http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126 Coming to the aid of a woman in need would usually be something to be commended. But there are limits. Two men who saw a woman being beaten with a stick by her ex-boyfriend in Oildale jumped in and saved her. But they used the same stick as they beat the ex-boyfriend unconscious, and now they're under arrest on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon. Jerry Bogue, 38, the ex-boyfriend, is currently recovering at a local hospital. He'll be arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and spousal abuse when he's better, according to deputies. Did Travis Martin and Anthony Gonzales, the men who beat Bogue, thereby saving the ex-girlfriend from further harm, cross the line? Coming to the aid of a woman in need would usually be something to be commended. But there are limits. Two men who saw a woman being beaten with a stick by her ex-boyfriend in Oildale jumped in and saved her. But they used the same stick as they beat the ex-boyfriend unconscious, and now they're under arrest on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon. Jerry Bogue, 38, the ex-boyfriend, is currently recovering at a local hospital. He'll be arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and spousal abuse when he's better, according to deputies. Did Travis Martin and Anthony Gonzales, the men who beat Bogue, thereby saving the ex-girlfriend from further harm, cross the line? en-us Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:01:43 PDT <p><span style="font-size: small">They did the right thing.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small">Maybe this creep will think twice before hitting another girl.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small">&nbsp;Good for them!</span></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284256 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284256 <p><span style="font-size: small">They did the right thing.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small">Maybe this creep will think twice before hitting another girl.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small">&nbsp;Good for them!</span></p> <p></p> <p>I guess there should have been a limit ... they should have stopped before the ex boyfriend fell unconscious.</p> <p>Jesus! Beating his girlfriend, huh? - with a stick!</p> <p>--virgil</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284260 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284260 <p></p> <p>I guess there should have been a limit ... they should have stopped before the ex boyfriend fell unconscious.</p> <p>Jesus! Beating his girlfriend, huh? - with a stick!</p> <p>--virgil</p> <p></p> <p>Did he use the rule of thumb in choosing the stick?</p> <p>That would have been okay a few decades ago.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284272 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284272 <p></p> <p>Did he use the rule of thumb in choosing the stick?</p> <p>That would have been okay a few decades ago.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>What a bunch of Daleions.... I bet they don't have a full set of teef between the 3 of them.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284280 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284280 <p>What a bunch of Daleions.... I bet they don't have a full set of teef between the 3 of them.</p> <p>You'd lose that bet OB, I know Anthony and he made a huge mistake by using the stick on the idiot. Good to stop the beating, but bad to use it on the gf beater...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284288 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284288 <p>You'd lose that bet OB, I know Anthony and he made a huge mistake by using the stick on the idiot. Good to stop the beating, but bad to use it on the gf beater...</p> &nbsp; Why is this wrong? The cops would have tasered the dude silly! He got what he deserved. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284293 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284293 &nbsp; Why is this wrong? The cops would have tasered the dude silly! He got what he deserved. <p>Both guys are Heroes on my Book....BF is a freaking loser.</p> <p>This type of stupid charges would make a &quot;good samaritan&quot; think twice before helping someone.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284308 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284308 <p>Both guys are Heroes on my Book....BF is a freaking loser.</p> <p>This type of stupid charges would make a &quot;good samaritan&quot; think twice before helping someone.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Darwinism at it's finest. LOL</p> <p>According to Oildalian law, the girlfriend will now sue the Nights in Shining Armor for beating her boyfriend, since they have probably made up by now. She realizes that stealing his meth was just not right and that she deserved the caning.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284320 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284320 <p>Darwinism at it's finest. LOL</p> <p>According to Oildalian law, the girlfriend will now sue the Nights in Shining Armor for beating her boyfriend, since they have probably made up by now. She realizes that stealing his meth was just not right and that she deserved the caning.</p> <p>They did what was right, but not what was legal.</p> <p>If the woman sues <i>anyone</i>, she should be put down, but not at the local pound. Anywhere in the vicinity of a dumpster will do.</p> <p>I used to be into that chivalry stuff. I gave it up the day after I moved to The Valley in July of 2000.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284332 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284332 <p>They did what was right, but not what was legal.</p> <p>If the woman sues <i>anyone</i>, she should be put down, but not at the local pound. Anywhere in the vicinity of a dumpster will do.</p> <p>I used to be into that chivalry stuff. I gave it up the day after I moved to The Valley in July of 2000.</p> <p><span style="font-size: large">DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GUESS THE AGE OF AN OILDALE BRIDE---COUNT HER TATTOOS AND ADD THEM TO HOW MNAY TEETH SHE HAS</span></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284344 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284344 <p><span style="font-size: large">DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GUESS THE AGE OF AN OILDALE BRIDE---COUNT HER TATTOOS AND ADD THEM TO HOW MNAY TEETH SHE HAS</span></p> <p>IN OILDALE IF YOU PLAY A COUNTRY WESTERN RECORD BACKWARDS--YOU STOP BEATING YOUR WIFE, YOUR DOG COMES HOME, YOUR CAR STARTS, YOUR CHECKS DO NOT BOUNCE AND YOU FIND WORK!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284347 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284347 <p>IN OILDALE IF YOU PLAY A COUNTRY WESTERN RECORD BACKWARDS--YOU STOP BEATING YOUR WIFE, YOUR DOG COMES HOME, YOUR CAR STARTS, YOUR CHECKS DO NOT BOUNCE AND YOU FIND WORK!</p> <p>DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAS TEN LEGS, SEVEN TEETH- THE FRONT ROW OF A MERLE HAGGARD CONCERT</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284348 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284348 <p>DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAS TEN LEGS, SEVEN TEETH- THE FRONT ROW OF A MERLE HAGGARD CONCERT</p> <p>Sounds like Oildale is the Bakersfield of Bakersfield.</p> <p>My brother got in a scrape like this once. Yep. It was at a bar and he saw one of his classmates knock his girlfriend to the ground then jump on her and start beating the crap out of her, so he came to her rescue. The beater then turned on my brother. &nbsp;Bad move. My &quot;little&quot; brother is 6'5&quot; and weighs about 230 pounds. He had to protect himself so he knocked this guy silly.</p> <p>Fast forward one month. My brother was out bar hopping and standing outside a bar talking to people he knew when here comes the girlfriend beater up behind him - with an axe handle, and he clobbers my brother across the back of the head with it and knocked him cold.</p> <p>Years after this happened was when I found out about it and I asked my brother if he filed charges against the guy.</p> <p>Nope.</p> <p>My brother has a pretty hard head. After that happened he got a job in construction where they were building a domatory at Texas Women's University. &nbsp;It was seven stories and Bro was the guy installing concrete balconies outside each room. &nbsp;The got to the very last one, on the seventh floor and the crane DROPPED this two ton concrete balcony onto the scaffolding where my brother was standing. &nbsp;He fell SEVEN floors and landed on the safest place on his body - his head. &nbsp;He got up, dusted himself off and walked into the a building where they kept the heavy equipment and collapsed. &nbsp;He spent the next eleven months in physical therapy and got paid something like $80,000.00 aside from all the free medical care. I told him, &quot;You with the hard head, knew exactly what you were doing, didn't you.&quot; He paid off his house with that money.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284362 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284362 <p>Sounds like Oildale is the Bakersfield of Bakersfield.</p> <p>My brother got in a scrape like this once. Yep. It was at a bar and he saw one of his classmates knock his girlfriend to the ground then jump on her and start beating the crap out of her, so he came to her rescue. The beater then turned on my brother. &nbsp;Bad move. My &quot;little&quot; brother is 6'5&quot; and weighs about 230 pounds. He had to protect himself so he knocked this guy silly.</p> <p>Fast forward one month. My brother was out bar hopping and standing outside a bar talking to people he knew when here comes the girlfriend beater up behind him - with an axe handle, and he clobbers my brother across the back of the head with it and knocked him cold.</p> <p>Years after this happened was when I found out about it and I asked my brother if he filed charges against the guy.</p> <p>Nope.</p> <p>My brother has a pretty hard head. After that happened he got a job in construction where they were building a domatory at Texas Women's University. &nbsp;It was seven stories and Bro was the guy installing concrete balconies outside each room. &nbsp;The got to the very last one, on the seventh floor and the crane DROPPED this two ton concrete balcony onto the scaffolding where my brother was standing. &nbsp;He fell SEVEN floors and landed on the safest place on his body - his head. &nbsp;He got up, dusted himself off and walked into the a building where they kept the heavy equipment and collapsed. &nbsp;He spent the next eleven months in physical therapy and got paid something like $80,000.00 aside from all the free medical care. I told him, &quot;You with the hard head, knew exactly what you were doing, didn't you.&quot; He paid off his house with that money.</p> <p>That last one I hadn't heard NEO. LOL</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284364 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284364 <p>That last one I hadn't heard NEO. LOL</p> <p>Anyone who beats a woman deserves pain and suffering.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284405 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284405 <p>Anyone who beats a woman deserves pain and suffering.</p> <p>Just got a call from Anthony's wife...rumor has it Bogue is out of the hospital and NOT behind bars! The two go to court tomorrow at 3. If the <strike>dipshi+'s , </strike>er , uh ...ex-boyfriend is not in custody, why are these two?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284414 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284414 <p>Just got a call from Anthony's wife...rumor has it Bogue is out of the hospital and NOT behind bars! The two go to court tomorrow at 3. If the <strike>dipshi+'s , </strike>er , uh ...ex-boyfriend is not in custody, why are these two?</p> <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: ">&nbsp;In self defense, they always taught me, avoid a fight at all costs, but if you are forced to, then make sure you end it.&nbsp; I had a buddy who stopped a mugging utilizing submission techniques that did very little damage to his opponent.&nbsp; A minute later, the same guy comes back at him with a knife.&nbsp; Round two ended up a little different.&nbsp; The attacker ended up with a few broken bones, a dislocated shoulder, and was knocked unconscious when he was thrown back.&nbsp; My friend, however, ended up with a knife wound in his shoulder.&nbsp; Lesson learned.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: ">When people know they are beat, they will resort to desperate measures.&nbsp; I wonder what a guy who is capable of beating up a woman while threatening to kill her would do if given any opportunity to recover?&nbsp; Do you knock him semi-conscious, out of pity, and hope that you can escape with an injured woman in tow, crossing your fingers he doesn't go grab a gun and follow you.&nbsp; Or do you try to hold him down and trust he doesn't wiggle free and find a hidden weapon?&nbsp; Why give him the opportunity?&nbsp; </span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: ">I guess they should have used nerf bats, or perhaps their hands so that they would end up with broken fingers, or perhaps they should have just talked him down with diplomacy<o:p></o:p></span></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284415 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284415 <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: ">&nbsp;In self defense, they always taught me, avoid a fight at all costs, but if you are forced to, then make sure you end it.&nbsp; I had a buddy who stopped a mugging utilizing submission techniques that did very little damage to his opponent.&nbsp; A minute later, the same guy comes back at him with a knife.&nbsp; Round two ended up a little different.&nbsp; The attacker ended up with a few broken bones, a dislocated shoulder, and was knocked unconscious when he was thrown back.&nbsp; My friend, however, ended up with a knife wound in his shoulder.&nbsp; Lesson learned.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: ">When people know they are beat, they will resort to desperate measures.&nbsp; I wonder what a guy who is capable of beating up a woman while threatening to kill her would do if given any opportunity to recover?&nbsp; Do you knock him semi-conscious, out of pity, and hope that you can escape with an injured woman in tow, crossing your fingers he doesn't go grab a gun and follow you.&nbsp; Or do you try to hold him down and trust he doesn't wiggle free and find a hidden weapon?&nbsp; Why give him the opportunity?&nbsp; </span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: ">I guess they should have used nerf bats, or perhaps their hands so that they would end up with broken fingers, or perhaps they should have just talked him down with diplomacy<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p>Absolutely right, Domer. My brother's karate instructor taught his students to walk away if someone tries to pick a fight. If they won't let you walk away, clean their clock and leave before the cops get there.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284420 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284420 <p>Absolutely right, Domer. My brother's karate instructor taught his students to walk away if someone tries to pick a fight. If they won't let you walk away, clean their clock and leave before the cops get there.</p> <p>Sad as it sounds, there are limits and our justice system does not advocate revenge nor retaliation.  The guy got a good ass-whipping but what they did to him was nearly the same as what he did to her and therefore illegal.  The guys should have practiced restraint and performed a citizens arrest.  Thank God they were there to save her but unfortunately they allowed their own aggression to get them into trouble.  </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284427 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284427 <p>Sad as it sounds, there are limits and our justice system does not advocate revenge nor retaliation.  The guy got a good ass-whipping but what they did to him was nearly the same as what he did to her and therefore illegal.  The guys should have practiced restraint and performed a citizens arrest.  Thank God they were there to save her but unfortunately they allowed their own aggression to get them into trouble.  </p> <p><b>He'll be arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and spousal abuse when he's better, according to deputies</b>.</p> <p>Ok, so when does this happen?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284430 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284430 <p><b>He'll be arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and spousal abuse when he's better, according to deputies</b>.</p> <p>Ok, so when does this happen?</p> <p>I went to school with Jerry, he is a tard.. rumor has it he has been using roids...   AND he is a crankster...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284433 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284433 <p>I went to school with Jerry, he is a tard.. rumor has it he has been using roids...   AND he is a crankster...</p> <p>Thank God that here are some good Samaritans out there looking out for crime victims. To bad that they are charged with assault with a deadly weapon,Won't we now all think twice if we see someone in trouble? We might be treated as a criminal&nbsp;for being a hero!!!!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284436 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284436 <p>Thank God that here are some good Samaritans out there looking out for crime victims. To bad that they are charged with assault with a deadly weapon,Won't we now all think twice if we see someone in trouble? We might be treated as a criminal&nbsp;for being a hero!!!!</p> <p></p> <p>At least they get there 15 mins of fame....</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284437 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284437 <p></p> <p>At least they get there 15 mins of fame....</p> &nbsp; Any man that beats on a woman only does it because they are cowards, They can't hold their own in a man to man fight. She'll probably go back to him....He'll beat the crap out of her because she LET those two dudes jump in. Hey Neo, those jokes are so old.....They aren't funny anymore! Get some new ones. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284438 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284438 &nbsp; Any man that beats on a woman only does it because they are cowards, They can't hold their own in a man to man fight. She'll probably go back to him....He'll beat the crap out of her because she LET those two dudes jump in. Hey Neo, those jokes are so old.....They aren't funny anymore! Get some new ones. <p>Lana - you probably know this - but a lot of women in this valley won't get involved with a guy <i>unless</i> he hits them.</p> <p>I generally bring a rose or two on the first date; these &quot;manly&quot; types probably bring a ball peen hammer...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284440 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284440 <p>Lana - you probably know this - but a lot of women in this valley won't get involved with a guy <i>unless</i> he hits them.</p> <p>I generally bring a rose or two on the first date; these &quot;manly&quot; types probably bring a ball peen hammer...</p> &nbsp; JBS: a guy would only hit me once! Then they would have to remove my bumper from his head. Rose's are nice. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284442 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284442 &nbsp; JBS: a guy would only hit me once! Then they would have to remove my bumper from his head. Rose's are nice. <p>Wow, this is a cold blog. Yes those who are victims of domestic violence generally return to they're abuser. No one in plan view deserves to be beat senseless, Let alone killed.&nbsp;&nbsp; I do believe however you do dot&nbsp; punish those who tried to do good,</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284443 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284443 <p>Wow, this is a cold blog. Yes those who are victims of domestic violence generally return to they're abuser. No one in plan view deserves to be beat senseless, Let alone killed.&nbsp;&nbsp; I do believe however you do dot&nbsp; punish those who tried to do good,</p> &nbsp; Whose not dealing with it? I live in the dale and deal with it everyday....But I can talk crap about it just as much as anyone else. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284444 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284444 &nbsp; Whose not dealing with it? I live in the dale and deal with it everyday....But I can talk crap about it just as much as anyone else. <p>Why talk crap about the 08 it's all over the zip code, These people felt the need&nbsp; help, and now they are in jail.&nbsp; That is the real issue here.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284445 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284445 <p>Why talk crap about the 08 it's all over the zip code, These people felt the need&nbsp; help, and now they are in jail.&nbsp; That is the real issue here.</p> &nbsp; Yep it is, Getalife......They did the right thing and now are in trouble. And if they go to lerdo and the wife beater is charged, he might go to lerdo too, then they can beat him some more. But I really hope the charges are dropped against the two guys. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284448 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284448 &nbsp; Yep it is, Getalife......They did the right thing and now are in trouble. And if they go to lerdo and the wife beater is charged, he might go to lerdo too, then they can beat him some more. But I really hope the charges are dropped against the two guys. <p>Me too. They are the good guys&nbsp;here and they need the community to rally around them. I'm Here for them!!!!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284452 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284452 <p>Me too. They are the good guys&nbsp;here and they need the community to rally around them. I'm Here for them!!!!</p> <p>Are you kidding me? This guy deserved what he got!!&nbsp; These guys witnessed a women getting beat! To death if they hadn't intervened! Now you know why women are so afraid to come forward in this county.&nbsp; She did the right thing, her neighbors did the right thing....yet HE is the victim!! Cmon kern county!!! Give me a flippin break!!! This is so typical!! And remember HER name will be in the media everywhere to shame even more!!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284478 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284478 <p>Are you kidding me? This guy deserved what he got!!&nbsp; These guys witnessed a women getting beat! To death if they hadn't intervened! Now you know why women are so afraid to come forward in this county.&nbsp; She did the right thing, her neighbors did the right thing....yet HE is the victim!! Cmon kern county!!! Give me a flippin break!!! This is so typical!! And remember HER name will be in the media everywhere to shame even more!!</p> <p>P.S. Unless you are or have ever been a victim of abuse........you shouldn't express your &quot;would have's or should have's&quot;........you just don't have the right!!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284479 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284479 <p>P.S. Unless you are or have ever been a victim of abuse........you shouldn't express your &quot;would have's or should have's&quot;........you just don't have the right!!</p> <p>These guys are definately heroes, this man could have killed this woman if not for these men.  The abuser got what he deserved!!  He cowardly beat this woman but got the butt kickin' he needed from a man/men.  Free the heroes.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284497 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284497 <p>These guys are definately heroes, this man could have killed this woman if not for these men.  The abuser got what he deserved!!  He cowardly beat this woman but got the butt kickin' he needed from a man/men.  Free the heroes.</p> <p>I won't argue the law or even point out it is, after all, Oildale. </p> <p>That said public resources spent on jailing and prosecuting those two guys is public resources wasted. Was there criminal intent? As I see it Bogue got what he deserved and for most of us who are sick of crime and seeing the perps walk on technicalities it's a satisfying pleasure to see a bad person suffer the consequence of a bad act.</p> <p>Considering the circumstances only a moron would think they're doing something good to charge those guys with anything and stick them in a cell. Give 'em a verbal warning and let 'em go. Too many real criminals walk because there aren't enough resources to prosecute them and jail space to hold them.</p> <p> </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284524 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284524 <p>I won't argue the law or even point out it is, after all, Oildale. </p> <p>That said public resources spent on jailing and prosecuting those two guys is public resources wasted. Was there criminal intent? As I see it Bogue got what he deserved and for most of us who are sick of crime and seeing the perps walk on technicalities it's a satisfying pleasure to see a bad person suffer the consequence of a bad act.</p> <p>Considering the circumstances only a moron would think they're doing something good to charge those guys with anything and stick them in a cell. Give 'em a verbal warning and let 'em go. Too many real criminals walk because there aren't enough resources to prosecute them and jail space to hold them.</p> <p> </p> <p>A case of GUILTY until proven Innocent, sad isn't it???</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284527 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284527 <p>A case of GUILTY until proven Innocent, sad isn't it???</p> <p>I agree with avanti... any resources will be wasted, and it sounds like these guys have a pretty good defense.  They were placed in an unusual and intense situation that required physical force.  Unlike police, they presumably did not have restraint equipment on hand to keep the suspect under control.  Another good restraint device is lack of consciousness.  Obviously the whole story isn't out yet, but they didn't do any permanent damage, from what it sounds like, so I don't see how they went over the top.  Now if they'd killed the guy after he was out, or did a severe amount of damage in some intentional way apart from that moment, it would be different. </p> <p>I wonder what he would have done to them if they had walked in and said "we hearby place you under citizen's arrest"</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284529 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284529 <p>I agree with avanti... any resources will be wasted, and it sounds like these guys have a pretty good defense.  They were placed in an unusual and intense situation that required physical force.  Unlike police, they presumably did not have restraint equipment on hand to keep the suspect under control.  Another good restraint device is lack of consciousness.  Obviously the whole story isn't out yet, but they didn't do any permanent damage, from what it sounds like, so I don't see how they went over the top.  Now if they'd killed the guy after he was out, or did a severe amount of damage in some intentional way apart from that moment, it would be different. </p> <p>I wonder what he would have done to them if they had walked in and said "we hearby place you under citizen's arrest"</p> <p>Rick-it looks like he was arrested on 7/31/2008. He's in the arrest logs they posted today, here ya go.</p> <p>JERRY&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BOGUE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; W&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 31/07/2008&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PC 273.5(A)PC 245(A)(1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; KCS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LABOR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>And I do hope the charges against the other two men are dropped.&nbsp; That is quite dumb for them to be charged.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284578 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284578 <p>Rick-it looks like he was arrested on 7/31/2008. He's in the arrest logs they posted today, here ya go.</p> <p>JERRY&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BOGUE&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; W&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 31/07/2008&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PC 273.5(A)PC 245(A)(1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; KCS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LABOR&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>And I do hope the charges against the other two men are dropped.&nbsp; That is quite dumb for them to be charged.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Thanks for the update Michelle. They're being arrained today. I hope charges will be dropped as well. Anthony had turned his life around and was doing very well. After talking to his wife several times yesterday, I learned there was also a knife involved, which is why the stick was used. Just a case of taking a good deed too far IMHO</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284585 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284585 <p>Thanks for the update Michelle. They're being arrained today. I hope charges will be dropped as well. Anthony had turned his life around and was doing very well. After talking to his wife several times yesterday, I learned there was also a knife involved, which is why the stick was used. Just a case of taking a good deed too far IMHO</p> <p>Jerry is the one that had the knife correct? Now had these guys not intervene and this woman was beaten to death, people would be saying what kind of men were they to watch.&nbsp; Personally, they did the right thing.&nbsp; As mentioned before, this is the type of situation that will make a good samaritan turn the other cheek.&nbsp; Good luck to them!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284587 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284587 <p>Jerry is the one that had the knife correct? Now had these guys not intervene and this woman was beaten to death, people would be saying what kind of men were they to watch.&nbsp; Personally, they did the right thing.&nbsp; As mentioned before, this is the type of situation that will make a good samaritan turn the other cheek.&nbsp; Good luck to them!</p> <p>Yes, Bogue had already slashed Sullivan at least once. I was just telling someone about this and they mentioned the same thing, it might make people think twice before getting involved. And that's really sad, in and of itself.</p> <p>Ms Sullivan is quite correct in her stating if it weren't for these two, she could very well be dead.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284591 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284591 <p>Yes, Bogue had already slashed Sullivan at least once. I was just telling someone about this and they mentioned the same thing, it might make people think twice before getting involved. And that's really sad, in and of itself.</p> <p>Ms Sullivan is quite correct in her stating if it weren't for these two, she could very well be dead.</p> <p>Who knows how they would react if they came upon the scene of a woman beaten to unconsciousness&nbsp;while the beater continues to pummel her.&nbsp;</p> <p>Any&nbsp;man would &nbsp;be very ANGRY at the attacker.&nbsp; Maybe so angry they wanted to give him a dose of his own medicine.&nbsp; Maybe the attacker was hyped up on drugs or adrenalin and continued being combative with the rescuers..</p> <p>At any rate, we need to see how the investigation pans out.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284592 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284592 <p>Who knows how they would react if they came upon the scene of a woman beaten to unconsciousness&nbsp;while the beater continues to pummel her.&nbsp;</p> <p>Any&nbsp;man would &nbsp;be very ANGRY at the attacker.&nbsp; Maybe so angry they wanted to give him a dose of his own medicine.&nbsp; Maybe the attacker was hyped up on drugs or adrenalin and continued being combative with the rescuers..</p> <p>At any rate, we need to see how the investigation pans out.</p> <p>Audrey - I tried to put myself in their shoes all day yesterday. I can say I'd have intervened as well. I'm a big guy and a haymaker to the temple has stopped many fights quickly. But with a knife and a stick involved, it may have been too dangerous to resort to fists. I think Anthony and Travis did the right thing. At least Bogue didn't wind up with his throat slashed...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284595 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284595 <p>Audrey - I tried to put myself in their shoes all day yesterday. I can say I'd have intervened as well. I'm a big guy and a haymaker to the temple has stopped many fights quickly. But with a knife and a stick involved, it may have been too dangerous to resort to fists. I think Anthony and Travis did the right thing. At least Bogue didn't wind up with his throat slashed...</p> <p>The '08 jokes apply equally to Bakersfield.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284625 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284625 <p>The '08 jokes apply equally to Bakersfield.</p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: small">&nbsp;How can anyone respect&nbsp;some guy who pounds on a woman or a child -- anyone who's smaller?&nbsp; It's notable that these &quot;big&quot; guys don't pick on people bigger than they are.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because they have yellow streaks down their backs that can't be scrubbed off with metal mesh scrubbers and bleach.&nbsp; Because they are cowards.&nbsp; Because they don't have the courage of ants or cockroaches.&nbsp; Because they are stupid.&nbsp; Because they are lazy.&nbsp; Because they are afraid.&nbsp; Because they're afraid of what?&nbsp; Females.&nbsp; That's what.&nbsp; Scared of girls.&nbsp; Scared right out of their&nbsp;paltry helpings of wits.&nbsp;&nbsp;Scaredy-cats.&nbsp; &nbsp;That's why they need to get put into general population of prison.&nbsp; So they can learn what it's like to be pounded on by somebody bigger and better.&nbsp; </span></span></p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: small">The truth will &quot;out.&quot;&nbsp; Justice will prevail.&nbsp; How could any self-respecting person stand by and do nothing while a woman was being beaten possibly to death?</span></span></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284793 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284793 <p><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: small">&nbsp;How can anyone respect&nbsp;some guy who pounds on a woman or a child -- anyone who's smaller?&nbsp; It's notable that these &quot;big&quot; guys don't pick on people bigger than they are.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because they have yellow streaks down their backs that can't be scrubbed off with metal mesh scrubbers and bleach.&nbsp; Because they are cowards.&nbsp; Because they don't have the courage of ants or cockroaches.&nbsp; Because they are stupid.&nbsp; Because they are lazy.&nbsp; Because they are afraid.&nbsp; Because they're afraid of what?&nbsp; Females.&nbsp; That's what.&nbsp; Scared of girls.&nbsp; Scared right out of their&nbsp;paltry helpings of wits.&nbsp;&nbsp;Scaredy-cats.&nbsp; &nbsp;That's why they need to get put into general population of prison.&nbsp; So they can learn what it's like to be pounded on by somebody bigger and better.&nbsp; </span></span></p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: small">The truth will &quot;out.&quot;&nbsp; Justice will prevail.&nbsp; How could any self-respecting person stand by and do nothing while a woman was being beaten possibly to death?</span></span></p> <p>There is a fine line between saving someone and vigilante justice. I can't say from the information that has been released if that line was crossed in this case, but that is probably the motivation for the arrests and investigation. The question that needs to be answered is did these guys just do what was needed to save the woman and prevent harm to themselves or did they cross the line into vigilantism and continued to beat the attacker after he was subdued. Right now, there's not enough information to answer that question.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284850 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284850 <p>There is a fine line between saving someone and vigilante justice. I can't say from the information that has been released if that line was crossed in this case, but that is probably the motivation for the arrests and investigation. The question that needs to be answered is did these guys just do what was needed to save the woman and prevent harm to themselves or did they cross the line into vigilantism and continued to beat the attacker after he was subdued. Right now, there's not enough information to answer that question.</p> <p>For all you whiners, consider this. Frequently the cops have to use force to subdue a suspect. That is allowed by law, just like&nbsp;what these&nbsp;two guys&nbsp;did. But when the cops use excessive force, they get fired and or charged with a crime. If these guys would have stopped once the guy was subdued, they would be fine. But they went overboard. They got what they deserved.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284858 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284858 <p>For all you whiners, consider this. Frequently the cops have to use force to subdue a suspect. That is allowed by law, just like&nbsp;what these&nbsp;two guys&nbsp;did. But when the cops use excessive force, they get fired and or charged with a crime. If these guys would have stopped once the guy was subdued, they would be fine. But they went overboard. They got what they deserved.</p> <p>I hope a lawyer in town offers to represent the two guys who got arrested for protecting the woman. The lawyer could argue that the men were acting in a heat of passion because they were so disturbed by the attack, which would probably reduce the charges.</p> <br /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284881 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284881 <p>I hope a lawyer in town offers to represent the two guys who got arrested for protecting the woman. The lawyer could argue that the men were acting in a heat of passion because they were so disturbed by the attack, which would probably reduce the charges.</p> <br /> <p>OB,</p> <p>Since the guy got knocked out, they clearly went overboard.</p> <p>I think the real question is, was he knocked out intentionaly? Did the good samaritans do it with malice? I dont think they did. </p> <p>Thats why we have a justice system where the lawyer will prove them innocent because there wasnt any malice behind there attack :)</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284885 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284885 <p>OB,</p> <p>Since the guy got knocked out, they clearly went overboard.</p> <p>I think the real question is, was he knocked out intentionaly? Did the good samaritans do it with malice? I dont think they did. </p> <p>Thats why we have a justice system where the lawyer will prove them innocent because there wasnt any malice behind there attack :)</p> <p>hot,&nbsp;these guys WILL get lawyers, at the taxpayers expense. They are called Public Pretenders. (Oops, I meant defenders).</p> <p>And anselma, the news reports said they used a stick to&nbsp;beat him. That's called assault with a&nbsp;deadly weapon.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284905 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284905 <p>hot,&nbsp;these guys WILL get lawyers, at the taxpayers expense. They are called Public Pretenders. (Oops, I meant defenders).</p> <p>And anselma, the news reports said they used a stick to&nbsp;beat him. That's called assault with a&nbsp;deadly weapon.</p> <p>Who's to say that the knockout was overboard?  One well-placed blow can knock a person out.  So far, I do't believe there's been anything to indicate that they repeatedly beat him in the head, or if one of them got lucky with one good hit.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284907 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284907 <p>Who's to say that the knockout was overboard?  One well-placed blow can knock a person out.  So far, I do't believe there's been anything to indicate that they repeatedly beat him in the head, or if one of them got lucky with one good hit.</p> <p>All charges were just dropped against the two. As of 15 minutes ago. Justice is served.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284912 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284912 <p>All charges were just dropped against the two. As of 15 minutes ago. Justice is served.</p> <p>OH NO! You are joking right? How long until timec pops up and spews her dribble about Klan Kounty justice?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284914 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284914 <p>OH NO! You are joking right? How long until timec pops up and spews her dribble about Klan Kounty justice?</p> <p>Ya, call it the teenager in me, but i find it fricking awesome that guy got beat up with the same weapon he was beating the woman up with!</p> <p>On a more serious note, would they have still been arrested if the stick wasnt used? I mean since attacking someone with my fist can be construed as assault with a deadly weapon, I am chuck norris certified.</p> <p>Edit: Dropped charges for the win!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284935 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284935 <p>Ya, call it the teenager in me, but i find it fricking awesome that guy got beat up with the same weapon he was beating the woman up with!</p> <p>On a more serious note, would they have still been arrested if the stick wasnt used? I mean since attacking someone with my fist can be construed as assault with a deadly weapon, I am chuck norris certified.</p> <p>Edit: Dropped charges for the win!</p> <p>No feces involved. Got a call from the wife. I'm wondering if he can get released in time to make it to work. We've all been wondering if he'd lose his job...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284939 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284939 <p>No feces involved. Got a call from the wife. I'm wondering if he can get released in time to make it to work. We've all been wondering if he'd lose his job...</p> <p></p> <p>Hey Blue -</p> <p>I agree with you that there should have been limits to the response of the two neighbors.  It's  all theoretical because we were not there; but,  looking at it from the outside as we are doing, is there an inherent limit  to what can justifiably be done in a situation like that.</p> <p>Honestly, if the guy suffered serious damage, do you think charges would have been filed by the DA?</p> <p>--virgil</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284941 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284941 <p></p> <p>Hey Blue -</p> <p>I agree with you that there should have been limits to the response of the two neighbors.  It's  all theoretical because we were not there; but,  looking at it from the outside as we are doing, is there an inherent limit  to what can justifiably be done in a situation like that.</p> <p>Honestly, if the guy suffered serious damage, do you think charges would have been filed by the DA?</p> <p>--virgil</p> <p>I would have just slit his throat. Nuff said</p> <br /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284958 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284958 <p>I would have just slit his throat. Nuff said</p> <br /> <p></p> <p>No, dude, just beat him&nbsp;in the knees a few times, crack some ribs, maybe the jaw and don't forget across the bridge of the nose.</p> <p>--virgil</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284973 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284973 <p></p> <p>No, dude, just beat him&nbsp;in the knees a few times, crack some ribs, maybe the jaw and don't forget across the bridge of the nose.</p> <p>--virgil</p> <p>To be honest, I'm glad these guys didn't get charged with anything. Now they need to apply for a job in law enforcement, assuming they can pass the background investigation. (Which&nbsp;I doubt they can).</p> <p>Just think, they could beat people with a stick all the time and get paid for it!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284977 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284977 <p>To be honest, I'm glad these guys didn't get charged with anything. Now they need to apply for a job in law enforcement, assuming they can pass the background investigation. (Which&nbsp;I doubt they can).</p> <p>Just think, they could beat people with a stick all the time and get paid for it!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p></p> <p>Ha! Well said....</p> <p>--virgil</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284991 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284991 <p></p> <p>Ha! Well said....</p> <p>--virgil</p> <p></p> <p>Suppose, they beat the guy causing serious injury? You think charges would be appropriate?</p> <p>--virgil</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284995 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_284995 <p></p> <p>Suppose, they beat the guy causing serious injury? You think charges would be appropriate?</p> <p>--virgil</p> <p>I hope he goes to prison for beating this girl friend. Yes once in prison he will meet his kind. They will see him as weak for attacking his girl friend then whining in public. I'd be embarrassed to show my face. As for the two who rescued the woman. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STEPPING UP FOR THIS WOMAN. Usually a weak man like this has many more victims in the past and will have in the future. I would support if someone got a fund going for these two GOOD SAMARITANS if no law firm steps up for them. I would donate to a fund which has been set up. As for those who believe they went to far. I have seen the countless victimization of others and remember as a youngster on various occasions stepped up. I was only 18 years this one time and this guy was beating a 8 month pregnant ex-girl friend at a bus stop. He had broke her nose as I got out of my car alone after midnight in East Los Angeles. I now what happens to someone when they see others in need and step in. When your adrenaline pumps you do not stop until the criminal stops. You have to stop the threat and you keep going until they say uncle or you knock them out. This guy here ran, luckily for me cause I was scared, getting tired, but I didn't stop pounding till the threat was gone. I then got her in my car and took her three blocks to the Police Station. I told them what I did to him and she agreed. She was given medical attention and thanked me. The police also thanked me and patted&nbsp; me on the back sent on my way and waited to be called for a witness once they arrested him. I had this happen to me two more times over the next several months where I was in a position to help someone being assaulted, it is scary. But people do it. &nbsp;I bet this idiot in Bakersfield kept fighting till they dropped him and if he didn't who cares.</p> <p>I can see him now in the hospital thinking how he can sue these two GOOD SAMARITANS&nbsp;civilly. When he gets to prison he will get a jail house lawyer to help him do it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Ya see unless something is done immediately for&nbsp;the victim, the victim&nbsp;becomes more severely injured. The Law Enforcement unless there at the time of the crime&nbsp;can only respond when called. I am thank full for the Law Enforcement here in Kern County. I support them&nbsp;and know they do an excellent job. Just think everyday they go out and enforce the Law and have to remain with in the Law. That's hard to do, but they they do it. They are professionals and are trained,&nbsp; and yet they also have emotions.&nbsp; Unless these two citizens have been trained how can they be prosecuted. They just wanted to stop the threat.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285019 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285019 <p>I hope he goes to prison for beating this girl friend. Yes once in prison he will meet his kind. They will see him as weak for attacking his girl friend then whining in public. I'd be embarrassed to show my face. As for the two who rescued the woman. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STEPPING UP FOR THIS WOMAN. Usually a weak man like this has many more victims in the past and will have in the future. I would support if someone got a fund going for these two GOOD SAMARITANS if no law firm steps up for them. I would donate to a fund which has been set up. As for those who believe they went to far. I have seen the countless victimization of others and remember as a youngster on various occasions stepped up. I was only 18 years this one time and this guy was beating a 8 month pregnant ex-girl friend at a bus stop. He had broke her nose as I got out of my car alone after midnight in East Los Angeles. I now what happens to someone when they see others in need and step in. When your adrenaline pumps you do not stop until the criminal stops. You have to stop the threat and you keep going until they say uncle or you knock them out. This guy here ran, luckily for me cause I was scared, getting tired, but I didn't stop pounding till the threat was gone. I then got her in my car and took her three blocks to the Police Station. I told them what I did to him and she agreed. She was given medical attention and thanked me. The police also thanked me and patted&nbsp; me on the back sent on my way and waited to be called for a witness once they arrested him. I had this happen to me two more times over the next several months where I was in a position to help someone being assaulted, it is scary. But people do it. &nbsp;I bet this idiot in Bakersfield kept fighting till they dropped him and if he didn't who cares.</p> <p>I can see him now in the hospital thinking how he can sue these two GOOD SAMARITANS&nbsp;civilly. When he gets to prison he will get a jail house lawyer to help him do it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Ya see unless something is done immediately for&nbsp;the victim, the victim&nbsp;becomes more severely injured. The Law Enforcement unless there at the time of the crime&nbsp;can only respond when called. I am thank full for the Law Enforcement here in Kern County. I support them&nbsp;and know they do an excellent job. Just think everyday they go out and enforce the Law and have to remain with in the Law. That's hard to do, but they they do it. They are professionals and are trained,&nbsp; and yet they also have emotions.&nbsp; Unless these two citizens have been trained how can they be prosecuted. They just wanted to stop the threat.</p> <p>travis and anthony <u>should</u> be out tonight, jarry's&nbsp;lil bitch ass&nbsp;goes to court monday</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285065 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285065 <p>travis and anthony <u>should</u> be out tonight, jarry's&nbsp;lil bitch ass&nbsp;goes to court monday</p> <p></p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; some one is willing to help a person in need, and everyone goes after them like there some every day gang bangers, as far as im concerned they did'nt beat his ass enough if he's able to walk out of the hospital i think he needed a lil more...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285069 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285069 <p></p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; some one is willing to help a person in need, and everyone goes after them like there some every day gang bangers, as far as im concerned they did'nt beat his ass enough if he's able to walk out of the hospital i think he needed a lil more...</p> <p>Hmmm...what are these guys names....uhh...Jerry...Travis....and Anthony....wouldn't think guys with names like that would be involved in a ......FIGHT!!! OMG...WHAT? Oh shoot....the last names....dang : (</p> <p>Wow, and they weren't even being attacked? You mean, they were trying to defend a helpless woman, who was being beaten. I guess if you are trying to defend  yourself, the LAW finds fault, but as long as you are trying to protect someone else, it's o.k to use "OVERKILL" and hospitalize.</p> <p>The men should be charged. There was no reason for beating the suspect to the point of unconsciousness. Any woman who has been beaten to this degree is not a virgin to being assaulted. Unfortunately, calling the police should have been the only intervention.</p> <p>Had these men been injured themselves trying to protect this woman, would be greatly disappointed to know, that 9 times out of 10, she will go back to this "woman-beater".</p> <p>I agree with Lana...he would know my license plate number from constant reminder....lol.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285081 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285081 <p>Hmmm...what are these guys names....uhh...Jerry...Travis....and Anthony....wouldn't think guys with names like that would be involved in a ......FIGHT!!! OMG...WHAT? Oh shoot....the last names....dang : (</p> <p>Wow, and they weren't even being attacked? You mean, they were trying to defend a helpless woman, who was being beaten. I guess if you are trying to defend  yourself, the LAW finds fault, but as long as you are trying to protect someone else, it's o.k to use "OVERKILL" and hospitalize.</p> <p>The men should be charged. There was no reason for beating the suspect to the point of unconsciousness. Any woman who has been beaten to this degree is not a virgin to being assaulted. Unfortunately, calling the police should have been the only intervention.</p> <p>Had these men been injured themselves trying to protect this woman, would be greatly disappointed to know, that 9 times out of 10, she will go back to this "woman-beater".</p> <p>I agree with Lana...he would know my license plate number from constant reminder....lol.</p> <p>Certainly if I was getting my a** beat, I'd appreciate the help from anyone!! I'm glad the charges were dropped as they should've been in the first place.&nbsp; And maybe she will go back to the woman beater but at least these guys won't have to look back and say they should have, could have and would have while she could've been 6 feet under.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285122 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285122 <p>Certainly if I was getting my a** beat, I'd appreciate the help from anyone!! I'm glad the charges were dropped as they should've been in the first place.&nbsp; And maybe she will go back to the woman beater but at least these guys won't have to look back and say they should have, could have and would have while she could've been 6 feet under.</p> <p>What is more pathetic, a woman-beater, or a woman that continually finds herself being beaten by the same woman-beater?</p> <p>I wouldn't want to be 6 ft under trying to protect a woman that doesn't want to protect herself.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Maybe my point may be understood if I phrase it like this......&quot;Shanequa, was being beat by Tyrone, but &quot;Dre and T-Bone jumped Tyrone and beat him almost to death&quot;. Now, maybe there will be a different outlook...hmmm no question about whether Dre and T-Bone are gang members...no questions about whether Dre and T-Bone have previous criminal records... no question about whether Dre and T-Bone ever had previous trouble-making past?</p> <p>How odd this forum is?</p> <p>Those men had no right to beat that man unconscious...they became judges; jury; and executioners. What gave them the right to exact that punishment?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285145 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285145 <p>What is more pathetic, a woman-beater, or a woman that continually finds herself being beaten by the same woman-beater?</p> <p>I wouldn't want to be 6 ft under trying to protect a woman that doesn't want to protect herself.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Maybe my point may be understood if I phrase it like this......&quot;Shanequa, was being beat by Tyrone, but &quot;Dre and T-Bone jumped Tyrone and beat him almost to death&quot;. Now, maybe there will be a different outlook...hmmm no question about whether Dre and T-Bone are gang members...no questions about whether Dre and T-Bone have previous criminal records... no question about whether Dre and T-Bone ever had previous trouble-making past?</p> <p>How odd this forum is?</p> <p>Those men had no right to beat that man unconscious...they became judges; jury; and executioners. What gave them the right to exact that punishment?</p> &nbsp; They were given that right by the women beater, when he took it out in public. I agree that it's real sad that a women will either stay with or go back to a low life snake like that. But they do. These two men put an ass- beaten on this guy that was probably long over due. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285148 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285148 &nbsp; They were given that right by the women beater, when he took it out in public. I agree that it's real sad that a women will either stay with or go back to a low life snake like that. But they do. These two men put an ass- beaten on this guy that was probably long over due. <p>Real cute charlotteswebb66 (hear my sarcasim?).   He beat her in public, what were they supposed to do call the cops and sit and watch? <b>I don't agree at all with any man, regardless of race to beat on a woman</b>, that's wrong and not how I was raised.  But you know, if she does go back to him, shame on her.</p> <p>One more thing, your point was understood, we aren't morons here.  I just can't figure out why would you bring race into the picture.  GEEEEZZZZ!!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285259 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285259 <p>Real cute charlotteswebb66 (hear my sarcasim?).   He beat her in public, what were they supposed to do call the cops and sit and watch? <b>I don't agree at all with any man, regardless of race to beat on a woman</b>, that's wrong and not how I was raised.  But you know, if she does go back to him, shame on her.</p> <p>One more thing, your point was understood, we aren't morons here.  I just can't figure out why would you bring race into the picture.  GEEEEZZZZ!!</p> <p>Lana and Michelle - Thanks for saying what I wanted to, but couldn't.</p> <p>There are a few people who will ALWAYS jump to conclusions before all is known. Always have been, always will be.&nbsp;</p> <p>This incident happened in public and the public chose to act. Pure and simple. Maybe, notice the maybe, <i>maybe </i>they knew the guy would be a continued threat if conscious. I still don't know.</p> <p>The D.A., at least in this case, showed some common sense in dropping charges. Thanks to all who spoke up, blogged and e-mailed to keep me posted yesterday.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285270 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285270 <p>Lana and Michelle - Thanks for saying what I wanted to, but couldn't.</p> <p>There are a few people who will ALWAYS jump to conclusions before all is known. Always have been, always will be.&nbsp;</p> <p>This incident happened in public and the public chose to act. Pure and simple. Maybe, notice the maybe, <i>maybe </i>they knew the guy would be a continued threat if conscious. I still don't know.</p> <p>The D.A., at least in this case, showed some common sense in dropping charges. Thanks to all who spoke up, blogged and e-mailed to keep me posted yesterday.</p> <p>The part I thought was funny is when they dropped the charges they said no jury would convict them anyway.  LOL...waste of tax payer dollars.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285329 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285329 <p>The part I thought was funny is when they dropped the charges they said no jury would convict them anyway.  LOL...waste of tax payer dollars.</p> <p>Well we dont ever appreciate the beatter of kids asnd women.&nbsp; But were these two not guilty in the end of a crime themselves.&nbsp; It has never mattered how you sliced and diced, when I was guilty, I had to pay the pipper.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285339 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285339 <p>Well we dont ever appreciate the beatter of kids asnd women.&nbsp; But were these two not guilty in the end of a crime themselves.&nbsp; It has never mattered how you sliced and diced, when I was guilty, I had to pay the pipper.</p> <p>No One likes a kids or woman beater.&nbsp; But was there not another crime committed?&nbsp; No matter how it was ever explained, when I was wrong I had to pay the pipper.&nbsp; So you cant server partial justice here.&nbsp; If it is about the law, it should always be about the law.&nbsp; Not ok when some are ok with laws broken.&nbsp; Next you know, someone will rob a store and the owners will retailiate by robbing them back.&nbsp; Laws are laws.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285340 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285340 <p>No One likes a kids or woman beater.&nbsp; But was there not another crime committed?&nbsp; No matter how it was ever explained, when I was wrong I had to pay the pipper.&nbsp; So you cant server partial justice here.&nbsp; If it is about the law, it should always be about the law.&nbsp; Not ok when some are ok with laws broken.&nbsp; Next you know, someone will rob a store and the owners will retailiate by robbing them back.&nbsp; Laws are laws.</p> &nbsp; There is no laws that says you have to stand back and watch a helpless person be beaten to death. What Law was broken? If you, were being beaten by someone bigger then you, wouldn't you hope there were guys like these two there to help you? I know I would. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285352 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285352 &nbsp; There is no laws that says you have to stand back and watch a helpless person be beaten to death. What Law was broken? If you, were being beaten by someone bigger then you, wouldn't you hope there were guys like these two there to help you? I know I would. <p>Very true Hue,</p> <p>These men broke the law, but ...the "good-ole" boys of Bakersfield always take care of their own. Regardless of  my lack of knowledge in what happened, if it is a fact that these men beat another man unconscious...and the man was no threat to them, they should have called the police first.</p> <p>Thank Goodness their names weren't Tre and T-Bone.</p> <p>P.S. Michele....I didn't bring anyone's race into anything. Thanks for making my point.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285353 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285353 <p>Very true Hue,</p> <p>These men broke the law, but ...the "good-ole" boys of Bakersfield always take care of their own. Regardless of  my lack of knowledge in what happened, if it is a fact that these men beat another man unconscious...and the man was no threat to them, they should have called the police first.</p> <p>Thank Goodness their names weren't Tre and T-Bone.</p> <p>P.S. Michele....I didn't bring anyone's race into anything. Thanks for making my point.</p> &nbsp; Tre and T-bone, Good ole boys.....Yes you did charlotte! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285363 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285363 &nbsp; Tre and T-bone, Good ole boys.....Yes you did charlotte! <p>Lana,</p> <p>Yes I did .....What?</p> <p> </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285446 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285446 <p>Lana,</p> <p>Yes I did .....What?</p> <p> </p> &nbsp; I didn't bring anyone's race into anything. Yes you did! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285454 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285454 &nbsp; I didn't bring anyone's race into anything. Yes you did! <p>Good thing Bogue didn't beat her with the infamous &quot;ugly stick&quot; we have all heard about....</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285459 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285459 <p>Good thing Bogue didn't beat her with the infamous &quot;ugly stick&quot; we have all heard about....</p> <p>Funny business going on here.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285461 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285461 <p>Funny business going on here.</p> <p>Charlotte-you did when you brought in the names.  The only 3 T-Bones I know are black.  The only 2 Tre's I know are black and spell there name different. You did and it really wasn't necessary or funny at that.</p> <p> </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285547 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285547 <p>Charlotte-you did when you brought in the names.  The only 3 T-Bones I know are black.  The only 2 Tre's I know are black and spell there name different. You did and it really wasn't necessary or funny at that.</p> <p> </p> <p>Michele,</p> <p>No I did not, furthermore; I did not use the name Tre, I used Dre. I am a firm believer in "Freedom of Speech" , even if it isn't something I want to hear. I also believe in everyone having  rights to their own opinions. I can't determine someone's race just by their name, but you make a good argument for the alleged racial profiling done against blacks when they apply for jobs....THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH Michele, PRICELESS. It's odd, but I know a white guy named Tre, and a white guy named T-Bone, but those aren't their birth names. Their birth names are Trevis and Timothy. I have a very, very warped sense of humor, so I don't think you could possibly know what I consider funny to be. Hmmm....now you dictating to me what is necessary and funny....that's FUNNY :)</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285601 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285601 <p>Michele,</p> <p>No I did not, furthermore; I did not use the name Tre, I used Dre. I am a firm believer in "Freedom of Speech" , even if it isn't something I want to hear. I also believe in everyone having  rights to their own opinions. I can't determine someone's race just by their name, but you make a good argument for the alleged racial profiling done against blacks when they apply for jobs....THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH Michele, PRICELESS. It's odd, but I know a white guy named Tre, and a white guy named T-Bone, but those aren't their birth names. Their birth names are Trevis and Timothy. I have a very, very warped sense of humor, so I don't think you could possibly know what I consider funny to be. Hmmm....now you dictating to me what is necessary and funny....that's FUNNY :)</p> <p> Charlotte-I'm not going back and forth with you&nbsp;so please go back and re-read your post dated today at 226pm.&nbsp; Better yet, let me copy and paste it for you.&nbsp; Please don't talk to me racial profiling done against black and jobs, I do know it exists but this is not about race and jobs.&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="color: #0000ff">Thank Goodness their names weren't Tre and T-Bone.</span></p> <p><span style="">And that's where I seen the Tre.</span></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285609 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285609 <p> Charlotte-I'm not going back and forth with you&nbsp;so please go back and re-read your post dated today at 226pm.&nbsp; Better yet, let me copy and paste it for you.&nbsp; Please don't talk to me racial profiling done against black and jobs, I do know it exists but this is not about race and jobs.&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="color: #0000ff">Thank Goodness their names weren't Tre and T-Bone.</span></p> <p><span style="">And that's where I seen the Tre.</span></p> <p>LMAO.....It was a typo Michele, let go of the bone. I used the name Dre to make the point, in the original scenario but in the post reference I did type Tre, let me correct that...&quot;DRE&quot;. &nbsp;I really don't care what this topic is about, my point is to show how different people view issues when ethnicities are different from their own. I did not appreciate the comments made in other blogs when the stories were related to&nbsp;minorities and how acceptable the forums were to deduce the issues at hand to racial circumstance, and it is&nbsp;my right to post&nbsp;my opinion. It seems&nbsp;harsh to&nbsp;point out differences we have no control over such as ethnicity when&nbsp;the issue at&nbsp;hand requires not our judgments and insecurities&nbsp;but our compassion. The men are guilty of assault with a deadly weapon, and they should be charged. We know now that they won't be, and as understanding as many are to this issue, these men took the law into their own hands, and they should have been charged accordingly. Oh...michele, I originally was just giving my opinion....you didn't need to reply but in doing so you opened the door, now I'm closing it.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285655 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285655 <p>LMAO.....It was a typo Michele, let go of the bone. I used the name Dre to make the point, in the original scenario but in the post reference I did type Tre, let me correct that...&quot;DRE&quot;. &nbsp;I really don't care what this topic is about, my point is to show how different people view issues when ethnicities are different from their own. I did not appreciate the comments made in other blogs when the stories were related to&nbsp;minorities and how acceptable the forums were to deduce the issues at hand to racial circumstance, and it is&nbsp;my right to post&nbsp;my opinion. It seems&nbsp;harsh to&nbsp;point out differences we have no control over such as ethnicity when&nbsp;the issue at&nbsp;hand requires not our judgments and insecurities&nbsp;but our compassion. The men are guilty of assault with a deadly weapon, and they should be charged. We know now that they won't be, and as understanding as many are to this issue, these men took the law into their own hands, and they should have been charged accordingly. Oh...michele, I originally was just giving my opinion....you didn't need to reply but in doing so you opened the door, now I'm closing it.</p> <p>I thought I recognized your log-in name from another post.  You blogged with us when "Tre" I think last name was Goddard was killed correct?</p> <p>Anyhow, this is what blogging is about, giving our own opinions and replying to any and all posts, it is a public forum.  Nice chatting with you and have a good day!!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285699 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285699 <p>I thought I recognized your log-in name from another post.  You blogged with us when "Tre" I think last name was Goddard was killed correct?</p> <p>Anyhow, this is what blogging is about, giving our own opinions and replying to any and all posts, it is a public forum.  Nice chatting with you and have a good day!!</p> <p>I don't think any one should take the law in thier own hands.&nbsp; I do believe these guys did the right thing and felt they needed to go all the way so&nbsp;Bogue wouldn't come after them&nbsp;with the knife or stick.&nbsp; The guy is a coward and is the kind of person that would only pick on old people, women and children.&nbsp;&nbsp;It's&nbsp;easy to see he (Bogue) wasn't playing with a full deck&nbsp;or he wouldn't be doing&nbsp;what he was doing.&nbsp;If he is so tuff then why didn't he kick the other guys but?&nbsp; He also sliced a seven year olds swimming pool.&nbsp; What was she going to do?&nbsp; I think he was out of control.&nbsp; When these guys saw all that was going on, &nbsp;they did what they thought was right.&nbsp; After all they weren't out looking for a fight.&nbsp; I do wish they would have stopped short of knocking the guy out.&nbsp; I also would like to think Bogue learned a lesson and sees how it feels to have done onto you as you do onto others.&nbsp; If any one gets sued it will go down to the fact that alot of people are afraid to get envolved because of the outcome.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285739 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285739 <p>I don't think any one should take the law in thier own hands.&nbsp; I do believe these guys did the right thing and felt they needed to go all the way so&nbsp;Bogue wouldn't come after them&nbsp;with the knife or stick.&nbsp; The guy is a coward and is the kind of person that would only pick on old people, women and children.&nbsp;&nbsp;It's&nbsp;easy to see he (Bogue) wasn't playing with a full deck&nbsp;or he wouldn't be doing&nbsp;what he was doing.&nbsp;If he is so tuff then why didn't he kick the other guys but?&nbsp; He also sliced a seven year olds swimming pool.&nbsp; What was she going to do?&nbsp; I think he was out of control.&nbsp; When these guys saw all that was going on, &nbsp;they did what they thought was right.&nbsp; After all they weren't out looking for a fight.&nbsp; I do wish they would have stopped short of knocking the guy out.&nbsp; I also would like to think Bogue learned a lesson and sees how it feels to have done onto you as you do onto others.&nbsp; If any one gets sued it will go down to the fact that alot of people are afraid to get envolved because of the outcome.</p> <p>Yes Michele you are correct about the reference, and my daughter was also in that car. You have a very blessed day yourself.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285875 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285875 <p>Yes Michele you are correct about the reference, and my daughter was also in that car. You have a very blessed day yourself.</p> <p>OB...wow...just...wow....</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285878 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285878 <p>OB...wow...just...wow....</p> <p>OB -- I haven't seen the lady in question but perhaps if he had, THAT just might have qualified as&nbsp; &quot;overkill&quot; ??&nbsp; ;-)</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285923 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285923 <p>OB -- I haven't seen the lady in question but perhaps if he had, THAT just might have qualified as&nbsp; &quot;overkill&quot; ??&nbsp; ;-)</p> &nbsp; Ouch! What an UGLY comment! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285938 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285938 &nbsp; Ouch! What an UGLY comment! <p>Just a little jocularity lana.</p> <p>At least YOU got it.</p> <p>(not the stick though ;-)&nbsp; )</p> <p>All this T-Bone and Dr. Dre crap was gettin to me.............</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285940 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285940 <p>Just a little jocularity lana.</p> <p>At least YOU got it.</p> <p>(not the stick though ;-)&nbsp; )</p> <p>All this T-Bone and Dr. Dre crap was gettin to me.............</p> <p>It doesn't matter now. They will NOT be charged as the DA has said there is no way they could get a jury to convict them. I agree. The &quot;heat of the moment&quot; defense would have been employed in any case and would have been successful. Anselmo is right about malice. Even if there were, there is no way it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. As to them getting a public defender had they been charged, Are you serious? There would have been a line of pro bono lewyers to handle this case. If not for the idea that they would hope someone would protect a loved in that situation, then for the exposure!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285987 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_285987 <p>It doesn't matter now. They will NOT be charged as the DA has said there is no way they could get a jury to convict them. I agree. The &quot;heat of the moment&quot; defense would have been employed in any case and would have been successful. Anselmo is right about malice. Even if there were, there is no way it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. As to them getting a public defender had they been charged, Are you serious? There would have been a line of pro bono lewyers to handle this case. If not for the idea that they would hope someone would protect a loved in that situation, then for the exposure!</p> &nbsp;Hahaha~ Chico...... I do know a few people that climbed the ugly tree and fell...Hitting every branch on the way down! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_286020 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_286020 &nbsp;Hahaha~ Chico...... I do know a few people that climbed the ugly tree and fell...Hitting every branch on the way down! <p>Yeah,</p> <p>what ever Pablo</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_286393 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_286393 <p>Yeah,</p> <p>what ever Pablo</p> <p>How is it that you are a &quot;good samaritan&quot; when you go to this man's house TOGETHER to attack him???</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_287581 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_287581 <p>How is it that you are a &quot;good samaritan&quot; when you go to this man's house TOGETHER to attack him???</p> <p>It's&nbsp;acceptable to violate someone's civil rights when they violate those of a child or a woman..</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_287587 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_287587 <p>It's&nbsp;acceptable to violate someone's civil rights when they violate those of a child or a woman..</p> <p>jl79 I doubt those guys sat down and plotted an attack.&nbsp; The guy was beating the crap out of a woman and they jumped him.&nbsp; Simple enough.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_287602 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_287602 <p>jl79 I doubt those guys sat down and plotted an attack.&nbsp; The guy was beating the crap out of a woman and they jumped him.&nbsp; Simple enough.</p> <p>They could have just dropped a knee cap, that always put em out of action. ;=)))</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_287607 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_287607 <p>They could have just dropped a knee cap, that always put em out of action. ;=)))</p> <p>Hey Nancy its not simple enough... I know both parties involved and unless you do you shouldnt say that you doubt they would plan an attack!!!!!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_288786 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_288786 <p>Hey Nancy its not simple enough... I know both parties involved and unless you do you shouldnt say that you doubt they would plan an attack!!!!!</p> <p>hey jl79, guess you know the right story but the poor welfare vitcim is wanting the attention and someone to feel sorry for her ? pay her rent and utilties and buy her some new tires for her car thats what she wants!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_289175 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/BreakingNewsTeam/31126/#c_289175 <p>hey jl79, guess you know the right story but the poor welfare vitcim is wanting the attention and someone to feel sorry for her ? pay her rent and utilties and buy her some new tires for her car thats what she wants!</p>