http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355 Why is it that &quot;Bakersfield&quot; is a punchline? Comedy Central's &quot;The Colbert Report&quot; featured a news piece by KGET Channel 17 last night, and all Colbert said was &quot;Bakersfield&quot; and he got a laugh. Are we that funny? Are people laughing because they're shocked we have news here? Or are they laughing because of the type of news that comes out of this town? In this case, Colbert showed portions of a KGET report about a Christian doctor who has rules for who he will and won't serve based on his religious beliefs. The doctor refused to see a young child because her mother has tattoos and piercings, forbidden in Leviticus 19:28. Colbert used this story for his feature &quot;The Word,&quot; getting another laugh for the term &quot;WWJD&quot; - What Would Jesus Dispense. A funny line: &quot;Say Ahhmen.&quot; The piece was hilarious. But I laughed more for the jokes about the Hippocratic Oath than the punchlines containing &quot;Bakersfield.&quot; Watch it for yourself! Why is it that &quot;Bakersfield&quot; is a punchline? Comedy Central's &quot;The Colbert Report&quot; featured a news piece by KGET Channel 17 last night, and all Colbert said was &quot;Bakersfield&quot; and he got a laugh. Are we that funny? Are people laughing because they're shocked we have news here? Or are they laughing because of the type of news that comes out of this town? In this case, Colbert showed portions of a KGET report about a Christian doctor who has rules for who he will and won't serve based on his religious beliefs. The doctor refused to see a young child because her mother has tattoos and piercings, forbidden in Leviticus 19:28. Colbert used this story for his feature &quot;The Word,&quot; getting another laugh for the term &quot;WWJD&quot; - What Would Jesus Dispense. A funny line: &quot;Say Ahhmen.&quot; The piece was hilarious. But I laughed more for the jokes about the Hippocratic Oath than the punchlines containing &quot;Bakersfield.&quot; Watch it for yourself! en-us Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:25:01 PST Television and almost everything on it is meant for entertainment purposes -not reality especially when they put their own spin on the story, television is only what you take from it.  Bakersfield can be funny especially when you add canned laughter...................... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63944 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63944 Television and almost everything on it is meant for entertainment purposes -not reality especially when they put their own spin on the story, television is only what you take from it.  Bakersfield can be funny especially when you add canned laughter...................... I think Carson was the one who spawned the Bakersfield as punchline genre of humor.&nbsp; If it's not this, it's Prussian Blue getting us the headlines.&nbsp; For myself, I thought both of these lines were funny because for guys like this doctor, that's what Christianity means.&nbsp; Someone should get him a Bible and have him read the red parts. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63948 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63948 I think Carson was the one who spawned the Bakersfield as punchline genre of humor.&nbsp; If it's not this, it's Prussian Blue getting us the headlines.&nbsp; For myself, I thought both of these lines were funny because for guys like this doctor, that's what Christianity means.&nbsp; Someone should get him a Bible and have him read the red parts. <p>TK says:</p> <p>The Dr.&rsquo;s office Is not a absolute private practice. He has decided to offer those that share his personal beliefs, the benefits of MY insurance company.</p> <p>He has a contract with Health Net. I am a member of Health Net which in effect makes the fine doctor an employee of mine.</p> <p>The Contract can and should be rescinded for failure to offer care. </p> <p>What do you think would happen to his practice in that case?</p> <p>The Dr. has contracted to my health insurance company. Most likely taking payment from a bookkeeper who has a butterfly tattooed on her buttocks.</p> <p>This doctor does not operate in a vacuum. His faith is not the center of a halo.</p> <p>His practice in some form. Depends on the actions of those he turns away from his office.</p> <p>He has no argument. </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63950 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63950 <p>TK says:</p> <p>The Dr.&rsquo;s office Is not a absolute private practice. He has decided to offer those that share his personal beliefs, the benefits of MY insurance company.</p> <p>He has a contract with Health Net. I am a member of Health Net which in effect makes the fine doctor an employee of mine.</p> <p>The Contract can and should be rescinded for failure to offer care. </p> <p>What do you think would happen to his practice in that case?</p> <p>The Dr. has contracted to my health insurance company. Most likely taking payment from a bookkeeper who has a butterfly tattooed on her buttocks.</p> <p>This doctor does not operate in a vacuum. His faith is not the center of a halo.</p> <p>His practice in some form. Depends on the actions of those he turns away from his office.</p> <p>He has no argument. </p> TK is absolutely correct.  The good doctor should be tossed by Health Net immediately.  Anyone who uses Health Net should complain to Health Net until he is gone from their referral lists. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63963 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63963 TK is absolutely correct.  The good doctor should be tossed by Health Net immediately.  Anyone who uses Health Net should complain to Health Net until he is gone from their referral lists. Shouldn't this doctor think that it is also a sin to not help a person in need of care. What if it was a person dying outside of his office that had tatttos would he just watch and let this person die. I that he is just a relious hypocrite. Yes the bible does say that one should not have tattoos and piercings, but it also says that you shall not judge anyone, only the Lord will give Judgement. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63988 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63988 Shouldn't this doctor think that it is also a sin to not help a person in need of care. What if it was a person dying outside of his office that had tatttos would he just watch and let this person die. I that he is just a relious hypocrite. Yes the bible does say that one should not have tattoos and piercings, but it also says that you shall not judge anyone, only the Lord will give Judgement. Well, it's not as if the doctor were a Samaritan or anything.&nbsp; More like a priest or a Levite, with his priorities clearly set up... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63993 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_63993 Well, it's not as if the doctor were a Samaritan or anything.&nbsp; More like a priest or a Levite, with his priorities clearly set up... <a class="quote" id="searchResults_quoteText" href="http://quotiki.com/quote.aspx?id=3868"><font color="#000000">&quot;The real measure of your wealth is how much you'd be worth if you lost all your money.&quot;</font></a><br /> <span id="ctl00_LeftSide_ctl00_resultsRepeater_ctl04_authorNameSpan"><font color="#000000">-&nbsp;</font><a class="author" id="searchResults_author" href="http://quotiki.com/person.aspx?au=1547"><font color="#000000">Anonymous</font></a></span> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64000 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64000 <a class="quote" id="searchResults_quoteText" href="http://quotiki.com/quote.aspx?id=3868"><font color="#000000">&quot;The real measure of your wealth is how much you'd be worth if you lost all your money.&quot;</font></a><br /> <span id="ctl00_LeftSide_ctl00_resultsRepeater_ctl04_authorNameSpan"><font color="#000000">-&nbsp;</font><a class="author" id="searchResults_author" href="http://quotiki.com/person.aspx?au=1547"><font color="#000000">Anonymous</font></a></span> You guys are such idiots.  You preach about equality and the freedom of speech and about the rights of each person, regardless of their age, race, religion, profession and social status; yet, that's not what you really mean.  What you really want is equality and freedom of speech for individuals whom you approve of, not for everyone.  Is it different to demand a woman's right to have an abortion but not a private practice doctors right to serve whom he wants?  Get over yourselves - clearly you have a biased opinion while you claim the world should be prejudice-free.  You are the ultimate contradiction. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64014 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64014 You guys are such idiots.  You preach about equality and the freedom of speech and about the rights of each person, regardless of their age, race, religion, profession and social status; yet, that's not what you really mean.  What you really want is equality and freedom of speech for individuals whom you approve of, not for everyone.  Is it different to demand a woman's right to have an abortion but not a private practice doctors right to serve whom he wants?  Get over yourselves - clearly you have a biased opinion while you claim the world should be prejudice-free.  You are the ultimate contradiction. Face it kids, Bakersfield is the butt of A LOT of jokes across the country, even here in Tulsa, OK.  Yes, the same Tulsa that UCLA said in 1995 "Where's Tulsa" before the NCAA tournament, the same Tulsa where many people in Bakersfield have family, and yes, the same Tulsa that became famous by Carson as "A SLUT backwards".  Even those from Bakersfield call it the "Armpit of CA".  It sucks, but, it comes with the territory.  http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64016 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64016 Face it kids, Bakersfield is the butt of A LOT of jokes across the country, even here in Tulsa, OK.  Yes, the same Tulsa that UCLA said in 1995 "Where's Tulsa" before the NCAA tournament, the same Tulsa where many people in Bakersfield have family, and yes, the same Tulsa that became famous by Carson as "A SLUT backwards".  Even those from Bakersfield call it the "Armpit of CA".  It sucks, but, it comes with the territory.  <p>Annoy says:</p> <p>but not a private practice doctors right to serve whom he wants?</p> <p>TK says:</p> <p>If the kind Dr. takes money from a Tattooed bookkeeper.</p> <p>He should be willing to render her medical care.</p> <p>This is not a question of rights. But rather one of responsibilities, ethics and fairness.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64018 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64018 <p>Annoy says:</p> <p>but not a private practice doctors right to serve whom he wants?</p> <p>TK says:</p> <p>If the kind Dr. takes money from a Tattooed bookkeeper.</p> <p>He should be willing to render her medical care.</p> <p>This is not a question of rights. But rather one of responsibilities, ethics and fairness.</p> Anon, I think that this guy has the right to do this, just as Ann Coulter has the right to use the language she does when speaking for the Republican Party.&nbsp; I also think that we have the right to talk about it, the right to ask Health Net if this is the type of doctor they want to have on their lists, etc.&nbsp; (You can ask them about it here: https://www.healthnet.com/portal/member/viewContactUsForm.sdo? )&nbsp; Saying he shouldn't is not the same as saying he doesn't have the right to.&nbsp; Of course, if it turns out that the California Medical Board has rules against this, so be it.&nbsp; They have to have standards too. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64021 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64021 Anon, I think that this guy has the right to do this, just as Ann Coulter has the right to use the language she does when speaking for the Republican Party.&nbsp; I also think that we have the right to talk about it, the right to ask Health Net if this is the type of doctor they want to have on their lists, etc.&nbsp; (You can ask them about it here: https://www.healthnet.com/portal/member/viewContactUsForm.sdo? )&nbsp; Saying he shouldn't is not the same as saying he doesn't have the right to.&nbsp; Of course, if it turns out that the California Medical Board has rules against this, so be it.&nbsp; They have to have standards too. <strong>Anon</strong>, a doctor doesn't have the &quot;right&quot; to refuse medical care to a patient. Period. Doubly so if they do it based on a <em>religious</em> (i.e. made-up/make believe) principle. &quot;Separate but equal&quot; went out of style a half-century ago. This isn't a case of religious persecution, so stop trying to act as though it is. (BTW, it's <em>very</em> brave of you to call us idiots (without even a <em>hint</em> of irony) and hide behind an anon tag.) http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64023 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64023 <strong>Anon</strong>, a doctor doesn't have the &quot;right&quot; to refuse medical care to a patient. Period. Doubly so if they do it based on a <em>religious</em> (i.e. made-up/make believe) principle. &quot;Separate but equal&quot; went out of style a half-century ago. This isn't a case of religious persecution, so stop trying to act as though it is. (BTW, it's <em>very</em> brave of you to call us idiots (without even a <em>hint</em> of irony) and hide behind an anon tag.) Actually, Mattloch, I think he does.&nbsp; I know it sucks and I don't agree, but I think it is correct.&nbsp; The only requirement is that you refer the patient to someone else and the delay doesn't cause severe injury or death.&nbsp; So if the baby had died, he could lose his license, but otherwise he's fine.&nbsp; This is why we need to put light on this.&nbsp; No one should be refering patients to him. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64024 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64024 Actually, Mattloch, I think he does.&nbsp; I know it sucks and I don't agree, but I think it is correct.&nbsp; The only requirement is that you refer the patient to someone else and the delay doesn't cause severe injury or death.&nbsp; So if the baby had died, he could lose his license, but otherwise he's fine.&nbsp; This is why we need to put light on this.&nbsp; No one should be refering patients to him. <p>Who has led you to believe the world is fair?&nbsp; This was not an emergency situation and the doctor commited no wrong.&nbsp; It is simply a matter of his beliefs.&nbsp; I saw the report on the news, where the mother claimed that her daughter was not able to receive medical care throughout the entire night because this doctor refused treatment.&nbsp; Were no Emergency Rooms open?&nbsp; Was this mother so negligent that even though she thought her daughter needed medical attention immediately, she failed to visit an Urgent Care?&nbsp; Or was it the mothers choice and right to wait throughout the night to seek treatment?&nbsp; Much as it was the doctors choice and right to decide to post rules and regulations (as many&nbsp;other business outside the medical field do) regarding the atmosphere of an office he runs?&nbsp; This is not a legal issue, it's an issue of rights.&nbsp; He has rights, just as the mother does.&nbsp; Are there not other pediatricians in town that are available?&nbsp; </p> <p>There is a sign outside the door at Mexicali Restaurant on California Avenue that states a dress code is in effect.&nbsp; Why is there not an uproar about that?&nbsp; What if someone wants to eat there but is wearing a tank top and cut-off shorts?&nbsp; The answer is: too bad, go somewhere else.&nbsp; </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64025 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64025 <p>Who has led you to believe the world is fair?&nbsp; This was not an emergency situation and the doctor commited no wrong.&nbsp; It is simply a matter of his beliefs.&nbsp; I saw the report on the news, where the mother claimed that her daughter was not able to receive medical care throughout the entire night because this doctor refused treatment.&nbsp; Were no Emergency Rooms open?&nbsp; Was this mother so negligent that even though she thought her daughter needed medical attention immediately, she failed to visit an Urgent Care?&nbsp; Or was it the mothers choice and right to wait throughout the night to seek treatment?&nbsp; Much as it was the doctors choice and right to decide to post rules and regulations (as many&nbsp;other business outside the medical field do) regarding the atmosphere of an office he runs?&nbsp; This is not a legal issue, it's an issue of rights.&nbsp; He has rights, just as the mother does.&nbsp; Are there not other pediatricians in town that are available?&nbsp; </p> <p>There is a sign outside the door at Mexicali Restaurant on California Avenue that states a dress code is in effect.&nbsp; Why is there not an uproar about that?&nbsp; What if someone wants to eat there but is wearing a tank top and cut-off shorts?&nbsp; The answer is: too bad, go somewhere else.&nbsp; </p> <p>And likewise he has a &quot;right&quot; not to treat Jews, or blacks, or (what is the approved Conservative term?&nbsp; Oh yeah:) &quot;faggots,&quot; too.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64026 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64026 <p>And likewise he has a &quot;right&quot; not to treat Jews, or blacks, or (what is the approved Conservative term?&nbsp; Oh yeah:) &quot;faggots,&quot; too.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Annoy says:</p> <p>Who has led you to believe the world is fair?</p> <p>TK says:</p> <p>No one that I know of. But I strive for fairness. </p> <p>As far as ER&rsquo;s</p> <p>A doctor&rsquo;s visit to a assigned doctor, is $7 through Health Net. ER care is $50. And in this case would have been a horrible waste of medical resources. </p> <p>You continue to ignore the fact that the Dr. is contracted through the same insurance company as the child in question..</p> <p>If Mexicali was contracted to Goodwill Industries. I would expect Mexicali to adjust their dress code accordingly.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64028 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64028 <p>Annoy says:</p> <p>Who has led you to believe the world is fair?</p> <p>TK says:</p> <p>No one that I know of. But I strive for fairness. </p> <p>As far as ER&rsquo;s</p> <p>A doctor&rsquo;s visit to a assigned doctor, is $7 through Health Net. ER care is $50. And in this case would have been a horrible waste of medical resources. </p> <p>You continue to ignore the fact that the Dr. is contracted through the same insurance company as the child in question..</p> <p>If Mexicali was contracted to Goodwill Industries. I would expect Mexicali to adjust their dress code accordingly.</p> Exactly, RF.&nbsp; I know.&nbsp; Some people don't take being a doctor or a Christian for that matter very seriously.&nbsp; It's too bad, but I don't think legally enforceable. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64029 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64029 Exactly, RF.&nbsp; I know.&nbsp; Some people don't take being a doctor or a Christian for that matter very seriously.&nbsp; It's too bad, but I don't think legally enforceable. Anon brings up a very good point too.&nbsp; There are other pediatricians in town.&nbsp; Everyone in town should know the name Gary Merrill. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64031 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64031 Anon brings up a very good point too.&nbsp; There are other pediatricians in town.&nbsp; Everyone in town should know the name Gary Merrill. At least we have those new signs bookending the City to overcome the negative publicity that this a** of a doctor has caused. /problem solved http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64033 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64033 At least we have those new signs bookending the City to overcome the negative publicity that this a** of a doctor has caused. /problem solved <p>I am sure that Annoy and Gary Merrill respect my right to free speech.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64034 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64034 <p>I am sure that Annoy and Gary Merrill respect my right to free speech.</p> They don't have to, Tkozy.&nbsp; The problem with being a good person is that it's tough.&nbsp; Or so I've heard. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64036 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64036 They don't have to, Tkozy.&nbsp; The problem with being a good person is that it's tough.&nbsp; Or so I've heard. <a class="quote" id="searchResults_quoteText" href="http://quotiki.com/quote.aspx?id=3578"><font color="#000000">&quot;Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.&quot;</font></a><br /> <span id="ctl00_LeftSide_searchControl_resultsRepeater_ctl02_authorNameSpan"><font color="#000000">-&nbsp;</font><a class="author" id="searchResults_author" href="http://quotiki.com/person.aspx?au=1511"><font color="#000000">Albert Einstein</font></a></span> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64042 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64042 <a class="quote" id="searchResults_quoteText" href="http://quotiki.com/quote.aspx?id=3578"><font color="#000000">&quot;Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.&quot;</font></a><br /> <span id="ctl00_LeftSide_searchControl_resultsRepeater_ctl02_authorNameSpan"><font color="#000000">-&nbsp;</font><a class="author" id="searchResults_author" href="http://quotiki.com/person.aspx?au=1511"><font color="#000000">Albert Einstein</font></a></span> <p>Regarding the contract:&nbsp; There are other doctors contracted through Health Net as well.&nbsp; Pick another one, problem solved.&nbsp; <em>Doctors</em> choose which healthcare agencies they contract with, <em>not the other way around</em>.&nbsp; After the contract is negotiated, the insurance company doesn't demand how the office is run by the doctors unless specifically stated in the contract.&nbsp; If there are no stipulations regarding this issue in Dr. Merrill's contract, then there has been no wrong.&nbsp; Health Net didn't &quot;choose&quot; this particular doctor, he choose them.&nbsp; Just like my children's pediatrician chooses not to accept patients with MediCal/MediCare.&nbsp; </p> <p>My kid's pediatrician is also a self-proclaimed Christian and a wonderful doctor (the best in town, if you ask me) and I have not known him to have restrictions like Dr. Merrill does.&nbsp; I'm not sure if I agree with Dr. Merrill's regulations; however, I do agree with his RIGHT to have these regulations.&nbsp; The bottom line is this: If you don't like it, just go somewhere else.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64047 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64047 <p>Regarding the contract:&nbsp; There are other doctors contracted through Health Net as well.&nbsp; Pick another one, problem solved.&nbsp; <em>Doctors</em> choose which healthcare agencies they contract with, <em>not the other way around</em>.&nbsp; After the contract is negotiated, the insurance company doesn't demand how the office is run by the doctors unless specifically stated in the contract.&nbsp; If there are no stipulations regarding this issue in Dr. Merrill's contract, then there has been no wrong.&nbsp; Health Net didn't &quot;choose&quot; this particular doctor, he choose them.&nbsp; Just like my children's pediatrician chooses not to accept patients with MediCal/MediCare.&nbsp; </p> <p>My kid's pediatrician is also a self-proclaimed Christian and a wonderful doctor (the best in town, if you ask me) and I have not known him to have restrictions like Dr. Merrill does.&nbsp; I'm not sure if I agree with Dr. Merrill's regulations; however, I do agree with his RIGHT to have these regulations.&nbsp; The bottom line is this: If you don't like it, just go somewhere else.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Or, exercise your right to complain to Health Net about *THAT* particular doctor.&nbsp; If enough subscribers do so, the doctor can &quot;just go somewhere else.&quot; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64048 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64048 Or, exercise your right to complain to Health Net about *THAT* particular doctor.&nbsp; If enough subscribers do so, the doctor can &quot;just go somewhere else.&quot; <p>Annoy says:</p> <p>Doctors choose which healthcare agencies they contract with, not the other way around.</p> <p><em>TK says:</em></p> <p><em>Do you suppose that the Doctor negotiated the Tattoo issue? If so, Health Net is clearly at fault.</em></p> <p><em>Again. The doctor denied medical care to a child of a person with a tattoo. Will he deny payment from the Sister of a child with a tattoo..</em></p> <p><em>The Dr. has contracted to my health insurance company. Most likely taking payment from a bookkeeper who has a butterfly tattooed on her buttocks.</em></p> <p><em>This doctor does not operate in a vacuum. His faith is not the center of a halo.</em></p> <p><em>His practice in some form. Depends on the actions of those he turns away from his office.</em></p> <p><em>He has no argument. </em></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64049 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64049 <p>Annoy says:</p> <p>Doctors choose which healthcare agencies they contract with, not the other way around.</p> <p><em>TK says:</em></p> <p><em>Do you suppose that the Doctor negotiated the Tattoo issue? If so, Health Net is clearly at fault.</em></p> <p><em>Again. The doctor denied medical care to a child of a person with a tattoo. Will he deny payment from the Sister of a child with a tattoo..</em></p> <p><em>The Dr. has contracted to my health insurance company. Most likely taking payment from a bookkeeper who has a butterfly tattooed on her buttocks.</em></p> <p><em>This doctor does not operate in a vacuum. His faith is not the center of a halo.</em></p> <p><em>His practice in some form. Depends on the actions of those he turns away from his office.</em></p> <p><em>He has no argument. </em></p> <p>Absolutely.&nbsp; You absolutely have the right to make a complaint.&nbsp; Just don't get your hopes up about him being removed from Health Net.&nbsp; They are going to tell you the same thing:&nbsp; Thank you for your concern and we will definitely take this into consideration.&nbsp; However, I'm sure that there is at least one person in town who has issues with every single doctor who we are contracted with, and if we took everyone off, you would be without medical care in Bakersfield.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64050 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64050 <p>Absolutely.&nbsp; You absolutely have the right to make a complaint.&nbsp; Just don't get your hopes up about him being removed from Health Net.&nbsp; They are going to tell you the same thing:&nbsp; Thank you for your concern and we will definitely take this into consideration.&nbsp; However, I'm sure that there is at least one person in town who has issues with every single doctor who we are contracted with, and if we took everyone off, you would be without medical care in Bakersfield.</p> <p>Here's a couple links I found, fyi.&nbsp; They don't fully explain the legalities of this particular situation, but it's a place to start.</p> <p><a href="http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Complaint_Info_FAQ_Gen.htm">http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Complaint_Info_FAQ_Gen.htm</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.physiciansnews.com/law/202.html">http://www.physiciansnews.com/law/202.html</a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64051 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64051 <p>Here's a couple links I found, fyi.&nbsp; They don't fully explain the legalities of this particular situation, but it's a place to start.</p> <p><a href="http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Complaint_Info_FAQ_Gen.htm">http://www.medbd.ca.gov/Complaint_Info_FAQ_Gen.htm</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.physiciansnews.com/law/202.html">http://www.physiciansnews.com/law/202.html</a></p> <p>This is no longer a one person issue.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>It has gone national..</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64052 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64052 <p>This is no longer a one person issue.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>It has gone national..</p> TK:&nbsp; This whole &quot;bookeeper with a butterfly tattoo&quot; and &quot;sister of a child with a tattoo&quot; thing - they are all hypothetical.&nbsp; It's impossible to argue these issues because they don't exsist right now.&nbsp; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64053 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64053 TK:&nbsp; This whole &quot;bookeeper with a butterfly tattoo&quot; and &quot;sister of a child with a tattoo&quot; thing - they are all hypothetical.&nbsp; It's impossible to argue these issues because they don't exsist right now.&nbsp; <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I have no idea which plan the doctor is contracted to. But the folowing is from the Health Net webpage..</p> <strong><font size="6"> <p>Medicare Supplement Plan </p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <strong><font size="5"> <p><font size="2">The health care you want . . . The choice you deserve</font></p> </font> <p><font size="2">It's your choice. With Health Net's Medicare Supplement Plan, you can see <font color="#ff0000">any doctor</font> who accepts Medicare, including specialists, at any time. No referrals or authorizations needed. You'll get peace of mind from <font color="#ff0000">seeing the doctor of your choice</font>, and savings from a plan that helps pay for Medicare deductibles, coinsurance and more.</font></p> </strong></font> <p><a href="https://www.healthnet.com/portal/member/content.do?mainResourceFile=/content/general/unprotected/html/ca/plans/medicare/ca_medicare_plan_desc_main.html">https://www.healthnet.com/portal/member/content.do?mainResourceFile=/content/general/unprotected/html/ca/plans/medicare/ca_medicare_plan_desc_main.html</a></p> </strong> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64056 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64056 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I have no idea which plan the doctor is contracted to. But the folowing is from the Health Net webpage..</p> <strong><font size="6"> <p>Medicare Supplement Plan </p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <strong><font size="5"> <p><font size="2">The health care you want . . . The choice you deserve</font></p> </font> <p><font size="2">It's your choice. With Health Net's Medicare Supplement Plan, you can see <font color="#ff0000">any doctor</font> who accepts Medicare, including specialists, at any time. No referrals or authorizations needed. You'll get peace of mind from <font color="#ff0000">seeing the doctor of your choice</font>, and savings from a plan that helps pay for Medicare deductibles, coinsurance and more.</font></p> </strong></font> <p><a href="https://www.healthnet.com/portal/member/content.do?mainResourceFile=/content/general/unprotected/html/ca/plans/medicare/ca_medicare_plan_desc_main.html">https://www.healthnet.com/portal/member/content.do?mainResourceFile=/content/general/unprotected/html/ca/plans/medicare/ca_medicare_plan_desc_main.html</a></p> </strong> Here's a key snip from the physiciansnews link Jason provided above in italics.<br /> <br /> <em><font size="2">...the physician should make sure that the patient understands the treatment is limited to a certain illness or injury or to a certain specified time and place and that another health care practitioner will be responsible for follow-up care. </font><font size="2"> </font></em> <p align="justify"><strong><em><font size="2">In no case should the reason given to the patient for the denial of care be a pretext for discrimination.</font></em></strong></p> <strong>{snip}</strong><br /> <br /> <em><font size="2">A physician&rsquo;s withdrawal from the relationship should not be attempted or accomplished during a time when the patient is in need of medical attention.<br /> <br /> </font><font size="2">In every other instance, prior to withdrawal from or termination of the relationship, the physician should explain to the patient the reason why the physician is unable to attend to the patient&rsquo;s needs and assist in the patient&rsquo;s transfer to a competent substitute. Written documentation of the physician&rsquo;s notification to the patient and of the referral sources or providers recommended to the patient will demonstrate that the physician has satisfied the conditions for proper withdrawal. Just as the physician must exercise reasonable care and skill in treating the patient, the physician must exercise reasonable care and skill in discontinuing the physician/patient relationship.</font></em><br /> <br /> ___________________<br /> <br /> If this doctor had any ethics whatsoever, he would have treated the child and explained to the tattooed non-patient mother that she should go to another doctor for a follow up appointment in a respectful manner. Unfortunately for him, he's now the lauging stock of bakersfield. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64059 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64059 Here's a key snip from the physiciansnews link Jason provided above in italics.<br /> <br /> <em><font size="2">...the physician should make sure that the patient understands the treatment is limited to a certain illness or injury or to a certain specified time and place and that another health care practitioner will be responsible for follow-up care. </font><font size="2"> </font></em> <p align="justify"><strong><em><font size="2">In no case should the reason given to the patient for the denial of care be a pretext for discrimination.</font></em></strong></p> <strong>{snip}</strong><br /> <br /> <em><font size="2">A physician&rsquo;s withdrawal from the relationship should not be attempted or accomplished during a time when the patient is in need of medical attention.<br /> <br /> </font><font size="2">In every other instance, prior to withdrawal from or termination of the relationship, the physician should explain to the patient the reason why the physician is unable to attend to the patient&rsquo;s needs and assist in the patient&rsquo;s transfer to a competent substitute. Written documentation of the physician&rsquo;s notification to the patient and of the referral sources or providers recommended to the patient will demonstrate that the physician has satisfied the conditions for proper withdrawal. Just as the physician must exercise reasonable care and skill in treating the patient, the physician must exercise reasonable care and skill in discontinuing the physician/patient relationship.</font></em><br /> <br /> ___________________<br /> <br /> If this doctor had any ethics whatsoever, he would have treated the child and explained to the tattooed non-patient mother that she should go to another doctor for a follow up appointment in a respectful manner. Unfortunately for him, he's now the lauging stock of bakersfield. <p>Annoy says:</p> <p>It's impossible to argue these issues</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>TK says:</p> <p>The impossible to argue against type arguments. Are exactly the type of arguments I enjoy bring forth..</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><a href="javascript:add_smilie(&quot;:hug:&quot;,&quot;smid_180&quot;)"><img id="smid_180" alt="hug.gif" src="http://untothebreach.net/style_emoticons/default/hug.gif" valign="absmiddle" /></a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64060 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64060 <p>Annoy says:</p> <p>It's impossible to argue these issues</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>TK says:</p> <p>The impossible to argue against type arguments. Are exactly the type of arguments I enjoy bring forth..</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><a href="javascript:add_smilie(&quot;:hug:&quot;,&quot;smid_180&quot;)"><img id="smid_180" alt="hug.gif" src="http://untothebreach.net/style_emoticons/default/hug.gif" valign="absmiddle" /></a></p> Does anyone really think this doctor told Health Net he would refuse their clients based on their looks? I wonder how much Health Net likes all this attention. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64066 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64066 Does anyone really think this doctor told Health Net he would refuse their clients based on their looks? I wonder how much Health Net likes all this attention. Has anyone actually gotten the doctor's side of this or is everyone just jumping to conclusions based on what the complaintant said? http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64129 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64129 Has anyone actually gotten the doctor's side of this or is everyone just jumping to conclusions based on what the complaintant said? <font size="2"> <p>I am sure the doctor could respond on this blog, to the paper or to KGET. I know he is welcome to respond to my blog that appears on this site..</p> <p>It would seem unlikely that he is not aware of the reporting on this subject.</p> </font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64130 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64130 <font size="2"> <p>I am sure the doctor could respond on this blog, to the paper or to KGET. I know he is welcome to respond to my blog that appears on this site..</p> <p>It would seem unlikely that he is not aware of the reporting on this subject.</p> </font> <p>Randomfactor said:&nbsp; <em>And likewise he has a &quot;right&quot; not to treat Jews, or blacks, or (what is the approved Conservative term?&nbsp; Oh yeah:) faggots, too.</em></p> <p>Tattooed people are not a &quot;protected class&quot;,&nbsp;under the law.&nbsp; Rest assured he has no right to deny services to &quot;Jews or&nbsp;blacks,&quot; as they are protected by&nbsp;civil rights laws. &nbsp; He does, however, have a right to deny services to &quot;fa-----,&quot; as they still are not a protected class. (He can also refuse to rent to them sell to them, etc.)</p> <p>Anybody in town when Burlington Homes refused to sell houses to lawyers - and WON! in court?&nbsp; You have to be in a protected class of people in order to claim a right to service...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64133 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64133 <p>Randomfactor said:&nbsp; <em>And likewise he has a &quot;right&quot; not to treat Jews, or blacks, or (what is the approved Conservative term?&nbsp; Oh yeah:) faggots, too.</em></p> <p>Tattooed people are not a &quot;protected class&quot;,&nbsp;under the law.&nbsp; Rest assured he has no right to deny services to &quot;Jews or&nbsp;blacks,&quot; as they are protected by&nbsp;civil rights laws. &nbsp; He does, however, have a right to deny services to &quot;fa-----,&quot; as they still are not a protected class. (He can also refuse to rent to them sell to them, etc.)</p> <p>Anybody in town when Burlington Homes refused to sell houses to lawyers - and WON! in court?&nbsp; You have to be in a protected class of people in order to claim a right to service...</p> <p>Two questions   </p> <p>1.  Was the child a patient of this doctor or was it a first visit?</p> <p>2.  So you believe that when you become a doctor you give up your rights?</p> <p> </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64134 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64134 <p>Two questions   </p> <p>1.  Was the child a patient of this doctor or was it a first visit?</p> <p>2.  So you believe that when you become a doctor you give up your rights?</p> <p> </p> Is a &quot;honkey&quot; a protected class? If not, what about a gay honkey? http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64136 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64136 Is a &quot;honkey&quot; a protected class? If not, what about a gay honkey? Just watch! The good doctor or the women who's baby&nbsp; he refused to treat will be on the Today show or someother talk show!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Yeah Bakersfield! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64137 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64137 Just watch! The good doctor or the women who's baby&nbsp; he refused to treat will be on the Today show or someother talk show!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Yeah Bakersfield! <font size="2"><font size="2"> <p>1. It has been my experience that Health Net assigns a doctor to you. And it is the patients right to request the care of another doctor. </p> <p>2. I do believe you can enter into a contract that may require you to do things that you would not do in your normal day to day life. Or things that you would otherwise have the lawful right to refuse to do.</p> <p>3. Health Net represents their insured during negotiations with providers.. And must not enter into any contract that would harm their insured.</p> <p>4. Do radiologists have the right to turn away those that are tattooed? Hospitals? </p> <p>Under law. Most likely. </p> <p>But I would be surprised if they could be turned away under the terms of their contract with the insurance company.</p> </font></font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64139 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64139 <font size="2"><font size="2"> <p>1. It has been my experience that Health Net assigns a doctor to you. And it is the patients right to request the care of another doctor. </p> <p>2. I do believe you can enter into a contract that may require you to do things that you would not do in your normal day to day life. Or things that you would otherwise have the lawful right to refuse to do.</p> <p>3. Health Net represents their insured during negotiations with providers.. And must not enter into any contract that would harm their insured.</p> <p>4. Do radiologists have the right to turn away those that are tattooed? Hospitals? </p> <p>Under law. Most likely. </p> <p>But I would be surprised if they could be turned away under the terms of their contract with the insurance company.</p> </font></font> When I signed up for Healthnet I had to designate a primary care physician whether I knew one or not.&nbsp; I could change later but I made the choice who to see.&nbsp; Of course that hinged on whethe or not that doctor was taking new patients too.&nbsp; I was NEVER assigned a doctor by any HMO or Health Care org.&nbsp; I had to choose from a list of providers but it was my choice.&nbsp; That of course hinges on whether or not the doctor accepted me.&nbsp; Which they always did.&nbsp; But then I wasn't all tatted up either. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64141 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64141 When I signed up for Healthnet I had to designate a primary care physician whether I knew one or not.&nbsp; I could change later but I made the choice who to see.&nbsp; Of course that hinged on whethe or not that doctor was taking new patients too.&nbsp; I was NEVER assigned a doctor by any HMO or Health Care org.&nbsp; I had to choose from a list of providers but it was my choice.&nbsp; That of course hinges on whether or not the doctor accepted me.&nbsp; Which they always did.&nbsp; But then I wasn't all tatted up either. By the way...being the butt of a national joke isn't the worst that can happen to us.&nbsp; The worse people think it is, the fewer will want to come here and clog up our city.&nbsp; Hopefully. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64143 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64143 By the way...being the butt of a national joke isn't the worst that can happen to us.&nbsp; The worse people think it is, the fewer will want to come here and clog up our city.&nbsp; Hopefully. <p>Nancy II, I keep hoping bad press will keep people away, but it seems to have the opposite effect.&nbsp; It&nbsp;encourages arrogant Southern Californians (re: not us) to come here on the belief they will find success easier, competing against such a handicapped crowd.&nbsp; If I had a nickel for every conversation that began, &quot;Back in L.A. we...&quot; I would actually be able to afford a home there.</p> <p>Anon:&nbsp; Honkey - No.&nbsp; Gay honkey - Sorry, you're out of luck.&nbsp; Except in Massachusets.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64147 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64147 <p>Nancy II, I keep hoping bad press will keep people away, but it seems to have the opposite effect.&nbsp; It&nbsp;encourages arrogant Southern Californians (re: not us) to come here on the belief they will find success easier, competing against such a handicapped crowd.&nbsp; If I had a nickel for every conversation that began, &quot;Back in L.A. we...&quot; I would actually be able to afford a home there.</p> <p>Anon:&nbsp; Honkey - No.&nbsp; Gay honkey - Sorry, you're out of luck.&nbsp; Except in Massachusets.</p> <p>Nancy</p> <p>After the split-up between Gem care and Health net. I was assigned a doctor from BFMC... Of course I could request someone else.</p> <p>Prior to that, I had chosen a provider. Only to find that I would be sublet to another doctor within that providers office. Had the same type of experience with Secure horizons.</p> <font size="2"> <p>Not complaining. Just the facts of my care.</p> </font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64149 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64149 <p>Nancy</p> <p>After the split-up between Gem care and Health net. I was assigned a doctor from BFMC... Of course I could request someone else.</p> <p>Prior to that, I had chosen a provider. Only to find that I would be sublet to another doctor within that providers office. Had the same type of experience with Secure horizons.</p> <font size="2"> <p>Not complaining. Just the facts of my care.</p> </font> <p>I saw the arrogance of the LA people back in the early 70's when Tehachapi first started to become a bedroom communtiy for the illustrious folks in the LA basin.&nbsp; I was working in, what was then, my MIL's Wards catalog store and they would come in, order, then complain about having to pay shipping.&nbsp; They would whine that they could get it cheaper in Los Angeles and I had to bite my tongue to keep from saying..&quot;then go to Los Angeles and buy it.&quot;&nbsp; But..trying to be the good retail person I would remind them that by the time they spent the money on gas and their time, it was actually cheaper to buy through the catalog.&nbsp; Or locally OR NOT ALL ALL JUST GO HOME!&nbsp; Oh..sorry..I lost my cool for a moment.</p> <p>After they bought property up there they started to complain every time new people came in.&nbsp; My feeling was that they wanted to move there then shut the gate so no one else could.</p> <p>I know it's not a popular theme on here but I still say if you want all the high falutin' restaurants and theaters and museums, and clothing stores, then&nbsp;hike your happy a.. ...uh..fanny&nbsp;to the Southland.&nbsp; Along with all the traffic and even worse smog.&nbsp; I'll shop at K-Mart, go to the dollar theater, eat at the Pantry, and be as happy as a dead pig in the sunshine.&nbsp; Redneck that I am.</p> <p>Oh..I lost my train of thought.&nbsp; Dang thing jumped the tracks again.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64153 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64153 <p>I saw the arrogance of the LA people back in the early 70's when Tehachapi first started to become a bedroom communtiy for the illustrious folks in the LA basin.&nbsp; I was working in, what was then, my MIL's Wards catalog store and they would come in, order, then complain about having to pay shipping.&nbsp; They would whine that they could get it cheaper in Los Angeles and I had to bite my tongue to keep from saying..&quot;then go to Los Angeles and buy it.&quot;&nbsp; But..trying to be the good retail person I would remind them that by the time they spent the money on gas and their time, it was actually cheaper to buy through the catalog.&nbsp; Or locally OR NOT ALL ALL JUST GO HOME!&nbsp; Oh..sorry..I lost my cool for a moment.</p> <p>After they bought property up there they started to complain every time new people came in.&nbsp; My feeling was that they wanted to move there then shut the gate so no one else could.</p> <p>I know it's not a popular theme on here but I still say if you want all the high falutin' restaurants and theaters and museums, and clothing stores, then&nbsp;hike your happy a.. ...uh..fanny&nbsp;to the Southland.&nbsp; Along with all the traffic and even worse smog.&nbsp; I'll shop at K-Mart, go to the dollar theater, eat at the Pantry, and be as happy as a dead pig in the sunshine.&nbsp; Redneck that I am.</p> <p>Oh..I lost my train of thought.&nbsp; Dang thing jumped the tracks again.</p> Speaking of local TV.&nbsp; Has anyone heard about Rusty Shoop having brain surgery?&nbsp; Apparently he had a brain aneurysm.&nbsp; He was just interviewed on TV. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64156 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64156 Speaking of local TV.&nbsp; Has anyone heard about Rusty Shoop having brain surgery?&nbsp; Apparently he had a brain aneurysm.&nbsp; He was just interviewed on TV. <p>It&rsquo;s dem dead pigs in the sunshine that keeps attracting da flies..</p> <p><a href="javascript:add_smilie(&quot;:big bubblebath:&quot;,&quot;smid_1&quot;)"><img id="smid_1" alt="bigemo_harabe_net-125.gif" src="http://untothebreach.net/style_emoticons/default/bigemo_harabe_net-125.gif" valign="absmiddle" /></a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64158 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64158 <p>It&rsquo;s dem dead pigs in the sunshine that keeps attracting da flies..</p> <p><a href="javascript:add_smilie(&quot;:big bubblebath:&quot;,&quot;smid_1&quot;)"><img id="smid_1" alt="bigemo_harabe_net-125.gif" src="http://untothebreach.net/style_emoticons/default/bigemo_harabe_net-125.gif" valign="absmiddle" /></a></p> Nancy, the news reagrding Rusty Shoop is OLD news. That came out a while ago... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64159 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64159 Nancy, the news reagrding Rusty Shoop is OLD news. That came out a while ago... <p>Anny..soooo sorry I mentioned old news.&nbsp; It was new to me.&nbsp; By the way..I wasn't telling the&nbsp;news ..I was asking a question.&nbsp; Be easy on me since I rarely watch that station.&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; I've always liked Rusty from waaaaaay back in his weather days on Station X.&nbsp; Actually, that's the one I still watch.</p> <p>Tkozy..so that's what's attracting the flies..I thought it was acause I ran out of deoderant.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64163 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64163 <p>Anny..soooo sorry I mentioned old news.&nbsp; It was new to me.&nbsp; By the way..I wasn't telling the&nbsp;news ..I was asking a question.&nbsp; Be easy on me since I rarely watch that station.&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; I've always liked Rusty from waaaaaay back in his weather days on Station X.&nbsp; Actually, that's the one I still watch.</p> <p>Tkozy..so that's what's attracting the flies..I thought it was acause I ran out of deoderant.</p> Maybe he found out about his daughter's past? Sorry, bad joke and hope he's okay, but wow, I hope she cleaned up her act. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64173 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64173 Maybe he found out about his daughter's past? Sorry, bad joke and hope he's okay, but wow, I hope she cleaned up her act. Colbert PWNS Bakersfield http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64250 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64250 Colbert PWNS Bakersfield <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>What does PWNS mean.</p> <p>JDBLIMEGREEN wrote:<br /> <br /> </p> <blockquote> <p><hr /> </p> <p>KING_OF_HYRULE123 wrote:</p> <p><br /> typo of OWNS.</p> <p><br /> it came from a MMORPG; when you got defeated it accidentaly said </p> <p>&quot;You've been pwned.&quot;<br /> <br /> it became history from there! <img height="16" alt="" width="16" border="0" src="http://forums.nintendo.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif" /> :S</p> </blockquote> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64253 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64253 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>What does PWNS mean.</p> <p>JDBLIMEGREEN wrote:<br /> <br /> </p> <blockquote> <p><hr /> </p> <p>KING_OF_HYRULE123 wrote:</p> <p><br /> typo of OWNS.</p> <p><br /> it came from a MMORPG; when you got defeated it accidentaly said </p> <p>&quot;You've been pwned.&quot;<br /> <br /> it became history from there! <img height="16" alt="" width="16" border="0" src="http://forums.nintendo.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif" /> :S</p> </blockquote> Tkozy, it's an example of l33tspeak (leetspeek), slang for &quot;elite speak&quot;.&nbsp; From wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet<br /> <br /> Leet can be defined as the <a title="wikt:perturbation" class="extiw" href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/perturbation">perturbation</a> or modification of written text. For example, the term <em>leet</em> itself is often written <em>l33t</em>, or <em>1337</em>, and many other variations.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet#_note-0">[1]</a></sup> Such perturbations are frequently referred to as &ldquo;Leetspeak&rdquo;. In addition to modification of standard language, new <a title="Colloquialism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloquialism">colloquialisms</a> have been added to the <a title="Parlance" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parlance">parlance</a>. It is also important to note that Leet itself is not solely based upon one language or character set. <a title="Greek language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language">Greek</a>, <a title="Russian language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language">Russian</a>, <a title="Chinese language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language">Chinese</a>, and other languages have been subjected to the Leet variety. As such, while it may be referred to as a &ldquo;cipher,&rdquo; a &ldquo;dialect,&rdquo; or a &ldquo;language,&rdquo; Leet does not fit squarely into any of these categories. This article primarily concerns the <a title="English language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language">English language</a> variant of Leet.<br /> <br /> pwn means to dominate. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64257 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64257 Tkozy, it's an example of l33tspeak (leetspeek), slang for &quot;elite speak&quot;.&nbsp; From wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet<br /> <br /> Leet can be defined as the <a title="wikt:perturbation" class="extiw" href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/perturbation">perturbation</a> or modification of written text. For example, the term <em>leet</em> itself is often written <em>l33t</em>, or <em>1337</em>, and many other variations.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet#_note-0">[1]</a></sup> Such perturbations are frequently referred to as &ldquo;Leetspeak&rdquo;. In addition to modification of standard language, new <a title="Colloquialism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloquialism">colloquialisms</a> have been added to the <a title="Parlance" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parlance">parlance</a>. It is also important to note that Leet itself is not solely based upon one language or character set. <a title="Greek language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language">Greek</a>, <a title="Russian language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language">Russian</a>, <a title="Chinese language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language">Chinese</a>, and other languages have been subjected to the Leet variety. As such, while it may be referred to as a &ldquo;cipher,&rdquo; a &ldquo;dialect,&rdquo; or a &ldquo;language,&rdquo; Leet does not fit squarely into any of these categories. This article primarily concerns the <a title="English language" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language">English language</a> variant of Leet.<br /> <br /> pwn means to dominate. <p>Leet translator</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><u><font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html">http://www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html</a></font></u><a href="http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/leet.php"></a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64261 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64261 <p>Leet translator</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><u><font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html">http://www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html</a></font></u><a href="http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/leet.php"></a></p> <p>&quot;In this case, Colbert showed portions of a KGET report about a Christian doctor who has rules for who he will and won't serve based on his religious beliefs. The doctor refused to see a young child because her mother has tattoos and piercings, forbidden in Leviticus 19:28.<br /> <br /> Colbert used this story for his feature &quot;The Word,&quot; getting another laugh for the term &quot;WWJD&quot; - What Would Jesus Dispense. A funny line: &quot;Say Ahhmen.&quot; The piece was hilarious. But I laughed more for the jokes about the Hippocratic Oath than the punchlines containing &quot;Bakersfield.&quot; Watch it for yourself! &quot;</p> <p>This wack job dr should lose his liscense to pratice.</p> <p>I have a tattoo on my back, most people never see it. Also I am gay and married...so is he going to refuse service to me? that is not his job!!! Would I go to him no! would I recommend that he lose his license....YES I WOULD!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64264 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64264 <p>&quot;In this case, Colbert showed portions of a KGET report about a Christian doctor who has rules for who he will and won't serve based on his religious beliefs. The doctor refused to see a young child because her mother has tattoos and piercings, forbidden in Leviticus 19:28.<br /> <br /> Colbert used this story for his feature &quot;The Word,&quot; getting another laugh for the term &quot;WWJD&quot; - What Would Jesus Dispense. A funny line: &quot;Say Ahhmen.&quot; The piece was hilarious. But I laughed more for the jokes about the Hippocratic Oath than the punchlines containing &quot;Bakersfield.&quot; Watch it for yourself! &quot;</p> <p>This wack job dr should lose his liscense to pratice.</p> <p>I have a tattoo on my back, most people never see it. Also I am gay and married...so is he going to refuse service to me? that is not his job!!! Would I go to him no! would I recommend that he lose his license....YES I WOULD!</p> Nice TK.&nbsp; Pretty basic though.&nbsp; It didn't recognize words like owned and newbie (should be translated to pwnd and n00b)&nbsp; It's just a letter to letter cipher. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64266 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64266 Nice TK.&nbsp; Pretty basic though.&nbsp; It didn't recognize words like owned and newbie (should be translated to pwnd and n00b)&nbsp; It's just a letter to letter cipher. I 4m WI7 jOo. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64267 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64267 I 4m WI7 jOo. <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>70m</p> <p>1 r3P0573D 4 N3W 4nD 83773r 7r4n5L470R.</p> <p>Tom</p> <p>I reposted a new and better translator.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64269 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64269 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>70m</p> <p>1 r3P0573D 4 N3W 4nD 83773r 7r4n5L470R.</p> <p>Tom</p> <p>I reposted a new and better translator.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Colbert is the R0x0r.&nbsp; and the Dr. is the sux0r http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64271 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64271 Colbert is the R0x0r.&nbsp; and the Dr. is the sux0r w/e BK=n00bzr t3h CB m4n R l337 h4x0rs..... CB nat10n FTW http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64273 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64273 w/e BK=n00bzr t3h CB m4n R l337 h4x0rs..... CB nat10n FTW <p>PWNS is not leet.</p> <p>Owns in leet would be owns</p> <p>0Wnz 1n l337 W0uLD B3 0WnZ</p> <p>What does PWNS mean.<br /> </p> <dir> <p>KING_OF_HYRULE123 wrote:</p> <p><br /> typo of OWNS.</p> <p><br /> it came from a MMORPG; when you got defeated it accidentaly said </p> </dir> <p>&quot;You've been pwned.&quot;<br /> <br /> it became history from there! <img height="16" src="http://people.bakersfield.com/3rdparty/editor/editor/Image49.gif" width="16" alt="" />:S</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64274 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64274 <p>PWNS is not leet.</p> <p>Owns in leet would be owns</p> <p>0Wnz 1n l337 W0uLD B3 0WnZ</p> <p>What does PWNS mean.<br /> </p> <dir> <p>KING_OF_HYRULE123 wrote:</p> <p><br /> typo of OWNS.</p> <p><br /> it came from a MMORPG; when you got defeated it accidentaly said </p> </dir> <p>&quot;You've been pwned.&quot;<br /> <br /> it became history from there! <img height="16" src="http://people.bakersfield.com/3rdparty/editor/editor/Image49.gif" width="16" alt="" />:S</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> That one is better, TK.&nbsp; Although<br /> 7|-|3 [,]|_|1(|&lt; |3|20//|| |=0&gt;&lt; ]|_|//|?5 0/3|2 7|-|3 |_42`/ [)09 still comes back as the <br /> [,]uick ierown foks ]umi?5 oveis the lazy [)og rather than <br /> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.<br /> <br /> It gets you into spitting distance though.&nbsp; Maybe this is the problem Gary Merrill has with the Bible.&nbsp; Someone gave him a l337sP33|&lt; version http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64275 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64275 That one is better, TK.&nbsp; Although<br /> 7|-|3 [,]|_|1(|&lt; |3|20//|| |=0&gt;&lt; ]|_|//|?5 0/3|2 7|-|3 |_42`/ [)09 still comes back as the <br /> [,]uick ierown foks ]umi?5 oveis the lazy [)og rather than <br /> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.<br /> <br /> It gets you into spitting distance though.&nbsp; Maybe this is the problem Gary Merrill has with the Bible.&nbsp; Someone gave him a l337sP33|&lt; version <p>So I hear you liek mudkip?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64276 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64276 <p>So I hear you liek mudkip?</p> <font size="2"> <p>Tom</p> <p>There are different LEET dialects.. Modified to retain secrecy within individual groups. Programs are available for the groups to manufacture their own dialects.</p> <p>L33T-English Translator</p> <p>Version v 1.3 Beta Build #0401</p> <p>10/27/2001</p> </font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64286 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64286 <font size="2"> <p>Tom</p> <p>There are different LEET dialects.. Modified to retain secrecy within individual groups. Programs are available for the groups to manufacture their own dialects.</p> <p>L33T-English Translator</p> <p>Version v 1.3 Beta Build #0401</p> <p>10/27/2001</p> </font> I do agree that there is a tolerance hypocracy when it comes to everyone but Christians a lot of times (this would be coming from the so-called &quot;Liberal side&quot; (which I'll probably elaborate on in a later blog).&nbsp; However, anyone else think it's more important to SAY what the bible says, or DO what Jesus says TO?&nbsp; Thats the problem there.&nbsp; Jesus was hanging out with the untouchables of society.&nbsp; Thats why he was also so influential.&nbsp; But now its about elitism.&nbsp; However, somebody mentioned earlier that he could refuse Jews, Blacks...etc, but thats the not case here.&nbsp; Its about presentation and not skin color or their personal religious beliefs (however, Christians will tend to gravitate toward a Christian doctor).&nbsp; You can be refused at a fancy restaurant for the same reasons.... not saying the situations are the same, or that he is right in doing it, but its not the same thing as racial discrimination. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64308 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64308 I do agree that there is a tolerance hypocracy when it comes to everyone but Christians a lot of times (this would be coming from the so-called &quot;Liberal side&quot; (which I'll probably elaborate on in a later blog).&nbsp; However, anyone else think it's more important to SAY what the bible says, or DO what Jesus says TO?&nbsp; Thats the problem there.&nbsp; Jesus was hanging out with the untouchables of society.&nbsp; Thats why he was also so influential.&nbsp; But now its about elitism.&nbsp; However, somebody mentioned earlier that he could refuse Jews, Blacks...etc, but thats the not case here.&nbsp; Its about presentation and not skin color or their personal religious beliefs (however, Christians will tend to gravitate toward a Christian doctor).&nbsp; You can be refused at a fancy restaurant for the same reasons.... not saying the situations are the same, or that he is right in doing it, but its not the same thing as racial discrimination. I agree, chasetastic.&nbsp; People who are tattooed or pierced are not a protected class.&nbsp; That said, the company that refers people to him should reconsider their policy.&nbsp; It's bad business to refer to someone who turns sick babies away. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64315 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64315 I agree, chasetastic.&nbsp; People who are tattooed or pierced are not a protected class.&nbsp; That said, the company that refers people to him should reconsider their policy.&nbsp; It's bad business to refer to someone who turns sick babies away. <strong>Chasetastic</strong>, don't forget that the Bible was used to <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl3.htm">justify slavery</a>, and afterward to <a href="http://cyclops686.blogspot.com/2006/10/14-characteristics-of-fascism-part-8.html">justify Jim Crow</a> laws. If you can discriminate against people with tattoos, that means you <u>can</u> do the same with skin color. Tattoos have no bearing on a person's need for medical care. As I've pointed out before, medical providers do not have the same &quot;right to refuse service&quot; that private businesses do. Doctors are not allowed to discriminate against patients. (Let alone punish a little girl for the perceived &quot;sins&quot; of her mother.) This is a slippery slope argument that you're making; nobody is saying that the doctor is discriminating against a person based on their race or religion (their skin color or color<em>ing</em>, perhaps), but allowing them to discriminate for <em>any</em> reason makes it acceptable for the to discriminate for <em><strong>every</strong></em> reason. (BTW, it was <strong>my</strong> argument that you read, in response to posts by Nancy.) This case has <u>nothing</u> to do with religious persecution <em>against</em> the doctor, so don't make this into something that it very clearly isn't. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64324 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64324 <strong>Chasetastic</strong>, don't forget that the Bible was used to <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl3.htm">justify slavery</a>, and afterward to <a href="http://cyclops686.blogspot.com/2006/10/14-characteristics-of-fascism-part-8.html">justify Jim Crow</a> laws. If you can discriminate against people with tattoos, that means you <u>can</u> do the same with skin color. Tattoos have no bearing on a person's need for medical care. As I've pointed out before, medical providers do not have the same &quot;right to refuse service&quot; that private businesses do. Doctors are not allowed to discriminate against patients. (Let alone punish a little girl for the perceived &quot;sins&quot; of her mother.) This is a slippery slope argument that you're making; nobody is saying that the doctor is discriminating against a person based on their race or religion (their skin color or color<em>ing</em>, perhaps), but allowing them to discriminate for <em>any</em> reason makes it acceptable for the to discriminate for <em><strong>every</strong></em> reason. (BTW, it was <strong>my</strong> argument that you read, in response to posts by Nancy.) This case has <u>nothing</u> to do with religious persecution <em>against</em> the doctor, so don't make this into something that it very clearly isn't. <p>I rather doubt this doctor is even a christian, since Christ would not be doing what this so called doctor is doing.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64390 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64390 <p>I rather doubt this doctor is even a christian, since Christ would not be doing what this so called doctor is doing.</p> Christ (reportedly) even healed the gay, and praised one while doing it.&nbsp; If Christ were to reappear as a doctor today, he'd run an AIDS clinic.&nbsp; And he wouldn't flinch at tattoos. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64398 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64398 Christ (reportedly) even healed the gay, and praised one while doing it.&nbsp; If Christ were to reappear as a doctor today, he'd run an AIDS clinic.&nbsp; And he wouldn't flinch at tattoos. There were gays 2000 years ago? You'll probably say there were gay priests before 1960. Pax won't like that. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64403 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64403 There were gays 2000 years ago? You'll probably say there were gay priests before 1960. Pax won't like that. Colbert Pwns Christians http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64407 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64407 Colbert Pwns Christians <p>Colbert's best piece *EVER* was when he had the guy on who sponsored a bill to mandate posting the Ten Commandments in public buildings.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Then he asked the guy to *LIST* the Ten Commandments.&nbsp; Of course he couldn't.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64421 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64421 <p>Colbert's best piece *EVER* was when he had the guy on who sponsored a bill to mandate posting the Ten Commandments in public buildings.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Then he asked the guy to *LIST* the Ten Commandments.&nbsp; Of course he couldn't.</p> I remember that. He got about 2 or 3 and answered even those few with a question mark? like he wasn't even sure. It was sooooooo funny. The best part was right after he asked him to name them the guy asks "All of them?"<br /> <br /> I guess now we know why he wants them posted. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64422 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64422 I remember that. He got about 2 or 3 and answered even those few with a question mark? like he wasn't even sure. It was sooooooo funny. The best part was right after he asked him to name them the guy asks "All of them?"<br /> <br /> I guess now we know why he wants them posted. Let's give praise where it is due -- Colbert, that was a brilliantly funny report.<br /> Enjoyed every word of it.<br /> <br /> On the bigger issue, a doctor who proclaims to follow Jesus may be interested to know Jesus went out of his way to meet all types of people, including the worst of the sinners, so he could minister to them all. <br /> <br /> Also, can we conclude that Colbert did an exhaustive study before he proclaimed Jim Scott is the best anchor in Greater Bakersfield? http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64569 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64569 Let's give praise where it is due -- Colbert, that was a brilliantly funny report.<br /> Enjoyed every word of it.<br /> <br /> On the bigger issue, a doctor who proclaims to follow Jesus may be interested to know Jesus went out of his way to meet all types of people, including the worst of the sinners, so he could minister to them all. <br /> <br /> Also, can we conclude that Colbert did an exhaustive study before he proclaimed Jim Scott is the best anchor in Greater Bakersfield? <font size="2"> <p>Steve says:</p> </font> <p>proclaimed Jim Scott</p> <font size="2"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>TK says:</p> <p>No one asked me. That makes Colbert&rsquo;s dedication to trueyness, suspect in my book&hellip;</p> </font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64574 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64574 <font size="2"> <p>Steve says:</p> </font> <p>proclaimed Jim Scott</p> <font size="2"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>TK says:</p> <p>No one asked me. That makes Colbert&rsquo;s dedication to trueyness, suspect in my book&hellip;</p> </font> And here's my attempt at getting 86ed using 1337 5p34k ....<br /> <br /> 1f u c4n r34d th15 u r3411y n33d 2 g37 l41d http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64894 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64894 And here's my attempt at getting 86ed using 1337 5p34k ....<br /> <br /> 1f u c4n r34d th15 u r3411y n33d 2 g37 l41d 5w337, ki6. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64953 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_64953 5w337, ki6. <p>The whole spin is on a Christian doctor refusing to see a patient because she had tatoos. Other than the spin from the media I have seen no proof that this is the reason the doctor refused service. The doctor refused service because these people violates the policies he had set forth in his own practice. He does not relinquish all rights to choice when he becomes a doctor. </p> <p>It is amusing how people can become so consumed with an issue without all of the facts. It is alarming how many arrogant people are these days. Further it is alarming how many people use freedom of speech to justify blatant bad behavior. The freedoms we all enjoy come with responsibility. I think most people overlook that part of the equation.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_65639 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_65639 <p>The whole spin is on a Christian doctor refusing to see a patient because she had tatoos. Other than the spin from the media I have seen no proof that this is the reason the doctor refused service. The doctor refused service because these people violates the policies he had set forth in his own practice. He does not relinquish all rights to choice when he becomes a doctor. </p> <p>It is amusing how people can become so consumed with an issue without all of the facts. It is alarming how many arrogant people are these days. Further it is alarming how many people use freedom of speech to justify blatant bad behavior. The freedoms we all enjoy come with responsibility. I think most people overlook that part of the equation.</p> <p>You are right, Chris.&nbsp; If you read the original article, the Doctor says that the mother's tattoos&nbsp;and piercing are the reason&nbsp;he refused to help the child.&nbsp; The child had no tattoos.</p> <p>I was going to make a joke about people becoming consumed with an issue without all the facts, but I'm sure you just&nbsp;misspoke.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_65642 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_65642 <p>You are right, Chris.&nbsp; If you read the original article, the Doctor says that the mother's tattoos&nbsp;and piercing are the reason&nbsp;he refused to help the child.&nbsp; The child had no tattoos.</p> <p>I was going to make a joke about people becoming consumed with an issue without all the facts, but I'm sure you just&nbsp;misspoke.</p> <font size="2"> <p>Bonus says:</p> </font> <p>He does not relinquish all rights to choice when he becomes a doctor. </p> <font size="2"> <p>TK says:</p> <p>He does voluntarily relinquish some rights, when he signs a contract for monetary reimbursement from MY insurance company, who has a fiduciary responsibility to negotiate contracts that will not cause harm to me. </p> <p>What you fail to recognize, is that the only absolute rights in business. Is the right to form a business that abides by contracts and regulation. Or the right to not form a business.</p> <p>This doctor does not expect the same morality when it applies to his bankers as he does from his patients.. </p> <p>His stated goals are impossible to achieve in a normal business environment. So he chooses to enforce his morality on those who are least capable of defending themselves </p> <p>The Doctor is not pure. In fact there is the appearance of hypocrisy in my view. </p> <p>Hypocrisy or criminality. Neither are acceptable standards of morality.</p> </font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_65671 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/faithforum/6355/#c_65671 <font size="2"> <p>Bonus says:</p> </font> <p>He does not relinquish all rights to choice when he becomes a doctor. </p> <font size="2"> <p>TK says:</p> <p>He does voluntarily relinquish some rights, when he signs a contract for monetary reimbursement from MY insurance company, who has a fiduciary responsibility to negotiate contracts that will not cause harm to me. </p> <p>What you fail to recognize, is that the only absolute rights in business. Is the right to form a business that abides by contracts and regulation. Or the right to not form a business.</p> <p>This doctor does not expect the same morality when it applies to his bankers as he does from his patients.. </p> <p>His stated goals are impossible to achieve in a normal business environment. So he chooses to enforce his morality on those who are least capable of defending themselves </p> <p>The Doctor is not pure. In fact there is the appearance of hypocrisy in my view. </p> <p>Hypocrisy or criminality. Neither are acceptable standards of morality.</p> </font>