http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047 &nbsp; One of the graphics that accompanies this article on the Reuters website is of a cute polar bear with the words, &ldquo;Help Fight Global Warming&rdquo; printed next to it. On that page is an image of a polar bear &ldquo;stranded&rdquo; on an iceberg. We are rather pathetically forced to remind people once again that polar bears can swim hundreds of miles and that their numbers are if anything increasing. We also learn from Dr Mitchell Taylor, who has been researching the status and management of polar bears in Canada and around the Arctic Circle for 30 years, that &ldquo;Polar bear numbers, far from decreasing, are much higher than they were 30 years ago. Of the 19 different bear populations, almost all are increasing or at optimum levels, only two have for local reasons modestly declined.&rdquo; However, few other people will get to hear about Taylor&rsquo;s work because he has been banned from involvement at the upcoming Copenhagen &ldquo;climate change&rdquo; conference, because his conclusions don&rsquo;t fit with the pre-determined mantra that &ldquo;global warming&rdquo; is killing polar bears. &nbsp; ------------------------------------ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Nature can&rsquo;t take unrestrained growth: Prince Charles Peter Griffiths Reuters Thursday, July 9, 2009 Reuters story here: www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSTRE5677CO20090708 &nbsp; One of the graphics that accompanies this article on the Reuters website is of a cute polar bear with the words, &ldquo;Help Fight Global Warming&rdquo; printed next to it. On that page is an image of a polar bear &ldquo;stranded&rdquo; on an iceberg. We are rather pathetically forced to remind people once again that polar bears can swim hundreds of miles and that their numbers are if anything increasing. We also learn from Dr Mitchell Taylor, who has been researching the status and management of polar bears in Canada and around the Arctic Circle for 30 years, that &ldquo;Polar bear numbers, far from decreasing, are much higher than they were 30 years ago. Of the 19 different bear populations, almost all are increasing or at optimum levels, only two have for local reasons modestly declined.&rdquo; However, few other people will get to hear about Taylor&rsquo;s work because he has been banned from involvement at the upcoming Copenhagen &ldquo;climate change&rdquo; conference, because his conclusions don&rsquo;t fit with the pre-determined mantra that &ldquo;global warming&rdquo; is killing polar bears. &nbsp; ------------------------------------ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Nature can&rsquo;t take unrestrained growth: Prince Charles Peter Griffiths Reuters Thursday, July 9, 2009 Reuters story here: www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSTRE5677CO20090708 en-us Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:18:10 PDT <p>You posted this subject just a few days ago and it was discussed with informed comments. I'd have to look it up, but I think PBS is broadcasting a documentary pertaining to what's going on with bears, including the polar bears.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420950 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420950 <p>You posted this subject just a few days ago and it was discussed with informed comments. I'd have to look it up, but I think PBS is broadcasting a documentary pertaining to what's going on with bears, including the polar bears.</p> <p><em><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; ">You posted this subject just a few days ago ...</span></strong></em></p> <p>Hence the word &quot;More&quot; in the blog title ; )</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420952 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420952 <p><em><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; ">You posted this subject just a few days ago ...</span></strong></em></p> <p>Hence the word &quot;More&quot; in the blog title ; )</p> <p>With your obvious intelligence, you could make a real difference in the world.</p> <p>Posting all this garbage here keeps you from your real destiny: changing the things you disagree with.</p> <p>You have the smarts. Make it happen.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420958 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420958 <p>With your obvious intelligence, you could make a real difference in the world.</p> <p>Posting all this garbage here keeps you from your real destiny: changing the things you disagree with.</p> <p>You have the smarts. Make it happen.</p> <p>So tell me elgin, a man cannot achieve his real destiny if he happens to disagree with certain&nbsp;positions? Who's to say info hasn't already made a real difference in the world? And just what is info supposed to make happen?</p> <p>Anyway...</p> <p>Climate change is occurring, but I still say we would be extremely arrogant to think WE have caused, or can do anything to stop, or even slow it down. The earth has experienced much more severe climate change many times&nbsp;in the past, and that past didn't, for the most part, involve mankind at all. Gee, maybe flies hadn't evolved enough to keep the methane levels down from all the dung heaps. Maybe it was just dinosaur farts.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420980 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420980 <p>So tell me elgin, a man cannot achieve his real destiny if he happens to disagree with certain&nbsp;positions? Who's to say info hasn't already made a real difference in the world? And just what is info supposed to make happen?</p> <p>Anyway...</p> <p>Climate change is occurring, but I still say we would be extremely arrogant to think WE have caused, or can do anything to stop, or even slow it down. The earth has experienced much more severe climate change many times&nbsp;in the past, and that past didn't, for the most part, involve mankind at all. Gee, maybe flies hadn't evolved enough to keep the methane levels down from all the dung heaps. Maybe it was just dinosaur farts.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><em>Climate change is occurring, but I still say we would be extremely arrogant to think WE have caused, or can do anything to stop, or even slow it down</em></p> <p>Human beings have two options:&nbsp; *TRY*&nbsp;to stop the damage we caused, or live with the consequences--massive death, and possible extinction.&nbsp; There's no longer any question that it's man-caused.&nbsp; All the other possibilities have been ruled out.&nbsp; Think Sherlock Holmes.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420994 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_420994 <p><em>Climate change is occurring, but I still say we would be extremely arrogant to think WE have caused, or can do anything to stop, or even slow it down</em></p> <p>Human beings have two options:&nbsp; *TRY*&nbsp;to stop the damage we caused, or live with the consequences--massive death, and possible extinction.&nbsp; There's no longer any question that it's man-caused.&nbsp; All the other possibilities have been ruled out.&nbsp; Think Sherlock Holmes.</p> <p>Whether or not global warming is man caused or not, we HAVE to stop burning hydrocarbons for energy.&nbsp;Drive up to Tehachapi and look down at our valley. That's the stuff we breath every&nbsp;minute of every day.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421016 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421016 <p>Whether or not global warming is man caused or not, we HAVE to stop burning hydrocarbons for energy.&nbsp;Drive up to Tehachapi and look down at our valley. That's the stuff we breath every&nbsp;minute of every day.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Studies of ice core samples show an unmistakable corrolation of pollution and the increase of consuming fossil fuels, dating from the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.</p> <p>That is not random making up facts; it is a fact. Nor are ice cores the only research.&nbsp; Other science disciplines with independent studies have reached the same conclusion.&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421297 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421297 <p>Studies of ice core samples show an unmistakable corrolation of pollution and the increase of consuming fossil fuels, dating from the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.</p> <p>That is not random making up facts; it is a fact. Nor are ice cores the only research.&nbsp; Other science disciplines with independent studies have reached the same conclusion.&nbsp;</p> <p>From the looks of that picture, the polar bears are eating the blue snow.&nbsp;That's their problem.</p> <p>Spam code: VSIFY. Sounds painful.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421299 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421299 <p>From the looks of that picture, the polar bears are eating the blue snow.&nbsp;That's their problem.</p> <p>Spam code: VSIFY. Sounds painful.</p> <p>So does anyone have any idea what percentage of those people who truly believe in the &quot;unmistakable correlation of pollution and the increase of consuming fossil fuels&quot;&nbsp; have actually ceased consuming fossil fuels?&nbsp; I'm thinking it is ohhh, about 0%.&nbsp; Imagine just how good the global warmers would feel about themselves if they would just &quot;practice what they preach&quot; and/or &quot;lead by example&quot;.&nbsp; It could well be just the thing to get the rest of us on board.&nbsp; Random, catpaw and the rest, keep us posted on that works out.</p> <p>History, Proportion, References</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421301 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421301 <p>So does anyone have any idea what percentage of those people who truly believe in the &quot;unmistakable correlation of pollution and the increase of consuming fossil fuels&quot;&nbsp; have actually ceased consuming fossil fuels?&nbsp; I'm thinking it is ohhh, about 0%.&nbsp; Imagine just how good the global warmers would feel about themselves if they would just &quot;practice what they preach&quot; and/or &quot;lead by example&quot;.&nbsp; It could well be just the thing to get the rest of us on board.&nbsp; Random, catpaw and the rest, keep us posted on that works out.</p> <p>History, Proportion, References</p> <p>I doubt anybody is saying that you have to completely stop using fossil fuels, even though there are plenty of people that don't. Are you one of those types that thinks we should be using it up as fast as we can, because we can? Let me know how that works out for ya.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>What I don't get is how people can actually think that burning a bunch of fossil fuel non stop would do nothing to the environment. That's like thinking if you put a pot of water on the stove and turned it on, only those hippie environmentalists would think the water would boil after a while. It's propoganda, I tell ya.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421318 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421318 <p>I doubt anybody is saying that you have to completely stop using fossil fuels, even though there are plenty of people that don't. Are you one of those types that thinks we should be using it up as fast as we can, because we can? Let me know how that works out for ya.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>What I don't get is how people can actually think that burning a bunch of fossil fuel non stop would do nothing to the environment. That's like thinking if you put a pot of water on the stove and turned it on, only those hippie environmentalists would think the water would boil after a while. It's propoganda, I tell ya.</p> <p>Why is it that not very many scientists agree with Dr Taylor? Could it be because he only wants to make a name for himself and has shoddy research? Could he be more concerned with his conservative (hilarious oxymoron here) ideology than with science? Why is it that Polar Bear experts strongly disagree with his findings?</p> <p>Why aren't conservatives more concerned with conserving nature and our natural resources? What exactly is it that you guys conserve? Values? Hahahahaha</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421319 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/Infowar/47047/#c_421319 <p>Why is it that not very many scientists agree with Dr Taylor? Could it be because he only wants to make a name for himself and has shoddy research? Could he be more concerned with his conservative (hilarious oxymoron here) ideology than with science? Why is it that Polar Bear experts strongly disagree with his findings?</p> <p>Why aren't conservatives more concerned with conserving nature and our natural resources? What exactly is it that you guys conserve? Values? Hahahahaha</p>