http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751 Interesting tidbit of election news: Staff and wire reports Bakersfield carrot farmer William Bolthouse donated $100,000 to an initiative aiming to fight gay marriage &mdash; a measure&nbsp; that will appear on the Nov. 4 ballot along with the presidential race. The initiative qualified for the ballot Monday, less than a month after the state Supreme Court overturned a ban on gay marriage. June 17 marks the date when California counties will be permitted to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The National Organization for Marriage California donated $700,000 to the campaign. One of the organization&rsquo;s largest financial contributors includes Bolthouse, who declined to comment about his donation Tuesday. The measure&rsquo;s proponents said the campaign to promote the initiative may exceed $30 million. Supporters have spent about $1.8 million to collect signatures and publicize the initiative, according to campaign filings. Other supporters include San Diego developer Terry Caster ($172,000); hotel developer Manchester Financial Group of San Diego ($125,000); Fieldstead and Co. of Irvine ($400,000) and Knights of Columbus Headquarters in Connecticut ($250,000). Kevin Yamamura of McClatchy Newspapers and staff writer Angelle Barbazon contributed to this report. Interesting tidbit of election news: Staff and wire reports Bakersfield carrot farmer William Bolthouse donated $100,000 to an initiative aiming to fight gay marriage &mdash; a measure&nbsp; that will appear on the Nov. 4 ballot along with the presidential race. The initiative qualified for the ballot Monday, less than a month after the state Supreme Court overturned a ban on gay marriage. June 17 marks the date when California counties will be permitted to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The National Organization for Marriage California donated $700,000 to the campaign. One of the organization&rsquo;s largest financial contributors includes Bolthouse, who declined to comment about his donation Tuesday. The measure&rsquo;s proponents said the campaign to promote the initiative may exceed $30 million. Supporters have spent about $1.8 million to collect signatures and publicize the initiative, according to campaign filings. Other supporters include San Diego developer Terry Caster ($172,000); hotel developer Manchester Financial Group of San Diego ($125,000); Fieldstead and Co. of Irvine ($400,000) and Knights of Columbus Headquarters in Connecticut ($250,000). Kevin Yamamura of McClatchy Newspapers and staff writer Angelle Barbazon contributed to this report. en-us Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:11:55 PDT <p>The fall of the Roman Empire was caused by&nbsp;carrot farmers.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248801 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248801 <p>The fall of the Roman Empire was caused by&nbsp;carrot farmers.</p> <p>THREE CHEERS FOR BOLTHOUSE!!!!!  </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248812 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248812 <p>THREE CHEERS FOR BOLTHOUSE!!!!!  </p> <p>Radicals, every one of them.</p> <p>.</p> <p>OK, I don't need to buy any more carrots.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248824 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248824 <p>Radicals, every one of them.</p> <p>.</p> <p>OK, I don't need to buy any more carrots.</p> <p>Go ahead, boycott away.  We love carrots and my horse can eat all you don't.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248854 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248854 <p>Go ahead, boycott away.  We love carrots and my horse can eat all you don't.</p> <p>now heres a few of you a lesson..just because an issue is being rammed down peoples throats by a few people on a blog..doesnt mean its going to be a fact in the real world..</p> <p>Ahhhh yummmm...Carrot Cake anyone??</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248860 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248860 <p>now heres a few of you a lesson..just because an issue is being rammed down peoples throats by a few people on a blog..doesnt mean its going to be a fact in the real world..</p> <p>Ahhhh yummmm...Carrot Cake anyone??</p> <p>There would be no chance of winning for boycotters....They're going against rabbits, horses, carrot cake makers, carrot juice squeezers, and carrot lovers like me. Sorry but for those who are happy with the&nbsp;new proposal regarding&nbsp;gay marriage...this is bad news....</p> <p>mmmm, who thought something so orange could be so gooood&nbsp; :D</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248861 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248861 <p>There would be no chance of winning for boycotters....They're going against rabbits, horses, carrot cake makers, carrot juice squeezers, and carrot lovers like me. Sorry but for those who are happy with the&nbsp;new proposal regarding&nbsp;gay marriage...this is bad news....</p> <p>mmmm, who thought something so orange could be so gooood&nbsp; :D</p> <p>Chinese-made synthetic carrots will soon flood the U.S. produce market, and before long&nbsp;Bolthouse will be so broke that he can't pay attention...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248872 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248872 <p>Chinese-made synthetic carrots will soon flood the U.S. produce market, and before long&nbsp;Bolthouse will be so broke that he can't pay attention...</p> <p>Good on him.&nbsp; I don't agree, but he's putting his money where his mouth is.</p> <p>Also, I'm glad he's spending his money someplace where it won't make a difference rather than on close elections.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248898 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248898 <p>Good on him.&nbsp; I don't agree, but he's putting his money where his mouth is.</p> <p>Also, I'm glad he's spending his money someplace where it won't make a difference rather than on close elections.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Wouldn't the $100,000 be better spent improving the sanitation at Bolthouse Farms?  Anyone remember the FDA press release from a couple of years ago?   For those who don't, here it is:</p> <p>FDA Warns Consumers Not To Drink Bolthouse Farms Carrot Juice Due to Botulism Concerns<!-- #EndEditable --><!-- #BeginEditable "Body of Text" --></p> <p>In response to a fourth case of botulism being linked to Bolthouse Farms, Bakersfield, California brand carrot juice, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is warning consumers not to drink Bolthouse Farms Carrot Juice, 450 ml and 1 liter plastic bottles, with "BEST IF USED BY" dates of NOV 11 2006 or earlier.  Consumers should discard this product. FDA is also reiterating its advice to consumers to keep carrot juice — including pasteurized carrot juice — refrigerated.</p> <p>The fourth case of botulism poisoning involves an adult female in Florida who is currently suffering from paralysis. To date, one link between the illness and the consumers appears to be that the juice they drank was not properly refrigerated once it was in the home, which allowed the <em>Clostridium botulinum</em> spores to grow and produce toxin.  FDA is investigating other possible links.</p> <p><em>Clostridium botulinum</em> is a bacterium commonly found in soil.  Under certain conditions these bacteria can produce a toxin that if ingested can result in botulism, a disease that may cause paralysis or death.  Cases of botulism from processed food are extremely rare in the U.S.</p> <p>Symptoms of botulism can include: double-vision, droopy eyelids, altered voice, trouble with speaking or swallowing, and paralysis on both sides of the body that progresses from the neck down, possibly followed by difficulty in breathing. Anyone experiencing these symptoms should seek immediate medical attention.</p> <p>Adequate refrigeration is one of the keys to food safety and is essential to preventing bacterial growth. Refrigerator temperatures should be no higher than 40°F and freezer temperatures no higher then 0°F. Consumers should check the temperatures occasionally with an appliance thermometer.</p> <p>Consumers should look for the words "Keep Refrigerated" on juice labels so they know which products must be kept refrigerated. FDA is looking into whether industry's current juice labels provide clear refrigeration instructions</p> <p> </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248902 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248902 <p>Wouldn't the $100,000 be better spent improving the sanitation at Bolthouse Farms?  Anyone remember the FDA press release from a couple of years ago?   For those who don't, here it is:</p> <p>FDA Warns Consumers Not To Drink Bolthouse Farms Carrot Juice Due to Botulism Concerns<!-- #EndEditable --><!-- #BeginEditable "Body of Text" --></p> <p>In response to a fourth case of botulism being linked to Bolthouse Farms, Bakersfield, California brand carrot juice, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is warning consumers not to drink Bolthouse Farms Carrot Juice, 450 ml and 1 liter plastic bottles, with "BEST IF USED BY" dates of NOV 11 2006 or earlier.  Consumers should discard this product. FDA is also reiterating its advice to consumers to keep carrot juice — including pasteurized carrot juice — refrigerated.</p> <p>The fourth case of botulism poisoning involves an adult female in Florida who is currently suffering from paralysis. To date, one link between the illness and the consumers appears to be that the juice they drank was not properly refrigerated once it was in the home, which allowed the <em>Clostridium botulinum</em> spores to grow and produce toxin.  FDA is investigating other possible links.</p> <p><em>Clostridium botulinum</em> is a bacterium commonly found in soil.  Under certain conditions these bacteria can produce a toxin that if ingested can result in botulism, a disease that may cause paralysis or death.  Cases of botulism from processed food are extremely rare in the U.S.</p> <p>Symptoms of botulism can include: double-vision, droopy eyelids, altered voice, trouble with speaking or swallowing, and paralysis on both sides of the body that progresses from the neck down, possibly followed by difficulty in breathing. Anyone experiencing these symptoms should seek immediate medical attention.</p> <p>Adequate refrigeration is one of the keys to food safety and is essential to preventing bacterial growth. Refrigerator temperatures should be no higher than 40°F and freezer temperatures no higher then 0°F. Consumers should check the temperatures occasionally with an appliance thermometer.</p> <p>Consumers should look for the words "Keep Refrigerated" on juice labels so they know which products must be kept refrigerated. FDA is looking into whether industry's current juice labels provide clear refrigeration instructions</p> <p> </p> <p>Was BoltHouse bought buy a larger company, recently?&nbsp; I haven't bought Bolthouse drinks for awhile. They are kind of pricey, but Costco has good deals on them.&nbsp; Now, I definately won't be buying their drinks.&nbsp; I even have a family member who works for them.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248905 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248905 <p>Was BoltHouse bought buy a larger company, recently?&nbsp; I haven't bought Bolthouse drinks for awhile. They are kind of pricey, but Costco has good deals on them.&nbsp; Now, I definately won't be buying their drinks.&nbsp; I even have a family member who works for them.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>A report from a couple of years ago means they should put money nto sanitation?&nbsp; Anything on the current conditions?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248912 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248912 <p>A report from a couple of years ago means they should put money nto sanitation?&nbsp; Anything on the current conditions?</p> <p>The Bolthouse Farms website has a nifty little&nbsp;store locator function for Bolthouse Farms drinks and dressings.&nbsp; According to it, Bolthouse Farms drinks are sold in 137 stores in San Francisco.&nbsp; I wonder how many of them will carry the stuff once the word gets out and customers start complaining.&nbsp; San Francisco is a world unto itself, and a Bolthouse boycott there will most certainly work.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248913 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248913 <p>The Bolthouse Farms website has a nifty little&nbsp;store locator function for Bolthouse Farms drinks and dressings.&nbsp; According to it, Bolthouse Farms drinks are sold in 137 stores in San Francisco.&nbsp; I wonder how many of them will carry the stuff once the word gets out and customers start complaining.&nbsp; San Francisco is a world unto itself, and a Bolthouse boycott there will most certainly work.</p> <p>Buy Grimmway!!! I heard that Bolthouse is reducing employee benefits, and they are spending money to fight gay marriage. Talk about screwed up priorities.</p> <br /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248915 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248915 <p>Buy Grimmway!!! I heard that Bolthouse is reducing employee benefits, and they are spending money to fight gay marriage. Talk about screwed up priorities.</p> <br /> <p>Sounds like Bolthouse is going down in SF.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248916 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248916 <p>Sounds like Bolthouse is going down in SF.</p> <p>Does anybody know if Bolthouse receives any federal agricultural subsidies?</p> <br /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248917 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248917 <p>Does anybody know if Bolthouse receives any federal agricultural subsidies?</p> <br /> <p>OMG!&nbsp; Bolthouse drinks are sold at the Ralphs in West Hollywood!&nbsp;&nbsp;I'd hate to be the store manager there!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248922 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248922 <p>OMG!&nbsp; Bolthouse drinks are sold at the Ralphs in West Hollywood!&nbsp;&nbsp;I'd hate to be the store manager there!</p> <p>Sounds like there will be excitement in Weho</p> <br /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248926 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248926 <p>Sounds like there will be excitement in Weho</p> <br /> <p>Here's some info from wikipedia.</p> <br /> <h2><span class="mw-headline">Controversy</span></h2> <p><a id="Bolthouse_Foundation" name="Bolthouse_Foundation"></a></p> <h3><span class="editsection">[<a title="Edit section: Bolthouse Foundation" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bolthouse_Farms&action=edit&section=8">edit</a>]</span> <span class="mw-headline">Bolthouse Foundation</span></h3> <p>Bolthouse Farms company profits are used to support the The Bolthouse Foundation<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-BOLTFON_3-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-BOLTFON-3">[4]</a></sup>, which supports groups including <a title="Evangelicalism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism">Evangelical Christian</a> organizations.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-WASHSPEC_4-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-WASHSPEC-4">[5]</a></sup></p> <p>Controversy surrounds the foundation as it, along with figures such as <a title="Blackwater Worldwide" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide">Blackwater Worldwide</a> founder <a title="Erik Prince" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince">Erik Prince</a>, are major donors for the <a title="Alliance Defense Fund" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Defense_Fund">Alliance Defense Fund</a> that is itself criticized for their perceived legal team offense against <a title="Separation of church and state" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state">Separation of church and state</a> (as defined in the <a title="First Amendment to the United States Constitution" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution">First Amendment to the United States Constitution</a>), their stance against <a title="Homosexuality" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality">homosexuality</a>, their focus on <a title="Proselytism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proselytism">proselytism</a>, as well as their opposition to <a title="Birth control" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_control">birth control</a> and <a title="Sex education" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_education">sex education</a> amongst other reasons.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-WASHSPEC_4-1"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-WASHSPEC-4">[5]</a></sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-GOICOU_5-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-GOICOU-5">[6]</a></sup></p> <p>The controversy surrounding the company has led some Bolthouse consumers to boycott Bolthouse Farms products<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-6"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-6">[7]</a></sup></p> <p><a id="Carrot_botulism_outbreak" name="Carrot_botulism_outbreak"></a></p> <h3><span class="editsection">[<a title="Edit section: Carrot botulism outbreak" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bolthouse_Farms&action=edit&section=9">edit</a>]</span> <span class="mw-headline">Carrot botulism outbreak</span></h3> <p>In September 2006, the <a title="Canadian Food Inspection Agency" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Food_Inspection_Agency">Canadian Food Inspection Agency</a> ordered a voluntarily recall on the Bolthouse Farms "100 per cent Carrot Juice" and other Bolthouse Farms products due to several cases of <a title="Botulism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism">botulism</a> resulting from consumption of the products. On September 29, 2006 the <a title="United States" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">United States</a> <a title="Food and Drug Administration" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration">Food and Drug Administration</a> recommended that Georgia residents not purchase Bolthouse Farms carrot juice and, the same day, warned consumers not to purchase Bolthouse Farms products dated November 11, 2006 or earlier.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-CONBLA_7-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-CONBLA-7">[8]</a></sup></p> <p>The warning and recalls were due to reported cases of consumption of the beverages resulting in six cases of botulism in the United States and Canada. Two cases in <a title="Toronto" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto">Toronto</a>, <a title="Canada" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada">Canada</a> resulted in paralysis; three cases recorded in <a title="Georgia (U.S. state)" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_%28U.S._state%29">Georgia</a>, <a title="United States" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">United States</a> resulted in respiratory failure, with the patients requiring ventilators; one case recorded in <a title="Florida" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida">Florida</a> resulted in hospitalization. The patient in Florida has remained unresponsive since mid-September of 2006.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-TOXCAR_8-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-TOXCAR-8">[9]</a></sup></p> <p>In response, Bolthouse Farms claimed that the illness was the fault of the consumers who had failed to properly refrigerate the products<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-CONBLA_7-1"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-CONBLA-7">[8]</a></sup>. The US Food and Drug Administration cited that this may not be the case and an investigation continues.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-9"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-9">[10]</a></sup> Bolthouse Farms has subsequently released an <a title="FAQ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAQ">FAQ</a> regarding the event.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-BOLFAQ_10-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-BOLFAQ-10">[11]</a></sup></p> <p><a id="References" name="References"></a></p> <h2><span class="editsection">[<a title="Edit section: References" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bolthouse_Farms&action=edit&section=10">edit</a>]</span></h2> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248927 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248927 <p>Here's some info from wikipedia.</p> <br /> <h2><span class="mw-headline">Controversy</span></h2> <p><a id="Bolthouse_Foundation" name="Bolthouse_Foundation"></a></p> <h3><span class="editsection">[<a title="Edit section: Bolthouse Foundation" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bolthouse_Farms&action=edit&section=8">edit</a>]</span> <span class="mw-headline">Bolthouse Foundation</span></h3> <p>Bolthouse Farms company profits are used to support the The Bolthouse Foundation<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-BOLTFON_3-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-BOLTFON-3">[4]</a></sup>, which supports groups including <a title="Evangelicalism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism">Evangelical Christian</a> organizations.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-WASHSPEC_4-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-WASHSPEC-4">[5]</a></sup></p> <p>Controversy surrounds the foundation as it, along with figures such as <a title="Blackwater Worldwide" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide">Blackwater Worldwide</a> founder <a title="Erik Prince" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince">Erik Prince</a>, are major donors for the <a title="Alliance Defense Fund" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Defense_Fund">Alliance Defense Fund</a> that is itself criticized for their perceived legal team offense against <a title="Separation of church and state" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state">Separation of church and state</a> (as defined in the <a title="First Amendment to the United States Constitution" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution">First Amendment to the United States Constitution</a>), their stance against <a title="Homosexuality" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality">homosexuality</a>, their focus on <a title="Proselytism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proselytism">proselytism</a>, as well as their opposition to <a title="Birth control" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_control">birth control</a> and <a title="Sex education" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_education">sex education</a> amongst other reasons.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-WASHSPEC_4-1"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-WASHSPEC-4">[5]</a></sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-GOICOU_5-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-GOICOU-5">[6]</a></sup></p> <p>The controversy surrounding the company has led some Bolthouse consumers to boycott Bolthouse Farms products<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-6"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-6">[7]</a></sup></p> <p><a id="Carrot_botulism_outbreak" name="Carrot_botulism_outbreak"></a></p> <h3><span class="editsection">[<a title="Edit section: Carrot botulism outbreak" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bolthouse_Farms&action=edit&section=9">edit</a>]</span> <span class="mw-headline">Carrot botulism outbreak</span></h3> <p>In September 2006, the <a title="Canadian Food Inspection Agency" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Food_Inspection_Agency">Canadian Food Inspection Agency</a> ordered a voluntarily recall on the Bolthouse Farms "100 per cent Carrot Juice" and other Bolthouse Farms products due to several cases of <a title="Botulism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism">botulism</a> resulting from consumption of the products. On September 29, 2006 the <a title="United States" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">United States</a> <a title="Food and Drug Administration" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration">Food and Drug Administration</a> recommended that Georgia residents not purchase Bolthouse Farms carrot juice and, the same day, warned consumers not to purchase Bolthouse Farms products dated November 11, 2006 or earlier.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-CONBLA_7-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-CONBLA-7">[8]</a></sup></p> <p>The warning and recalls were due to reported cases of consumption of the beverages resulting in six cases of botulism in the United States and Canada. Two cases in <a title="Toronto" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto">Toronto</a>, <a title="Canada" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada">Canada</a> resulted in paralysis; three cases recorded in <a title="Georgia (U.S. state)" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_%28U.S._state%29">Georgia</a>, <a title="United States" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">United States</a> resulted in respiratory failure, with the patients requiring ventilators; one case recorded in <a title="Florida" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida">Florida</a> resulted in hospitalization. The patient in Florida has remained unresponsive since mid-September of 2006.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-TOXCAR_8-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-TOXCAR-8">[9]</a></sup></p> <p>In response, Bolthouse Farms claimed that the illness was the fault of the consumers who had failed to properly refrigerate the products<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-CONBLA_7-1"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-CONBLA-7">[8]</a></sup>. The US Food and Drug Administration cited that this may not be the case and an investigation continues.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-9"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-9">[10]</a></sup> Bolthouse Farms has subsequently released an <a title="FAQ" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAQ">FAQ</a> regarding the event.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-BOLFAQ_10-0"><a title="" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolthouse_Farms#cite_note-BOLFAQ-10">[11]</a></sup></p> <p><a id="References" name="References"></a></p> <h2><span class="editsection">[<a title="Edit section: References" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bolthouse_Farms&action=edit&section=10">edit</a>]</span></h2> <p>If you looked up the campaign contributions of all the producers of your produce and used that for your buying decisions, you might just be left with nothing to munch on unless you know a backyard gardener whose political views you agree with. This is a conservative town, so it's not suprising the local produce farms have owners donating to conservative causes. </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248935 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248935 <p>If you looked up the campaign contributions of all the producers of your produce and used that for your buying decisions, you might just be left with nothing to munch on unless you know a backyard gardener whose political views you agree with. This is a conservative town, so it's not suprising the local produce farms have owners donating to conservative causes. </p> <p>Pediatric cancer?&nbsp;&nbsp; Naw.</p> <p>Children starving in Angola?&nbsp;&nbsp; Nope.</p> <p>Rainforest depletion in South America?&nbsp;&nbsp; Boring!</p> <p>Ballot initiative banning gay marriage in the State of California?&nbsp;&nbsp; Bingo!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248987 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248987 <p>Pediatric cancer?&nbsp;&nbsp; Naw.</p> <p>Children starving in Angola?&nbsp;&nbsp; Nope.</p> <p>Rainforest depletion in South America?&nbsp;&nbsp; Boring!</p> <p>Ballot initiative banning gay marriage in the State of California?&nbsp;&nbsp; Bingo!</p> <p>Cat, everyone has their priorities.&nbsp; Skewed though they may be!</p> <p>Guess I'm off carrots.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248989 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248989 <p>Cat, everyone has their priorities.&nbsp; Skewed though they may be!</p> <p>Guess I'm off carrots.</p> <p>I'll be taking my carrot money and donating it to fight this initiative.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248992 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248992 <p>I'll be taking my carrot money and donating it to fight this initiative.</p> <p>This is a tad off topic...but then, maybe not so far off.</p> <p>Have you folks ever noticed that generally, people don't get involved in &quot;causes&quot; until that &quot;cause&quot; strikes close to home?&nbsp; I doubt many people get active in the Juvenile Diabetes fundraisers for instance until a family member is diagnosed with it.&nbsp; (or any other organization)</p> <p>Back on topic.&nbsp; Like it or not folks, this farmer has a right to financially support&nbsp;his beliefs.&nbsp; You have a right to protest by not buying the product.&nbsp; There are an awful lot of people out there who agree with Bolthouse..</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248996 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248996 <p>This is a tad off topic...but then, maybe not so far off.</p> <p>Have you folks ever noticed that generally, people don't get involved in &quot;causes&quot; until that &quot;cause&quot; strikes close to home?&nbsp; I doubt many people get active in the Juvenile Diabetes fundraisers for instance until a family member is diagnosed with it.&nbsp; (or any other organization)</p> <p>Back on topic.&nbsp; Like it or not folks, this farmer has a right to financially support&nbsp;his beliefs.&nbsp; You have a right to protest by not buying the product.&nbsp; There are an awful lot of people out there who agree with Bolthouse..</p> <p>My boycott of a two bag a year purchase of carrots&nbsp; would hardly topple the Bolthouse carrot industry.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'll let it ride.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248999 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_248999 <p>My boycott of a two bag a year purchase of carrots&nbsp; would hardly topple the Bolthouse carrot industry.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'll let it ride.</p> <p>Are you saying this issue strikes close to home for the Bolthouses?&nbsp;&nbsp; :-)</p> <p>Nancy</p> <p>There are&nbsp;just as many people who agree with them who will <b>start </b>eating carrots as there are carrot eaters who will stop because they disagree.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249002 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249002 <p>Are you saying this issue strikes close to home for the Bolthouses?&nbsp;&nbsp; :-)</p> <p>Nancy</p> <p>There are&nbsp;just as many people who agree with them who will <b>start </b>eating carrots as there are carrot eaters who will stop because they disagree.</p> <p>Audrey,&nbsp; Not at all..I was just thinking about that from Cats comment about Pancreatic Cancer...just a wandering thought.&nbsp; That's why I qualified it with it being a tad off&nbsp; topic.&nbsp; People tend to put their money and energies into causes that are important to them personally.&nbsp; According to maggzies article, they support evangelicals so that would explain their stance on gay marriages.</p> <p>You could be right about those who will start eating carrots to support Bolthouse.&nbsp; Now THAT would be funny.&nbsp; Choking down carrots just to support Bolthouse.&nbsp; I don't particularly like carrots so it's a moot point for me.&nbsp;&nbsp; I buy a few bags a year for stews and pot roast but since I don't cook much any more, the carrot industry will neither rise nor fall on my purchases, or lack of.&nbsp; Come to think of it, I don't even eat the carrots I put in those dishes and only put them in if someone else will be sharing the food.</p> <p>Good Lord.&nbsp; Imagine that.&nbsp; The US may mimic the Roman Empire over carrots and Sausage McMuffins.&nbsp; Whouda thunk it?&nbsp; :-)</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249005 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249005 <p>Audrey,&nbsp; Not at all..I was just thinking about that from Cats comment about Pancreatic Cancer...just a wandering thought.&nbsp; That's why I qualified it with it being a tad off&nbsp; topic.&nbsp; People tend to put their money and energies into causes that are important to them personally.&nbsp; According to maggzies article, they support evangelicals so that would explain their stance on gay marriages.</p> <p>You could be right about those who will start eating carrots to support Bolthouse.&nbsp; Now THAT would be funny.&nbsp; Choking down carrots just to support Bolthouse.&nbsp; I don't particularly like carrots so it's a moot point for me.&nbsp;&nbsp; I buy a few bags a year for stews and pot roast but since I don't cook much any more, the carrot industry will neither rise nor fall on my purchases, or lack of.&nbsp; Come to think of it, I don't even eat the carrots I put in those dishes and only put them in if someone else will be sharing the food.</p> <p>Good Lord.&nbsp; Imagine that.&nbsp; The US may mimic the Roman Empire over carrots and Sausage McMuffins.&nbsp; Whouda thunk it?&nbsp; :-)</p> <p>I thought a majority of voters were for same sex marriage. Why the panic over what Bolthouse does? Couldn't be there are doubts about polling statistics, could it?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249006 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249006 <p>I thought a majority of voters were for same sex marriage. Why the panic over what Bolthouse does? Couldn't be there are doubts about polling statistics, could it?</p> <p>Is this the same carrot company that nearly destroyed workers comp. benefits a couple of elections back?&nbsp; One of them[carrot companies]&nbsp;used lots of money and deceptive campaigning to have the laws changed so injured workers benefits and rights were lessened significantly.&nbsp; If so this fits in with that personality.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249013 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249013 <p>Is this the same carrot company that nearly destroyed workers comp. benefits a couple of elections back?&nbsp; One of them[carrot companies]&nbsp;used lots of money and deceptive campaigning to have the laws changed so injured workers benefits and rights were lessened significantly.&nbsp; If so this fits in with that personality.</p> <p><b><i>&nbsp;Pediatric cancer?&nbsp;&nbsp; Naw.</i></b></p> <p><b><i>Children starving in Angola?&nbsp;&nbsp; Nope.</i></b></p> <p><b><i>Rainforest depletion in South America?&nbsp;&nbsp; Boring!</i></b></p> <p><b><i>Ballot initiative banning gay marriage in the State of California?&nbsp;&nbsp; Bingo!</i></b></p> <p>He may donate to those causes, as well. This is just one cause.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249111 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249111 <p><b><i>&nbsp;Pediatric cancer?&nbsp;&nbsp; Naw.</i></b></p> <p><b><i>Children starving in Angola?&nbsp;&nbsp; Nope.</i></b></p> <p><b><i>Rainforest depletion in South America?&nbsp;&nbsp; Boring!</i></b></p> <p><b><i>Ballot initiative banning gay marriage in the State of California?&nbsp;&nbsp; Bingo!</i></b></p> <p>He may donate to those causes, as well. This is just one cause.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>This is $100,000 he won't be donating to just causes.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249112 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249112 <p>This is $100,000 he won't be donating to just causes.</p> <p>Nancy: You're right. I never got involved in epilepsy causes until my son developed it. And in really thinking about it I have slacked off on my donations since he outgrew it. I guess I had better find my checkbook......</p> <p>Edit: Shoot, almost forgot the glut of pink items in my house that appeared after the wife developed breast cancer last year. I'm still active in that cause, though.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249115 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249115 <p>Nancy: You're right. I never got involved in epilepsy causes until my son developed it. And in really thinking about it I have slacked off on my donations since he outgrew it. I guess I had better find my checkbook......</p> <p>Edit: Shoot, almost forgot the glut of pink items in my house that appeared after the wife developed breast cancer last year. I'm still active in that cause, though.</p> <p><b><i>&nbsp;This is $100,000 he won't be donating to just causes.</i></b></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Pssh! Says you. Sounds like a just cause to me.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249117 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249117 <p><b><i>&nbsp;This is $100,000 he won't be donating to just causes.</i></b></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Pssh! Says you. Sounds like a just cause to me.</p> <p>probably has a child with a little clutter in the closet, seems like a very vindictive statement AND is it tax deductable?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249120 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249120 <p>probably has a child with a little clutter in the closet, seems like a very vindictive statement AND is it tax deductable?</p> <p>CA Supreme Court denies stay on same-sex marriage ruling.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249121 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249121 <p>CA Supreme Court denies stay on same-sex marriage ruling.</p> <p>Witbee:&nbsp; How many children will it save?&nbsp; Zero.&nbsp; How many children might it hurt:&nbsp; thousands.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249123 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249123 <p>Witbee:&nbsp; How many children will it save?&nbsp; Zero.&nbsp; How many children might it hurt:&nbsp; thousands.</p> <p>Depends on your definition of &quot;save&quot; and &quot;hurt.&quot; I bet ours are different.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249134 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249134 <p>Depends on your definition of &quot;save&quot; and &quot;hurt.&quot; I bet ours are different.</p> <p><span style="font-size: small;">Great&lt;he has every right to his opinion,donation and so do we all. I'd spend my $100,000 a bit differently that is for sure.&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small;">Again folks~ we need to recognize messing around with the constitution,state or federal, is a<b><u> serious</u></b> issue,not a step to be taken lightly or without thought. </span></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249144 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249144 <p><span style="font-size: small;">Great&lt;he has every right to his opinion,donation and so do we all. I'd spend my $100,000 a bit differently that is for sure.&nbsp;</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: small;">Again folks~ we need to recognize messing around with the constitution,state or federal, is a<b><u> serious</u></b> issue,not a step to be taken lightly or without thought. </span></p> <p>If all these people want to take it in the A** Let them !!! as long as you are not sleeping with them who cares !! This world is full of wired people whats a few more..</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249146 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249146 <p>If all these people want to take it in the A** Let them !!! as long as you are not sleeping with them who cares !! This world is full of wired people whats a few more..</p> <p>&quot;Wired,&quot; indeed.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249152 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249152 <p>&quot;Wired,&quot; indeed.</p> <p>i was wondering if that was a typo or not?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249158 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249158 <p>i was wondering if that was a typo or not?</p> <p>Somebody check to see if Bolthouse receives Federal Subsidies which in turn is a part of the $100,000.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249170 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249170 <p>Somebody check to see if Bolthouse receives Federal Subsidies which in turn is a part of the $100,000.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p>I think that stinks.&nbsp; I mean, granted it's HIS money and he is perfectly entitled to do what he wants with it.&nbsp; I have gone around and around with people on this, but personally I see no problem with gay marriage and never have.&nbsp; I'm sure this will open up a firestorm, but it's the truth.&nbsp; Like gay people raising children; I'd rather see a child brought up in a home with two loving gay parents than two abusive STRAIGHT parents...but back to the issue at hand; I'm sure that Mr. Bolthouse is a fine upstanding Christian man with Christian values; which homosexuality HUGELY violates, therefore I can see HIS point and HIS view.</p> <p>After all, Bakersfield is a predominantly Christian town, which is why I'm assuming this is creating such an uproar.&nbsp; Personally I feel that this money could be MUCH better spent, like another poster said, upgrading the facilities and creating better employee benefit packages.&nbsp; However, this IS America, we DO have first amendment rights, and Mr. Bolthouse has the right to spend his money any way he sees fit.&nbsp; I feel it is a terrible shame for him to spend it to fight something that really, DOESN'T need to be fought but due to the popular sect (Christianity), it will be a never-ending issue.&nbsp; Welcome to the world, I guess.&nbsp; Hopefully there will be someone who will come up with $200,000 at some point to lobby FOR gay marriage and I will certainly throw my dollar in on THAT bandwagon.&nbsp;</p> <p>That being said, I will not be buying any bolthouse products anytime soon.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249239 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249239 <p>I think that stinks.&nbsp; I mean, granted it's HIS money and he is perfectly entitled to do what he wants with it.&nbsp; I have gone around and around with people on this, but personally I see no problem with gay marriage and never have.&nbsp; I'm sure this will open up a firestorm, but it's the truth.&nbsp; Like gay people raising children; I'd rather see a child brought up in a home with two loving gay parents than two abusive STRAIGHT parents...but back to the issue at hand; I'm sure that Mr. Bolthouse is a fine upstanding Christian man with Christian values; which homosexuality HUGELY violates, therefore I can see HIS point and HIS view.</p> <p>After all, Bakersfield is a predominantly Christian town, which is why I'm assuming this is creating such an uproar.&nbsp; Personally I feel that this money could be MUCH better spent, like another poster said, upgrading the facilities and creating better employee benefit packages.&nbsp; However, this IS America, we DO have first amendment rights, and Mr. Bolthouse has the right to spend his money any way he sees fit.&nbsp; I feel it is a terrible shame for him to spend it to fight something that really, DOESN'T need to be fought but due to the popular sect (Christianity), it will be a never-ending issue.&nbsp; Welcome to the world, I guess.&nbsp; Hopefully there will be someone who will come up with $200,000 at some point to lobby FOR gay marriage and I will certainly throw my dollar in on THAT bandwagon.&nbsp;</p> <p>That being said, I will not be buying any bolthouse products anytime soon.</p> <p>People are free to believe and sponsor what they wish but when it's something that's condonning bigotry, hatred, discrimination and just plain ignorance ...... sigh ....</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>i never was a big fan of carrots anyhow....</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249241 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249241 <p>People are free to believe and sponsor what they wish but when it's something that's condonning bigotry, hatred, discrimination and just plain ignorance ...... sigh ....</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>i never was a big fan of carrots anyhow....</p> <p>My definition of &quot;save&quot; and &quot;hurt&quot; are primarily physical harm, but also emotional harm as well.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm aware your priorities may be different.&nbsp; I think the anti-gay rhetoric is patent nonsense.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249243 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249243 <p>My definition of &quot;save&quot; and &quot;hurt&quot; are primarily physical harm, but also emotional harm as well.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm aware your priorities may be different.&nbsp; I think the anti-gay rhetoric is patent nonsense.</p> <p>let's grow our own freedom carrots</p> <br /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249260 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249260 <p>let's grow our own freedom carrots</p> <br /> <p>Sage,</p> <p>I think CA's Constitution is changed every election with the propositions.&nbsp; It is very difficult to change the US Constition via&nbsp; amendments.&nbsp; Since the US Constitution was implemented over 200 years ago there have been only 17 amendments added to the original 10 amendments, the Bill of Rights.&nbsp; People reinterpret the Constitution to establish new laws or overturn previous laws.&nbsp; The Constitution is not static. It is continually being reinterpreted.</p> <p>William Bolthouse's actions are an embarrassment to those who work for Bolthouse and people who live in Bakersfield, who try to believe that Bakersfield is not filled entirely with rednecks. However Bolthouse has a huge market abroad, so I doubt a national boycott would put them out of business. But, I won't buy their drinks because I don't want William Bolthouse to have any of my money.&nbsp;</p> <p>By the way, I do care about other issues.&nbsp; This year I have donated money to CARE and the ACLU.&nbsp; I admit that I need to switch from Olbermann to world news. But, I love the way Olbermann gets so fired up.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249264 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249264 <p>Sage,</p> <p>I think CA's Constitution is changed every election with the propositions.&nbsp; It is very difficult to change the US Constition via&nbsp; amendments.&nbsp; Since the US Constitution was implemented over 200 years ago there have been only 17 amendments added to the original 10 amendments, the Bill of Rights.&nbsp; People reinterpret the Constitution to establish new laws or overturn previous laws.&nbsp; The Constitution is not static. It is continually being reinterpreted.</p> <p>William Bolthouse's actions are an embarrassment to those who work for Bolthouse and people who live in Bakersfield, who try to believe that Bakersfield is not filled entirely with rednecks. However Bolthouse has a huge market abroad, so I doubt a national boycott would put them out of business. But, I won't buy their drinks because I don't want William Bolthouse to have any of my money.&nbsp;</p> <p>By the way, I do care about other issues.&nbsp; This year I have donated money to CARE and the ACLU.&nbsp; I admit that I need to switch from Olbermann to world news. But, I love the way Olbermann gets so fired up.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>It is really too bad that people spend so much time worrying about what other people are doing in their lives, rather than seeing to their own!  If a straight person feels that gay marriage being legalized somehow undermines their marriage, then they must have a problem in their marriage!   I say, if you don't like it, don't look at it!  How stupid that people are wasting their time and their money fighting something that has nothing whatsoever to do with their lives, except the attention that THEY choose to give to the issue.  And I thought that church and state were supposed to be separated anyway!  This clearly crosses the line.  (No pun intended!  HAH!)  Silly Christians.  Jesus said to love, not judge. </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249267 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249267 <p>It is really too bad that people spend so much time worrying about what other people are doing in their lives, rather than seeing to their own!  If a straight person feels that gay marriage being legalized somehow undermines their marriage, then they must have a problem in their marriage!   I say, if you don't like it, don't look at it!  How stupid that people are wasting their time and their money fighting something that has nothing whatsoever to do with their lives, except the attention that THEY choose to give to the issue.  And I thought that church and state were supposed to be separated anyway!  This clearly crosses the line.  (No pun intended!  HAH!)  Silly Christians.  Jesus said to love, not judge. </p> <p><span style="font-size: small;">I see your point~ but still caution and really thinking about changes is the right approach. BTW~ the stay has been denied,and my friends August marriage is still on!</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249271 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249271 <p><span style="font-size: small;">I see your point~ but still caution and really thinking about changes is the right approach. BTW~ the stay has been denied,and my friends August marriage is still on!</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Don't forget about the farmer's market on Saturday. Golden State Hwy and F St. 8-11am Saturday.</p> <br /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249318 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249318 <p>Don't forget about the farmer's market on Saturday. Golden State Hwy and F St. 8-11am Saturday.</p> <br /> <p>It's good to see a Christian who is taking a stand against what is evil.  This is why we have abortion, because Christians did not stand up and fight against it.  God's Word clearly speaks against homosexuality...and we must take a stand.  A lot of Christians have stood back and said..."Oh well...as long as it doesn't hurt me..."  Christians...wake up!!!  It is hurting us...it's hurting the family unit!!!  This is just the beginning of their agenda.  We <b>MUST</b> vote those into office who value the unborn life as well as those who wish to preserve the family.  </p> <p>Yes, we need to be loving and kind to all people, including people who are in this lifestyle, however, we do not have to accept it.  When you accept it...you embrace it...when you embrace it...you go against God's Word.  The Homosexuals want their sin to be accepted, and I for one, can not accept it.        </p> <p>For those against Bolthouse, it is your right to boycott who you want...just like it is mine.  It's also your right to support those who take a stand for something...just like it is mine. </p> <p>I realize that I am in the minority here, and that is ok...but one must speak out at such times as these.  Your name calling will get you no where with me.  It will only show who you are.  I have not name called, I have only spoken the truth...and unfortunately, it hurts sometimes.   </p> <p>  </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249335 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249335 <p>It's good to see a Christian who is taking a stand against what is evil.  This is why we have abortion, because Christians did not stand up and fight against it.  God's Word clearly speaks against homosexuality...and we must take a stand.  A lot of Christians have stood back and said..."Oh well...as long as it doesn't hurt me..."  Christians...wake up!!!  It is hurting us...it's hurting the family unit!!!  This is just the beginning of their agenda.  We <b>MUST</b> vote those into office who value the unborn life as well as those who wish to preserve the family.  </p> <p>Yes, we need to be loving and kind to all people, including people who are in this lifestyle, however, we do not have to accept it.  When you accept it...you embrace it...when you embrace it...you go against God's Word.  The Homosexuals want their sin to be accepted, and I for one, can not accept it.        </p> <p>For those against Bolthouse, it is your right to boycott who you want...just like it is mine.  It's also your right to support those who take a stand for something...just like it is mine. </p> <p>I realize that I am in the minority here, and that is ok...but one must speak out at such times as these.  Your name calling will get you no where with me.  It will only show who you are.  I have not name called, I have only spoken the truth...and unfortunately, it hurts sometimes.   </p> <p>  </p> <p>No, krgal, we have abortion because it's the best alternative in many, many cases.</p> <p>.</p> <p>God's word clearly speaks against eating shrimp, too.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>We don't want you to &quot;accept&quot; sin.&nbsp; We just want you to keep your nose out of other peoples' families.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249343 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249343 <p>No, krgal, we have abortion because it's the best alternative in many, many cases.</p> <p>.</p> <p>God's word clearly speaks against eating shrimp, too.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>We don't want you to &quot;accept&quot; sin.&nbsp; We just want you to keep your nose out of other peoples' families.</p> <p><span style="color: #ff0000">&quot;we have abortion because it's the best alternative in many, many cases.&quot;&nbsp; </span></p> <p>Rfactor...that is&nbsp;not true.&nbsp; Abortion&nbsp;takes&nbsp;innocent life and <b>for no good reason</b>.&nbsp; It is not the child's fault that someone either got pregnant through unprotected sex&nbsp;or was raped.&nbsp; Please do not misunderstand me and think that I do not have compassion for people.&nbsp; I do.&nbsp;&nbsp;I cry with others when bad&nbsp;things happen (I've had my own share of heartaches) to&nbsp;them, and my heart goes out to someone who is raped, but I would not want them to abort&nbsp;an innocent child.&nbsp; Adoption is always available.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>LOL...(no offense)&nbsp;but your argument about the shrimp is a moot point.&nbsp;&nbsp;First of all God was talking to the Jewish people and it was in the old testament (under the law).&nbsp; Secondly, when God was talking about homosexuality,&nbsp;He was talking to&nbsp;<b>ALL </b>people, Jews and Gentiles alike (and it's found in both the old and new testaments).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Sorry, but when it comes to &quot;the family unit&quot;, I'm going to put my nose in there and say what is wrong.&nbsp; You probably&nbsp;have the philosophy&nbsp;&quot;to live and let live&quot;, am I correct?&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm sorry, but that is not my philosophy.&nbsp; I&nbsp;want to honor God with what I do and say, and I would not be honoring Him if I keep quiet on this issue.</p> <p>I pray that you have&nbsp;a wonderful day...and I really do&nbsp;mean that.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249383 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249383 <p><span style="color: #ff0000">&quot;we have abortion because it's the best alternative in many, many cases.&quot;&nbsp; </span></p> <p>Rfactor...that is&nbsp;not true.&nbsp; Abortion&nbsp;takes&nbsp;innocent life and <b>for no good reason</b>.&nbsp; It is not the child's fault that someone either got pregnant through unprotected sex&nbsp;or was raped.&nbsp; Please do not misunderstand me and think that I do not have compassion for people.&nbsp; I do.&nbsp;&nbsp;I cry with others when bad&nbsp;things happen (I've had my own share of heartaches) to&nbsp;them, and my heart goes out to someone who is raped, but I would not want them to abort&nbsp;an innocent child.&nbsp; Adoption is always available.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>LOL...(no offense)&nbsp;but your argument about the shrimp is a moot point.&nbsp;&nbsp;First of all God was talking to the Jewish people and it was in the old testament (under the law).&nbsp; Secondly, when God was talking about homosexuality,&nbsp;He was talking to&nbsp;<b>ALL </b>people, Jews and Gentiles alike (and it's found in both the old and new testaments).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Sorry, but when it comes to &quot;the family unit&quot;, I'm going to put my nose in there and say what is wrong.&nbsp; You probably&nbsp;have the philosophy&nbsp;&quot;to live and let live&quot;, am I correct?&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm sorry, but that is not my philosophy.&nbsp; I&nbsp;want to honor God with what I do and say, and I would not be honoring Him if I keep quiet on this issue.</p> <p>I pray that you have&nbsp;a wonderful day...and I really do&nbsp;mean that.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>It *IS* true, and you can't make it not so by declaring it.&nbsp;</p> <p>.</p> <p>My argument about shrimp is *ON-TARGET*.&nbsp; The writer&nbsp;of Leviticus (who was *NOT* god)&nbsp;was *ALSO* talking to the Jewish people when he said nasty things about homosexuality, cotton/poly blend fabrics and not going to church if you need glasses.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Where in the New Testament is it found that homosexuality is wrong?&nbsp; And you should read Romans 1:33 before answering.</p> <p>.</p> <p>You can put your nose in there, just don't be surprised if it comes back bloody.&nbsp; Some folks are touchy about outsiders meddling in their families' business.&nbsp; You do your god no honor by backing bigotry.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249387 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249387 <p>It *IS* true, and you can't make it not so by declaring it.&nbsp;</p> <p>.</p> <p>My argument about shrimp is *ON-TARGET*.&nbsp; The writer&nbsp;of Leviticus (who was *NOT* god)&nbsp;was *ALSO* talking to the Jewish people when he said nasty things about homosexuality, cotton/poly blend fabrics and not going to church if you need glasses.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Where in the New Testament is it found that homosexuality is wrong?&nbsp; And you should read Romans 1:33 before answering.</p> <p>.</p> <p>You can put your nose in there, just don't be surprised if it comes back bloody.&nbsp; Some folks are touchy about outsiders meddling in their families' business.&nbsp; You do your god no honor by backing bigotry.</p> <p>Y'see, you seem to think we haven't seen this crap a hundred times before.&nbsp; It's been hashed out and hashed out.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249389 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249389 <p>Y'see, you seem to think we haven't seen this crap a hundred times before.&nbsp; It's been hashed out and hashed out.</p> <p>I'm getting really tired of agreeing with you RF.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249433 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249433 <p>I'm getting really tired of agreeing with you RF.</p> <p>Jimmy Carter for Vice President!</p> <p>.</p> <p>(feel&nbsp;better now?)&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249435 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249435 <p>Jimmy Carter for Vice President!</p> <p>.</p> <p>(feel&nbsp;better now?)&nbsp;</p> <p>Voted for him once.&nbsp; Before I grew up. Not again. That's really not even funny, I will not get that out of my mind all day now.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249446 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249446 <p>Voted for him once.&nbsp; Before I grew up. Not again. That's really not even funny, I will not get that out of my mind all day now.</p> <p><span style="font-size: small;">We have procedures,some of them dangerous,to test if a fetus(baby) is going to have many disabilities~ some of which are not the &quot;cute&quot; variety. A friend of mine did all these tests and her child was born with no scull,six fingers and six toes,blind. The hospital and doctors convinced my friend that to let the baby die was the kindest thing~ so they gave her no water or food. She dehydrated and starved to death,my friend had the courage to stay with her till she passed,holding her and loving her. I saw many other children with sever disabilities whose birth parents could not handle them,and gave them up to the state....I can not judge another human being,and wish these issues were much more clear cut,but IMHO some cases abortion would be the kindest solution. That is why choice remains the best option.</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249455 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249455 <p><span style="font-size: small;">We have procedures,some of them dangerous,to test if a fetus(baby) is going to have many disabilities~ some of which are not the &quot;cute&quot; variety. A friend of mine did all these tests and her child was born with no scull,six fingers and six toes,blind. The hospital and doctors convinced my friend that to let the baby die was the kindest thing~ so they gave her no water or food. She dehydrated and starved to death,my friend had the courage to stay with her till she passed,holding her and loving her. I saw many other children with sever disabilities whose birth parents could not handle them,and gave them up to the state....I can not judge another human being,and wish these issues were much more clear cut,but IMHO some cases abortion would be the kindest solution. That is why choice remains the best option.</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Rfactor...I apologize...Moses (who was the author of Leviticus) was the one who said that.&nbsp; And since you want to bring up Leviticus, I encourage you to read the following article/interview concerning homosexuality&nbsp;:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/waronfamily/homosexuality/scriptureand.html">http://www.lifesitenews.com/waronfamily/homosexuality/scriptureand.html</a>.&nbsp;</p> <p>I will not argue you with you anymore.&nbsp; I have said what I&nbsp;had to say.&nbsp; Threats will not silence me when it comes to speaking out&nbsp;against what is wrong.&nbsp; I do speak to you in love...not in hate...as you have done to me.&nbsp; Please tell me now, who is the bigot?</p> <p>As I said earlier, I do pray that you have a wonderful day.</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249521 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249521 <p>Rfactor...I apologize...Moses (who was the author of Leviticus) was the one who said that.&nbsp; And since you want to bring up Leviticus, I encourage you to read the following article/interview concerning homosexuality&nbsp;:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/waronfamily/homosexuality/scriptureand.html">http://www.lifesitenews.com/waronfamily/homosexuality/scriptureand.html</a>.&nbsp;</p> <p>I will not argue you with you anymore.&nbsp; I have said what I&nbsp;had to say.&nbsp; Threats will not silence me when it comes to speaking out&nbsp;against what is wrong.&nbsp; I do speak to you in love...not in hate...as you have done to me.&nbsp; Please tell me now, who is the bigot?</p> <p>As I said earlier, I do pray that you have a wonderful day.</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>KernRiverGal, you have been polite from where I can see, but where is it your place to interfere with people who want to be left alone?&nbsp; If you believe in the Christian faith, you undoubtedly know that you try to bring people to Jesus <i>first, </i>and <i>then</i> persuade their consciences of what you believe are sins within Christianity.</p> <p>You mentioned the value of human life.&nbsp; Wouldn't you rather see this $100,000 go toward promoting the safe surrender programs for unwanted newborn babies?&nbsp; Wouldn't you rather see it go to convalescent care for people in the final stages of their lives?</p> <p>Interfering with the lives of people who have not first chosen to accept your savior and adopt your faith is un-Christian and anti-humanitarian.&nbsp; Until you first convince individual persons of the truth of your faith, you might as well be speaking Russian to them.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249528 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249528 <p>KernRiverGal, you have been polite from where I can see, but where is it your place to interfere with people who want to be left alone?&nbsp; If you believe in the Christian faith, you undoubtedly know that you try to bring people to Jesus <i>first, </i>and <i>then</i> persuade their consciences of what you believe are sins within Christianity.</p> <p>You mentioned the value of human life.&nbsp; Wouldn't you rather see this $100,000 go toward promoting the safe surrender programs for unwanted newborn babies?&nbsp; Wouldn't you rather see it go to convalescent care for people in the final stages of their lives?</p> <p>Interfering with the lives of people who have not first chosen to accept your savior and adopt your faith is un-Christian and anti-humanitarian.&nbsp; Until you first convince individual persons of the truth of your faith, you might as well be speaking Russian to them.</p> <p>Dear Apollo...</p> <p>Thank you for your comments.&nbsp;&nbsp;Please allow me to respond to you.&nbsp;</p> <p>First of all, I am not interfering with&nbsp;their lifestyle.&nbsp; If a person chooses to live in&nbsp;a homosexual lifestyle, they are adults and are allowed to do&nbsp;so.&nbsp;&nbsp;Do I agree with them?&nbsp; No (and I think that I've been clear as to why)...but it&nbsp;is their right.&nbsp; I do not&nbsp;agree; however,&nbsp;with the fact that they should be allowed to be married.&nbsp;&nbsp;And this has nothing to do with bigotry&nbsp;as&nbsp;was stated earlier.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>You are&nbsp;correct that I believe in&nbsp;the value of life.&nbsp;&nbsp;How do&nbsp;we know&nbsp;that Mr. Bolthouse has not taken on that cause as well? &nbsp;I still think that his donating to this cause is the right thing to do.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>You are right that I can not change others to believe the way that I do.&nbsp; But how is a person supposed to know what is right and what is wrong if it is not shown to them?&nbsp; We are supposed to be the light and the salt in the world...and that doesn't mean that we have to keep quiet.&nbsp; How does a child know not to cross a street with oncoming cars?&nbsp; They are shown...they are taught.&nbsp; I believe that this demonstrates love.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p> <p>If I have said anything&nbsp;in a harsh tone, it was not my intention...and I apologize to anyone who believes that I have done so.&nbsp; I will not; however, apologize for what I believe to be right (in accordance with the Bible).&nbsp;</p> <p>With that said, thank you again, and I pray that you have a wonderful day as well.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249548 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249548 <p>Dear Apollo...</p> <p>Thank you for your comments.&nbsp;&nbsp;Please allow me to respond to you.&nbsp;</p> <p>First of all, I am not interfering with&nbsp;their lifestyle.&nbsp; If a person chooses to live in&nbsp;a homosexual lifestyle, they are adults and are allowed to do&nbsp;so.&nbsp;&nbsp;Do I agree with them?&nbsp; No (and I think that I've been clear as to why)...but it&nbsp;is their right.&nbsp; I do not&nbsp;agree; however,&nbsp;with the fact that they should be allowed to be married.&nbsp;&nbsp;And this has nothing to do with bigotry&nbsp;as&nbsp;was stated earlier.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>You are&nbsp;correct that I believe in&nbsp;the value of life.&nbsp;&nbsp;How do&nbsp;we know&nbsp;that Mr. Bolthouse has not taken on that cause as well? &nbsp;I still think that his donating to this cause is the right thing to do.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>You are right that I can not change others to believe the way that I do.&nbsp; But how is a person supposed to know what is right and what is wrong if it is not shown to them?&nbsp; We are supposed to be the light and the salt in the world...and that doesn't mean that we have to keep quiet.&nbsp; How does a child know not to cross a street with oncoming cars?&nbsp; They are shown...they are taught.&nbsp; I believe that this demonstrates love.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p> <p>If I have said anything&nbsp;in a harsh tone, it was not my intention...and I apologize to anyone who believes that I have done so.&nbsp; I will not; however, apologize for what I believe to be right (in accordance with the Bible).&nbsp;</p> <p>With that said, thank you again, and I pray that you have a wonderful day as well.</p> <p>For all of you that buy 2 packages a year of Carrots&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just bought 2&nbsp;&nbsp; and plan on many many more</p> <p>I was buying Grimmway&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; but now Bolt house</p> <p>Ron</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249559 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249559 <p>For all of you that buy 2 packages a year of Carrots&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just bought 2&nbsp;&nbsp; and plan on many many more</p> <p>I was buying Grimmway&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; but now Bolt house</p> <p>Ron</p> <p>KernRiverGal, I know your intentions are good, or I wouldn't be wasting time discussing it with you.&nbsp; I don't&nbsp;waste a word&nbsp;on people who don't have good intentions.&nbsp; Trying to use well-intended reasoning with people&nbsp;without good intentions is like trying to&nbsp;bribe a vegetarian&nbsp;with an all-meat pizza, and I see it as pointless.</p> <p>But you say, &quot;I do not&nbsp;agree; however,&nbsp;with the fact that they should be allowed to be married.&quot;</p> <p>If you honestly don't believe in interfering with their lives, they don't <i>need</i> your&nbsp;approval to get married.&nbsp; The fact that you think they need your permission means you <u>are</u> intending to interfere with their lives.&nbsp; The way that you scoff at the expression &quot;live and let live&quot; tells me that you envision for yourself some right to interfere with the lives of&nbsp;non-Christian people.</p> <p>How would <i>you</i> feel if you were planning to get married, and some joker whom you don't even know said that you shouldn't be allowed to get married for some reason that you don't understand?</p> <p>There is not a word, <u>not one word</u> in the Bible that directs you to lecture the world on your idea of right and wrong.</p> <p>Your mission, according to Jesus Christ, is to spread the Gospel and win converts to your spiritual path.</p> <p><u>Only then</u> can you begin to lecture them on Biblical right and wrong and expect it to carry any weight with them.&nbsp; Not before.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249939 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_249939 <p>KernRiverGal, I know your intentions are good, or I wouldn't be wasting time discussing it with you.&nbsp; I don't&nbsp;waste a word&nbsp;on people who don't have good intentions.&nbsp; Trying to use well-intended reasoning with people&nbsp;without good intentions is like trying to&nbsp;bribe a vegetarian&nbsp;with an all-meat pizza, and I see it as pointless.</p> <p>But you say, &quot;I do not&nbsp;agree; however,&nbsp;with the fact that they should be allowed to be married.&quot;</p> <p>If you honestly don't believe in interfering with their lives, they don't <i>need</i> your&nbsp;approval to get married.&nbsp; The fact that you think they need your permission means you <u>are</u> intending to interfere with their lives.&nbsp; The way that you scoff at the expression &quot;live and let live&quot; tells me that you envision for yourself some right to interfere with the lives of&nbsp;non-Christian people.</p> <p>How would <i>you</i> feel if you were planning to get married, and some joker whom you don't even know said that you shouldn't be allowed to get married for some reason that you don't understand?</p> <p>There is not a word, <u>not one word</u> in the Bible that directs you to lecture the world on your idea of right and wrong.</p> <p>Your mission, according to Jesus Christ, is to spread the Gospel and win converts to your spiritual path.</p> <p><u>Only then</u> can you begin to lecture them on Biblical right and wrong and expect it to carry any weight with them.&nbsp; Not before.</p> <p><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: larger">&nbsp;Yippee! I have a new nick-name for all the hating-breeders: Carotene-freaks!</span></span></span></p> <p><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: larger">Think I'll get t-shirts printed up. Come to think of it: My wedding colors will be Orange and White, instead of Black and White.</span></span></span></p> <p><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: larger">Flippin' hetero-haters make me laugh!</span></span></span></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_250410 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_250410 <p><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: larger">&nbsp;Yippee! I have a new nick-name for all the hating-breeders: Carotene-freaks!</span></span></span></p> <p><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: larger">Think I'll get t-shirts printed up. Come to think of it: My wedding colors will be Orange and White, instead of Black and White.</span></span></span></p> <p><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: larger">Flippin' hetero-haters make me laugh!</span></span></span></p> <p>Well, if the popular vote always prevailed, all you white folk would still be fightin' to keep yo slaves! </p> <p>Thank you, President Lincoln!!!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_250575 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_250575 <p>Well, if the popular vote always prevailed, all you white folk would still be fightin' to keep yo slaves! </p> <p>Thank you, President Lincoln!!!</p> <p>Grimmway is a bigger processor than Bolthouse. Bolthouse is not a farmer, by the way: the company is a processor, packager and marketer. It contracts with individual growers to grow carrots to their specifications.</p> <p>As for the issue of federal farming subsidies, Bolthouse doesn't qualify under the 2002 farm bill, but could under the new 2008 farm bill, but not for direct payments. The farmers who sell carrots to Bolthouse would qualify for direct payments. Bolthouse may get some agricultural money for market development, but otherwise, no.</p> <p>The company benefits more from things like illegal immigration, tax policy, and the like, but not federal farm payments.</p> <p>The family's fundamental religion is well-known in agricultural circles. The Grimm family s also quite religious but I doubt the former Mrs. Grimm (not sure what her new married name is) will donate money to a cause like this.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_250624 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_250624 <p>Grimmway is a bigger processor than Bolthouse. Bolthouse is not a farmer, by the way: the company is a processor, packager and marketer. It contracts with individual growers to grow carrots to their specifications.</p> <p>As for the issue of federal farming subsidies, Bolthouse doesn't qualify under the 2002 farm bill, but could under the new 2008 farm bill, but not for direct payments. The farmers who sell carrots to Bolthouse would qualify for direct payments. Bolthouse may get some agricultural money for market development, but otherwise, no.</p> <p>The company benefits more from things like illegal immigration, tax policy, and the like, but not federal farm payments.</p> <p>The family's fundamental religion is well-known in agricultural circles. The Grimm family s also quite religious but I doubt the former Mrs. Grimm (not sure what her new married name is) will donate money to a cause like this.</p> <p>Way to go Bolthouse.  It is about time someone stand up for what they believe to be wrong and to speak out about it - also to finance it!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_258919 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_258919 <p>Way to go Bolthouse.  It is about time someone stand up for what they believe to be wrong and to speak out about it - also to finance it!</p> <p>Hey NancyII,</p> <p>You ironically suggest that gays are only interested in causes when they affect their own group.&nbsp; But have YOU ever noticed how so many religious&nbsp;people get involved in things that DON'T affect them in the least?&nbsp;</p> <p>If I married a man, how would that make your marriage worse, better, more exciting, less valid,&nbsp;spicey, less&nbsp;sexually satisfying, or anything else?&nbsp; Is there some magic spell I'm not aware of that can only be inflicted upon heterosexuals when two men or two women say wedding vows?</p> <p>I counted at least half a dozen comments from you, so I'm sure you're discussing this at your little Church Lady socials on Sundays, but you really need to take a history class and learn how many similar Civil Rights issues were railed against by Conservative Republican Christians in U.S. history...it's just about ALL of them.&nbsp; They voted for Segregation and against the Civil Rights Act.&nbsp; They voted against Women's Suffrage.&nbsp; They support the Occupation of Iraq.&nbsp; They supported the horrors of&nbsp;McCarthyism and then the lies and&nbsp;criminal activities of that racist Richard&nbsp;Nixon.&nbsp; They voted against Child Labor Laws, unions, and&nbsp;the 40-hour work week.</p> <p>Just how many times does your group have to be wrong before you learn your lesson and stop spreading the hate?&nbsp; Or is your self-esteem really so low that you can't manage to go on living without a group to piss all over?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267626 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267626 <p>Hey NancyII,</p> <p>You ironically suggest that gays are only interested in causes when they affect their own group.&nbsp; But have YOU ever noticed how so many religious&nbsp;people get involved in things that DON'T affect them in the least?&nbsp;</p> <p>If I married a man, how would that make your marriage worse, better, more exciting, less valid,&nbsp;spicey, less&nbsp;sexually satisfying, or anything else?&nbsp; Is there some magic spell I'm not aware of that can only be inflicted upon heterosexuals when two men or two women say wedding vows?</p> <p>I counted at least half a dozen comments from you, so I'm sure you're discussing this at your little Church Lady socials on Sundays, but you really need to take a history class and learn how many similar Civil Rights issues were railed against by Conservative Republican Christians in U.S. history...it's just about ALL of them.&nbsp; They voted for Segregation and against the Civil Rights Act.&nbsp; They voted against Women's Suffrage.&nbsp; They support the Occupation of Iraq.&nbsp; They supported the horrors of&nbsp;McCarthyism and then the lies and&nbsp;criminal activities of that racist Richard&nbsp;Nixon.&nbsp; They voted against Child Labor Laws, unions, and&nbsp;the 40-hour work week.</p> <p>Just how many times does your group have to be wrong before you learn your lesson and stop spreading the hate?&nbsp; Or is your self-esteem really so low that you can't manage to go on living without a group to piss all over?</p> <p>Bingo !!</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267628 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267628 <p>Bingo !!</p> <p>Dear kernrivergal63:</p> <p>What the people of Kern&nbsp;County (like you) so often forget is that we don't create laws based on your religious beliefs (or anyone else's).&nbsp; If we did, you'd find yourself living under quite different circumstances.&nbsp; I often find myself in the position of teaching Christians their own religion - so few of them have actually read their own Bible, relying instead upon some leader in their church to read it and offer sermons that are hand-selected to create a myth within a myth.</p> <p>The truth is, the Bible talks about burning people alive, stoning them to death, cutting off/out parts of their bodies, owning slaves, denying women their rights, and many other horrific things.&nbsp; People often tell me that they ignore those parts, offering up some excuse or another (e.g., Jesus returned and everything changed).&nbsp; Poppycock!&nbsp; Jesus said, &quot;<i>I have not come to destroy the law or the prophets, I come to fulfill. Not one Jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law until all be fulfilled.</i>&quot;&nbsp; In other words, there's no reason for you or anyone else to ignore or deny a SINGLE rule in that book.&nbsp; So, as a woman, you are to REMAIN SILENT.&nbsp; You also cannot own property, and your husband is to make ALL decisions for you.&nbsp; If your children talk back to you, you are to kill them.&nbsp; All of this and more awaits you if you start basing U.S. law on Biblical teachings.</p> <p>But you won't, will you?&nbsp; You're just pull out those sections that your Pastor told you are there, and you'll remain ignorant of the rest.&nbsp; You won't know that it&nbsp;says that you can't sow two types of seeds in the same soil, or that you're not allowed to eat pork, or that the proper way to deal with leprosy is to &quot;<i>Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly off. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally kill a couple doves and offer one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering.&quot;</i></p> <p>Oh, and somewhere in all that craziness, it also says that two men shouldn't have sex.&nbsp; Funny how, out of ALL THOSE RULES, it's only the one that can't affect YOU that you're concerned with.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267630 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267630 <p>Dear kernrivergal63:</p> <p>What the people of Kern&nbsp;County (like you) so often forget is that we don't create laws based on your religious beliefs (or anyone else's).&nbsp; If we did, you'd find yourself living under quite different circumstances.&nbsp; I often find myself in the position of teaching Christians their own religion - so few of them have actually read their own Bible, relying instead upon some leader in their church to read it and offer sermons that are hand-selected to create a myth within a myth.</p> <p>The truth is, the Bible talks about burning people alive, stoning them to death, cutting off/out parts of their bodies, owning slaves, denying women their rights, and many other horrific things.&nbsp; People often tell me that they ignore those parts, offering up some excuse or another (e.g., Jesus returned and everything changed).&nbsp; Poppycock!&nbsp; Jesus said, &quot;<i>I have not come to destroy the law or the prophets, I come to fulfill. Not one Jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law until all be fulfilled.</i>&quot;&nbsp; In other words, there's no reason for you or anyone else to ignore or deny a SINGLE rule in that book.&nbsp; So, as a woman, you are to REMAIN SILENT.&nbsp; You also cannot own property, and your husband is to make ALL decisions for you.&nbsp; If your children talk back to you, you are to kill them.&nbsp; All of this and more awaits you if you start basing U.S. law on Biblical teachings.</p> <p>But you won't, will you?&nbsp; You're just pull out those sections that your Pastor told you are there, and you'll remain ignorant of the rest.&nbsp; You won't know that it&nbsp;says that you can't sow two types of seeds in the same soil, or that you're not allowed to eat pork, or that the proper way to deal with leprosy is to &quot;<i>Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly off. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally kill a couple doves and offer one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering.&quot;</i></p> <p>Oh, and somewhere in all that craziness, it also says that two men shouldn't have sex.&nbsp; Funny how, out of ALL THOSE RULES, it's only the one that can't affect YOU that you're concerned with.</p> <p>Hey Sheldon.  Lets take a look at your post on a topic that was put to bed a month ago.  I'll break it down for you to make it easier for you to understand.  I'll even use little words so you won't have any trouble.   Why you dredged up this topic is a mystery to me but my guess is you're just looking to stir up some dust.  </p> <p><i>You ironically suggest that gays are only interested in causes when they affect their own group.  But have YOU ever noticed how so many religious people get involved in things that DON'T affect them in the least? </i></p> <p>Apparently you don't read well here because I was talking about how PEOPLE usually don't get involved in a cause until it strikes close to home and even cited Cats comment as the reason it came to mind.  I mentioned that in my qualifying statement and wasn't even referring to gays although they could be included.  I was talking in general about childrens diabetes and so on as well as gay rights.</p> <p><i>If I married a man, how would that make your marriage worse, better, more exciting, less valid, spicey, less sexually satisfying, or anything else?  Is there some magic spell I'm not aware of that can only be inflicted upon heterosexuals when two men or two women say wedding vows?   </i></p> <p>Not once, not ever, have I said anything about gay marriage affecting my marriage (since I'm not marrie,  or anyone elses.  You'd need to show me where I said anything remotely like that.</p> <p><i>I counted at least half a dozen comments from you, so I'm sure you're discussing this at your little Church Lady socials on Sundays, but you really need to take a history class and learn how many similar Civil Rights issues were railed against by Conservative Republican Christians in U.S. history...it's just about ALL of them.  They voted for Segregation and against the Civil Rights Act.  They voted against Women's Suffrage.  They support the Occupation of Iraq.  They supported the horrors of McCarthyism and then the lies and criminal activities of that racist Richard Nixon.  They voted against Child Labor Laws, unions, and the 40-hour work week.</i></p> <p>Now you're either delusional or laboring under a misaprehension because not only do I not belong to a little church lady social group, I don't even belong to a church.  And I'd like you to also show me where I ever denied gays rights.  I've said all along that civil unions between gays should be allowed and that they should have rights to insurance, health decisions, survivorship, and anything else they need.  The only thing I've EVER said about the rights issue had to do with the word marriage and no, I do not believe they should be married in the traditional sense.  As I've stated numerous times on here (and the gay rights marriage advocates can back me up) is that my objections are not religious ones.  Note the word NOT.  You seem to have overlooked that little word.  In fact, you've overlooked most of what I had to say about this topic over time.  If you really did, indeed, read my posts.</p> <p><i>Just how many times does your group have to be wrong before you learn your lesson and stop spreading the hate?  Or is your self-esteem really so low that you can't manage to go on living without a group to piss all over?</i></p> <p>Once again, I have no "group" to spread anything with and, in fact, this topic rarely even comes up.  You're a foul mouthed little bigot Mr. Sheldon, and my gay friends would probably be interested in your bitter tirade about me hating and "pissing" all over them.</p> <p>And in closing, my self esteem is just fine thank you.  However, after your rant filled post I definitely question yours.</p> <div class="violation"> </div> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267638 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267638 <p>Hey Sheldon.  Lets take a look at your post on a topic that was put to bed a month ago.  I'll break it down for you to make it easier for you to understand.  I'll even use little words so you won't have any trouble.   Why you dredged up this topic is a mystery to me but my guess is you're just looking to stir up some dust.  </p> <p><i>You ironically suggest that gays are only interested in causes when they affect their own group.  But have YOU ever noticed how so many religious people get involved in things that DON'T affect them in the least? </i></p> <p>Apparently you don't read well here because I was talking about how PEOPLE usually don't get involved in a cause until it strikes close to home and even cited Cats comment as the reason it came to mind.  I mentioned that in my qualifying statement and wasn't even referring to gays although they could be included.  I was talking in general about childrens diabetes and so on as well as gay rights.</p> <p><i>If I married a man, how would that make your marriage worse, better, more exciting, less valid, spicey, less sexually satisfying, or anything else?  Is there some magic spell I'm not aware of that can only be inflicted upon heterosexuals when two men or two women say wedding vows?   </i></p> <p>Not once, not ever, have I said anything about gay marriage affecting my marriage (since I'm not marrie,  or anyone elses.  You'd need to show me where I said anything remotely like that.</p> <p><i>I counted at least half a dozen comments from you, so I'm sure you're discussing this at your little Church Lady socials on Sundays, but you really need to take a history class and learn how many similar Civil Rights issues were railed against by Conservative Republican Christians in U.S. history...it's just about ALL of them.  They voted for Segregation and against the Civil Rights Act.  They voted against Women's Suffrage.  They support the Occupation of Iraq.  They supported the horrors of McCarthyism and then the lies and criminal activities of that racist Richard Nixon.  They voted against Child Labor Laws, unions, and the 40-hour work week.</i></p> <p>Now you're either delusional or laboring under a misaprehension because not only do I not belong to a little church lady social group, I don't even belong to a church.  And I'd like you to also show me where I ever denied gays rights.  I've said all along that civil unions between gays should be allowed and that they should have rights to insurance, health decisions, survivorship, and anything else they need.  The only thing I've EVER said about the rights issue had to do with the word marriage and no, I do not believe they should be married in the traditional sense.  As I've stated numerous times on here (and the gay rights marriage advocates can back me up) is that my objections are not religious ones.  Note the word NOT.  You seem to have overlooked that little word.  In fact, you've overlooked most of what I had to say about this topic over time.  If you really did, indeed, read my posts.</p> <p><i>Just how many times does your group have to be wrong before you learn your lesson and stop spreading the hate?  Or is your self-esteem really so low that you can't manage to go on living without a group to piss all over?</i></p> <p>Once again, I have no "group" to spread anything with and, in fact, this topic rarely even comes up.  You're a foul mouthed little bigot Mr. Sheldon, and my gay friends would probably be interested in your bitter tirade about me hating and "pissing" all over them.</p> <p>And in closing, my self esteem is just fine thank you.  However, after your rant filled post I definitely question yours.</p> <div class="violation"> </div> <p>Sheldon,</p> <p>I'm sure that you make your Parents proud.................................NOT! They're really good people.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267662 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267662 <p>Sheldon,</p> <p>I'm sure that you make your Parents proud.................................NOT! They're really good people.</p> <p>From the Family Research Council, which recently enthusiastically endorsed the two-year boycott of Ford Motor Company by fellow far right "religious" nutcase Donald Wildmon's American Family Association:<br /> <br /> Is This Union Label?<br /> Date: July 1, 2008 - Tuesday<br /> ==========<br /> Stories of the homosexual lobby intimidating companies and individuals who stand up for man-woman marriage are becoming more and more common:<br /> In Massachusetts, during a petition drive to get a state marriage amendment on the ballot, homosexual activists called people who signed the petition and threatened them with lawsuits or worse.<br /> <br /> Boston public school teachers were threatened with<br /> termination if they failed to portray so-called homosexual "marriage" in a positive light.<br /> <br /> Michigan's largest homosexual activist group says once marriage is legally redefined to include homosexual couples, business owners and even news media outlets that refuse to recognize such marriages should be jailed, or sued and<br /> "publicly slapped."<br /> <br /> In California we are hearing similar stories, but now the intimidation tactics are being endorsed by one of the nation's largest unions -- the AFL-CIO.<br /> <br /> Homosexual advocates, with the powerful backing of national union leaders, are calling for a boycott of Bolthouse Farms, a California company that provides organic juices, lemonades, and smoothies to places like Whole Foods and<br /> other organic markets, simply because one of the minority owners donated money to the petition drive to put a marriage amendment on the ballot.<br /> This is another harbinger of how homosexual activists want Christians who opposeh omosexual "marriage" to be treated -- shut out of the public square with no recourse.<br /> <br /> Please contact the national AFL-CIO to let it know such tactics are intolerable. As people of religious faith and moral conviction who believe that marriage is between one man and one woman -- we will not be silenced.<br /> <br /> Contact the AFL-CIO today and show them that suppressing free speech is not what they bargained for!<br /> <a href="http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?=AL08G01&f=AL08G01#FORM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" t="htmlx"><font color="#164c97">http://www.frc.org/get.cfm...</font></a> <br /> <br /> Please take a minute now to forward this Alert to your family, friends, church groups and others. This year presents so many key opportunities, and we need to grow the FRC team to take advantage of these opportunities.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267685 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267685 <p>From the Family Research Council, which recently enthusiastically endorsed the two-year boycott of Ford Motor Company by fellow far right "religious" nutcase Donald Wildmon's American Family Association:<br /> <br /> Is This Union Label?<br /> Date: July 1, 2008 - Tuesday<br /> ==========<br /> Stories of the homosexual lobby intimidating companies and individuals who stand up for man-woman marriage are becoming more and more common:<br /> In Massachusetts, during a petition drive to get a state marriage amendment on the ballot, homosexual activists called people who signed the petition and threatened them with lawsuits or worse.<br /> <br /> Boston public school teachers were threatened with<br /> termination if they failed to portray so-called homosexual "marriage" in a positive light.<br /> <br /> Michigan's largest homosexual activist group says once marriage is legally redefined to include homosexual couples, business owners and even news media outlets that refuse to recognize such marriages should be jailed, or sued and<br /> "publicly slapped."<br /> <br /> In California we are hearing similar stories, but now the intimidation tactics are being endorsed by one of the nation's largest unions -- the AFL-CIO.<br /> <br /> Homosexual advocates, with the powerful backing of national union leaders, are calling for a boycott of Bolthouse Farms, a California company that provides organic juices, lemonades, and smoothies to places like Whole Foods and<br /> other organic markets, simply because one of the minority owners donated money to the petition drive to put a marriage amendment on the ballot.<br /> This is another harbinger of how homosexual activists want Christians who opposeh omosexual "marriage" to be treated -- shut out of the public square with no recourse.<br /> <br /> Please contact the national AFL-CIO to let it know such tactics are intolerable. As people of religious faith and moral conviction who believe that marriage is between one man and one woman -- we will not be silenced.<br /> <br /> Contact the AFL-CIO today and show them that suppressing free speech is not what they bargained for!<br /> <a href="http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?=AL08G01&f=AL08G01#FORM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" t="htmlx"><font color="#164c97">http://www.frc.org/get.cfm...</font></a> <br /> <br /> Please take a minute now to forward this Alert to your family, friends, church groups and others. This year presents so many key opportunities, and we need to grow the FRC team to take advantage of these opportunities.</p> <p>Maggie, you're <i>still</i> an idiot.  Sorry, I forgot to add that last night.  But it was late..or early, depending your your point of view.</p> <p>(Jason, my apologies, I know that was a no-no, I just couldn't restrain myself any longer. )    <{:-)</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267697 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267697 <p>Maggie, you're <i>still</i> an idiot.  Sorry, I forgot to add that last night.  But it was late..or early, depending your your point of view.</p> <p>(Jason, my apologies, I know that was a no-no, I just couldn't restrain myself any longer. )    <{:-)</p> <p>You can also contact the AFL-CIO to donate money or time for the cause....<a title="http://www.frc.org/get.cfm..." href="http://www.frc.org/get.cfm..." target="_blank">http://www.frc.org/get.cfm....</a></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267698 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267698 <p>You can also contact the AFL-CIO to donate money or time for the cause....<a title="http://www.frc.org/get.cfm..." href="http://www.frc.org/get.cfm..." target="_blank">http://www.frc.org/get.cfm....</a></p> <p>Hotandfoggy said, &quot;going down in SF&quot;.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267701 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267701 <p>Hotandfoggy said, &quot;going down in SF&quot;.</p> <p>Great. A double whammy. Trample on gay rights and stifle those pesky unions.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267767 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267767 <p>Great. A double whammy. Trample on gay rights and stifle those pesky unions.</p> <p>Ain`t the USA grand ? So&nbsp;much to do all the time....&nbsp;Idle hands are the devil`s work...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267771 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267771 <p>Ain`t the USA grand ? So&nbsp;much to do all the time....&nbsp;Idle hands are the devil`s work...</p> <p>At least we have seen the limits to the bigots' funding and manpower, at least in California.&nbsp;They had to abandon their paranoid anti-SB777 crusade in order to press forward on this.&nbsp; Ten years ago, they could have funded and mobilized enough foot soldiers for&nbsp;both crusades quite effortlessly.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267775 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267775 <p>At least we have seen the limits to the bigots' funding and manpower, at least in California.&nbsp;They had to abandon their paranoid anti-SB777 crusade in order to press forward on this.&nbsp; Ten years ago, they could have funded and mobilized enough foot soldiers for&nbsp;both crusades quite effortlessly.</p> <p>Times they are a changin,,, ...was &quot; manpower&quot; the politically correct word to &quot;insert&quot; there ?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267782 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267782 <p>Times they are a changin,,, ...was &quot; manpower&quot; the politically correct word to &quot;insert&quot; there ?</p> <p>I intentionally used &quot;manpower&quot; for its retro effect.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267806 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_267806 <p>I intentionally used &quot;manpower&quot; for its retro effect.</p> <p><strong>&nbsp;KernRiverGal, I 100% Agree with u..... You ROCK! I think everything u said is true because the way i see it u haven't offended anyone and u r not getting in people's way of gay marriage so i just wanted to let u know that I'm on your side and don't let anyone else make u change your mind....</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_403622 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/politicsanyone/27751/#c_403622 <p><strong>&nbsp;KernRiverGal, I 100% Agree with u..... You ROCK! I think everything u said is true because the way i see it u haven't offended anyone and u r not getting in people's way of gay marriage so i just wanted to let u know that I'm on your side and don't let anyone else make u change your mind....</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>