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Barack Obama's old Pastor in Sex Scandal
The New York Post has an article regarding the goings on of Barack Obama's former paster. Apparently the Reverend Wright has been doing the church lady. "Elizabeth Payne, 37, said she had a steamy sexual affair with the controversial, racially divisive man of the cloth while she was an executive assistant at a church headed by a popular Wright protégé." She's been fired from her cushy job at the Friendship West Baptist Church. And her husband divorced her. Good thing Barack dumped Reverend Wright. Remember when Wright became an embarrassment for Obama after videos of the preacher's old sermons came out. In them, Wright blamed the United States for the 9/11 attacks and boomed, "God damn America!" 21 comments from 14 users
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posted by
jadedcynic
on Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17 AM
And she's white! So much for practicing what you preach...hee hee hee posted by
PawnThyself
on Sep 12, 2008 at 09:20 AM
posted by
AudreyB
on Sep 12, 2008 at 09:24 AM
posted by
woofwoof
on Sep 12, 2008 at 09:29 AM
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Sep 12, 2008 at 09:38 AM
posted by
NancyII
on Sep 12, 2008 at 09:41 AM
posted by
samheath
on Sep 12, 2008 at 09:46 AM
That will be the day Nancy. posted by
witbee
on Sep 12, 2008 at 11:58 AM
I can hardly hold that against Obama. Unless the Rev was professing it to be Biblical to commit adultery during services. I'm pretty sure that is one of the Big Ten No-No's. posted by
witbee
on Sep 12, 2008 at 11:59 AM
And she's white! So much for practicing what you preach What do you mean? He finally screwed Whitey. Literally. Pardon my tone. posted by
ALICEN
on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:07 PM
woofwoof: Nobody can hold someone else's escapades against B.O. What we can hold against B.O., however, is that it took him over 20 years to throw his pastor "under the bus." After sitting in church pews listening to Wright for 20 years, as B.O. apparently did, it is impossible for me to believe that none of Wright's true views ever became well known to B.O. Or that none of them ever became embedded in B.O.'s mind set. That's what's scary to me. posted by
Astonished
on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Any issue relating to the revered agent of change, Senator Barack Obama, has to do with his two decade close affiliation with the well known chronically choleric cleric the Reverend Wright. The right reverend was well known for his 'shtick' and his parishioners (white and black) lapped it up for over 20 years and still do, wherever he ministers to his flock. Among those parishioners (white and black) was our Candidate Obama, for 20 years. It is doubtful he evinced the slightest discomfort during the evident enthusiastic response of his fellow congregants (white and black). These folk were, after all, Senator Obama's electoral base. Would it be cynical to presume his demeanor was not out of character with the other enthusiasts (white and black) so vociferously in evidence on the video?
Question: Was Senator Obama putting them on? Is Senator Obama putting on the flock he has himself garnered? posted by
sagefever
on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM
posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Astonished, does your mind agree with every word you hear? Should your personal views be linked with anyone you are in contact with? Should we look at what your friends think and attribute those thoughts to you? I don't think it's fair personally. However, if you apply that to McCain or Palin, you get a frightening picture of right wing extremism that goes against the very ideas our forefathers shed their blood for. Why not judge them all on their own ideas and their own plans for the direction this country should go. The rest is just fodder for the media to sell more shampoo or boner pills. posted by
Astonished
on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:19 PM
The appeal of Senator Obama resides in his transcendent rhetoric and the audacious hope that he can walk the talk. What character would 20 years of silent disagreement indicate? Perhaps Senator Obama was merely ambivalent? Or was he in agreement and has subsequently had an epiphany allowing pursuit of high office? Acts of omission are 'OK'? I'm sure that's not what our enlightened would accept. Unless, of course, it were absolutely convenient. The hope appears to be capricious, not audacious. It relates to credibility. Credibility and authenticity now? Credibility and authenticity then? I repeat: "Among those parishioners (white and black) was our Candidate Obama, for 20 years. It is doubtful he evinced the slightest discomfort during the evident enthusiastic response of his fellow congregants (white and black). These folk were, after all, Senator Obama's electoral base. Would it be cynical to presume his demeanor was not out of character with the other enthusiasts (white and black) so vociferously in evidence on the video?
Question: Was Senator Obama putting them on? Is Senator Obama putting on the flock he has himself garnered"? posted by
ProgressivePete2
on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:28 PM
Astonished, have you ever been to a black church before? I'm guessing you haven't. I have plenty of times and understand that there is usually deeper meaning to the sermons than what few bits you pick out. Are you judging Obama on the few little soundbites that the 24 hour news programs repeated over and over, or are you judging him by the spirit of what point the Reverend was trying to make. A church sermon has more to it than a few sentences, and if you pick and choose little tidbits out of just about any sermon, you can find fault with it.
Goodness gracious, this is such old news I don't know why I waste my time with such a trollish post. Of course you don't say what fantastic policies your candidate of choice has, because attacking someone for their acquaintances is much more worthy of your attention. I'm more concerned about how I'm going to feed my family next week than this trivial nonsense. posted by
NancyII
on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:34 PM
posted by
jfrancais
on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:34 PM
It makes me wonder if Obama knew of this earlier. If so, it was a good move to cease any relationship with the guy. posted by
Astonished
on Sep 12, 2008 at 01:37 PM
Deliberate obtuseness is transparent. Please reread your apologia. It is comical. Have a good day. posted by
HusbandMaterial
on Sep 12, 2008 at 02:06 PM
It makes me wonder if Obama knew of this earlier. If so, it was a good move to cease any relationship with the guy And if he did he would be morally responsible to FIX the problem?????? NO. Personal responsibility, my friends. Emphasis on the "personal". How many times did Ronald Regan have to say that Americans must understand that they are at LIBERTY to do what they will in their personal lives? Hundreds of Times!!!!!!! What business is it of GOVERNMENT to correct private, consenual behavior? Barack Obama is NOT the sex police, nor is John McCain. Americans are FREE to do what our constitution says they can do - PURSUE HAPPINESS and it's not an accident that our constitution doesn't define what happiness IS. That's the GENIUS of our constitution. WE the PEOPLE, define what happiness means to us on an individual basis. That's why you see a prohibition against kite-flying in Afganistan. Islamic belief and culture is geared toward fulfilling the will of Allah and that duty encompasses EVERY aspect of Islamic life. It's one of the reasons Moslems cannot understand Americans, because we define our own individual happiness. That's why it is NOT Obama's duty to do or say ANYTHING about his pastor's behavior. His pastor must deal with his OWN actions. It is not the government's work to do so. posted by
AudeSapere
on Sep 12, 2008 at 07:12 PM
Richard Pryor played a minister in a movie in the 1970s ("Which Way Is Up?" I believe it was) where he was having sex with several women in the congregation, telling them in "was spiritual." When confronted during Sunday services, he ran out the back of the church and was run over by a tour bus. His casket was only about a foot high. posted by
jfrancais
on Sep 13, 2008 at 03:11 AM
The reality is that he would have been crucified if he still had a relationship with Rev. Wright (right or wrong). Of course he can't fix the problem nor should he have to. Politics is about image and such a relationship would give every adverse faction a reason to pin that same behavior on Obama.
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