http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448 The Padre Hotel in downtown Bakersfield is up for sale again for $5.6 million.&nbsp; Pacifica Enterprises LLC purchased the historic landmark building for $1 million five years ago, but the company's plan to add condos to the building never materialized and construction stopped halfway through a renovation project that Pacifica claims it sunk more than $4 million into.&nbsp; There have been issues over asbestos removal and trash left in a parking lot outside the building.&nbsp; Now the building may get a fresh start as condos, apartments, a hotel (again) or offices. What do you think?&nbsp; Do you think the Padre is a shining example of what Bakersfield's downtown can become or a blight on the city's skyline?&nbsp; How much would a revitalized Padre help plans to reenergize downtown?&nbsp; Do you think downtown is on its way back or will it take another earthquake to shake up the town's downtown? The Padre Hotel in downtown Bakersfield is up for sale again for $5.6 million.&nbsp; Pacifica Enterprises LLC purchased the historic landmark building for $1 million five years ago, but the company's plan to add condos to the building never materialized and construction stopped halfway through a renovation project that Pacifica claims it sunk more than $4 million into.&nbsp; There have been issues over asbestos removal and trash left in a parking lot outside the building.&nbsp; Now the building may get a fresh start as condos, apartments, a hotel (again) or offices. What do you think?&nbsp; Do you think the Padre is a shining example of what Bakersfield's downtown can become or a blight on the city's skyline?&nbsp; How much would a revitalized Padre help plans to reenergize downtown?&nbsp; Do you think downtown is on its way back or will it take another earthquake to shake up the town's downtown? en-us Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:28:53 PDT <p>Recalling&nbsp;the glory days of the Padre Hotel&nbsp;and life was good I mourn what has happened to it over the years. My suggestion is that it be turned into a world-class brothel that would put my hometown on the map and generate much needed revenue for the city.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102112 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102112 <p>Recalling&nbsp;the glory days of the Padre Hotel&nbsp;and life was good I mourn what has happened to it over the years. My suggestion is that it be turned into a world-class brothel that would put my hometown on the map and generate much needed revenue for the city.</p> What proof do we have that Pacifica actually spent $4 million on renovations? Seeing as how they skimped on things like qualified workers and asbestos suits, what makes you think they did anything more than slap a fresh coat of paint on the thing?<br /> <br /> I'm still waiting for someone to come along with a viable plan for it. Selling &quot;chunks&quot; (blocks of square footage that can be used for each unit) off of each floor could help finance each successive floor's improvements. We need to find someone in town with the vision and the resources to do it.<br /> <br /> Preferably someone who isn't defaulting on multiple loans, or under FBI investigation..... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102120 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102120 What proof do we have that Pacifica actually spent $4 million on renovations? Seeing as how they skimped on things like qualified workers and asbestos suits, what makes you think they did anything more than slap a fresh coat of paint on the thing?<br /> <br /> I'm still waiting for someone to come along with a viable plan for it. Selling &quot;chunks&quot; (blocks of square footage that can be used for each unit) off of each floor could help finance each successive floor's improvements. We need to find someone in town with the vision and the resources to do it.<br /> <br /> Preferably someone who isn't defaulting on multiple loans, or under FBI investigation..... I guess we get to see how valuable all those vacant buildings are in the old downtown. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102132 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102132 I guess we get to see how valuable all those vacant buildings are in the old downtown. It used to be an eyesore, but it looks better now that they at least painted the outside.&nbsp; Count me excited to see what will happen to the Padre. It can't be any worse than it already has been! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102149 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102149 It used to be an eyesore, but it looks better now that they at least painted the outside.&nbsp; Count me excited to see what will happen to the Padre. It can't be any worse than it already has been! If I was young and single I'd love a condo there.&nbsp; I'd be the starving artist with the gallery downstairs. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102154 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102154 If I was young and single I'd love a condo there.&nbsp; I'd be the starving artist with the gallery downstairs. The problem with the building is the lack of parking. If you work/live/stay in the building, where do you park? I don't think the City's parking structure is a viable option. You'd need to have a tram running between the two.... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102179 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102179 The problem with the building is the lack of parking. If you work/live/stay in the building, where do you park? I don't think the City's parking structure is a viable option. You'd need to have a tram running between the two.... They're a block away from each other... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102182 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102182 They're a block away from each other... Pacifica = criminals. They've been pulling stunts like this all over the place. I hope they lose their ars on it....even if it means Sam has to drive an hour to get ......an adjustment. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102183 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102183 Pacifica = criminals. They've been pulling stunts like this all over the place. I hope they lose their ars on it....even if it means Sam has to drive an hour to get ......an adjustment. I'd buy a quarter-floor for a quarter-million dollars. Anyone else interested? If I can get 27 more people willing to pay that, and a commercial tenant or two willing to buy the ground-floor (fingers crossed for another bar), we can buy it and renovate it to our specifications.<br /> <br /> Who's with me?<br /> <br /> (PS SoCalMuscle, the parking structure was what Pacifica proposed to use for parking of tenants, so the City has already given that their blessing.) http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102196 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102196 I'd buy a quarter-floor for a quarter-million dollars. Anyone else interested? If I can get 27 more people willing to pay that, and a commercial tenant or two willing to buy the ground-floor (fingers crossed for another bar), we can buy it and renovate it to our specifications.<br /> <br /> Who's with me?<br /> <br /> (PS SoCalMuscle, the parking structure was what Pacifica proposed to use for parking of tenants, so the City has already given that their blessing.) I saw it on my way to pick up Bakotopia.&nbsp; Gotta stand up for freedom and support the besieged, you know. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102200 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102200 I saw it on my way to pick up Bakotopia.&nbsp; Gotta stand up for freedom and support the besieged, you know. I'm in if you declare one of the floors clothing-optional. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102201 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102201 I'm in if you declare one of the floors clothing-optional. Hardliner, where'd you find your copy?&nbsp; I'm looking... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102203 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102203 Hardliner, where'd you find your copy?&nbsp; I'm looking... <p>1522 18th Street.&nbsp; Just east of Eye Street.</p> <p>They had quite a bunch.&nbsp; Don't know if they still do.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102204 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102204 <p>1522 18th Street.&nbsp; Just east of Eye Street.</p> <p>They had quite a bunch.&nbsp; Don't know if they still do.</p> It would be up to the other three people on your floor to &quot;declare&quot; that (what, will you have a doorman at the elevator doors to fold and stack people's clothes as they got off the elevator?) <strong>Random</strong>. How about the roof? That may be a great &quot;clothing optional&quot; space for the tenants.....<br /> <br /> Since it's my idea, I'm &quot;calling&quot; (a quarter of) the top floor for <u>my</u> space. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102210 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102210 It would be up to the other three people on your floor to &quot;declare&quot; that (what, will you have a doorman at the elevator doors to fold and stack people's clothes as they got off the elevator?) <strong>Random</strong>. How about the roof? That may be a great &quot;clothing optional&quot; space for the tenants.....<br /> <br /> Since it's my idea, I'm &quot;calling&quot; (a quarter of) the top floor for <u>my</u> space. <p>Well, I was *THINKING* about the top floor, with access to the roof.&nbsp; Anyone who climbs up that many stairs or punches the button is deemed forewarned.&nbsp; </p> <p>.</p> <p>I said *OPTIONAL*, we don't need on stinkin' doorman.&nbsp; People with clothes fetishes can still visit...</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102212 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102212 <p>Well, I was *THINKING* about the top floor, with access to the roof.&nbsp; Anyone who climbs up that many stairs or punches the button is deemed forewarned.&nbsp; </p> <p>.</p> <p>I said *OPTIONAL*, we don't need on stinkin' doorman.&nbsp; People with clothes fetishes can still visit...</p> BTW, that rack location is the Mercado Nuevo offices (publisher of Bakotopia, the Voices, and Mas)--so if the rack's empty, you can always go upstairs and ask.&nbsp; Also, I'm sure head Bakotopian <a href="mailto:mmunoz@bakersfield.com">Matt Munoz</a> would appreciate knowing where they're out of magazines. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102213 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102213 BTW, that rack location is the Mercado Nuevo offices (publisher of Bakotopia, the Voices, and Mas)--so if the rack's empty, you can always go upstairs and ask.&nbsp; Also, I'm sure head Bakotopian <a href="mailto:mmunoz@bakersfield.com">Matt Munoz</a> would appreciate knowing where they're out of magazines. Dagny's and Kern County Northeast Library were the two I tried to no avail.&nbsp; The rack at Northeast was full--of last month's issue. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102216 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102216 Dagny's and Kern County Northeast Library were the two I tried to no avail.&nbsp; The rack at Northeast was full--of last month's issue. Hey, Mattloch, let's get something settled up front.&nbsp; We're putting the rocket back on the roof, right? http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102226 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102226 Hey, Mattloch, let's get something settled up front.&nbsp; We're putting the rocket back on the roof, right? <strong>Random</strong>, you didn't even need to ask. Of <em>course</em> the rocket is going back up. I was thinking of adding night lighting, and maybe even steam venting effects to go off every hour or so....<br /> <br /> A small wading pool and perhaps some beach sand will also be placed in one corner of the roof. A drinks bar will be located nearby, as will a few patio tables and chairs, with those classy umbrellas that have the little lights on them.<br /> <br /> Another corner will have grass, or at least the high-end astroturf, with putting greens set up.<br /> <br /> I'll have to check with Tandy, but I think a skeet launcher might be acceptable for another corner, assuming we aim it in the right direction.<br /> <br /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102234 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102234 <strong>Random</strong>, you didn't even need to ask. Of <em>course</em> the rocket is going back up. I was thinking of adding night lighting, and maybe even steam venting effects to go off every hour or so....<br /> <br /> A small wading pool and perhaps some beach sand will also be placed in one corner of the roof. A drinks bar will be located nearby, as will a few patio tables and chairs, with those classy umbrellas that have the little lights on them.<br /> <br /> Another corner will have grass, or at least the high-end astroturf, with putting greens set up.<br /> <br /> I'll have to check with Tandy, but I think a skeet launcher might be acceptable for another corner, assuming we aim it in the right direction.<br /> <br /> hey Matt, at least you won't have to worry about the cats using the beach sand for a litter box....: ) http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102236 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102236 hey Matt, at least you won't have to worry about the cats using the beach sand for a litter box....: ) And can't we find at least a small part of the building for Sam's dream, even if he can't buy-in?  It'd make an old man (and presumably many younger ones) happy... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102239 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102239 And can't we find at least a small part of the building for Sam's dream, even if he can't buy-in?  It'd make an old man (and presumably many younger ones) happy... Hey, if someone wants to convert their 1/4 floor (or more, if they buy multiple &quot;blocks&quot;) into that, they're welcome to it. Sam can do it himself if he wants.....<br /> <br /> <strong>Roselady</strong>, if I do find cats using the roof for their litter box, they're going to get a free ride in the skeet launcher...... http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102243 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102243 Hey, if someone wants to convert their 1/4 floor (or more, if they buy multiple &quot;blocks&quot;) into that, they're welcome to it. Sam can do it himself if he wants.....<br /> <br /> <strong>Roselady</strong>, if I do find cats using the roof for their litter box, they're going to get a free ride in the skeet launcher...... Is the gay bar still on the bottom floor? That place was a hoot! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102249 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102249 Is the gay bar still on the bottom floor? That place was a hoot! Matt, my cats are pretty smart&nbsp; (at least for cats).....but I have yet to see one jump and reach an elevator button....so they would be safe...hehehe http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102250 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102250 Matt, my cats are pretty smart&nbsp; (at least for cats).....but I have yet to see one jump and reach an elevator button....so they would be safe...hehehe I'm curious what the asbestos problems were.&nbsp; I can't imagine they wouldn't have just encapsulated it unless is was in the plumbing and they tried to remove the asbestos without removing the plumbing. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102266 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102266 I'm curious what the asbestos problems were.&nbsp; I can't imagine they wouldn't have just encapsulated it unless is was in the plumbing and they tried to remove the asbestos without removing the plumbing. <p><font color="#ff0000">I'm curoius what the asbestos problems were</font></p> <p>Tom, the abestos was in the walls and&nbsp;had to be removed. The real problem was that Pacifica hired unskilled workers in the middle of the removal process&nbsp;to cut costs. The workers were given little protection. Then to add insult to injury, Pacifica had the abestos illegally dumped in the Bena landfill.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102293 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102293 <p><font color="#ff0000">I'm curoius what the asbestos problems were</font></p> <p>Tom, the abestos was in the walls and&nbsp;had to be removed. The real problem was that Pacifica hired unskilled workers in the middle of the removal process&nbsp;to cut costs. The workers were given little protection. Then to add insult to injury, Pacifica had the abestos illegally dumped in the Bena landfill.</p> Bring back the "Town Casino" with Dena playing the piano and the strange guy in army fatigues following up on the violin.   My friends and I used to "own" the table in the corner near the outside door.   I remember clearly a certain person's 21st birthday.  We had a blast. The kicker was that he had been drinking at the Padre for at least two years at that point.<br /> <br /> I once tried to break a hundred dollar bill at the bar.  Sparticus himself came down to check it out.  We went outside, and he stared at it for about 5 minutes before he counted me out 5 twenties from a roll that would choke an elephant.<br /> <br /> Memories. Memories.<br /> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102297 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102297 Bring back the "Town Casino" with Dena playing the piano and the strange guy in army fatigues following up on the violin.   My friends and I used to "own" the table in the corner near the outside door.   I remember clearly a certain person's 21st birthday.  We had a blast. The kicker was that he had been drinking at the Padre for at least two years at that point.<br /> <br /> I once tried to break a hundred dollar bill at the bar.  Sparticus himself came down to check it out.  We went outside, and he stared at it for about 5 minutes before he counted me out 5 twenties from a roll that would choke an elephant.<br /> <br /> Memories. Memories.<br /> <font size="2">The bar is history,tore the whole thing down, it was the only place in town were gays,the weird,old hippies,rockabilly's,punks and rest of Bakersfield could gather,mingle and get a reasonable priced beverage with some alcohol in it,the marble flooring in the bathroom is gone too,~lord knows what happened to the fresco in the entrance,apparently the asbestos was in the walls behind the paneling,I had a friend who worked there some,and we junked (recycled a lot of the stuff that came out of there,It is a shame ~I am sure the hexagon marble tiles from the bathroom are replaced with a lovely vinyl~not! The condos would make you starve because of the rent,there was some talk of a sky bridge from the parking tower to the Padre,which would have been way cool...My dad went there one day,when&nbsp;I was about 3, left me with a waitress in the cafe&quot;Give her all the cokes she wants&quot;, disappeared for a while telling me this &quot;was our secret&quot; not to tell Mom.The coke must have given it away~I just remember the fight. about him &quot;going to that place&quot;..so Sam's idea is well rooted in history,the girl in the glass bathtub~there was a phone # you could call to hear her talk,,the shady past of the place,the political nature of the place should be celebrated.Watch out for the roof area~the suicide part of the Padre does not need celebrating...wow the pain pills are kicking in~wheeee!! so I hope this makes sense,to me it is a lucid but of brilliance but spell check did correct 20 words....</font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102299 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102299 <font size="2">The bar is history,tore the whole thing down, it was the only place in town were gays,the weird,old hippies,rockabilly's,punks and rest of Bakersfield could gather,mingle and get a reasonable priced beverage with some alcohol in it,the marble flooring in the bathroom is gone too,~lord knows what happened to the fresco in the entrance,apparently the asbestos was in the walls behind the paneling,I had a friend who worked there some,and we junked (recycled a lot of the stuff that came out of there,It is a shame ~I am sure the hexagon marble tiles from the bathroom are replaced with a lovely vinyl~not! The condos would make you starve because of the rent,there was some talk of a sky bridge from the parking tower to the Padre,which would have been way cool...My dad went there one day,when&nbsp;I was about 3, left me with a waitress in the cafe&quot;Give her all the cokes she wants&quot;, disappeared for a while telling me this &quot;was our secret&quot; not to tell Mom.The coke must have given it away~I just remember the fight. about him &quot;going to that place&quot;..so Sam's idea is well rooted in history,the girl in the glass bathtub~there was a phone # you could call to hear her talk,,the shady past of the place,the political nature of the place should be celebrated.Watch out for the roof area~the suicide part of the Padre does not need celebrating...wow the pain pills are kicking in~wheeee!! so I hope this makes sense,to me it is a lucid but of brilliance but spell check did correct 20 words....</font> So <strong>sage</strong>, <strong>anon</strong>, you two each in for a quarter-floor? http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102311 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102311 So <strong>sage</strong>, <strong>anon</strong>, you two each in for a quarter-floor? <font size="2">Can I do a barter (work)for a share,otherwise thast a lot of recyling!</font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102312 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102312 <font size="2">Can I do a barter (work)for a share,otherwise thast a lot of recyling!</font> Guys, I know they CAN use the parking structure, but the inconvenience would deter anyone from working/living/staying there. Maybe a hotel use would be feasible, but if you think someone would buy a condo and/or lease an office and have to walk a block to/from every time they wanted to get to their vehicle, you are nuts.<br /> <br /> Also, GrpThink, there is still supposedly $200k to $300k worth of asbestos still in the thing. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102315 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102315 Guys, I know they CAN use the parking structure, but the inconvenience would deter anyone from working/living/staying there. Maybe a hotel use would be feasible, but if you think someone would buy a condo and/or lease an office and have to walk a block to/from every time they wanted to get to their vehicle, you are nuts.<br /> <br /> Also, GrpThink, there is still supposedly $200k to $300k worth of asbestos still in the thing. Great!&nbsp; Let's sell the asbestos and use it to pay Sage's share! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102320 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102320 Great!&nbsp; Let's sell the asbestos and use it to pay Sage's share! Mattloch, if you'll open a rooftop bar, complete with the palm trees, beach sand, etc., I'll be your first customer! (And of course, the rocket and the steam!) http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102340 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102340 Mattloch, if you'll open a rooftop bar, complete with the palm trees, beach sand, etc., I'll be your first customer! (And of course, the rocket and the steam!) What's so bad about walking ACROSS THE STREET to get to your car.&nbsp; I'd say that's pretty convenient.&nbsp; I doubt people living in New York or L.A. would complain much about that short jaunt to their cars.&nbsp; Even condos with attached parking lots or parking structures are often so expansive that it would take nearly as long to get to your car, plus you don't have to worry about on street parking.&nbsp; The whole great thing about living downtown is you can WALK to many places and don't need a car that much. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102345 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102345 What's so bad about walking ACROSS THE STREET to get to your car.&nbsp; I'd say that's pretty convenient.&nbsp; I doubt people living in New York or L.A. would complain much about that short jaunt to their cars.&nbsp; Even condos with attached parking lots or parking structures are often so expansive that it would take nearly as long to get to your car, plus you don't have to worry about on street parking.&nbsp; The whole great thing about living downtown is you can WALK to many places and don't need a car that much. <p>Matloch, I'll be a silent partner if I'm allowed a strip club. We can even call it &quot;Rocket and Steam&quot; in honor of its glorious past and to appease potential customers.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102348 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102348 <p>Matloch, I'll be a silent partner if I'm allowed a strip club. We can even call it &quot;Rocket and Steam&quot; in honor of its glorious past and to appease potential customers.</p> <p>How far to the Downtown School, jfrancis?&nbsp; That could be a deal-killer.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Annie, factor in 110 degrees in the summer and ask the question again.&nbsp; </p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102354 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102354 <p>How far to the Downtown School, jfrancis?&nbsp; That could be a deal-killer.</p> <p>.</p> <p>Annie, factor in 110 degrees in the summer and ask the question again.&nbsp; </p> <p>Yeah that and the fact it's downtown.</p> <p>Rats...Another good idea foiled. Daycare center?</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102355 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102355 <p>Yeah that and the fact it's downtown.</p> <p>Rats...Another good idea foiled. Daycare center?</p> Combination daycare center *AND* strip club.&nbsp; *NOW* you're talking. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102357 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102357 Combination daycare center *AND* strip club.&nbsp; *NOW* you're talking. Rocket and Steam Child and Adult Services? What a novel idea! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102359 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102359 Rocket and Steam Child and Adult Services? What a novel idea! The top three stories would be a pimp place for offices for Irma Carson and Michael Rubio, after they place bars on all the rooms and make it a reception center for these duo's stout politicians annual gang round up. Arnold could come back home for the opening.<br /> Nah it would be over crowded in a few years http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102362 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102362 The top three stories would be a pimp place for offices for Irma Carson and Michael Rubio, after they place bars on all the rooms and make it a reception center for these duo's stout politicians annual gang round up. Arnold could come back home for the opening.<br /> Nah it would be over crowded in a few years <div>1) Strip clubs are only allowed in industrial areas.<br /> <br /> 2) They also need a minimum distance between it and residences, schools, churches, and other &quot;sensitive&quot; uses.<br /> <br /> 3) The Padre is not industrial, <u>and</u> would have residences <em>inside</em> it, kinda killing that option.<br /> <br /> I don't know about &quot;private&quot; clubs, though.....</div> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102377 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102377 <div>1) Strip clubs are only allowed in industrial areas.<br /> <br /> 2) They also need a minimum distance between it and residences, schools, churches, and other &quot;sensitive&quot; uses.<br /> <br /> 3) The Padre is not industrial, <u>and</u> would have residences <em>inside</em> it, kinda killing that option.<br /> <br /> I don't know about &quot;private&quot; clubs, though.....</div> How about a hip hop club on&nbsp;one of the floors? Those places&nbsp;rarely cause any problems, and would bring people downtown at night. Maybe Joey Porter could be the absentee owner. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102383 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102383 How about a hip hop club on&nbsp;one of the floors? Those places&nbsp;rarely cause any problems, and would bring people downtown at night. Maybe Joey Porter could be the absentee owner. So let's put a steel smelting facility on the ground floor.&nbsp; http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102384 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102384 So let's put a steel smelting facility on the ground floor.&nbsp; Aw hell, I would just love for the bar to open up again. I went there a few times before it closed. It definitely had character. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102385 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102385 Aw hell, I would just love for the bar to open up again. I went there a few times before it closed. It definitely had character. Is there room enough for a new refinery, so the Rosedale folks won't be bothered anymore? http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102400 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102400 Is there room enough for a new refinery, so the Rosedale folks won't be bothered anymore? And the waste gas can run the hot-water heater.&nbsp; *NOW* we're getting somewhere. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102402 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102402 And the waste gas can run the hot-water heater.&nbsp; *NOW* we're getting somewhere. <font size="2">Funny! go pass out for a few hours and all the fun breaks lose!..Still a rooftop bar,with those portable H2O coolers,would be doable~and I would think a lot of us would stand shoulder to shoulder with Sam and the bordello.2&nbsp;nd floor, the whole deal a recreation of the bar,'cause if there is a hip hop bar it needs street :acess for quick getaways!</font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102444 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102444 <font size="2">Funny! go pass out for a few hours and all the fun breaks lose!..Still a rooftop bar,with those portable H2O coolers,would be doable~and I would think a lot of us would stand shoulder to shoulder with Sam and the bordello.2&nbsp;nd floor, the whole deal a recreation of the bar,'cause if there is a hip hop bar it needs street :acess for quick getaways!</font> <p>If another bar opens up it definitely should cater to the grown folks. There's enough bars downtown that already cater to the smurfs.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102461 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102461 <p>If another bar opens up it definitely should cater to the grown folks. There's enough bars downtown that already cater to the smurfs.</p> I hear 50 Cent is selling his place that he bought from Tyson to purchase the Padre. <br /> <br /> I also also have almost 100% verified David Crisp will be trying to buy this thing. Maybe the Global boys will make a run at it too... <br /> <br /> Personally, I think all 3 should try to JV it. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102547 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102547 I hear 50 Cent is selling his place that he bought from Tyson to purchase the Padre. <br /> <br /> I also also have almost 100% verified David Crisp will be trying to buy this thing. Maybe the Global boys will make a run at it too... <br /> <br /> Personally, I think all 3 should try to JV it. Amen to that jfrancais!!! http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102610 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102610 Amen to that jfrancais!!! So let me understand this: they went in and gutted everything that made the building architecturally significant and are now asking 5 times what they paid for it?&nbsp; &lt;golf clap&gt; That's a special kind of stupid. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102622 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_102622 So let me understand this: they went in and gutted everything that made the building architecturally significant and are now asking 5 times what they paid for it?&nbsp; &lt;golf clap&gt; That's a special kind of stupid. <p>If Pacifica Enterprises Inc dropped the project after their unrealistic vision became a dissappointing reality, what makes anyone think it is worth the trouble (whether or not they actually spent the money doesn't matter).&nbsp; I don't think condos in downtown Bakersfield are a good Idea.&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_103945 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_103945 <p>If Pacifica Enterprises Inc dropped the project after their unrealistic vision became a dissappointing reality, what makes anyone think it is worth the trouble (whether or not they actually spent the money doesn't matter).&nbsp; I don't think condos in downtown Bakersfield are a good Idea.&nbsp;</p> I think it may have more to do with Pacifica's financial situation than any economic potential here in Bako, <strong>Chuck</strong>. Being a San Diego company, I wouldn't doubt a certain about of desperation on their part, and if a buyer isn't found soon I would expect the asking price to drop fairly quickly.<br /> <br /> <strong>Tom</strong>, there were sprinkler systems to install, and those don't come cheap. There were also lots of fines to pay from the illegal asbestos dumping, too. That was a <u>truly</u> epic kind of stupid. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_103954 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_103954 I think it may have more to do with Pacifica's financial situation than any economic potential here in Bako, <strong>Chuck</strong>. Being a San Diego company, I wouldn't doubt a certain about of desperation on their part, and if a buyer isn't found soon I would expect the asking price to drop fairly quickly.<br /> <br /> <strong>Tom</strong>, there were sprinkler systems to install, and those don't come cheap. There were also lots of fines to pay from the illegal asbestos dumping, too. That was a <u>truly</u> epic kind of stupid. <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="4">Who or how do you contact someone about more information on the Padre?</font></font> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_118463 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_118463 <font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="4">Who or how do you contact someone about more information on the Padre?</font></font> <p>How cool would it be if someone bought the Padre and turned it into a cool hotel, brought back the bar, etc... that's what the place needs... not condos!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_139802 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_139802 <p>How cool would it be if someone bought the Padre and turned it into a cool hotel, brought back the bar, etc... that's what the place needs... not condos!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <h3 class="headline"><font size="2">Maybe you could put NOR's proposed water park on the roof.  According to local residents regarding the west Rosedale site: </font></h3> <h3 class="headline"><em><font size="2">“It’s going to bring who knows who from where knows where,” said Becky Kaiser. </font></em></h3> <p><em><font size="2">Art Lewis, who lives north of the site, said he backs a water park in Bakersfield, but “just in a different location.” He suggested a water park by Highway 99 would make better sense.</font></em></p> <p><em><font size="2">“It’s location we are talking about,” Lewis said. </font></em></p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_139815 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_139815 <h3 class="headline"><font size="2">Maybe you could put NOR's proposed water park on the roof.  According to local residents regarding the west Rosedale site: </font></h3> <h3 class="headline"><em><font size="2">“It’s going to bring who knows who from where knows where,” said Becky Kaiser. </font></em></h3> <p><em><font size="2">Art Lewis, who lives north of the site, said he backs a water park in Bakersfield, but “just in a different location.” He suggested a water park by Highway 99 would make better sense.</font></em></p> <p><em><font size="2">“It’s location we are talking about,” Lewis said. </font></em></p> Here I go nit picking again but Rosedale isn't NOR.&nbsp; It's WOR. http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_139817 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_139817 Here I go nit picking again but Rosedale isn't NOR.&nbsp; It's WOR. <p>Yeah, I think NOR's name&nbsp;is a bit of misnomer, but parts of the NW are county, not city.&nbsp; Without NOR,&nbsp;the north and northwest wouldn't have parks, youth sports, public swimming pools, senior functions and other recreational activities.&nbsp; In my opinion, they do a better job than the city and I'm glad that they are around.</p> http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_140074 http://people.bakersfield.com/home/Blog/schuster80/10448/#c_140074 <p>Yeah, I think NOR's name&nbsp;is a bit of misnomer, but parts of the NW are county, not city.&nbsp; Without NOR,&nbsp;the north and northwest wouldn't have parks, youth sports, public swimming pools, senior functions and other recreational activities.&nbsp; In my opinion, they do a better job than the city and I'm glad that they are around.</p>