Chad Vegas: Religious Rightwing HYPOCRITE - - TSM's Blog - Bakersfield.com

Jun 14, 2008 at 07:06 AM : And a big standing...

And a big standing ovation for Chad and all those that support him.

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : CLAP &nbs...

CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP BRAVO..

WHAT?? its OK for a gay mayor out of KERN to pick up the gay flag but when a christian preacher does it ...its NOT??? Wheres them equal rights your so concerned about

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : ...

I want to make it clear that nothing short of complete opposition to homosexual marriage will be tolerated!

His arrogance is breathtaking!

I pay taxes and I WANT GAY MARRIAGES PERFORMED IN A COUNTY BUILDING THAT MY TAXES HELPED PAY FOR. I WANT GAY MARRIAGES PERFORMED BY A PUBLIC SERVANT WHO IS REIMBURSED FOR HER 8 HOURS A DAY BY TAXES THAT I PAY.

The prevailing law in California guarantees that Gays will be given the same rights that non gays have enjoyed since California's constitution was ratified. If an elected official feels that they can't uphold that constituion they should resign and use the private sector to further their agenda.

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : God hates hypocrites...

God hates hypocrites and those who support them.

Job 13:16 He also shall be my salvation: for an hypocrite shall not come before him.

Isaiah 32:6 For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : Goodmonrning...

Goodmonrning Audrey..hahah calm down.,..I think this is a slam on Vegas more than on Barnett and her doings..hes not an elected official not in the sense that a human being voted him into office

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : its OK for...

its OK for a gay mayor out of KERN to pick up the gay flag but when a christian preacher does it

Kinda early to be drinking, isn't it?

hes not an elected official

Yes he is.

He's an elected trustee of the Kern County School District.

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : hyp·o&m...

hyp·o·crite

Pronunciation:\ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\

1 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Sorry TSM it appears hes stating his beliefs and feelings

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : Ahhhhh, now it's...

Ahhhhh, now it's obvious Jason is away. I've seen "idiot" thrown about several times in reading posts this morning. You guys are very close to the spot where Jason usually steps in.

TSM..your arguments would be a lot better if you just stated them instead of trying to put the opponent down. Who are you trying to impress? You're a lot more intelligent than to need to put others down to make yourself look smart.

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : Tsm ...

Tsm -- Domestic partnership is one thing, but marraige is sacred. Insisting on calling same sex unions marraige can be percieved as an attack against the Church. So...... “should we obey man or God?” The choice is clear!" .....Bravo Chad.

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : eeewww resorts too...

eeewww resorts too name calling..always a healthy sign of someone worth discussing an issue with..guess i better pull out your favorite tool GOOGLE before we get too deep into this..but just incase you missed it he is a pastor

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : Well, guess it's...

Well, guess it's time to see how much power Vegas really has. :)

BTW, odd that he'd be putting this in a different context than Barnett's stated reason for stopping the ceremonies.

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : Tom, it's time to...

Tom, it's time to run *ONE* candidate against him on the school board, too.

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : From you...

From you posts in this and other blogs, sioux, you're not worth discussing any issue with. You're wholly unqualified.

Funny how you left out all the other definitions of hypocrite. You must be using an abridged dictionary.

You're right Nancy. I removed the remark.

but marraige is sacred

If marriage is so sacred, why do conservative Christians have the highest rates of divorce?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

And only allowing civil unions is an attack on gay Americans. It treats them as second class citizens.

Jun 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM : dcs, so Barnett is...

dcs, so Barnett is acting in her capacity as a minister in administering marriage licenses?

Jun 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM : Mr.Vegas has a right...

Mr.Vegas has a right to his opinions,wrong as they are,the same as you or I. He can rabble rouse to his hearts content,as can we all.

However we are above all else a nation of laws~ the law is clear in this case. Civil marriages are as sacred as the two people involved wish them to be,as are Church marriages. Where we get into trouble is confusing civil and church.....which church BTW?,which God,god or goddess,which belief?? That's were civil marriages come in and ends all of our hair splitting.

This was a service ,long held in our county,that we should reinstate and make profitable.

TSM~ you were so right,"The Devils Miner" was an awesome documentary~ perhaps a wedding with Tio would be appropriate! lol

Jun 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM : its OK for a gay mayor...

its OK for a gay mayor out of KERN to pick up the gay flag

Hall's gay? Who knew?

Jun 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM : Logic is never a...

Logic is never a strong point among ideologues. Ann Barnett is still contending that her decision was on financial, space and security grounds, which does not explain by she is insists on being represented by ADF, which has no interest in any space jam at the Taj Mahal, but is intensely concerned in fighting gay marriage on religious grounds.

Marylee Shrider says we just have to believe Ann Barnett, despite all of the evidence to the contrary, and attempts to explain away the ADF connect by saying, "Who was she supposed to consult? The ACLU?"

This is what is known as a "false comparison", something Marylee does all the time. In a "false comparison" a party attempts to justify a ridiculous action by pointing to an even more ridiculous action as the only alternative. So Marylee, the answer to your question is NO, what Barnett was supposed to do was take the advice of Barney Barmann, the County Counsel. The problem is that she didn't like his advice, so she contacted a bunch wingnuts.

Chad Vegas assumes that Barnett's action is on religious grounds, and threatens the Supervisors with divine retribution if they don't support her. Of course, Vegas' position means that Barnett is a liar, which, the last time I looked, was a sin. This doesn't seem to faze Vegas in the slightest.

Jun 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM : Sage, I'm now...

Sage, I'm now watching the John Adams mini-series that was produced by HBO. Laura Linney as Abigail Adams is stealing the show. She's doing a remarkable job. Paul Giamatti is miscast as John Adams, but is doing a good job. The rest of the cast is fantastic, especially Tom Wilkerson as Benjamin Franklin.

BakersfieldSuperman should watch it as well. He'd learn some history and he'd find out about the Tories.

Jun 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM : ... and the Revolution...

... and the Revolution begins.

Jun 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM : I, for one, favor 1776...

I, for one, favor 1776 as my favorite Revolutionary War movie. OK, so it's a Musical, I still smile every time William Daniels (who plays John Adams) says, "..I'm obnoxious and disliked.."

I'd guess that Chad Vegas has never watched 1776. It is a Musical, and some of those actors - gasp - just might be gay!

Jun 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM : hmm let me...

hmm let me guess why Im not a worthy opponent..possibly because I DO NOT agree with any thing you have ever stated in the past..well accept for those you google into the conversation..you admittedly disclosed that feature of your personality to Supy just the other day when you were trying to show how well you have it mastered and he was so sadly lacking your supreme quality's ..that is not brain power my friend..your still cheating on tests just like you did in high school in fact you remind me alot of that age group..if you feel threatend you resort to name calling and belittling your opponent

In a nutshell I usually steer clear from discussing such matters with someone so eloquent as yourself..Its a valued waste of my time

Jun 14, 2008 at 09:06 AM : TSM - I thoroughly...

TSM - I thoroughly enjoyed that HBO series... it definately put things into perspective, and it was extremely accurate on so many levels.

Jun 14, 2008 at 10:06 AM : I loved 1776~ but I am...

I loved 1776~ but I am still in the closet about my affection for musicals,it is all my mothers fault!! oops did I just say that out loud? lol

Jun 14, 2008 at 10:06 AM : The rumor I heard was...

The rumor I heard was Mayor Hall slept with Mrs. Flynn, half owner of Flynn Ambulance....and that's how he got Hall ambulance. So, maybe he's bi. But he loves those pinstrips, so maybe he's a pimp.

Jun 14, 2008 at 11:06 AM : How come it is OK for...

How come it is OK for the left wing progressives to always call us name and pretend THEY are right and have the majority on their side when nothing could be further from the truth! For example for years they tore into to us about abortion and then we find out the majority want some reasonable compromise especially on late term abortions. Gay rights. Same thing. They yell and scream at us with displays of debauchery and then we find out the Gay community is maybe 6-8% of the population.

We as Christian conservatives are simply fed up with the left and their practices of always being right and we Christian are noting more than misguided souls who are nuts and hypocrites!

Enough is enough. Shut up. The majority still rules!

Jun 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM : Neoconguy, the...

Neoconguy, the majority of liberals support some restrictions on late term abortions. That's a liberal position. And yes, liberals do support civil rights for everyone, including minorities. It also happens to be the reason our country was founded as a democratic republic instead of a direct democracy.

Jun 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM : Also, neoconguy:...

Also, neoconguy: "We as Christian conservatives are simply fed up with the left and their practices of always being right"

Sorry about that. Being right is just how we roll.

BTW, anyone ever think about the fact that Christian needs a modifier to indicate that it is not liberal?

Jun 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM : Gosh, Chad, if only...

Gosh, Chad, if only there was a religious test of some type we could implement before people would be allowed to hold elected office....

Oh, wait...

Jun 14, 2008 at 01:06 PM : LOL TomW ~ we do roll...

LOL TomW ~ we do roll that way! " They yell and scream at us with displays of debauchery " I missed that part...

Jun 14, 2008 at 01:06 PM : Heh, Sage. ...

Heh, Sage. Is that like Lois Henry having "the worst column you've ever heard"? ;)

Jun 14, 2008 at 01:06 PM : Must be Tom~ and I...

Must be Tom~ and I want to watch that display a couple of times to make sure it's a real debauchery! *giggles*

I just wish we could let each other live our lives in dignity and in peace.

Jun 14, 2008 at 01:06 PM : Yeah, Sage. ...

Yeah, Sage. I'll need to see it from a few different angles to be totally sure. ;)

Jun 14, 2008 at 01:06 PM : It's easy for us...

It's easy for us to sit back and type away and voice our opinions---but I think it would be a different story if we did what these individuals did...go before reporters and cameras and say what you all are blogging...now that takes 'whebbos'--(that's e-bonics ya-all)....

Jun 14, 2008 at 01:06 PM : When I filed a lawsuit...

When I filed a lawsuit against the city of Porterville for having a cross on public land I talked to a reporter on camera and gave my opinions. You just do it.

Jun 14, 2008 at 02:06 PM : Here's a cute...

Here's a cute joke for Chad :-)

THE GAY FLIGHT ATTENDANT
>
> My flight was being served by an obviously gay flight
> attendant, who seemed to put everyone in a good mood as he served us
> food and drinks.
>
> As the plane prepared to descend, he came swishing down the aisle
> and told us that 'Captain Marvey has asked me to announce
> that he'll be landing the big scary plane shortly, so lovely people,
> if you could just put your trays up, that would be super.'
>
> On his trip back up the aisle, he noticed this well-dressed auditor/controller woman hadn't moved a muscle.
>
> 'Perhaps you didn't hear me over those big brute engines but I asked
> you to raise your trazy-poo, so the main man can pitty-pat us on the
> ground.'
>
> She calmly turned her head and said, 'In my county, I
> am called a Princess and I take orders from no one.'
>
To which (I swear) the flight attendant replied without missing a beat,
> 'Well, sweet-cheeks, in my county I'm called a Queen,so I outrank you.
>
> Tray-up, Bitch.'

Jun 14, 2008 at 02:06 PM : Awesome joke, Witters!...

Awesome joke, Witters!

We're all entitled to our opinions.

The difference between us bloggers and Ann Barnett and Chad Vegas is, at the end of the day, our opinions are still that--opinions. Ann Barnett and Chad Vegas seem to believe that we are not entitled to our opinions. We are only entitled to THEIR opinions, and because they hold public office, their opinions are the ONLY opinions, and they're flexing their political muscles to shut up anyone who doesn't agree with them. Who said this is a free country? Not Ann or Chad.

There's a difference between opinion and law. If only Ann and Chad were smart enough to realize that.

Jun 14, 2008 at 03:06 PM : I don't like...

I don't like anyone trying to shove their agenda down my throat and/or 'threatening' me or others if we disagree with them. NOT EVEN!!! I did "adjust" some of the words in the joke and I actually had someone "dare" me to do it!!!!! Always up for a dare! Besides..............it IS funny!!!!!!

Jun 14, 2008 at 03:06 PM : JBS~ so right there.I...

JBS~ so right there.I have felt strongly about a couple of issues,enough so that I went before the city council and the board of supervisors,did T.V. also...the camera does not love me! lol The web,these little hometown blogs do make a difference as do writing the paper,your representatives and voting.

Witters~ I had hoped you'd put up that joke!

Jun 14, 2008 at 03:06 PM : OK WHOS SIDE ARE YOU...

OK WHOS SIDE ARE YOU ON

MORAL MAJORITY

Believe in God

Believe in Golden Rule

Boy Scouts

Abortion is wrong

Homosexuality is wrong

I believe in America

Flag and Country

Illegal immigration is wrong

Laws

Illegal Drugs hurt society

I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the U.S.A.

Believe in Holy Matrimony

Support the 2nd Amendment

Traditional Family Values

Responsible media

Prayer in schools

Ask Forgiveness go to heaven

IMMORAL MINORITY

Believe in nothing

Do what makes me feel good

NAMBLA

What’s wrong with partial birth abortion?

Homosexuality is the right way

Bash America

George Soros and the World

No fences all are welcome

Laws are made to be broken

Legalize all drugs-they do no harm

I Pledge Allegiance to the UN

Gay marriage is the norm

Ban all guns

No values

No rules "Lets rape the first lady"

Kids rule

There is no heaven..

Jun 14, 2008 at 03:06 PM : Wow, neocon, your list...

Wow, neocon, your list tells us so much about how your mind works. Pray, tell us how the "Golden Rule" provides a justification for denying marriage rights to homosexuals. Are you against straight marriage as well?

Jun 14, 2008 at 04:06 PM : Neoconguy, whose...

Neoconguy, whose side are you on:

Moral majority:

Believe in God or man - Just be a good person

Believe in the Golden Rule

Support the Boy Scouts and the values they teach

Abortion is personal

Homosexuality is personal

I believe in America and the Constitution

Flag and Country and the Bill of Rights

Illegal immigration is wrong, but walls don't work

Laws for everyone, applied equally

Illegal Drugs hurt society as does our current system for dealing with the problem

I Pledge Allegiance to the Values of the U.S.A.

Believe in Holy Matrimony for everyone

Support all the Amendments

Traditional Family Values

Responsible media

Prayer in schools should be voluntary

Ask Forgiveness go to heaven

Immoral Minority

Believe in nothing but conformity

Do what makes me feel good, usually by making others feel bad

NAMBLA for Congressmen

What’s wrong with partial birth abortion as long as no one finds out

Homosexuality is the right way as long as no one knows

Bash American values

George Soros and the World are against us

No fences all are welcome as long as we don't have to pay them a living wage

Laws are made to be broken

Make homemade drugs illegal - tax breaks for drug companies and drug your kids to the gills

I Pledge Allegiance to Rush

Gay marriage will make me gay

Allow all guns and then complain about guns

No values

No rules

Kids rule

There is no heaven for people who don't obey us

Jun 14, 2008 at 04:06 PM : Yes...

Yes Sage................it was MOI' !!!!!!

Jun 14, 2008 at 07:06 PM : Blast from the past I...

Blast from the past

I haven't heard the word "queer" used since Sammy Davis sported Nehru jackets and Beetle boots were all the rage.

Jun 14, 2008 at 07:06 PM : So spot You think we...

So spot

You think we should suppress the rights of 10% of our population just to make you and a few other Christian zealots happy?

Aint' going to happen babe. Not as long as the constituion remains in place.

Jun 14, 2008 at 11:06 PM : Spot/murphy. Same...

Spot/murphy. Same song, same dance.

Jun 15, 2008 at 12:06 PM : My PARTNER and I pay...

My PARTNER and I pay taxes in Kern county along with about 60 or more GAY friends of ours. The GAY population of Kern County should be about 10,00 according to stats. What about their tax money????

Chad Vegas seems to be an angry YOUNG man with NOTHING BETTER TO DO! Let him say what he wants and let him make threats! People see him for what he is!

Jun 15, 2008 at 12:06 PM : I think the real...

I think the real question here is.....When will Chad open up his compound in the Mojave Desert?

Jun 15, 2008 at 12:06 PM : I want to know when...

I want to know when he'll come out.

Spam code (I am not kidding) L FAGZ

Jun 15, 2008 at 01:06 PM : Now that you say that...

Now that you say that Random, how can a guy named Chad Vegas be against gay rights??? LOL