 22, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Perhaps Ralph may want to revisit the question of our president's undocumentation and eligibility in light of my latest posting: http://people.bakersfield.c...


posted by ronmexico on Sep 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Obama is experienced?? IN what???

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM

mexico,

Is there a school to train for a first term president.

You see in that respect Obama is as experienced as any other first term president.

I learned that from Ralph. It was on his show yesterday.

 

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Pax,

Believe me. Ralph has heard that story and more. And he discounts it all.

He is a wise man in that respect.

In fact, miles ahead of the other talk entertainers..

It's getting to the point that you could count those who believe as you do. On your hands.

Give it a break.

posted by ronmexico on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM

I asked a question Tkoz... What is Obama experienced in?? You say he is experienced.. I was just wondering in what...Prestty simple question.  Pretty telling that you can't answer it...

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:11 PM

mexico.

Forgive me for presuming that you knew how to google.

Here, get someone to read this for you.

There will be not test at the end. So don't be afraid okay.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

posted by pnash on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Yesterday's show was a re-broadcast, as Ralph was out at a charity golf tournament.  And yes we saw fit to air it twice, because it was a good discussion on race.  Not sure what all the "centrist" comments mean, or that Ralph held tough "true to his paycheck"...does everything need a label constantly?  "Leftist" "Centrist" "Rightwing"...how about thinking for one's self?  That's what our show promotes, even when it's unpopular with some or most of our audience, and that's what makes us different than most other talk shows.  We don't tow any party line, or blindly follow anyone else's thinking.  If that makes us "centrist", well label us what you will.  Neither political party gets it right all the time in case you haven't noticed.

But I appreciate you all listening, and it must have struck some nerve, or else this comment chain wouldn't be here.  And to that degree, we accomplished something...stimulation of thought, and a conversation.  Like us or not, or agree with us or not, that doesn't matter.  We got you to think and talk.  Mission accomplished.  Thanks again for listening.

Preston (the "sidekick")

posted by ronmexico on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Hmmm... So I see he has zero experince as a chief executive of anything......Thanks for the link Tkoz...

posted by paxchristi3 on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Ronmexico, the undocument ex-community organizer is experienced in the things that made ACORN so great.


posted by vanityfair on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Thanks for confirming that, Preston. I thought it sounded familiar; either that, or I was having a serious case of deja vu. I thought it was a good show.

Ralph is the only local show I listen to on a regular basis. You guys are really funny. Keep up the good work!

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Sidekick,

If you are going to insist there were no racists remarks during that show . I wouldn’t plan on playing that piece again.

The air was thick with anticipation. Waiting on the caller to say. Okay, well so what I am a racists. It’s America it is my right.

I can’t imagine that you didn’t have both hands on the kill button.

You must admit that you had callers fight back at Ralph’s call to reason on some topics.

Let me also suggest that playing that show again. Is the weasel way out.

Put the same questions forward again. Give us a new show. Give a few more wacko’s a bite at the wheel.

Then try to defend your argument.

And still hold your words true to your heart.

The comments you faced where filled with racist sentiment.

I find it very difficult to believe that the birthers and the deathers. The socialists accusing wacko rightists. Are idiots.

They of course are not.

They know exactly what their plan is.

I find their accusations and their proof convincing that they are racists.

The black face Obama poster. A glaring example of a program intent on inspiring hatred within America. Based on color.

Racism by definition.

I like your shows for the most part. You do throw in some very funny pieces.

But Ralph has to do more than just talk down the obvious. Such as the experience question and birther things.

You can’t joke that you are a racist because you hate blues singers.

That is disrespecting the truth.

It is denying that racism does not still exist.

It in fact validates the image,

that I am not a racist.

Cause I have Black friends.

posted by pnash on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Thanks vanityfair.

posted by learnem on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:32 PM

too much effort on the race issue T.....its played out...  I think we all are suffering from RACIST BURN OUT SYNDROME

it sure would be nice if you were to give it a break once in awhile

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:33 PM

mexico,

I din't mean for you to read the link.

I meant read the whole article.

Here is an example:

 He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year

 

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Preston,

It seems that some people are so eager to label because they want to either a) demand that someone is changing to "their" side or b) it makes it easier to demonize the "other" side.

I have noticed recently that generalizations about political parties abound.  You'd almost think that people can't have more than one opinion, but must be grouped into a specific category based on prejudicial assumptions by others. 

I love your show by the way!  Ignore the ranters.

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM

learn,

America is suffering from the likes of Info's poster.

You must admit those types of outrage, are not a call to reason.

What other purpose should you propose it serves.

There is no need for such disrespect for an entire race.

It puts into question the sincerity of the proposition that progress has been made in regards to racism in America. To all races.

It demonstrates elitism. A story that  is always told of the liberal.

 

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:46 PM

wndr,

You have chosen the side of the racist. The side associated with the bad aspects of the south. You have a uphill battle for sure. You have to disavow yourself of those that would harm relations within America. 

Liberals and centrists did not infect you with this disease. It's as if you went to bed in a sleaze motel. And woke up with bug  bites.

Black face posters are no way to rid yourself of the fleas.

 

 

posted by pnash on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:48 PM

hey tkozy

Your posts are pretty cryptic, so it's hard to figure out exactly what your point is...no offense.  Of course there's racism out there...nobody in their right mind would deny that.  I don't deny that.  I've toured in a band with a black bassist, a friend of mine from way back in NJ.  And the racism we encountered, especially in the south, is disgusting.  That being said, criticizing Obama doesn't make one a racist...he's the president, and what president EVER hasn't been criticized?  So Jimmy Carter is off his rocker to say that the overwhelming portion of criticism of Obama is due to racism.  Even Obama said he didn't believe that.

As for our callers...let me handle that, but thanks for airchair producing.  We don't go for preach to the choir radio, and we like giving the callers a voice...again, stimulating thought and conversation.  The reason I replayed that show (not that I need to defend or explain), is that we received a lot of great feedback on it.

And sorry, I can joke about race if I choose.  My joke was to highlight Carter's ridiculous statement...not to prove that racism doesn't exist.  Sorry if it went over your head.

Again, thanks for listening and your feedback.

Preston

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Tk,

Ah, you always make me laugh. 

posted by vanityfair on Sep 22, 2009 at 12:58 PM

I see tkozy has found his argument du jour. What happened, tkozy, did you give up on health care, or are you just taking a break?

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:05 PM

 

Is vanity analyzing again ?

Don't do that, it's embarrassing .

--virgil

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:07 PM

Vanity,

It must be exhausting to post the same thing over and over for one topic, I can't blame the poor guy for moving to another. =-)

Maybe one day he'll consider new tactics.

Nah.

posted by vanityfair on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:09 PM

LOL wndrwoman  ; )

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:13 PM

"Your posts are pretty cryptic, so it's hard to figure out exactly what your point is...no offense.  Of course there's racism out there...nobody in their right mind would deny that.  I don't deny that. "

 

So, dude (pnash), must be in his right mind.

If I'm in my right mind, that means, what I think about race has gotta be right. 

And, Look !  I'm still making a buck playing to the racial emotions of those listeners I want to attract for thoughful discussion.

... Yeah, that's it !

--virgil

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:15 PM

 

 

Rationalizations are Great !!

Let me have one !

--virgil

posted by wndrwoman27 on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:18 PM

Virgil,

Your love of twisting words around to benefit your own perspectives, and your racism, is showing again.

Apparently, pnash didn't know that freedom of speech only applies when you think it should.

I still feel sorry for you and your obsession with race.  Maybe someday you'll overcome it.

 

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:25 PM

 

Woman,  

I didn't say he couldn't use rationalizations about exploiting the racial emotions of his listeners,  to get them to listen to his show.

I was just simply pointing out that Preston rationalized using racism to garner ratings for his show. 

--virgil

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:30 PM

wnder,

The words speak for themselves. They can not be twisted.

I have said what the sidekick did. (racism in the south is disgusting even today).

And you laugh at my mention of it.

That is the reason I say,

 you.

The sidekick

and Ralph.

You  have a uphill battle.  You have to express how much you despise the likes of Info's black face poster.

You can not say that racism isn't involved in the Obama criticism.

Because it is. And a discussion of the intensity of the racism can not begin, until you admit it even exists.

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:32 PM

Vanity,

I have a concurrent blog running on Health Care.

Don't tell me you have missed it.

You break my heart. :>)

Oh! And out of respect for Audrey I had to give up my blog on Miles Mistako.

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:35 PM

sidekick,

From above,

wnder,

The words speak for themselves. They can not be twisted.

I have said what the sidekick did. (racism in the south is disgusting even today).

And you laugh at my mention of it.

That is the reason I say,

 you.

The sidekick

and Ralph.

You  have a uphill battle.  You have to express how much you despise the likes of Info's black face poster.

You can not say that racism isn't involved in the Obama criticism.

Because it is. And a discussion of the intensity of the racism can not begin, until you admit it even exists.

posted by pnash on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:39 PM

Virgil

We don't have to rationalize anything, or explain why we discuss anything on our show.  But seriously, a former President of the United States made an inflamatory race-baiting statement regarding criticisms of our current President of the United States, and the only African-American talk show host in mostly white Bakersfield needs to RATIONALIZE that discussion?!?  Really?  Wow.

On today's show we'll discuss shoelaces and cupcakes, as not to exploit the racial emotions of our listeners.  Or political emotions.  Hell, we won't even discuss baseball because as a Dodger affiliate we don't want to exploit the emotions of any San Francisco Giant fans who might be listening.

Again, wow.

And tkozy, not the overwhelming portion of criticism of Obama is racist in nature, as Jimmy Carter indicated...that was the point.  Some of it might be, but Senator Wilson yelling "you lie" is not racist...it's an outburst about Obama LYING about portions of his healthcare intentions.  Where was all this race talk from the left when Clarence Thomas was drug over the coals?  Oh yeah, that's right, they were the ones doing it.  Hypocrites.  And by the way tkozy, Obama himself said he didn't agree with Carter.  Nuff said.

Preston

posted by ronmexico on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:40 PM

Funny how the biggest racists have (D)s after their name. 

Robert KKK  Byrd (D), longest tenured racist in the American Senate...

And now this racist....  http://www.politico.com/blo...

Paterson blames weak Obama record for friction

 

Well, this is going to make David Paterson a lot of friends in the White House, as he tries to put himself in the president's shoes:

If you look at it from their perspective, they haven’t exactly been able to govern in the first year of their administration in the way that other administrations have, where you would have, theoretically, a period in which the new administration is allowed to pass the needed pieces of legislation.

One of the things that has made the White House angriest at Paterson is his linking his woes to the president's. The last time was about race, of course, which made it worse.

posted by jfrancais on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:47 PM

Is this one of those ab absurdo renditions?

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:50 PM

"We don't have to rationalize anything, or explain why we discuss anything on our show.  "

 

But you did, Preston. No one asked you to do it.

The show used racism to exploit the emotions of those with a decidedly racist mindset.

That's true. You know it. You then offered a rationalization of that fact by pointing out that one of the objectives to your show is to attract thoughtful discussion.

I never said using rationalizations is wrong. I never suggested that ...

--virgil

 

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:53 PM

"Is this one of those ab absurdo  ... "

Look at Francais talking about soup .

--virgil

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:58 PM

mexico,

I guess you also forgot that the world condemned slavery well before America Abandoned it.  How that fact, and Byrds history has any reflection on Racism today. Goes beyond my understanding.

I see nothing in Paterson remarks that reflect racism.

Perhaps you can point it out for me. 

I disagree with Paterson's view of Obamas accomplishments. I think it is clear that if you want a job at WalMart. There is work for you. So the unemployment rate maybe a bit out of wack. But not pretty in any case.

But things are coming along in the stock market. I see reconstruction posters coming up all around town. I see new reconstruction postings in the classified each day.

I would say Obama is about to make a fine jacket out of the box of rags he was handed.

posted by ronmexico on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:58 PM

Yup, people are criticizing Obama because of his color.....

 

 

 

 

posted by learnem on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:58 PM

"the race police, they are inside virgils head

the race police, the speak to TKOZY in his bed"

 

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 01:59 PM

Soup! Someone say soup?

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 22, 2009 at 02:00 PM

 

It's the reductio ab absurdo .

--virgil

posted by VirgilAnderson on Sep 22, 2009 at 02:02 PM

 

Tkozky,

It has a corn base ...

--virgil

posted by ronmexico on Sep 22, 2009 at 02:03 PM

Yup, Owebama Brownie is doin a heckava job........

 

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 02:06 PM

mexico,

You don't see it do you.

You don't see that there are people that you would offend if you would depict Obama as having a natural born defect. 

Or do you.

And you just don't care.

You don't see that portraying Obama as the devil and in the midst of flames.

Would be disrespectful if he were to have burn scares.

You would accuse me of raising the burned man card.

You know that. But you still do it over and over again.

Then whine that you are being falsely accused.

posted by ronmexico on Sep 22, 2009 at 02:08 PM

 I guess you also forgot that the world condemned slavery well before America Abandoned it. 

Hmm... Have you been to current slave nations such as Niger and Sudan?? More black racists....

posted by learnem on Sep 22, 2009 at 02:09 PM

TKOZY  are you getting it that WE DONT CARE?

 

people get offended too easily....people need to SACK UP and deal with it.  The only person you can control is YOU...if people are offending you, go somewhere else.  complaining to them isnt going to do anything but get them bent at you.

give a break, please

posted by tkozy on Sep 22, 2009 at 02:11 PM

mexico,

It has become  obvious when you run out of argument.

You always end up posting Bush Jr. Economic failures.

As I said. Obama is about to make a fine jacket out of a box of rags.

You can't stand it can you.

You can't bare to think of all crude oil being laid down on Kern County roads. And the fact the bill will be paid for with Obama dollars.

That's Obama dollars to our oil industry.

Those are Obama jobs.

Dollars that will be accept with open arms.

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